• School lunches - another ACT Disaster

    From Rich80105@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 1 16:33:54 2025
    From facebook:

    I just heard Bruce Barnes, the principal of Massey Primary School,
    talking to Lisa Owen on RNZ. The meals were delivered late; halal
    meals had ham in them; there is no indication on the packaging what
    kind of meat is in the meals, so nobody knows what kind of meat is in
    e.g., bolognese sauce or any other dish; little kids can't open the
    containers as too tightly sealed; the same sized portions are provided
    for the smallest kids and those who are older and bigger. And most
    kids wouldn't eat the meals once they were delivered, as they were too unpalatable, which means huge waste and there is no bin provided for
    the waste and no waste collection, and the school can't cope with
    disposing of the waste. Oh, and no fresh fruit or veg. I can't say I'm surprised, but I am disgusted.

    And also relevant: https://www.healthcoalition.org.nz/lunches-contract-goes-to-companies-with-poor-track-record-on-food-quality-and-service/

    So Seymour chose the lowest cost provider regardless of reputation, an
    in the process bankrupted 75 local companies and made 2000 people
    redundant to line corporate pockets. . . .

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 1 06:11:40 2025
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    From facebook:

    I just heard Bruce Barnes, the principal of Massey Primary School,
    talking to Lisa Owen on RNZ. The meals were delivered late; halal
    meals had ham in them; there is no indication on the packaging what
    kind of meat is in the meals, so nobody knows what kind of meat is in
    e.g., bolognese sauce or any other dish; little kids can't open the >containers as too tightly sealed; the same sized portions are provided
    for the smallest kids and those who are older and bigger. And most
    kids wouldn't eat the meals once they were delivered, as they were too >unpalatable, which means huge waste and there is no bin provided for
    the waste and no waste collection, and the school can't cope with
    disposing of the waste. Oh, and no fresh fruit or veg. I can't say I'm >surprised, but I am disgusted.

    And also relevant: >https://www.healthcoalition.org.nz/lunches-contract-goes-to-companies-with-poor-track-record-on-food-quality-and-service/

    So Seymour chose the lowest cost provider regardless of reputation, an
    in the process bankrupted 75 local companies and made 2000 people
    redundant to line corporate pockets. . . .
    School is just starting, the scheme is new. A reasonable person would give it a few days before going into orgasmic print.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Sat Feb 1 19:43:44 2025
    On Sat, 1 Feb 2025 06:11:40 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    From facebook:

    I just heard Bruce Barnes, the principal of Massey Primary School,
    talking to Lisa Owen on RNZ. The meals were delivered late; halal
    meals had ham in them; there is no indication on the packaging what
    kind of meat is in the meals, so nobody knows what kind of meat is in
    e.g., bolognese sauce or any other dish; little kids can't open the >>containers as too tightly sealed; the same sized portions are provided
    for the smallest kids and those who are older and bigger. And most
    kids wouldn't eat the meals once they were delivered, as they were too >>unpalatable, which means huge waste and there is no bin provided for
    the waste and no waste collection, and the school can't cope with
    disposing of the waste. Oh, and no fresh fruit or veg. I can't say I'm >>surprised, but I am disgusted.

    And also relevant: >>https://www.healthcoalition.org.nz/lunches-contract-goes-to-companies-with-poor-track-record-on-food-quality-and-service/

    So Seymour chose the lowest cost provider regardless of reputation, an
    in the process bankrupted 75 local companies and made 2000 people
    redundant to line corporate pockets. . . .
    School is just starting, the scheme is new. A reasonable person would give it a
    few days before going into orgasmic print.

    A reasonable person would not have given the contract to an
    incompetent company, and would have trialled service before it was
    expanded as far as it has now gone.

    from the article:
    "British-based multinational Compass Group, the lead supplier for the
    new model, lost one third of their school contracts in the current
    programme due to poor quality in food and service.

    Compass has been severely criticised in the past of its catering
    supply to many New Zealand hospitals.

    Libelle lost one third of its schools due to complaints about quality
    of food and service.

    Earlier this year both suppliers underwent a performance management
    plan, overseen by the Ministry of Education.

    “Cabinet has given a $85 million contract to a group led by a company
    that just months ago was forced to do a performance management plan
    due to poor quality and service,” Dr Kelly Garton, HCA spokesperson
    says.

    Why should New Zealanders have confidence this model will deliver the
    nutrition and quality growing bodies and minds need?” Garton said.

    There is no mention of any evaluation plan for the new program or the
    expected outcomes that it will deliver. This is a serious gap for a
    government which says that it will be evidence-based."

    So, Tony, did those companies make donations to ACT, National,
    Taxpayer Union or Free Speech Union to get such favourable treatment
    from the incompetent Assistant Minister?

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 1 19:44:17 2025
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 1 Feb 2025 06:11:40 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    From facebook:

    I just heard Bruce Barnes, the principal of Massey Primary School, >>>talking to Lisa Owen on RNZ. The meals were delivered late; halal
    meals had ham in them; there is no indication on the packaging what
    kind of meat is in the meals, so nobody knows what kind of meat is in >>>e.g., bolognese sauce or any other dish; little kids can't open the >>>containers as too tightly sealed; the same sized portions are provided >>>for the smallest kids and those who are older and bigger. And most
    kids wouldn't eat the meals once they were delivered, as they were too >>>unpalatable, which means huge waste and there is no bin provided for
    the waste and no waste collection, and the school can't cope with >>>disposing of the waste. Oh, and no fresh fruit or veg. I can't say I'm >>>surprised, but I am disgusted.

    And also relevant: >>>https://www.healthcoalition.org.nz/lunches-contract-goes-to-companies-with-poor-track-record-on-food-quality-and-service/

    So Seymour chose the lowest cost provider regardless of reputation, an
    in the process bankrupted 75 local companies and made 2000 people >>>redundant to line corporate pockets. . . .
    School is just starting, the scheme is new. A reasonable person would give it >>a
    few days before going into orgasmic print.

    A reasonable person would not have given the contract to an
    incompetent company, and would have trialled service before it was
    expanded as far as it has now gone.
    You wouldn't know how to judge what is competent or otherwise. Your competence to do that is non-existent.

    from the article:
    "British-based multinational Compass Group, the lead supplier for the
    new model, lost one third of their school contracts in the current
    programme due to poor quality in food and service.

    Compass has been severely criticised in the past of its catering
    supply to many New Zealand hospitals.

    Libelle lost one third of its schools due to complaints about quality
    of food and service.

    Earlier this year both suppliers underwent a performance management
    plan, overseen by the Ministry of Education.

    “Cabinet has given a $85 million contract to a group led by a company
    that just months ago was forced to do a performance management plan
    due to poor quality and service,” Dr Kelly Garton, HCA spokesperson
    says.

    Why should New Zealanders have confidence this model will deliver the >nutrition and quality growing bodies and minds need?” Garton said.

    There is no mention of any evaluation plan for the new program or the >expected outcomes that it will deliver. This is a serious gap for a >government which says that it will be evidence-based."
    Poliical rhetoric.

    So, Tony, did those companies make donations to ACT, National,
    Taxpayer Union or Free Speech Union to get such favourable treatment
    from the incompetent Assistant Minister?
    Did you steal from your school, parents or employer?
    (As valid a question as yours).

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