• A shot across the Seymour's bow

    From Gordon@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 4 22:25:33 2025
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/540918/wellington-water-boss-admits-relying-too-much-on-contractors-requests-more-funding

    Experience is a hard but fair teacher as the saying goes.

    It is good to see that the CEO, Pat Dougherty, has thrown away the weasel
    words and admitted the old business model has failed to the some extent as
    the network itself. The workers on the ground have been saying for many
    moons that the old model was resulting in poor value for money.

    "He apologised to the council and acknowledged many of the councils across
    the region had been telling Wellington Water it relied too heavily on contractors.

    "You were right and I'm sorry it's taken so long for the message to be
    heard."

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to Gordon on Wed Feb 5 22:49:34 2025
    On 4 Feb 2025 22:25:33 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/540918/wellington-water-boss-admits-relying-too-much-on-contractors-requests-more-funding

    Experience is a hard but fair teacher as the saying goes.

    It is good to see that the CEO, Pat Dougherty, has thrown away the weasel >words and admitted the old business model has failed to the some extent as >the network itself. The workers on the ground have been saying for many
    moons that the old model was resulting in poor value for money.

    "He apologised to the council and acknowledged many of the councils across >the region had been telling Wellington Water it relied too heavily on >contractors.

    "You were right and I'm sorry it's taken so long for the message to be >heard."

    Regrettably the lesson has not been learned by everyone - Chris Bishop
    is determined to both reduce the number of state houses, but also to
    get more done through private contractors.

    You may remember the fights over public transport some years ago.
    Wellington for example at one stage ran trams - there was a single
    system for lines and power - using private companies to run them would
    have not given any advantage. But after trams were replaced by busses,
    a past National Party Transport Minister decided that contracts for
    running busses should be opened up to private operators, and went even
    further to dictate that the awarding of contracts should be solely on
    price, and that a tender could be made for all or any part of the
    system - so Wellington ended up with at least three operators, one of
    which went broke, who used different systems for keeping records,
    leading to the Council not being able to plan changes to routes as
    they were no longer able to get data on customer usage for different
    routes. It became a shambles, and then National lost an election, but
    it ended up costing the Council more than it should have, and
    customers not getting as good a service as they deserved.

    There was a similar issue with rubbish collections - the insistence on
    using small contractors means that on some roads there are three or
    four trucks picking up rubbish on a particular road, with
    corresponding loss of efficiency and added damage to roads.

    Most large companies use their own employees for core business, but
    may use contractors for short term tasks or specialist tasks where
    they cannot justify training people for short term tasks.

    So for Wellington Water, most of the job is either designing and
    specifying improvements - Engineers and Architects etc are need for
    that, and the system is big enough to employ some - but most of the
    work is either construction and pipe additions, replacements and
    repairs. Using contractors has just meant they have a bigger training
    problem, and the inevitable need to monitor contracts and negotiate
    variations etc - we go back to core business is usually best provided
    by employees with common training and experience.

    So we are getting back to the sort of balance that Councils want -
    lower overheads with better control over the bulk of operations. Sadly conservative (ie National-led) councils like to push profit to their
    mates instead of operating efficiently; and it can take time to back
    out of expensive contracts . . .

    So well done to Wellington Water!

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  • From Crash@21:1/5 to Gordon on Thu Feb 6 13:26:35 2025
    On 4 Feb 2025 22:25:33 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/540918/wellington-water-boss-admits-relying-too-much-on-contractors-requests-more-funding

    Experience is a hard but fair teacher as the saying goes.

    It is good to see that the CEO, Pat Dougherty, has thrown away the weasel >words and admitted the old business model has failed to the some extent as >the network itself. The workers on the ground have been saying for many
    moons that the old model was resulting in poor value for money.

    "He apologised to the council and acknowledged many of the councils across >the region had been telling Wellington Water it relied too heavily on >contractors.

    "You were right and I'm sorry it's taken so long for the message to be >heard."


    "Permanent Contractors"? The whole point of contractors is that they
    carry out work that is for a specific project over a specific period.
    When the project ends, so do the contract payments. Contractors never
    replace permanent full time or part time staff because the premium
    paid for said staff is too expensive.

    The only exception to this is when the staff required have specific
    rare skill sets and will only work as contractors because they can.

    Plumbing and Drainage engineers are most likely not rare and the
    issues with infrastructure maintenance should be addressed by hiring
    employees with the required expertise for the many years of work
    ahead.


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    Crash McBash

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