On reading the article above I was reminded of Trump. Now our laws are >different from those in the USA, but what is the connection. Sure bothWrong - there is no far right in this government, but there is certainly far left in the opposition.
are belligerent, more concerned about their image than the interests
of their country, neither are deep thinkers, and both want to appear
"tough" whatever the cost. The similarity that struck me however is
the total lack of compassion, or any consideration of the interests of
the country their government is supposed to be leading.
The similarity is simple - just as in many ways Trump and Penk are
simple - it is a total lack of compassion. In acting on that, Penk is
turning away an individual who is not at fault - he was born only a
few months after a law change that is now affecting him; it is ripping
a family apart, and losing New Zealand yet another citizen that does
not deserve this punishment.
So yet again the ACT1stNat coalition puts their own image ahead of
justice, kindness and doing what New Zealanders know is right.
And then having led thousands to voluntarily led thousands to leave
New Zealand to find work after having lost their jobs under this
government (where will Kinleith workers go?), Penk shows no
understanding of the Nation's interests in not having the courage to
do what is right - he is too wrapped up in his Far-Right rigidities.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360582079/kiwi-kid-who-faces-being-deported-country-hes-never-been
On reading the article above I was reminded of Trump. Now our laws are different from those in the USA, but what is the connection. Sure both
are belligerent, more concerned about their image than the interests
of their country, neither are deep thinkers, and both want to appear
"tough" whatever the cost. The similarity that struck me however is
the total lack of compassion, or any consideration of the interests of
the country their government is supposed to be leading.
The similarity is simple - just as in many ways Trump and Penk are
simple - it is a total lack of compassion. In acting on that, Penk is
turning away an individual who is not at fault - he was born only a
few months after a law change that is now affecting him; it is ripping
a family apart, and losing New Zealand yet another citizen that does
not deserve this punishment.
So yet again the ACT1stNat coalition puts their own image ahead of
justice, kindness and doing what New Zealanders know is right.
And then having led thousands to voluntarily led thousands to leave
New Zealand to find work after having lost their jobs under this
government (where will Kinleith workers go?), Penk shows no
understanding of the Nation's interests in not having the courage to
do what is right - he is too wrapped up in his Far-Right rigidities.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360582079/kiwi-kid-who-faces-being-deported-country-hes-never-been
Wrong - there is no far right in this government, but there is certainly far >left in the opposition.
On reading the article above I was reminded of Trump. Now our laws are >>different from those in the USA, but what is the connection. Sure both
are belligerent, more concerned about their image than the interests
of their country, neither are deep thinkers, and both want to appear >>"tough" whatever the cost. The similarity that struck me however is
the total lack of compassion, or any consideration of the interests of
the country their government is supposed to be leading.
The similarity is simple - just as in many ways Trump and Penk are
simple - it is a total lack of compassion. In acting on that, Penk is >>turning away an individual who is not at fault - he was born only a
few months after a law change that is now affecting him; it is ripping
a family apart, and losing New Zealand yet another citizen that does
not deserve this punishment.
So yet again the ACT1stNat coalition puts their own image ahead of
justice, kindness and doing what New Zealanders know is right.
And then having led thousands to voluntarily led thousands to leave
New Zealand to find work after having lost their jobs under this
government (where will Kinleith workers go?), Penk shows no
understanding of the Nation's interests in not having the courage to
do what is right - he is too wrapped up in his Far-Right rigidities.
Otherwise a perfectly pointless post Rich! Just desperate rhetoric.
On Fri, 14 Feb 2025 22:56:07 -0000 (UTC), TonyIrrelevant, read what I wrote and address that or not as you please but don't bother me with extraneoius nonsensical questions.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360582079/kiwi-kid-who-faces-being-deported-country-hes-never-been
Wrong - there is no far right in this government, but there is certainly far >>left in the opposition.
On reading the article above I was reminded of Trump. Now our laws are >>>different from those in the USA, but what is the connection. Sure both >>>are belligerent, more concerned about their image than the interests
of their country, neither are deep thinkers, and both want to appear >>>"tough" whatever the cost. The similarity that struck me however is
the total lack of compassion, or any consideration of the interests of >>>the country their government is supposed to be leading.
The similarity is simple - just as in many ways Trump and Penk are
simple - it is a total lack of compassion. In acting on that, Penk is >>>turning away an individual who is not at fault - he was born only a
few months after a law change that is now affecting him; it is ripping
a family apart, and losing New Zealand yet another citizen that does
not deserve this punishment.
So yet again the ACT1stNat coalition puts their own image ahead of >>>justice, kindness and doing what New Zealanders know is right.
And then having led thousands to voluntarily led thousands to leave
New Zealand to find work after having lost their jobs under this >>>government (where will Kinleith workers go?), Penk shows no
understanding of the Nation's interests in not having the courage to
do what is right - he is too wrapped up in his Far-Right rigidities.
Otherwise a perfectly pointless post Rich! Just desperate rhetoric.
So do you think Penk was right to allow the deportation to India of an
18 year old who speaks very little Punjabi, who was born 2 months
before a law change that makes him not a citizen (but leaves his older
sister a citizen), has attended primary and secondary school, and now
forces him to leave New Zealand rather than become a responsible
citizen and worker? Is deportation justifiable? How does Penk's
decision help Luxon's "Growth Strategy"?
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2025 22:56:07 -0000 (UTC), TonyIrrelevant, read what I wrote and address that or not as you please but don't >bother me with extraneoius nonsensical questions.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360582079/kiwi-kid-who-faces-being-deported-country-hes-never-been
Otherwise a perfectly pointless post Rich! Just desperate rhetoric.
On reading the article above I was reminded of Trump. Now our laws are >>>>different from those in the USA, but what is the connection. Sure both >>>>are belligerent, more concerned about their image than the interests
of their country, neither are deep thinkers, and both want to appear >>>>"tough" whatever the cost. The similarity that struck me however is
the total lack of compassion, or any consideration of the interests of >>>>the country their government is supposed to be leading.
The similarity is simple - just as in many ways Trump and Penk are >>>>simple - it is a total lack of compassion. In acting on that, Penk is >>>>turning away an individual who is not at fault - he was born only a
few months after a law change that is now affecting him; it is ripping >>>>a family apart, and losing New Zealand yet another citizen that does >>>>not deserve this punishment.
So yet again the ACT1stNat coalition puts their own image ahead of >>>>justice, kindness and doing what New Zealanders know is right.
And then having led thousands to voluntarily led thousands to leave
New Zealand to find work after having lost their jobs under this >>>>government (where will Kinleith workers go?), Penk shows no >>>>understanding of the Nation's interests in not having the courage to
do what is right - he is too wrapped up in his Far-Right rigidities. >>>Wrong - there is no far right in this government, but there is certainly far >>>left in the opposition.
So do you think Penk was right to allow the deportation to India of an
18 year old who speaks very little Punjabi, who was born 2 months
before a law change that makes him not a citizen (but leaves his older >>sister a citizen), has attended primary and secondary school, and now >>forces him to leave New Zealand rather than become a responsible
citizen and worker? Is deportation justifiable? How does Penk's
decision help Luxon's "Growth Strategy"?
On Sat, 15 Feb 2025 05:31:43 -0000 (UTC), TonyIndeed, good to see a competent and compassionate minister involved.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2025 22:56:07 -0000 (UTC), TonyIrrelevant, read what I wrote and address that or not as you please but don't >>bother me with extraneoius nonsensical questions.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360582079/kiwi-kid-who-faces-being-deported-country-hes-never-been
left in the opposition.
On reading the article above I was reminded of Trump. Now our laws are >>>>>different from those in the USA, but what is the connection. Sure both >>>>>are belligerent, more concerned about their image than the interests >>>>>of their country, neither are deep thinkers, and both want to appear >>>>>"tough" whatever the cost. The similarity that struck me however is >>>>>the total lack of compassion, or any consideration of the interests of >>>>>the country their government is supposed to be leading.
The similarity is simple - just as in many ways Trump and Penk are >>>>>simple - it is a total lack of compassion. In acting on that, Penk is >>>>>turning away an individual who is not at fault - he was born only a >>>>>few months after a law change that is now affecting him; it is ripping >>>>>a family apart, and losing New Zealand yet another citizen that does >>>>>not deserve this punishment.
So yet again the ACT1stNat coalition puts their own image ahead of >>>>>justice, kindness and doing what New Zealanders know is right.
And then having led thousands to voluntarily led thousands to leave >>>>>New Zealand to find work after having lost their jobs under this >>>>>government (where will Kinleith workers go?), Penk shows no >>>>>understanding of the Nation's interests in not having the courage to >>>>>do what is right - he is too wrapped up in his Far-Right rigidities. >>>>Wrong - there is no far right in this government, but there is certainly >>>>far
Otherwise a perfectly pointless post Rich! Just desperate rhetoric.
So do you think Penk was right to allow the deportation to India of an
18 year old who speaks very little Punjabi, who was born 2 months
before a law change that makes him not a citizen (but leaves his older >>>sister a citizen), has attended primary and secondary school, and now >>>forces him to leave New Zealand rather than become a responsible
citizen and worker? Is deportation justifiable? How does Penk's
decision help Luxon's "Growth Strategy"?
Well we can be very thankful for those that publicised this case -
well done Ricardo, but also well done to Chris Penk for eventually >understanding that he had a lot to lose and nothing to gain from
pretending to have just a little empathy, and having a look at the
case - the lesson for everyone is that self-preservation can lead even
Penk to make the right decision sometimes.
We can take it that he will be allowed to stay - to defer the
deportation and then later decide to really do it would lose even more >support for National, as well as cost a lot of money to make New
Zealand worse off . . .
On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 06:17:48 -0000 (UTC), TonyYou understand nothing, as usual.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:That may be going a little too far, but I understand that the change
On Sat, 15 Feb 2025 05:31:43 -0000 (UTC), TonyIndeed, good to see a competent and compassionate minister involved.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2025 22:56:07 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Irrelevant, read what I wrote and address that or not as you please but >>>>don't
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360582079/kiwi-kid-who-faces-being-deported-country-hes-never-been
left in the opposition.
On reading the article above I was reminded of Trump. Now our laws are >>>>>>>different from those in the USA, but what is the connection. Sure both >>>>>>>are belligerent, more concerned about their image than the interests >>>>>>>of their country, neither are deep thinkers, and both want to appear >>>>>>>"tough" whatever the cost. The similarity that struck me however is >>>>>>>the total lack of compassion, or any consideration of the interests of >>>>>>>the country their government is supposed to be leading.
The similarity is simple - just as in many ways Trump and Penk are >>>>>>>simple - it is a total lack of compassion. In acting on that, Penk is >>>>>>>turning away an individual who is not at fault - he was born only a >>>>>>>few months after a law change that is now affecting him; it is ripping >>>>>>>a family apart, and losing New Zealand yet another citizen that does >>>>>>>not deserve this punishment.
So yet again the ACT1stNat coalition puts their own image ahead of >>>>>>>justice, kindness and doing what New Zealanders know is right.
And then having led thousands to voluntarily led thousands to leave >>>>>>>New Zealand to find work after having lost their jobs under this >>>>>>>government (where will Kinleith workers go?), Penk shows no >>>>>>>understanding of the Nation's interests in not having the courage to >>>>>>>do what is right - he is too wrapped up in his Far-Right rigidities. >>>>>>Wrong - there is no far right in this government, but there is certainly >>>>>>far
Otherwise a perfectly pointless post Rich! Just desperate rhetoric.
So do you think Penk was right to allow the deportation to India of an >>>>>18 year old who speaks very little Punjabi, who was born 2 months >>>>>before a law change that makes him not a citizen (but leaves his older >>>>>sister a citizen), has attended primary and secondary school, and now >>>>>forces him to leave New Zealand rather than become a responsible >>>>>citizen and worker? Is deportation justifiable? How does Penk's >>>>>decision help Luxon's "Growth Strategy"?
bother me with extraneoius nonsensical questions.
Well we can be very thankful for those that publicised this case -
well done Ricardo, but also well done to Chris Penk for eventually >>>understanding that he had a lot to lose and nothing to gain from >>>pretending to have just a little empathy, and having a look at the
case - the lesson for everyone is that self-preservation can lead even >>>Penk to make the right decision sometimes.
We can take it that he will be allowed to stay - to defer the
deportation and then later decide to really do it would lose even more >>>support for National, as well as cost a lot of money to make New
Zealand worse off . . .
of decision may have been influenced by valid input from an
influential Union . . .
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:That may be going a little too far, but I understand that the change
On Sat, 15 Feb 2025 05:31:43 -0000 (UTC), TonyIndeed, good to see a competent and compassionate minister involved.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2025 22:56:07 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Irrelevant, read what I wrote and address that or not as you please but don't
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360582079/kiwi-kid-who-faces-being-deported-country-hes-never-been
left in the opposition.
On reading the article above I was reminded of Trump. Now our laws are >>>>>>different from those in the USA, but what is the connection. Sure both >>>>>>are belligerent, more concerned about their image than the interests >>>>>>of their country, neither are deep thinkers, and both want to appear >>>>>>"tough" whatever the cost. The similarity that struck me however is >>>>>>the total lack of compassion, or any consideration of the interests of >>>>>>the country their government is supposed to be leading.
The similarity is simple - just as in many ways Trump and Penk are >>>>>>simple - it is a total lack of compassion. In acting on that, Penk is >>>>>>turning away an individual who is not at fault - he was born only a >>>>>>few months after a law change that is now affecting him; it is ripping >>>>>>a family apart, and losing New Zealand yet another citizen that does >>>>>>not deserve this punishment.
So yet again the ACT1stNat coalition puts their own image ahead of >>>>>>justice, kindness and doing what New Zealanders know is right.
And then having led thousands to voluntarily led thousands to leave >>>>>>New Zealand to find work after having lost their jobs under this >>>>>>government (where will Kinleith workers go?), Penk shows no >>>>>>understanding of the Nation's interests in not having the courage to >>>>>>do what is right - he is too wrapped up in his Far-Right rigidities. >>>>>Wrong - there is no far right in this government, but there is certainly >>>>>far
Otherwise a perfectly pointless post Rich! Just desperate rhetoric.
So do you think Penk was right to allow the deportation to India of an >>>>18 year old who speaks very little Punjabi, who was born 2 months >>>>before a law change that makes him not a citizen (but leaves his older >>>>sister a citizen), has attended primary and secondary school, and now >>>>forces him to leave New Zealand rather than become a responsible >>>>citizen and worker? Is deportation justifiable? How does Penk's >>>>decision help Luxon's "Growth Strategy"?
bother me with extraneoius nonsensical questions.
Well we can be very thankful for those that publicised this case -
well done Ricardo, but also well done to Chris Penk for eventually >>understanding that he had a lot to lose and nothing to gain from
pretending to have just a little empathy, and having a look at the
case - the lesson for everyone is that self-preservation can lead even
Penk to make the right decision sometimes.
We can take it that he will be allowed to stay - to defer the
deportation and then later decide to really do it would lose even more >>support for National, as well as cost a lot of money to make New
Zealand worse off . . .
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