There is at least one media outlet that breaks with media norms and is
not just one persons views.
Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
https://centrist.nz/waitangi-day-a-manufactured-cycle-of-outrage/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=26-2-2025&_kx=uBMjkMr2C8pjfBkYE2tMrZxpVu7AAzZhqncqpA4naio.VYfxNgYes I think there is a really high likelihood that many people who have supported the Treaty will start to question the validity of it. That's what the
There is at least one media outlet that breaks with media norms and is
not just one persons views.
sort of aggression shown at Waitangi does. The people who trigger this behavious may well be doing their cause massive damage. If so it is of their own doing.
Centrist acts as a counterpoint to the bias shown in the MSM. No wonder people
criticise Centrist, they know it is trying to be fair and they hate that.
https://centrist.nz/waitangi-day-a-manufactured-cycle-of-outrage/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=26-2-2025&_kx=uBMjkMr2C8pjfBkYE2tMrZxpVu7AAzZhqncqpA4naio.VYfxNg
There is at least one media outlet that breaks with media norms and is
not just one persons views.
https://centrist.nz/waitangi-day-a-manufactured-cycle-of-outrage/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=26-2-2025&_kx=uBMjkMr2C8pjfBkYE2tMrZxpVu7AAzZhqncqpA4naio.VYfxNg
There is at least one media outlet that breaks with media norms and is
not just one persons views.
On Wed, 26 Feb 2025 09:48:31 +1300, greybeard <nobody@nowhere.invalid>Posts like this one of yours shows excatly why you deserve the opprobrium and valid criticism you receive.
wrote:
On 26/02/25 08:32, Tony wrote:
Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:The whole event is pure theatre. The same old foot stomping, arm
Yes I think there is a really high likelihood that many people who havehttps://centrist.nz/waitangi-day-a-manufactured-cycle-of-outrage/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=26-2-2025&_kx=uBMjkMr2C8pjfBkYE2tMrZxpVu7AAzZhqncqpA4naio.VYfxNg
There is at least one media outlet that breaks with media norms and is >>>> not just one persons views.
supported the Treaty will start to question the validity of it. That's what >>>the
sort of aggression shown at Waitangi does. The people who trigger this
behavious may well be doing their cause massive damage. If so it is of their
own doing.
Centrist acts as a counterpoint to the bias shown in the MSM. No wonder >>>people
criticise Centrist, they know it is trying to be fair and they hate that. >>
thumping, facial grimacing and angry ranting year after year to
same old formula. Non-stop, unrestrained grifting.
And that is just the Scottish Country Dancing! I agree that Seymour is
most unattractive when he goes on his angry rants . . .
On Wed, 26 Feb 2025 07:52:35 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>The post has nothing to do with the Atlas network.
wrote:
https://centrist.nz/waitangi-day-a-manufactured-cycle-of-outrage/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=26-2-2025&_kx=uBMjkMr2C8pjfBkYE2tMrZxpVu7AAzZhqncqpA4naio.VYfxNg
There is at least one media outlet that breaks with media norms and is
not just one persons views.
And there the evidence appears to be that the Atlas Network speaks
with one mind!
Certainly the aggression from David Seymour has been an unwelcomeMore sarcasm.
addition to what has previously been a celebration of heritage,
diversity, and common ground - sadly that is changing with the
imported neo-liberalism and the embrace of the interests of wealthy
political donors - which we are seeing in a loss of perceived
integrity - we can either choose to go down the Trump route or ensure
that at the next election the Atlas Network loses.
On Wed, 26 Feb 2025 07:52:35 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
https://centrist.nz/waitangi-day-a-manufactured-cycle-of-outrage/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=26-2-2025&_kx=uBMjkMr2C8pjfBkYE2tMrZxpVu7AAzZhqncqpA4naio.VYfxNg
There is at least one media outlet that breaks with media norms and is
not just one persons views.
And there the evidence appears to be that the Atlas Network speaks
with one mind!
Certainly the aggression from David Seymour has been an unwelcome
addition to what has previously been a celebration of heritage,
diversity, and common ground - sadly that is changing with the
imported neo-liberalism and the embrace of the interests of wealthy
political donors - which we are seeing in a loss of perceived
integrity - we can either choose to go down the Trump route or ensure
that at the next election the Atlas Network loses.
On 26/02/25 08:32, Tony wrote:
Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
https://centrist.nz/waitangi-day-a-manufactured-cycle-of-outrage/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=26-2-2025&_kx=uBMjkMr2C8pjfBkYE2tMrZxpVu7AAzZhqncqpA4naio.VYfxNgYes I think there is a really high likelihood that many people who have
There is at least one media outlet that breaks with media norms and is
not just one persons views.
supported the Treaty will start to question the validity of it. That's what the
sort of aggression shown at Waitangi does. The people who trigger this
behavious may well be doing their cause massive damage. If so it is of their >> own doing.
Centrist acts as a counterpoint to the bias shown in the MSM. No wonder people
criticise Centrist, they know it is trying to be fair and they hate that.
The whole event is pure theatre. The same old foot stomping, arm
thumping, facial grimacing and angry ranting year after year to
same old formula. Non-stop, unrestrained grifting.
On Wed, 26 Feb 2025 09:48:31 +1300, greybeard <nobody@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:
On 26/02/25 08:32, Tony wrote:
Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:The whole event is pure theatre. The same old foot stomping, arm
https://centrist.nz/waitangi-day-a-manufactured-cycle-of-outrage/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=26-2-2025&_kx=uBMjkMr2C8pjfBkYE2tMrZxpVu7AAzZhqncqpA4naio.VYfxNgYes I think there is a really high likelihood that many people who have
There is at least one media outlet that breaks with media norms and is >>>> not just one persons views.
supported the Treaty will start to question the validity of it. That's what the
sort of aggression shown at Waitangi does. The people who trigger this
behavious may well be doing their cause massive damage. If so it is of their
own doing.
Centrist acts as a counterpoint to the bias shown in the MSM. No wonder people
criticise Centrist, they know it is trying to be fair and they hate that. >>
thumping, facial grimacing and angry ranting year after year to
same old formula. Non-stop, unrestrained grifting.
And that is just the Scottish Country Dancing! I agree that Seymour is
most unattractive when he goes on his angry rants . . .
On 26/02/25 12:25, Rich80105 wrote:
On Wed, 26 Feb 2025 07:52:35 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
https://centrist.nz/waitangi-day-a-manufactured-cycle-of-outrage/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=26-2-2025&_kx=uBMjkMr2C8pjfBkYE2tMrZxpVu7AAzZhqncqpA4naio.VYfxNg
There is at least one media outlet that breaks with media norms and is
not just one persons views.
And there the evidence appears to be that the Atlas Network speaks
with one mind!
Certainly the aggression from David Seymour has been an unwelcome
addition to what has previously been a celebration of heritage,
diversity, and common ground - sadly that is changing with the
imported neo-liberalism and the embrace of the interests of wealthy
political donors - which we are seeing in a loss of perceived
integrity - we can either choose to go down the Trump route or ensure
that at the next election the Atlas Network loses.
Your posts are like Waitangi day. You repeat the same old tiresome off
topic toxic garbage.
Get some new material. Get help, your irrelevant.
On 26/02/25 12:25, Rich80105 wrote:
On Wed, 26 Feb 2025 07:52:35 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
https://centrist.nz/waitangi-day-a-manufactured-cycle-of-outrage/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=26-2-2025&_kx=uBMjkMr2C8pjfBkYE2tMrZxpVu7AAzZhqncqpA4naio.VYfxNg
There is at least one media outlet that breaks with media norms and is
not just one persons views.
And there the evidence appears to be that the Atlas Network speaks
with one mind!
Certainly the aggression from David Seymour has been an unwelcome
addition to what has previously been a celebration of heritage,
diversity, and common ground - sadly that is changing with the
imported neo-liberalism and the embrace of the interests of wealthy
political donors - which we are seeing in a loss of perceived
integrity - we can either choose to go down the Trump route or ensure
that at the next election the Atlas Network loses.
Your posts are like Waitangi day. You repeat the same old tiresome off
topic toxic garbage.
Get some new material. Get help, your irrelevant.
On Wed, 26 Feb 2025 13:15:16 +1300, greybeard <nobody@nowhere.invalid>Every word of that is a lie - you are transparently desperate and you are incapable of debating without abuse and rancour.
wrote:
On 26/02/25 12:25, Rich80105 wrote:
On Wed, 26 Feb 2025 07:52:35 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
https://centrist.nz/waitangi-day-a-manufactured-cycle-of-outrage/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=26-2-2025&_kx=uBMjkMr2C8pjfBkYE2tMrZxpVu7AAzZhqncqpA4naio.VYfxNg
There is at least one media outlet that breaks with media norms and is >>>> not just one persons views.
And there the evidence appears to be that the Atlas Network speaks
with one mind!
Certainly the aggression from David Seymour has been an unwelcome
addition to what has previously been a celebration of heritage,
diversity, and common ground - sadly that is changing with the
imported neo-liberalism and the embrace of the interests of wealthy
political donors - which we are seeing in a loss of perceived
integrity - we can either choose to go down the Trump route or ensure
that at the next election the Atlas Network loses.
Your posts are like Waitangi day. You repeat the same old tiresome off >>topic toxic garbage.
Get some new material. Get help, your irrelevant.
The article is the toxic garbage - no wonder nobody was prepared to
admit to being the author!
Waitangi has usually been a real celebration of what it means to be a
New Zealanders - to give a glimpse of one aspect of the common
interest and celebration of achievement and working together, watch
some of Te Matatini on television - that is how Waitangi could be
without the toxic intrusion of self-interest before others and deceit >inherent in the attacks on others that came through from Seymour, >representing the Atlas Network ideas, where he soured the day for
nearly everyone - and then he blamed the disappointment at his lack of >empathy, tolerance and loyalty to New Zealand on Maori!
The website from the link above is the most recent of a string ofAs above -
websites put together initially by the NZ Taxpayers Union to spread
toxic arguments and discord - each being replaced as it became clear
that they were a personal liability to anyone identifiable with them.
Those involved found they needed to move on as the spreading of such
elitist crap impacted negatively on how they were seen by others, and
I suspect in a couple of cases how they came to see themselves as
betraying our nation. There is safety in anonymity, and it appears
that help was provided from Canada to develop the website above and
enable the website to be relatively anonymous to protect the guilty -
and Canada just happens to be where Seymour and Jordan Williams were
trained by the Atlas Network . . .
So who do you think wrote the garbage in inventing the concept of >manufactured rage and applying it to create dissent and disunity,As above -
greybeard - every dictator needs distractions, and creating an enemy
helps. The Treaty is anathema to a political party whose priority is
to deliver to their financial backers - the Treaty requires
consultation, fairness, and agreement on some broad issues for the
greater good of all New Zealanders - and to combat that Seymour seeks
to set aside a solemn contract to disadvantage not only Maori but most
Pakeha as well; and he is frustrated by the evident reality that New >Zealanders value working together too well for divisive Trumpian
tactics to succeed.
On Wed, 26 Feb 2025 13:15:16 +1300, greybeard <nobody@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:
On 26/02/25 12:25, Rich80105 wrote:
On Wed, 26 Feb 2025 07:52:35 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
https://centrist.nz/waitangi-day-a-manufactured-cycle-of-outrage/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=26-2-2025&_kx=uBMjkMr2C8pjfBkYE2tMrZxpVu7AAzZhqncqpA4naio.VYfxNg
There is at least one media outlet that breaks with media norms and is >>>> not just one persons views.
And there the evidence appears to be that the Atlas Network speaks
with one mind!
Certainly the aggression from David Seymour has been an unwelcome
addition to what has previously been a celebration of heritage,
diversity, and common ground - sadly that is changing with the
imported neo-liberalism and the embrace of the interests of wealthy
political donors - which we are seeing in a loss of perceived
integrity - we can either choose to go down the Trump route or ensure
that at the next election the Atlas Network loses.
Your posts are like Waitangi day. You repeat the same old tiresome off >>topic toxic garbage.
Get some new material. Get help, your irrelevant.
The article is the toxic garbage - no wonder nobody was prepared to
admit to being the author!
Waitangi has usually been a real celebration of what it means to be a
New Zealanders - to give a glimpse of one aspect of the common
interest and celebration of achievement and working together, watch
some of Te Matatini on television - that is how Waitangi could be
without the toxic intrusion of self-interest before others and deceit >inherent in the attacks on others that came through from Seymour, >representing the Atlas Network ideas, where he soured the day for
nearly everyone - and then he blamed the disappointment at his lack of >empathy, tolerance and loyalty to New Zealand on Maori!
The website from the link above is the most recent of a string of
websites put together initially by the NZ Taxpayers Union to spread
toxic arguments and discord - each being replaced as it became clear
that they were a personal liability to anyone identifiable with them.
Those involved found they needed to move on as the spreading of such
elitist crap impacted negatively on how they were seen by others, and
I suspect in a couple of cases how they came to see themselves as
betraying our nation. There is safety in anonymity, and it appears
that help was provided from Canada to develop the website above and
enable the website to be relatively anonymous to protect the guilty -
and Canada just happens to be where Seymour and Jordan Williams were
trained by the Atlas Network . . .
So who do you think wrote the garbage in inventing the concept of >manufactured rage and applying it to create dissent and disunity,
greybeard - every dictator needs distractions, and creating an enemy
helps. The Treaty is anathema to a political party whose priority is
to deliver to their financial backers - the Treaty requires
consultation, fairness, and agreement on some broad issues for the
greater good of all New Zealanders - and to combat that Seymour seeks
to set aside a solemn contract to disadvantage not only Maori but most
Pakeha as well; and he is frustrated by the evident reality that New >Zealanders value working together too well for divisive Trumpian
tactics to succeed.
On Wed, 26 Feb 2025 12:25:15 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:And other disgraceful behaviour involving sex toys and what might have been excrement.
Certainly the aggression from David Seymour has been an unwelcome
addition to what has previously been a celebration of heritage,
diversity, and common ground ...
Forgetting the time Helen Clark was reduced to tears?
On Wed, 26 Feb 2025 12:25:15 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
Certainly the aggression from David Seymour has been an unwelcome
addition to what has previously been a celebration of heritage,
diversity, and common ground ...
Forgetting the time Helen Clark was reduced to tears?
Certainly the aggression from David Seymour has been an unwelcome
addition to what has previously been a celebration of heritage,
diversity, and common ground ...
On Wed, 26 Feb 2025 21:48:48 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro ><ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:The only side at fault was Maori on that occasion, and in fact every occasion since. The real Maori people need to hold their foolish and ignorant leaders to account and ensure the smart and caring ones take over, and there are many available. They are the silent majority, you support the ignorant and stupid minority.
On Wed, 26 Feb 2025 12:25:15 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
Certainly the aggression from David Seymour has been an unwelcome
addition to what has previously been a celebration of heritage,
diversity, and common ground ...
Forgetting the time Helen Clark was reduced to tears?
I think both sides realised that the incident was not good for either
the government or Maori - with protocols being clarified and amended
for all tribes at Waitangi - in part it was acknowledgement of a
policy difference - Seymour received more respect for more egregious
actions - perhaps both sides have learnt from the incident.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 26 Feb 2025 21:48:48 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro >><ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:The only side at fault was Maori on that occasion, and in fact every occasion >since. The real Maori people need to hold their foolish and ignorant leaders to
On Wed, 26 Feb 2025 12:25:15 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
Certainly the aggression from David Seymour has been an unwelcome
addition to what has previously been a celebration of heritage,
diversity, and common ground ...
Forgetting the time Helen Clark was reduced to tears?
I think both sides realised that the incident was not good for either
the government or Maori - with protocols being clarified and amended
for all tribes at Waitangi - in part it was acknowledgement of a
policy difference - Seymour received more respect for more egregious >>actions - perhaps both sides have learnt from the incident.
account and ensure the smart and caring ones take over, and there are many >available. They are the silent majority, you support the ignorant and stupid >minority.
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