https://newsroom.co.nz/2025/02/28/four-year-term-bill-will-come-back-to-bite-government-sir-geoffrey-palmer/

Some points to ponder here.

Seems that the majority want a 4 year term but owing to the existing 3 year term it is proving difficult to get it across the line.

" It is possible the mood of the nation has changed since then, but
politicians and interested parties wanting the change will have a
sizeable job convincing anyone to vote in favour of a four-year term,
if they aren’t fans of the government at the time of the
referendum."

Too true.

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On 4 Mar 2025 08:00:34 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

https://newsroom.co.nz/2025/02/28/four-year-term-bill-will-come-back-to-bite-government-sir-geoffrey-palmer/

Some points to ponder here.

Seems that the majority want a 4 year term but owing to the existing 3 year >term it is proving difficult to get it across the line.

" It is possible the mood of the nation has changed since then, but >politicians and interested parties wanting the change will have a
sizeable job convincing anyone to vote in favour of a four-year term,
if they aren’t fans of the government at the time of the
referendum."

Too true.

The article giving the views of Palmer is interesting - it appears
that the coalition agreement is the root cause of a lot of problems
for the government - it has enabled each party to push some things
through without the balancing effect of needing to seek consensus,
leading to strange timings and some issues being pushed to an extent
that they create problems for the other two parties. If the idea of a
longer term had been approached as a cross party consensus issue,
involving both government and opposition, some of the stranger ideas
would not have been put through, and it is possible a proposal with
greater appeal could have achieved some of the aims. Acting as three
separate organisations none of whom are prepared to talk to each other
let alone the three opposition parties has acted against the
government getting anything through.

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On Tue, 04 Mar 2025 21:55:10 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
wrote:

On 4 Mar 2025 08:00:34 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

https://newsroom.co.nz/2025/02/28/four-year-term-bill-will-come-back-to-bite-government-sir-geoffrey-palmer/

Some points to ponder here.

Seems that the majority want a 4 year term but owing to the existing 3 year >>term it is proving difficult to get it across the line.

" It is possible the mood of the nation has changed since then, but >>politicians and interested parties wanting the change will have a
sizeable job convincing anyone to vote in favour of a four-year term,
if they aren’t fans of the government at the time of the
referendum."

Too true.

The article giving the views of Palmer is interesting - it appears
that the coalition agreement is the root cause of a lot of problems
for the government - it has enabled each party to push some things
through without the balancing effect of needing to seek consensus,
leading to strange timings and some issues being pushed to an extent
that they create problems for the other two parties. If the idea of a
longer term had been approached as a cross party consensus issue,
involving both government and opposition, some of the stranger ideas
would not have been put through, and it is possible a proposal with
greater appeal could have achieved some of the aims. Acting as three
separate organisations none of whom are prepared to talk to each other
let alone the three opposition parties has acted against the
government getting anything through.

The 'coalition Government' is the result voters delivered in the last
general election. Party-voters supported ACT and NZ First in
sufficient number for this to happen.

The previous Labour Government enacted '3-waters' legislation that was
not mentioned in their manifesto before the 2020 election. It is the
major reason I oppose any move to extend Parliamentary terms.

I have no problem with Bills like this one - the real fight comes in
the lead-up to the referendum.


--
Crash McBash

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Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On 4 Mar 2025 08:00:34 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

https://newsroom.co.nz/2025/02/28/four-year-term-bill-will-come-back-to-bite-government-sir-geoffrey-palmer/

Some points to ponder here.

Seems that the majority want a 4 year term but owing to the existing 3 year >>term it is proving difficult to get it across the line.

" It is possible the mood of the nation has changed since then, but >>politicians and interested parties wanting the change will have a
sizeable job convincing anyone to vote in favour of a four-year term,
if they aren’t fans of the government at the time of the
referendum."

Too true.

The article giving the views of Palmer is interesting - it appears
that the coalition agreement is the root cause of a lot of problems
for the government - it has enabled each party to push some things
through without the balancing effect of needing to seek consensus,
leading to strange timings and some issues being pushed to an extent
that they create problems for the other two parties. If the idea of a
longer term had been approached as a cross party consensus issue,
involving both government and opposition, some of the stranger ideas
would not have been put through, and it is possible a proposal with
greater appeal could have achieved some of the aims. Acting as three
separate organisations none of whom are prepared to talk to each other
let alone the three opposition parties has acted against the
government getting anything through.

The coalition is a direct result of voter decision making. Nothing more.
The Labour government from 2017 had exactly the same issue.
Of course they talk to each other except in the minds of people who are driven by wishes instead of fact.

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