• Getting political

    From Gordon@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 5 01:59:14 2025
    https://www.reddit.com/r/ConservativeKiwi/comments/1j3nkca/anyones_kids_being_pressured_into_hating_the/

    While reddit is an echo chamber, there are some worthwhile points.

    "I've been curious of the school lunch issues going on. Thought I'd find out from a couple nephews who attend different schools.
    The lunches don't look appetising, but I got to try the butter chicken,
    and it was fine honestly. Worse than a restaurant, but fine. One of my
    nephews however, had an interesting story from school.

    Turns out their teacher was encouraging them to reject the lunches.
    Telling them they'll get better food if they say they don't like this food.
    My brother doesn't care enough to complain into the school and they're
    not going to care what some uncle says, but I found it interesting.

    It's just an anecdote though, could be a one off shit teacher, but I'd
    love to hear from those of you with kids, I'm curious if others are
    finding some "encouragement" from teachers to take issue with the lunches.
    I doubt there's some co-ordinated movement, but if my nephew's teacher
    got the idea, others could too.

    I wonder how much of the outrage is being engineered. Kids are easily influenced and will happily go along with things just to seem like they
    align with the adults around them, and with so many adults taking issue
    with it, what's the say the kids aren't just mimicking that? "

    This thought had crossed mind. A case of NACT delivering a total disaster,
    no way could it, or would it every, be any good and because it was from the other tribe.

    Both sides agree in lunches are a good idea and David Seymour took control assuring that they could do better than the existing situation.

    To my mind the end goal remains the same, lunches the children eat
    willingly. Even if it is a case of going back to how it was. Experience is a hard but fair teacher.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Gordon on Wed Mar 5 06:11:15 2025
    Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote: >https://www.reddit.com/r/ConservativeKiwi/comments/1j3nkca/anyones_kids_being_pressured_into_hating_the/

    While reddit is an echo chamber, there are some worthwhile points.

    "I've been curious of the school lunch issues going on. Thought I'd find out >from a couple nephews who attend different schools.
    The lunches don't look appetising, but I got to try the butter chicken,
    and it was fine honestly. Worse than a restaurant, but fine. One of my >nephews however, had an interesting story from school.

    Turns out their teacher was encouraging them to reject the lunches.
    Telling them they'll get better food if they say they don't like this food. >My brother doesn't care enough to complain into the school and they're
    not going to care what some uncle says, but I found it interesting.

    It's just an anecdote though, could be a one off shit teacher, but I'd
    love to hear from those of you with kids, I'm curious if others are
    finding some "encouragement" from teachers to take issue with the lunches.
    I doubt there's some co-ordinated movement, but if my nephew's teacher
    got the idea, others could too.

    I wonder how much of the outrage is being engineered. Kids are easily >influenced and will happily go along with things just to seem like they
    align with the adults around them, and with so many adults taking issue
    with it, what's the say the kids aren't just mimicking that? "

    This thought had crossed mind. A case of NACT delivering a total disaster,
    no way could it, or would it every, be any good and because it was from the >other tribe.

    Both sides agree in lunches are a good idea and David Seymour took control >assuring that they could do better than the existing situation.

    To my mind the end goal remains the same, lunches the children eat
    willingly. Even if it is a case of going back to how it was. Experience is a >hard but fair teacher.
    The issue has to be fixed but there is clearly some politicking going on and not only from the opposition. Teachers are predominantly left wing voters.

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  • From Crash@21:1/5 to Gordon on Wed Mar 5 19:23:31 2025
    On 5 Mar 2025 01:59:14 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ConservativeKiwi/comments/1j3nkca/anyones_kids_being_pressured_into_hating_the/

    While reddit is an echo chamber, there are some worthwhile points.

    "I've been curious of the school lunch issues going on. Thought I'd find out >from a couple nephews who attend different schools.
    The lunches don't look appetising, but I got to try the butter chicken,
    and it was fine honestly. Worse than a restaurant, but fine. One of my >nephews however, had an interesting story from school.

    Turns out their teacher was encouraging them to reject the lunches.
    Telling them they'll get better food if they say they don't like this food. >My brother doesn't care enough to complain into the school and they're
    not going to care what some uncle says, but I found it interesting.

    It's just an anecdote though, could be a one off shit teacher, but I'd
    love to hear from those of you with kids, I'm curious if others are
    finding some "encouragement" from teachers to take issue with the lunches.
    I doubt there's some co-ordinated movement, but if my nephew's teacher
    got the idea, others could too.

    I wonder how much of the outrage is being engineered. Kids are easily >influenced and will happily go along with things just to seem like they
    align with the adults around them, and with so many adults taking issue
    with it, what's the say the kids aren't just mimicking that? "

    This thought had crossed mind. A case of NACT delivering a total disaster,
    no way could it, or would it every, be any good and because it was from the >other tribe.

    Both sides agree in lunches are a good idea and David Seymour took control >assuring that they could do better than the existing situation.

    To my mind the end goal remains the same, lunches the children eat
    willingly. Even if it is a case of going back to how it was. Experience is a >hard but fair teacher.

    What is being lost in the school lunches debate is the core
    requirement for parents to feed their children properly. If they do
    not or cannot do this then the rational option is to go down the path
    with parents who neglect their children, rather than plug the gaps
    with school lunches and the associated costs of provisioning,
    distribution (both to and within schools) and the associated admin.
    Also being lost in this debate is the option of children being
    supplied with a better lunch by their parents or guardians. Eating a
    school lunch that the state provides is never compulsory.

    The current school lunch program does need to be corrected - but from
    the point of view of value for taxpayer spending first (we taxpayers
    are paying for and not getting the contracted service), but the
    ultimate goal is to eliminate school pupils coming to school without
    being properly fed by their parent/guardian.


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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 6 07:40:50 2025
    On Wed, 05 Mar 2025 19:23:31 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 5 Mar 2025 01:59:14 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ConservativeKiwi/comments/1j3nkca/anyones_kids_being_pressured_into_hating_the/

    While reddit is an echo chamber, there are some worthwhile points.

    "I've been curious of the school lunch issues going on. Thought I'd find out >>from a couple nephews who attend different schools.
    The lunches don't look appetising, but I got to try the butter chicken,
    and it was fine honestly. Worse than a restaurant, but fine. One of my >>nephews however, had an interesting story from school.

    Turns out their teacher was encouraging them to reject the lunches.
    Telling them they'll get better food if they say they don't like this food. >>My brother doesn't care enough to complain into the school and they're
    not going to care what some uncle says, but I found it interesting.

    It's just an anecdote though, could be a one off shit teacher, but I'd
    love to hear from those of you with kids, I'm curious if others are
    finding some "encouragement" from teachers to take issue with the lunches. >>I doubt there's some co-ordinated movement, but if my nephew's teacher
    got the idea, others could too.

    I wonder how much of the outrage is being engineered. Kids are easily >>influenced and will happily go along with things just to seem like they >>align with the adults around them, and with so many adults taking issue >>with it, what's the say the kids aren't just mimicking that? "

    This thought had crossed mind. A case of NACT delivering a total disaster, >>no way could it, or would it every, be any good and because it was from the >>other tribe.

    Both sides agree in lunches are a good idea and David Seymour took control >>assuring that they could do better than the existing situation.

    To my mind the end goal remains the same, lunches the children eat >>willingly. Even if it is a case of going back to how it was. Experience is a >>hard but fair teacher.

    What is being lost in the school lunches debate is the core
    requirement for parents to feed their children properly. If they do
    not or cannot do this then the rational option is to go down the path
    with parents who neglect their children, rather than plug the gaps
    with school lunches and the associated costs of provisioning,
    distribution (both to and within schools) and the associated admin.
    Also being lost in this debate is the option of children being
    supplied with a better lunch by their parents or guardians. Eating a
    school lunch that the state provides is never compulsory.

    The current school lunch program does need to be corrected - but from
    the point of view of value for taxpayer spending first (we taxpayers
    are paying for and not getting the contracted service), but the
    ultimate goal is to eliminate school pupils coming to school without
    being properly fed by their parent/guardian.

    These are low decile schools only, Crash - and that means that parents
    are often in low paying jobs or are unemployed. For many unemployed or
    on low wages, income has reduced in real terms, and costs have
    increased.

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