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    From Gordon@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 5 23:28:49 2025
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/543920/inland-revenue-will-continue-calls-causing-fears-over-scammers

    If you want to keep a high level of security up both sides have to "play by
    the rules".

    Scams have involved the IRD and they have made an effort to educate the
    public not to engage with cold calls or e-mails looking as if the are from
    the IRD.

    They even have

    https://www.ird.govt.nz/managing-my-tax/scams

    So how do you think the average person is going to respond when the phone
    rings and there is talk about you changing your password.

    Why does the IRD web site on the front page Say Please upgrade to 2FA. Along with the reasons and how to do it. Then at least people could do it.

    Going to MyIR one can send a secure message to the IRD and vica verca. This
    is the system they have introduced, similar to other places where high
    security is needed.

    If the customer only visits the myIR arounf tax return time then contact the customer and say Message in myIR, please log in and read.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Gordon on Thu Mar 6 01:09:47 2025
    Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote: >https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/543920/inland-revenue-will-continue-calls-causing-fears-over-scammers

    If you want to keep a high level of security up both sides have to "play by >the rules".

    Scams have involved the IRD and they have made an effort to educate the >public not to engage with cold calls or e-mails looking as if the are from >the IRD.

    They even have

    https://www.ird.govt.nz/managing-my-tax/scams

    So how do you think the average person is going to respond when the phone >rings and there is talk about you changing your password.

    Why does the IRD web site on the front page Say Please upgrade to 2FA. Along >with the reasons and how to do it. Then at least people could do it.

    Going to MyIR one can send a secure message to the IRD and vica verca. This >is the system they have introduced, similar to other places where high >security is needed.

    If the customer only visits the myIR arounf tax return time then contact the >customer and say Message in myIR, please log in and read.
    It was obviously badly thought through. They are fixing it now. If they call me I will not engage on the phone and will log in to MyIR.

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  • From Crash@21:1/5 to Gordon on Thu Mar 6 17:34:32 2025
    On 5 Mar 2025 23:28:49 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/543920/inland-revenue-will-continue-calls-causing-fears-over-scammers

    If you want to keep a high level of security up both sides have to "play by >the rules".

    Scams have involved the IRD and they have made an effort to educate the >public not to engage with cold calls or e-mails looking as if the are from >the IRD.

    They even have

    https://www.ird.govt.nz/managing-my-tax/scams

    So how do you think the average person is going to respond when the phone >rings and there is talk about you changing your password.

    Why does the IRD web site on the front page Say Please upgrade to 2FA. Along >with the reasons and how to do it. Then at least people could do it.

    Going to MyIR one can send a secure message to the IRD and vica verca. This >is the system they have introduced, similar to other places where high >security is needed.

    If the customer only visits the myIR arounf tax return time then contact the >customer and say Message in myIR, please log in and read.

    The IRD should never cold-call anyone. If I received a call from
    someone purporting to be from the IRD I would automatically hang up.
    Looking at the cited article it seems that the IRD will now text
    first, then call. This is also flawed - if the called party has not
    read the text they are non-the-wiser.

    The IRD should email each user, telling them there is an important
    issue that requires their attention by logging on to MYIR (no link in
    the email). When anyone logs on to the MYIR website that does not
    have 2FA set up, warn them when they next log on.


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