• Re: Goff Is Sacked As UK High Comm For Quoting Churchill

    From Tony@21:1/5 to Lawrence D'Oliveiro on Thu Mar 6 01:12:36 2025
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    Phil Goff is being sacked as UK High Commissioner, for being unable to
    keep quiet about what the Fascist regime in Dumbfuckistan is up to ><https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/phil-goff-to-go-as-uk-high-commissioner-after-deeply-disappointing-donald-trump-comments/K6Z57WF6SJH7POVI4OFKNXVH64/>:

    Asking a question of Finnish Foreign Affairs Minister Elina
    Valtonen at a Chatham House event in London this week, Goff said
    he had been re-reading a speech from former UK Prime Minister
    Winston Churchill in 1938 after the Munich Agreement.

    “He turned to Chamberlain, he said, ‘You had the choice between
    war and dishonour. You chose dishonour, yet you will have war’,”
    Goff said,

    “President Trump has restored the bust of Churchill to the Oval
    Office. But do you think he really understands history?”

    ...

    Following Goff’s question, those in attendance at the event
    laughed. The Finnish minister also smirked and said she would
    limit her comments, clearly recognising the delicacy that remarks
    about Trump require.

    “In this time, and I did it myself, I quoted Sir Winston Churchill
    and he has made some very timeless remarks,” she said, smirking
    again.

    Let me just add another Churchill quote: “The appeaser is the one who
    feeds the crocodile, hoping it will eat him last”.
    Anybody who knows anything about requireddiplomat behaviour would agree with the dismissal. All else is irrelevant.
    Your left wing spin is noted as is Helen's.

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 6 00:21:01 2025
    Phil Goff is being sacked as UK High Commissioner, for being unable to
    keep quiet about what the Fascist regime in Dumbfuckistan is up to <https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/phil-goff-to-go-as-uk-high-commissioner-after-deeply-disappointing-donald-trump-comments/K6Z57WF6SJH7POVI4OFKNXVH64/>:

    Asking a question of Finnish Foreign Affairs Minister Elina
    Valtonen at a Chatham House event in London this week, Goff said
    he had been re-reading a speech from former UK Prime Minister
    Winston Churchill in 1938 after the Munich Agreement.

    “He turned to Chamberlain, he said, ‘You had the choice between
    war and dishonour. You chose dishonour, yet you will have war’,”
    Goff said,

    “President Trump has restored the bust of Churchill to the Oval
    Office. But do you think he really understands history?”

    ...

    Following Goff’s question, those in attendance at the event
    laughed. The Finnish minister also smirked and said she would
    limit her comments, clearly recognising the delicacy that remarks
    about Trump require.

    “In this time, and I did it myself, I quoted Sir Winston Churchill
    and he has made some very timeless remarks,” she said, smirking
    again.

    Let me just add another Churchill quote: “The appeaser is the one who
    feeds the crocodile, hoping it will eat him last”.

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  • From Crash@21:1/5 to ldo@nz.invalid on Thu Mar 6 17:26:07 2025
    On Thu, 6 Mar 2025 00:21:01 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
    <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    Phil Goff is being sacked as UK High Commissioner, for being unable to
    keep quiet about what the Fascist regime in Dumbfuckistan is up to ><https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/phil-goff-to-go-as-uk-high-commissioner-after-deeply-disappointing-donald-trump-comments/K6Z57WF6SJH7POVI4OFKNXVH64/>:

    Asking a question of Finnish Foreign Affairs Minister Elina
    Valtonen at a Chatham House event in London this week, Goff said
    he had been re-reading a speech from former UK Prime Minister
    Winston Churchill in 1938 after the Munich Agreement.

    He turned to Chamberlain, he said, You had the choice between
    war and dishonour. You chose dishonour, yet you will have war,
    Goff said,

    President Trump has restored the bust of Churchill to the Oval
    Office. But do you think he really understands history?

    ...

    Following Goffs question, those in attendance at the event
    laughed. The Finnish minister also smirked and said she would
    limit her comments, clearly recognising the delicacy that remarks
    about Trump require.

    In this time, and I did it myself, I quoted Sir Winston Churchill
    and he has made some very timeless remarks, she said, smirking
    again.

    Let me just add another Churchill quote: The appeaser is the one who
    feeds the crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.

    According to a news source I read today, Goff was sacked because of
    his comment about Trump's understanding of history.


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    Crash McBash

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Sun Mar 9 16:03:58 2025
    On Thu, 6 Mar 2025 01:12:36 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    Phil Goff is being sacked as UK High Commissioner, for being unable to
    keep quiet about what the Fascist regime in Dumbfuckistan is up to >><https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/phil-goff-to-go-as-uk-high-commissioner-after-deeply-disappointing-donald-trump-comments/K6Z57WF6SJH7POVI4OFKNXVH64/>:

    Asking a question of Finnish Foreign Affairs Minister Elina
    Valtonen at a Chatham House event in London this week, Goff said
    he had been re-reading a speech from former UK Prime Minister
    Winston Churchill in 1938 after the Munich Agreement.

    “He turned to Chamberlain, he said, ‘You had the choice between
    war and dishonour. You chose dishonour, yet you will have war’,?
    Goff said,

    “President Trump has restored the bust of Churchill to the Oval
    Office. But do you think he really understands history??

    ...

    Following Goff’s question, those in attendance at the event
    laughed. The Finnish minister also smirked and said she would
    limit her comments, clearly recognising the delicacy that remarks
    about Trump require.

    “In this time, and I did it myself, I quoted Sir Winston Churchill
    and he has made some very timeless remarks,? she said, smirking
    again.

    Let me just add another Churchill quote: “The appeaser is the one who >>feeds the crocodile, hoping it will eat him last?.
    Anybody who knows anything about requireddiplomat behaviour would agree with >the dismissal. All else is irrelevant.
    Your left wing spin is noted as is Helen's.

    Try a search on "Chatham House Rules"

    Your Trumpist levels of honesty, decency and compassion for those
    wronged is noted, Tony.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Sun Mar 9 05:27:03 2025
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 6 Mar 2025 01:12:36 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    Phil Goff is being sacked as UK High Commissioner, for being unable to >>>keep quiet about what the Fascist regime in Dumbfuckistan is up to >>><https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/phil-goff-to-go-as-uk-high-commissioner-after-deeply-disappointing-donald-trump-comments/K6Z57WF6SJH7POVI4OFKNXVH64/>:

    Asking a question of Finnish Foreign Affairs Minister Elina
    Valtonen at a Chatham House event in London this week, Goff said
    he had been re-reading a speech from former UK Prime Minister
    Winston Churchill in 1938 after the Munich Agreement.

    “He turned to Chamberlain, he said, ‘You had the choice between
    war and dishonour. You chose dishonour, yet you will have war’,?
    Goff said,

    “President Trump has restored the bust of Churchill to the Oval
    Office. But do you think he really understands history??

    ...

    Following Goff’s question, those in attendance at the event
    laughed. The Finnish minister also smirked and said she would
    limit her comments, clearly recognising the delicacy that remarks
    about Trump require.

    “In this time, and I did it myself, I quoted Sir Winston Churchill
    and he has made some very timeless remarks,? she said, smirking
    again.

    Let me just add another Churchill quote: “The appeaser is the one who >>>feeds the crocodile, hoping it will eat him last?.
    Anybody who knows anything about requireddiplomat behaviour would agree with >>the dismissal. All else is irrelevant.
    Your left wing spin is noted as is Helen's.

    Try a search on "Chatham House Rules"
    Unnecessary.

    Your Trumpist levels of honesty, decency and compassion for those
    wronged is noted, Tony.
    You are wrong and you are lost in your own idiocy and ineptness. Goff was speaking as the High Commissioner of New Zealand, he actually announced himself as such (watch the video which was well published at the time. He then mafde fun of and questioned the ability of a President of the USA. No diplomat should ever do eiither of those things in any public forum. Chatham House rules, which I understand far better than you, do not apply.
    You are a nasty little cretin with the intelligence of a slug.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Sun Mar 9 20:02:48 2025
    On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 05:27:03 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 6 Mar 2025 01:12:36 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    Phil Goff is being sacked as UK High Commissioner, for being unable to >>>>keep quiet about what the Fascist regime in Dumbfuckistan is up to >>>><https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/phil-goff-to-go-as-uk-high-commissioner-after-deeply-disappointing-donald-trump-comments/K6Z57WF6SJH7POVI4OFKNXVH64/>:

    Asking a question of Finnish Foreign Affairs Minister Elina
    Valtonen at a Chatham House event in London this week, Goff said
    he had been re-reading a speech from former UK Prime Minister
    Winston Churchill in 1938 after the Munich Agreement.

    “He turned to Chamberlain, he said, ‘You had the choice between >>>> war and dishonour. You chose dishonour, yet you will have war’,? >>>> Goff said,

    “President Trump has restored the bust of Churchill to the Oval
    Office. But do you think he really understands history??

    ...

    Following Goff’s question, those in attendance at the event
    laughed. The Finnish minister also smirked and said she would
    limit her comments, clearly recognising the delicacy that remarks
    about Trump require.

    “In this time, and I did it myself, I quoted Sir Winston Churchill >>>> and he has made some very timeless remarks,? she said, smirking
    again.

    Let me just add another Churchill quote: “The appeaser is the one who >>>>feeds the crocodile, hoping it will eat him last?.
    Anybody who knows anything about requireddiplomat behaviour would agree with >>>the dismissal. All else is irrelevant.
    Your left wing spin is noted as is Helen's.

    Try a search on "Chatham House Rules"
    Unnecessary.
    Wilful ignorance - did that come with your Atlas training?

    Your Trumpist levels of honesty, decency and compassion for those
    wronged is noted, Tony.
    You are wrong and you are lost in your own idiocy and ineptness. Goff was >speaking as the High Commissioner of New Zealand, he actually announced himself
    as such (watch the video which was well published at the time. He then mafde >fun of and questioned the ability of a President of the USA. No diplomat should
    ever do eiither of those things in any public forum. Chatham House rules, which
    I understand far better than you, do not apply.
    You are a nasty little cretin with the intelligence of a slug.
    Insults from you just confirm that you accept the criticism but do not
    like it. Suck it up, "Actoid"

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Sun Mar 9 08:14:03 2025
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 05:27:03 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 6 Mar 2025 01:12:36 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    Phil Goff is being sacked as UK High Commissioner, for being unable to >>>>>keep quiet about what the Fascist regime in Dumbfuckistan is up to >>>>><https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/phil-goff-to-go-as-uk-high-commissioner-after-deeply-disappointing-donald-trump-comments/K6Z57WF6SJH7POVI4OFKNXVH64/>:

    Asking a question of Finnish Foreign Affairs Minister Elina
    Valtonen at a Chatham House event in London this week, Goff said
    he had been re-reading a speech from former UK Prime Minister
    Winston Churchill in 1938 after the Munich Agreement.

    “He turned to Chamberlain, he said, ‘You had the choice between >>>>> war and dishonour. You chose dishonour, yet you will have war’,? >>>>> Goff said,

    “President Trump has restored the bust of Churchill to the Oval >>>>> Office. But do you think he really understands history??

    ...

    Following Goff’s question, those in attendance at the event
    laughed. The Finnish minister also smirked and said she would
    limit her comments, clearly recognising the delicacy that remarks >>>>> about Trump require.

    “In this time, and I did it myself, I quoted Sir Winston Churchill >>>>> and he has made some very timeless remarks,? she said, smirking >>>>> again.

    Let me just add another Churchill quote: “The appeaser is the one who >>>>>feeds the crocodile, hoping it will eat him last?.
    Anybody who knows anything about requireddiplomat behaviour would agree >>>>with
    the dismissal. All else is irrelevant.
    Your left wing spin is noted as is Helen's.

    Try a search on "Chatham House Rules"
    Unnecessary.
    Wilful ignorance - did that come with your Atlas training?
    No such thing as Atlas training and I am not at all surprised at your wilful ignorance. At least, however, you are aware of that trait of yours - now you need to get some help again!

    Your Trumpist levels of honesty, decency and compassion for those
    wronged is noted, Tony.
    You are wrong and you are lost in your own idiocy and ineptness. Goff was >>speaking as the High Commissioner of New Zealand, he actually announced >>himself
    as such (watch the video which was well published at the time. He then mafde >>fun of and questioned the ability of a President of the USA. No diplomat >>should
    ever do eiither of those things in any public forum. Chatham House rules, >>which
    I understand far better than you, do not apply.
    You are a nasty little cretin with the intelligence of a slug.
    Insults from you just confirm that you accept the criticism but do not
    like it. Suck it up, "Actoid"
    I don't use actoid, is your psoriasis really bad?


    Chatham House rules are applied only in a small percentage of meetings there. The rules are such that who says what is never published.
    There were journalists at the Goff meeting, therefore Chatham House rules were not in play. Do you get that you silly little twerp?

    Goff showed that he was on duty by announcing himself as a diplomat (a High Commissioner in fact).

    His behaviour was a disgrace and even Hipkins did not disagree with the quite proper and only possible decision that Peters made. I guess you ignored that little gem, eh?

    You don't have a clue what you are talking about.
    You are a nasty, little child who gets off with your abuse - how sad you are. No wonder you have no friends.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Tony on Mon Mar 10 23:37:18 2025
    Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 05:27:03 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 6 Mar 2025 01:12:36 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    Phil Goff is being sacked as UK High Commissioner, for being unable to >>>>>>keep quiet about what the Fascist regime in Dumbfuckistan is up to >>>>>><https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/phil-goff-to-go-as-uk-high-commissioner-after-deeply-disappointing-donald-trump-comments/K6Z57WF6SJH7POVI4OFKNXVH64/>:

    Asking a question of Finnish Foreign Affairs Minister Elina
    Valtonen at a Chatham House event in London this week, Goff said >>>>>> he had been re-reading a speech from former UK Prime Minister
    Winston Churchill in 1938 after the Munich Agreement.

    “He turned to Chamberlain, he said, ‘You had the choice between >>>>>> war and dishonour. You chose dishonour, yet you will have war’,? >>>>>> Goff said,

    “President Trump has restored the bust of Churchill to the Oval >>>>>> Office. But do you think he really understands history??

    ...

    Following Goff’s question, those in attendance at the event
    laughed. The Finnish minister also smirked and said she would
    limit her comments, clearly recognising the delicacy that remarks >>>>>> about Trump require.

    “In this time, and I did it myself, I quoted Sir Winston Churchill >>>>>> and he has made some very timeless remarks,? she said, smirking >>>>>> again.

    Let me just add another Churchill quote: “The appeaser is the one who >>>>>>feeds the crocodile, hoping it will eat him last?.
    Anybody who knows anything about requireddiplomat behaviour would agree >>>>>with
    the dismissal. All else is irrelevant.
    Your left wing spin is noted as is Helen's.

    Try a search on "Chatham House Rules"
    Unnecessary.
    Wilful ignorance - did that come with your Atlas training?
    No such thing as Atlas training and I am not at all surprised at your wilful >ignorance. At least, however, you are aware of that trait of yours - now you >need to get some help again!

    Your Trumpist levels of honesty, decency and compassion for those >>>>wronged is noted, Tony.
    You are wrong and you are lost in your own idiocy and ineptness. Goff was >>>speaking as the High Commissioner of New Zealand, he actually announced >>>himself
    as such (watch the video which was well published at the time. He then mafde >>>fun of and questioned the ability of a President of the USA. No diplomat >>>should
    ever do eiither of those things in any public forum. Chatham House rules, >>>which
    I understand far better than you, do not apply.
    You are a nasty little cretin with the intelligence of a slug.
    Insults from you just confirm that you accept the criticism but do not
    like it. Suck it up, "Actoid"
    I don't use actoid, is your psoriasis really bad?


    Chatham House rules are applied only in a small percentage of meetings there. >The rules are such that who says what is never published.
    There were journalists at the Goff meeting, therefore Chatham House rules were >not in play. Do you get that you silly little twerp?

    Goff showed that he was on duty by announcing himself as a diplomat (a High >Commissioner in fact).

    His behaviour was a disgrace and even Hipkins did not disagree with the quite >proper and only possible decision that Peters made. I guess you ignored that >little gem, eh?

    You don't have a clue what you are talking about.
    You are a nasty, little child who gets off with your abuse - how sad you are. >No wonder you have no friends.
    No response Ric? THought not.
    One day someone might replace you that can do simple research and that is not so abusive, we can but hope.

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