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On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 12:38:38 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
wrote:
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First time I have seen a Church refer to Jesus and a thing.
On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 12:38:38 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>Can you explain your comment, Crash? Was the thing Christianity, the
wrote:
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First time I have seen a Church refer to Jesus and a thing.
On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 13:15:42 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 12:38:38 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:Can you explain your comment, Crash? Was the thing Christianity, the
First time I have seen a Church refer to Jesus and a thing.https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=1184345800363516&set=a.498321638965939 >>
10 Commandments, Schools, or Free Lunches?
On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 13:15:42 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>Do get some English language lessons.
wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 12:38:38 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:Can you explain your comment, Crash? Was the thing Christianity, the
First time I have seen a Church refer to Jesus and a thing.https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=1184345800363516&set=a.498321638965939 >>
10 Commandments, Schools, or Free Lunches?
On 2025-03-17, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 13:15:42 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>No it was the Atlas organisation.
wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 12:38:38 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>wrote:Can you explain your comment, Crash? Was the thing Christianity, the
First time I have seen a Church refer to Jesus and a thing.https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=1184345800363516&set=a.498321638965939 >>>
10 Commandments, Schools, or Free Lunches?
".. you are worshiping some thing other than Jesus" A typo eh?
On 2025-03-17, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 13:15:42 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>No it was the Atlas organisation.
wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 12:38:38 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>wrote:Can you explain your comment, Crash? Was the thing Christianity, the
First time I have seen a Church refer to Jesus and a thing.https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=1184345800363516&set=a.498321638965939 >>>
10 Commandments, Schools, or Free Lunches?
".. you are worshiping some thing other than Jesus" A typo eh?
On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 19:29:05 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On 17 Mar 2025 03:58:45 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2025-03-17, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 13:15:42 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>No it was the Atlas organisation.
wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 12:38:38 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>wrote:Can you explain your comment, Crash? Was the thing Christianity, the
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=1184345800363516&set=a.498321638965939
First time I have seen a Church refer to Jesus and a thing.
10 Commandments, Schools, or Free Lunches?
".. you are worshiping some thing other than Jesus" A typo eh?
Probably. Ironic that a Church should make a careless mistake.
The Atlas Network is well known as a primary driver for David
Seymour's policies regarding taking from the poor - school lunches
come after reductions in benefits and reductions in the minimum wage
leading to more poor that need help with school lunches. As a comment
says, they (that are taking free lunches out of schools) are
worshipping money . . .
On 17 Mar 2025 03:58:45 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2025-03-17, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 13:15:42 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>No it was the Atlas organisation.
wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 12:38:38 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>wrote:Can you explain your comment, Crash? Was the thing Christianity, the
First time I have seen a Church refer to Jesus and a thing.https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=1184345800363516&set=a.498321638965939 >>>>
10 Commandments, Schools, or Free Lunches?
".. you are worshiping some thing other than Jesus" A typo eh?
Probably. Ironic that a Church should make a careless mistake.
On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 21:02:13 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 19:29:05 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>wrote:
On 17 Mar 2025 03:58:45 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2025-03-17, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 13:15:42 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>> wrote:No it was the Atlas organisation.
On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 12:38:38 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>>wrote:Can you explain your comment, Crash? Was the thing Christianity, the >>>>> 10 Commandments, Schools, or Free Lunches?
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=1184345800363516&set=a.498321638965939
First time I have seen a Church refer to Jesus and a thing.
".. you are worshiping some thing other than Jesus" A typo eh?
Probably. Ironic that a Church should make a careless mistake.
The Atlas Network is well known as a primary driver for David
Seymour's policies regarding taking from the poor - school lunches
come after reductions in benefits and reductions in the minimum wage >>leading to more poor that need help with school lunches. As a comment
says, they (that are taking free lunches out of schools) are
worshipping money . . .
I never mentioned the Atlas Network. You cannot provide any credible
link that the Atlas Network is in any way connected to the School
Lunch program.
On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 21:13:30 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>Gordon was being ironic, it went way over your head.
wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 21:02:13 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 19:29:05 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>wrote:
On 17 Mar 2025 03:58:45 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2025-03-17, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 13:15:42 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>>> wrote:No it was the Atlas organisation.
On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 12:38:38 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>wrote:Can you explain your comment, Crash? Was the thing Christianity, the >>>>>> 10 Commandments, Schools, or Free Lunches?
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=1184345800363516&set=a.498321638965939
First time I have seen a Church refer to Jesus and a thing.
".. you are worshiping some thing other than Jesus" A typo eh?
Probably. Ironic that a Church should make a careless mistake.
The Atlas Network is well known as a primary driver for David
Seymour's policies regarding taking from the poor - school lunches
come after reductions in benefits and reductions in the minimum wage >>>leading to more poor that need help with school lunches. As a comment >>>says, they (that are taking free lunches out of schools) are
worshipping money . . .
I never mentioned the Atlas Network. You cannot provide any credible
link that the Atlas Network is in any way connected to the School
Lunch program.
Gordon suggested that above
- it is well known that the Atlas NetworkUntrue, all lies. You have never shown any of those connections. But it is well known in your fantasy world.
includes in New Zealand the NZ Taxpayers Union (and through that
organisation the "Groundswell" organisation), The NZCPR and a range of >related websites including The Centrist - "Dirty Tricks" had a
significant effect on developing defence mechanisms to pretend that
reality is not what people see, but there is no doubt that the Atlas
Network is significant in New Zealand - starting with Seymour and then
Jordan Williams graduating from one of their development courses, and
also following the same attack lines as the Atlas Network provided for
Trump. Now I suspect that not even Atlas would claim that they are
getting what they wanted from Trump, and even Seymour will I am sure
admit to associates that he has made mistakes, but it is the largest
coherent group of think tanks and political advisers of any party in
New Zealand, raising more money than most political parties, and using
that money for political purposes.
However you may be "Right" - there is little evidence that AtlasOff topic nonsense.
dreamed up the actions that Seymour took - and there will not be -
nobody could be proud of that mess, but it was an Atlas type attempt
to replace cost with poor quality. Certainly money was behind it, and
I suspect that may well have been Seymour just applying his mantra
about making government smaller - is there any division between
Seymour and Atlas?
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 21:13:30 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>wrote:Gordon was being ironic, it went way over your head.
On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 21:02:13 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 19:29:05 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>wrote:
On 17 Mar 2025 03:58:45 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2025-03-17, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 13:15:42 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>>>> wrote:No it was the Atlas organisation.
On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 12:38:38 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>wrote:Can you explain your comment, Crash? Was the thing Christianity, the >>>>>>> 10 Commandments, Schools, or Free Lunches?
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=1184345800363516&set=a.498321638965939
First time I have seen a Church refer to Jesus and a thing.
".. you are worshiping some thing other than Jesus" A typo eh?
Probably. Ironic that a Church should make a careless mistake.
The Atlas Network is well known as a primary driver for David
Seymour's policies regarding taking from the poor - school lunches
come after reductions in benefits and reductions in the minimum wage >>>>leading to more poor that need help with school lunches. As a comment >>>>says, they (that are taking free lunches out of schools) are >>>>worshipping money . . .
I never mentioned the Atlas Network. You cannot provide any credible >>>link that the Atlas Network is in any way connected to the School
Lunch program.
Gordon suggested that above
- it is well known that the Atlas NetworkUntrue, all lies. You have never shown any of those connections. But it is well
includes in New Zealand the NZ Taxpayers Union (and through that >>organisation the "Groundswell" organisation), The NZCPR and a range of >>related websites including The Centrist - "Dirty Tricks" had a
significant effect on developing defence mechanisms to pretend that
reality is not what people see, but there is no doubt that the Atlas >>Network is significant in New Zealand - starting with Seymour and then >>Jordan Williams graduating from one of their development courses, and
also following the same attack lines as the Atlas Network provided for >>Trump. Now I suspect that not even Atlas would claim that they are
getting what they wanted from Trump, and even Seymour will I am sure
admit to associates that he has made mistakes, but it is the largest >>coherent group of think tanks and political advisers of any party in
New Zealand, raising more money than most political parties, and using
that money for political purposes.
known in your fantasy world.
Off topic nonsense.
However you may be "Right" - there is little evidence that Atlas
dreamed up the actions that Seymour took - and there will not be -
nobody could be proud of that mess, but it was an Atlas type attempt
to replace cost with poor quality. Certainly money was behind it, and
I suspect that may well have been Seymour just applying his mantra
about making government smaller - is there any division between
Seymour and Atlas?
On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 19:17:01 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 21:13:30 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>wrote:Gordon was being ironic, it went way over your head.
On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 21:02:13 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 19:29:05 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>>wrote:
On 17 Mar 2025 03:58:45 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2025-03-17, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 13:15:42 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>>>>> wrote:No it was the Atlas organisation.
On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 12:38:38 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>>wrote:Can you explain your comment, Crash? Was the thing Christianity, the >>>>>>>> 10 Commandments, Schools, or Free Lunches?
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=1184345800363516&set=a.498321638965939
First time I have seen a Church refer to Jesus and a thing.
".. you are worshiping some thing other than Jesus" A typo eh?
Probably. Ironic that a Church should make a careless mistake.
The Atlas Network is well known as a primary driver for David >>>>>Seymour's policies regarding taking from the poor - school lunches >>>>>come after reductions in benefits and reductions in the minimum wage >>>>>leading to more poor that need help with school lunches. As a comment >>>>>says, they (that are taking free lunches out of schools) are >>>>>worshipping money . . .
I never mentioned the Atlas Network. You cannot provide any credible >>>>link that the Atlas Network is in any way connected to the School
Lunch program.
Gordon suggested that above
- it is well known that the Atlas NetworkUntrue, all lies. You have never shown any of those connections. But it is >>well
includes in New Zealand the NZ Taxpayers Union (and through that >>>organisation the "Groundswell" organisation), The NZCPR and a range of >>>related websites including The Centrist - "Dirty Tricks" had a >>>significant effect on developing defence mechanisms to pretend that >>>reality is not what people see, but there is no doubt that the Atlas >>>Network is significant in New Zealand - starting with Seymour and then >>>Jordan Williams graduating from one of their development courses, and >>>also following the same attack lines as the Atlas Network provided for >>>Trump. Now I suspect that not even Atlas would claim that they are >>>getting what they wanted from Trump, and even Seymour will I am sure >>>admit to associates that he has made mistakes, but it is the largest >>>coherent group of think tanks and political advisers of any party in
New Zealand, raising more money than most political parties, and using >>>that money for political purposes.
known in your fantasy world.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxim_Institute
Maxim Institute has received several international think tank awards
from the Atlas Economic Research Foundation, a neoliberal US think
tank.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_Network
In New Zealand, Atlas Network has partnered with the New Zealand
Taxpayers' Union.[9] ACT New Zealand leader David Seymour once worked
for the Atlas Network-affiliated Frontier Centre for Public Policy in >Canada.[32] Atlas Network chair Debbi Gibbs' father helped found the
ACT party.[32]
https://www.atlasnetwork.org/partners
States that there are 10 partners in Australia and New Zealand, but
does not name them
Off topic nonsense.
However you may be "Right" - there is little evidence that Atlas
dreamed up the actions that Seymour took - and there will not be -
nobody could be proud of that mess, but it was an Atlas type attempt
to replace cost with poor quality. Certainly money was behind it, and
I suspect that may well have been Seymour just applying his mantra
about making government smaller - is there any division between
Seymour and Atlas?
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