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    From Tony@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 22 20:06:57 2025
    XPost: nz.politics

    https://waikanaewatch.org/2025/03/23/climatists-and-facts/

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Gordon on Sun Mar 23 00:13:01 2025
    Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
    On 2025-03-22, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    https://waikanaewatch.org/2025/03/23/climatists-and-facts/

    Then we have yet another date for some climate projections

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/545687/many-nz-glaciers-will-not-survive-the-21st-century-un
    Yep, the nonsense continues. The UN is part of the disinformation about climate change. No facts have ever been provided that show that man made climate change is anything but trivial. No single or multiple predictions of climate damage due to mankind have ever been produced. Not one.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Tony on Sun Mar 23 00:15:04 2025
    Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
    On 2025-03-22, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    https://waikanaewatch.org/2025/03/23/climatists-and-facts/

    Then we have yet another date for some climate projections
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/545687/many-nz-glaciers-will-not-survive-the-21st-century-un

    Correction
    Yep, the nonsense continues. The UN is part of the disinformation about climate change. No facts have ever been provided that show that man made climate change is anything but trivial. No single or multiple predictions of disastrous climate damage
    due to mankind have ever been shown to be true. Not one. It is a scam.

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  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to Tony on Sat Mar 22 23:35:59 2025
    On 2025-03-22, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    https://waikanaewatch.org/2025/03/23/climatists-and-facts/

    Then we have yet another date for some climate projections

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/545687/many-nz-glaciers-will-not-survive-the-21st-century-un

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to Gordon on Sun Mar 23 16:04:50 2025
    On 22 Mar 2025 23:35:59 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2025-03-22, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    https://waikanaewatch.org/2025/03/23/climatists-and-facts/

    Then we have yet another date for some climate projections

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/545687/many-nz-glaciers-will-not-survive-the-21st-century-un

    and another interesting article: https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/on-the-inside/539603/nz-s-climate-policies-are-no-longer-enough-to-keep-warming-at-1-point-5-degreesc-here-s-what-needs-to-happen

    and also from that link:
    1. Global action is ahead of New Zealand

    While other countries' current policies, pledges or targets are not
    sufficient to keep temperature rise at 1.5C, many countries now have
    more ambitious targets than New Zealand.

    Australia, Japan, US, Canada, EU and Ireland all adopted full net-zero
    targets in 2021. Finland and Germany have or are considering net
    negative targets. Among countries with high biogenic methane
    emissions, several now have full net-zero targets.

    2. Scientific understanding of climate change has changed

    Climate impacts are appearing sooner and with more severity than the
    scientific community understood when the target was set in 2019.

    3. The burden shifts to future generations

    The increased risks and impacts of climate change have implications
    for inter-generational equity. Delaying action shifts costs and risks
    to future generations.

    The commission's report also explores New Zealand's reliance on
    large-scale commercial exotic afforestation to meet its climate
    targets. This is one reason why Climate Action Tracker rates New
    Zealand's response as highly insufficient and commensurate with a 4C
    world.
    _____________________________________

    and also from RNZ (The House) - click on the following url for the
    audio or a written summary: https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/545706/the-house-climate-change-adaptation-parliament-asks-the-small-questions

    From that item: "National Party MP Dan Bidosis began his speech with
    something of an affirmation.

    "I wish to start out by saying that climate change is here. It's real. Businesses know it, farmers know it, our export markets know it, our
    Pacific neighbours know it, and our communities know it.

    "It is a significant issue already, as we've heard today, and I want
    to acknowledge the anniversary of the floods caused by Cyclone
    Gabrielle just over two years ago."

    So the Greens want action last year, Labour want action now, National
    want action only after they have reduced tax on the wealthy so that we
    can't afford it, and ACT needs the racists, anti-vax, anti-science,
    and the non-believer in climate change to vote them back again - for
    which purpose the Atlas Network are providing similar guidance to
    Seymour as they are for Trump (I am sure Seymour is more reliably indoctrinated), while inside New Zealand the Taxpayers Union are
    working with TheCentrist and the NZ Initiative and NZCPR and useful
    idiots like waikanaewatch to push their Free-Dumb agendas so nobody
    will notice if they get government small enough to be drowned in a
    bathtub . . . Again from the RNZ url above:
    "One farmer present, Mark Cameron, speaking for ACT, was unhappy about references to recent disasters saying, "We can't have extreme examples
    as being the template of how we work through this. Periodically, we do
    have extreme weather events, and we can't afford, as a Parliament, to
    overly politicise them." "

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Sun Mar 23 16:08:43 2025
    On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 00:15:04 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
    On 2025-03-22, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    https://waikanaewatch.org/2025/03/23/climatists-and-facts/

    Then we have yet another date for some climate projections
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/545687/many-nz-glaciers-will-not-survive-the-21st-century-un

    Correction
    Yep, the nonsense continues. The UN is part of the disinformation about climate
    change. No facts have ever been provided that show that man made climate change
    is anything but trivial. No single or multiple predictions of disastrous >climate damage
    due to mankind have ever been shown to be true. Not one. It is a scam.

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/545309/dire-climate-report-lays-out-records-for-ocean-heat-shrinking-ice-cover

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/545283/south-island-s-west-coast-most-at-risk-of-more-extreme-atmospheric-rivers-research-suggests

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/538479/nz-s-10th-warmest-year-on-record-what-we-can-learn-from-2024-climate-data

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  • From BR@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 23 17:07:28 2025
    On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 16:04:50 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 22 Mar 2025 23:35:59 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2025-03-22, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    https://waikanaewatch.org/2025/03/23/climatists-and-facts/

    Then we have yet another date for some climate projections
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/545687/many-nz-glaciers-will-not-survive-the-21st-century-un

    and another interesting article: >https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/on-the-inside/539603/nz-s-climate-policies-are-no-longer-enough-to-keep-warming-at-1-point-5-degreesc-here-s-what-needs-to-happen

    All the climate hustlers' past predictions have failed. Why should
    they be believed now, particularly when they are coming from a
    propaganda site like RNZ?

    Bill.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Sun Mar 23 03:30:46 2025
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 00:15:04 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
    On 2025-03-22, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    https://waikanaewatch.org/2025/03/23/climatists-and-facts/

    Then we have yet another date for some climate projections
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/545687/many-nz-glaciers-will-not-survive-the-21st-century-un

    Correction
    Yep, the nonsense continues. The UN is part of the disinformation about >>climate
    change. No facts have ever been provided that show that man made climate >>change
    is anything but trivial. No single or multiple predictions of disastrous >>climate damage
    due to mankind have ever been shown to be true. Not one. It is a scam.

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/545309/dire-climate-report-lays-out-records-for-ocean-heat-shrinking-ice-cover

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/545283/south-island-s-west-coast-most-at-risk-of-more-extreme-atmospheric-rivers-research-suggests

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/538479/nz-s-10th-warmest-year-on-record-what-we-can-learn-from-2024-climate-data
    Not a single accurate prediction in any of those.
    QED.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Sun Mar 23 16:34:15 2025
    On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 03:30:46 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 00:15:04 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
    On 2025-03-22, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    https://waikanaewatch.org/2025/03/23/climatists-and-facts/

    Then we have yet another date for some climate projections
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/545687/many-nz-glaciers-will-not-survive-the-21st-century-un

    Correction
    Yep, the nonsense continues. The UN is part of the disinformation about >>>climate
    change. No facts have ever been provided that show that man made climate >>>change
    is anything but trivial. No single or multiple predictions of disastrous >>>climate damage
    due to mankind have ever been shown to be true. Not one. It is a scam.
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/545309/dire-climate-report-lays-out-records-for-ocean-heat-shrinking-ice-cover
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/545283/south-island-s-west-coast-most-at-risk-of-more-extreme-atmospheric-rivers-research-suggests
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/538479/nz-s-10th-warmest-year-on-record-what-we-can-learn-from-2024-climate-data
    Not a single accurate prediction in any of those.
    QED.

    Trends in temperatures and other aspects of weather have been accurate
    within expected variances. Clearly you do not understand scientific
    methods, Tony - we cannot predict when there will be an earthquake in
    Auckland for example, but we know there will be one at some stage . .
    .

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Sun Mar 23 04:47:05 2025
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 03:30:46 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 00:15:04 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
    On 2025-03-22, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    https://waikanaewatch.org/2025/03/23/climatists-and-facts/

    Then we have yet another date for some climate projections
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/545687/many-nz-glaciers-will-not-survive-the-21st-century-un

    Correction
    Yep, the nonsense continues. The UN is part of the disinformation about >>>>climate
    change. No facts have ever been provided that show that man made climate >>>>change
    is anything but trivial. No single or multiple predictions of disastrous >>>>climate damage
    due to mankind have ever been shown to be true. Not one. It is a scam.
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/545309/dire-climate-report-lays-out-records-for-ocean-heat-shrinking-ice-cover
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/545283/south-island-s-west-coast-most-at-risk-of-more-extreme-atmospheric-rivers-research-suggests
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/538479/nz-s-10th-warmest-year-on-record-what-we-can-learn-from-2024-climate-data
    Not a single accurate prediction in any of those.
    QED.

    Trends in temperatures and other aspects of weather have been accurate
    within expected variances. Clearly you do not understand scientific
    methods, Tony - we cannot predict when there will be an earthquake in >Auckland for example, but we know there will be one at some stage . .
    There have been no predictions of serious problems in the last 50 years concerning climate change that have come true. My degrees mean I do understand science, your lie that you have a degrees is pproof in itself.
    You have deliberately gone off topic, piss off sn try to stay in tune with your betters.

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  • From BR@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 24 05:42:36 2025
    On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 16:08:43 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 00:15:04 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
    On 2025-03-22, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    https://waikanaewatch.org/2025/03/23/climatists-and-facts/

    Then we have yet another date for some climate projections
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/545687/many-nz-glaciers-will-not-survive-the-21st-century-un

    Correction
    Yep, the nonsense continues. The UN is part of the disinformation about climate
    change. No facts have ever been provided that show that man made climate change
    is anything but trivial. No single or multiple predictions of disastrous >>climate damage
    due to mankind have ever been shown to be true. Not one. It is a scam.

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/545309/dire-climate-report-lays-out-records-for-ocean-heat-shrinking-ice-cover

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/545283/south-island-s-west-coast-most-at-risk-of-more-extreme-atmospheric-rivers-research-suggests

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/538479/nz-s-10th-warmest-year-on-record-what-we-can-learn-from-2024-climate-data

    What was that you were saying earlier about how RNZ ensures that all
    major groups having differing views are represented?

    Bill.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 24 13:05:55 2025
    On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 12:39:32 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 05:42:36 +1300, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:

    On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 16:08:43 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:

    On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 00:15:04 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
    On 2025-03-22, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    https://waikanaewatch.org/2025/03/23/climatists-and-facts/

    Then we have yet another date for some climate projections
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/545687/many-nz-glaciers-will-not-survive-the-21st-century-un

    Correction
    Yep, the nonsense continues. The UN is part of the disinformation about climate
    change. No facts have ever been provided that show that man made climate change
    is anything but trivial. No single or multiple predictions of disastrous >>>>climate damage
    due to mankind have ever been shown to be true. Not one. It is a scam.
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/545309/dire-climate-report-lays-out-records-for-ocean-heat-shrinking-ice-cover
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/545283/south-island-s-west-coast-most-at-risk-of-more-extreme-atmospheric-rivers-research-suggests
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/538479/nz-s-10th-warmest-year-on-record-what-we-can-learn-from-2024-climate-data

    What was that you were saying earlier about how RNZ ensures that all
    major groups having differing views are represented?

    Bill.
    Absolutely, Bill. Yes I agree that they do cover a wide range of
    issues and opinions as well as expert advice. Here is another item
    from this morning that you may find worth thinking about. Currently >electricity shortages are advantaging the gentailers - the incentives
    are against the interests of New Zealand. >https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/2018980141/energy-executive-says-consumers-should-underwrite-projects
    and here are some more articles from yet another group that may be
    more relevant to the original topic - truth can indeed be fun . . .
    (See also the links on the right of that page): https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/545309/dire-climate-report-lays-out-records-for-ocean-heat-shrinking-ice-cover

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to blah@blah.blah on Mon Mar 24 12:39:32 2025
    On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 05:42:36 +1300, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:

    On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 16:08:43 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 00:15:04 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
    On 2025-03-22, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    https://waikanaewatch.org/2025/03/23/climatists-and-facts/

    Then we have yet another date for some climate projections
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/545687/many-nz-glaciers-will-not-survive-the-21st-century-un

    Correction
    Yep, the nonsense continues. The UN is part of the disinformation about climate
    change. No facts have ever been provided that show that man made climate change
    is anything but trivial. No single or multiple predictions of disastrous >>>climate damage
    due to mankind have ever been shown to be true. Not one. It is a scam.
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/545309/dire-climate-report-lays-out-records-for-ocean-heat-shrinking-ice-cover
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/545283/south-island-s-west-coast-most-at-risk-of-more-extreme-atmospheric-rivers-research-suggests
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/538479/nz-s-10th-warmest-year-on-record-what-we-can-learn-from-2024-climate-data

    What was that you were saying earlier about how RNZ ensures that all
    major groups having differing views are represented?

    Bill.
    Absolutely, Bill. Yes I agree that they do cover a wide range of
    issues and opinions as well as expert advice. Here is another item
    from this morning that you may find worth thinking about. Currently
    electricity shortages are advantaging the gentailers - the incentives
    are against the interests of New Zealand. https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/2018980141/energy-executive-says-consumers-should-underwrite-projects

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Mon Mar 24 16:24:47 2025
    On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 04:47:05 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 03:30:46 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 00:15:04 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
    On 2025-03-22, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    https://waikanaewatch.org/2025/03/23/climatists-and-facts/

    Then we have yet another date for some climate projections
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/545687/many-nz-glaciers-will-not-survive-the-21st-century-un

    Correction
    Yep, the nonsense continues. The UN is part of the disinformation about >>>>>climate
    change. No facts have ever been provided that show that man made climate >>>>>change
    is anything but trivial. No single or multiple predictions of disastrous >>>>>climate damage
    due to mankind have ever been shown to be true. Not one. It is a scam. >>>> >>>>https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/545309/dire-climate-report-lays-out-records-for-ocean-heat-shrinking-ice-cover
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/545283/south-island-s-west-coast-most-at-risk-of-more-extreme-atmospheric-rivers-research-suggests
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/538479/nz-s-10th-warmest-year-on-record-what-we-can-learn-from-2024-climate-data
    Not a single accurate prediction in any of those.
    QED.

    Trends in temperatures and other aspects of weather have been accurate >>within expected variances. Clearly you do not understand scientific >>methods, Tony - we cannot predict when there will be an earthquake in >>Auckland for example, but we know there will be one at some stage . .
    There have been no predictions of serious problems in the last 50 years >concerning climate change that have come true. My degrees mean I do understand >science, your lie that you have a degrees is pproof in itself.
    You have deliberately gone off topic, piss off sn try to stay in tune with your
    betters.

    Try looking at this site - it has a number of articles that look at
    actual results and compare them with predictions: https://skepticalscience.com/2025-SkS-Weekly-News-Roundup_12.html

    The first article says : "Global sea level rose faster than expected
    in 2024, according to NASA analysis"

    So you will be pleased the prediction did not come true, but perhaps
    less pleased that the expected sea rise was lower than the actual rise
    . . .

    But perhaps that is within expected variance levels, so my comment was
    OK as well.

    Global sea levels are a serious problem in some places already . . .

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  • From BR@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 24 17:44:28 2025
    On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 13:05:55 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 12:39:32 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 05:42:36 +1300, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:

    On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 16:08:43 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>wrote:

    On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 00:15:04 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
    On 2025-03-22, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    https://waikanaewatch.org/2025/03/23/climatists-and-facts/

    Then we have yet another date for some climate projections
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/545687/many-nz-glaciers-will-not-survive-the-21st-century-un

    Correction
    Yep, the nonsense continues. The UN is part of the disinformation about climate
    change. No facts have ever been provided that show that man made climate change
    is anything but trivial. No single or multiple predictions of disastrous >>>>>climate damage
    due to mankind have ever been shown to be true. Not one. It is a scam. >>>> >>>>https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/545309/dire-climate-report-lays-out-records-for-ocean-heat-shrinking-ice-cover
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/545283/south-island-s-west-coast-most-at-risk-of-more-extreme-atmospheric-rivers-research-suggests
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/538479/nz-s-10th-warmest-year-on-record-what-we-can-learn-from-2024-climate-data

    What was that you were saying earlier about how RNZ ensures that all >>>major groups having differing views are represented?

    Bill.
    Absolutely, Bill. Yes I agree that they do cover a wide range of
    issues and opinions as well as expert advice. Here is another item
    from this morning that you may find worth thinking about. Currently >>electricity shortages are advantaging the gentailers - the incentives
    are against the interests of New Zealand. >>https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/2018980141/energy-executive-says-consumers-should-underwrite-projects
    and here are some more articles from yet another group that may be
    more relevant to the original topic - truth can indeed be fun . . .
    (See also the links on the right of that page): >https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/545309/dire-climate-report-lays-out-records-for-ocean-heat-shrinking-ice-cover

    Thank you for proving my point.

    RNZ presents only one side of the argument.

    That's what I have been trying to tell you.

    RNZ are biased. That's why they should be defunded.

    Bill.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Mon Mar 24 06:11:30 2025
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 04:47:05 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 03:30:46 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 00:15:04 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
    On 2025-03-22, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    https://waikanaewatch.org/2025/03/23/climatists-and-facts/

    Then we have yet another date for some climate projections
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/545687/many-nz-glaciers-will-not-survive-the-21st-century-un

    Correction
    Yep, the nonsense continues. The UN is part of the disinformation about >>>>>>climate
    change. No facts have ever been provided that show that man made climate >>>>>>change
    is anything but trivial. No single or multiple predictions of disastrous >>>>>>climate damage
    due to mankind have ever been shown to be true. Not one. It is a scam. >>>>> >>>>>https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/545309/dire-climate-report-lays-out-records-for-ocean-heat-shrinking-ice-cover
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/545283/south-island-s-west-coast-most-at-risk-of-more-extreme-atmospheric-rivers-research-suggests
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/538479/nz-s-10th-warmest-year-on-record-what-we-can-learn-from-2024-climate-data
    Not a single accurate prediction in any of those.
    QED.

    Trends in temperatures and other aspects of weather have been accurate >>>within expected variances. Clearly you do not understand scientific >>>methods, Tony - we cannot predict when there will be an earthquake in >>>Auckland for example, but we know there will be one at some stage . . >>There have been no predictions of serious problems in the last 50 years >>concerning climate change that have come true. My degrees mean I do >>understand
    science, your lie that you have a degrees is pproof in itself.
    You have deliberately gone off topic, piss off sn try to stay in tune with >>your
    betters.

    Try looking at this site - it has a number of articles that look at
    actual results and compare them with predictions: >https://skepticalscience.com/2025-SkS-Weekly-News-Roundup_12.html

    The first article says : "Global sea level rose faster than expected
    in 2024, according to NASA analysis"

    So you will be pleased the prediction did not come true, but perhaps
    less pleased that the expected sea rise was lower than the actual rise
    Don't be such an ass.
    . . .

    But perhaps that is within expected variance levels, so my comment was
    OK as well.

    Global sea levels are a serious problem in some places already . . .
    No they are not - prove it.
    And in general I repeat my point. In the past 50 years there have been several dire predictions concerning the so called climate crisis, not one has come to pass. Not one!

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