Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>https://petitions.parliament.nz/1beadf52-36ff-4963-bb16-08dd60c31487 >Pointless, it will have no effect.How many signatures would it need to be listened to, Tony?
On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 08:00:06 -0000 (UTC), TonyYour response is as pointless as the petition and your OP.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>https://petitions.parliament.nz/1beadf52-36ff-4963-bb16-08dd60c31487 >>Pointless, it will have no effect.How many signatures would it need to be listened to, Tony?
https://petitions.parliament.nz/1beadf52-36ff-4963-bb16-08dd60c31487
On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 20:25:34 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
wrote:
https://petitions.parliament.nz/1beadf52-36ff-4963-bb16-08dd60c31487
I find these petitions tedious because they all seem to start with
"That the House of Representatives urge the Government...." -
pointless when the Governance commands a Parliamentary majority in the
House of Representatives.
In this case the Petitioner seeks to re-instate the prior
arrangements, where the price paid per lunch (IIRC) was more than
double what is being paid currently. Significant by its absence was
how this should be funded.
An better cheaper option is to cancel school lunches and fix the
underlying problem by taking child-neglect measures against parents
for children not being adequately cared for.
On Thu, 27 Mar 2025 10:49:42 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 20:25:34 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:
https://petitions.parliament.nz/1beadf52-36ff-4963-bb16-08dd60c31487
I find these petitions tedious because they all seem to start with
"That the House of Representatives urge the Government...." -
pointless when the Governance commands a Parliamentary majority in the >>House of Representatives.
In this case the Petitioner seeks to re-instate the prior
arrangements, where the price paid per lunch (IIRC) was more than
double what is being paid currently. Significant by its absence was
how this should be funded.
An better cheaper option is to cancel school lunches and fix the
underlying problem by taking child-neglect measures against parents
for children not being adequately cared for.
Perhaps you could explain why you think they are not doing exactly
that, Crash . . .
On Thu, 27 Mar 2025 14:36:43 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 27 Mar 2025 10:49:42 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>wrote:
On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 20:25:34 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>wrote:
https://petitions.parliament.nz/1beadf52-36ff-4963-bb16-08dd60c31487
I find these petitions tedious because they all seem to start with
"That the House of Representatives urge the Government...." -
pointless when the Governance commands a Parliamentary majority in the >>>House of Representatives.
In this case the Petitioner seeks to re-instate the prior
arrangements, where the price paid per lunch (IIRC) was more than
double what is being paid currently. Significant by its absence was
how this should be funded.
An better cheaper option is to cancel school lunches and fix the >>>underlying problem by taking child-neglect measures against parents
for children not being adequately cared for.
Perhaps you could explain why you think they are not doing exactly
that, Crash . . .
I wish they were but Seymour lacks true political courage along with
Luxon and others.
I come from a long line of pupils whose primary school lunch was
usually sandwiches made from 3+day old white bread with black fillings >(occasionally honey for variety). Subsequent to this someone thought
fruit might be a good option (not my mum - that was premium food for
adults). My parents bought their first freezer after I left school.
Then hot-bread shops opened on Sundays. Every month or so I was given
a shilling to buy a pie (which allegedly contained meat but really was
a meat-based drink because of the gravy) through a set-up between the
school and the dairy across the road. The warm free milk washed it
all down nicely - not. Coca-Cola was a Christmas day treat (today a
750ml 'family-size' bottle) evenly apportioned amongst the 7 of us,
that went well with the roast chicken (also a Christmas day treat).
No I am not joking nor am I exaggerating.
On Thu, 27 Mar 2025 21:10:02 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On Thu, 27 Mar 2025 14:36:43 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:
On Thu, 27 Mar 2025 10:49:42 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>wrote:
On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 20:25:34 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>wrote:
https://petitions.parliament.nz/1beadf52-36ff-4963-bb16-08dd60c31487
I find these petitions tedious because they all seem to start with >>>>"That the House of Representatives urge the Government...." - >>>>pointless when the Governance commands a Parliamentary majority in the >>>>House of Representatives.
In this case the Petitioner seeks to re-instate the prior
arrangements, where the price paid per lunch (IIRC) was more than >>>>double what is being paid currently. Significant by its absence was >>>>how this should be funded.
An better cheaper option is to cancel school lunches and fix the >>>>underlying problem by taking child-neglect measures against parents
for children not being adequately cared for.
Perhaps you could explain why you think they are not doing exactly
that, Crash . . .
I wish they were but Seymour lacks true political courage along with
Luxon and others.
I come from a long line of pupils whose primary school lunch was
usually sandwiches made from 3+day old white bread with black fillings >>(occasionally honey for variety). Subsequent to this someone thought
fruit might be a good option (not my mum - that was premium food for >>adults). My parents bought their first freezer after I left school.
Then hot-bread shops opened on Sundays. Every month or so I was given
a shilling to buy a pie (which allegedly contained meat but really was
a meat-based drink because of the gravy) through a set-up between the >>school and the dairy across the road. The warm free milk washed it
all down nicely - not. Coca-Cola was a Christmas day treat (today a
750ml 'family-size' bottle) evenly apportioned amongst the 7 of us,
that went well with the roast chicken (also a Christmas day treat).
No I am not joking nor am I exaggerating.
Fair enough, but I am not sure whether you are saying that you now
believe, with the benefit of hindsight, that based on the lunches you
were given your parents should have had child-neglect measures taken
against them, or whether you are saying that the sort of lunch you
describe would be acceptable and an improvement on the lunches Seymour
is paying for.
On 2025-03-27, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 27 Mar 2025 21:10:02 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On Thu, 27 Mar 2025 14:36:43 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>wrote:
On Thu, 27 Mar 2025 10:49:42 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>wrote:
On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 20:25:34 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>wrote:
https://petitions.parliament.nz/1beadf52-36ff-4963-bb16-08dd60c31487 >>>>>I find these petitions tedious because they all seem to start with >>>>>"That the House of Representatives urge the Government...." - >>>>>pointless when the Governance commands a Parliamentary majority in the >>>>>House of Representatives.
In this case the Petitioner seeks to re-instate the prior >>>>>arrangements, where the price paid per lunch (IIRC) was more than >>>>>double what is being paid currently. Significant by its absence was >>>>>how this should be funded.
An better cheaper option is to cancel school lunches and fix the >>>>>underlying problem by taking child-neglect measures against parents >>>>>for children not being adequately cared for.
Perhaps you could explain why you think they are not doing exactly >>>>that, Crash . . .
I wish they were but Seymour lacks true political courage along with >>>Luxon and others.
I come from a long line of pupils whose primary school lunch was
usually sandwiches made from 3+day old white bread with black fillings >>>(occasionally honey for variety). Subsequent to this someone thought >>>fruit might be a good option (not my mum - that was premium food for >>>adults). My parents bought their first freezer after I left school.
Then hot-bread shops opened on Sundays. Every month or so I was given
a shilling to buy a pie (which allegedly contained meat but really was
a meat-based drink because of the gravy) through a set-up between the >>>school and the dairy across the road. The warm free milk washed it
all down nicely - not. Coca-Cola was a Christmas day treat (today a >>>750ml 'family-size' bottle) evenly apportioned amongst the 7 of us,
that went well with the roast chicken (also a Christmas day treat).
No I am not joking nor am I exaggerating.
That was pretty much the norm for many/most of the country after the end of >world war II. Money was too tight to mention.
Fair enough, but I am not sure whether you are saying that you now
believe, with the benefit of hindsight, that based on the lunches you
were given your parents should have had child-neglect measures taken
against them, or whether you are saying that the sort of lunch you
describe would be acceptable and an improvement on the lunches Seymour
is paying for.
One should never compare the present day situation with things as they were >in the past. They are different of times and have different values.
On Thu, 27 Mar 2025 21:10:02 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On Thu, 27 Mar 2025 14:36:43 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:
On Thu, 27 Mar 2025 10:49:42 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>wrote:
On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 20:25:34 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>wrote:
https://petitions.parliament.nz/1beadf52-36ff-4963-bb16-08dd60c31487
I find these petitions tedious because they all seem to start with >>>>"That the House of Representatives urge the Government...." - >>>>pointless when the Governance commands a Parliamentary majority in the >>>>House of Representatives.
In this case the Petitioner seeks to re-instate the prior
arrangements, where the price paid per lunch (IIRC) was more than >>>>double what is being paid currently. Significant by its absence was >>>>how this should be funded.
An better cheaper option is to cancel school lunches and fix the >>>>underlying problem by taking child-neglect measures against parents
for children not being adequately cared for.
Perhaps you could explain why you think they are not doing exactly
that, Crash . . .
I wish they were but Seymour lacks true political courage along with
Luxon and others.
I come from a long line of pupils whose primary school lunch was
usually sandwiches made from 3+day old white bread with black fillings >>(occasionally honey for variety). Subsequent to this someone thought
fruit might be a good option (not my mum - that was premium food for >>adults). My parents bought their first freezer after I left school.
Then hot-bread shops opened on Sundays. Every month or so I was given
a shilling to buy a pie (which allegedly contained meat but really was
a meat-based drink because of the gravy) through a set-up between the >>school and the dairy across the road. The warm free milk washed it
all down nicely - not. Coca-Cola was a Christmas day treat (today a
750ml 'family-size' bottle) evenly apportioned amongst the 7 of us,
that went well with the roast chicken (also a Christmas day treat).
No I am not joking nor am I exaggerating.
Fair enough, but I am not sure whether you are saying that you now
believe, with the benefit of hindsight, that based on the lunches you
were given your parents should have had child-neglect measures taken
against them,
or whether you are saying that the sort of lunch you
describe would be acceptable and an improvement on the lunches Seymour
is paying for.
On 27 Mar 2025 22:19:32 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2025-03-27, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 27 Mar 2025 21:10:02 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On Thu, 27 Mar 2025 14:36:43 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>wrote:
On Thu, 27 Mar 2025 10:49:42 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>>wrote:
On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 20:25:34 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>>wrote:
https://petitions.parliament.nz/1beadf52-36ff-4963-bb16-08dd60c31487 >>>>>>I find these petitions tedious because they all seem to start with >>>>>>"That the House of Representatives urge the Government...." - >>>>>>pointless when the Governance commands a Parliamentary majority in the >>>>>>House of Representatives.
In this case the Petitioner seeks to re-instate the prior >>>>>>arrangements, where the price paid per lunch (IIRC) was more than >>>>>>double what is being paid currently. Significant by its absence was >>>>>>how this should be funded.
An better cheaper option is to cancel school lunches and fix the >>>>>>underlying problem by taking child-neglect measures against parents >>>>>>for children not being adequately cared for.
Perhaps you could explain why you think they are not doing exactly >>>>>that, Crash . . .
I wish they were but Seymour lacks true political courage along with >>>>Luxon and others.
I come from a long line of pupils whose primary school lunch was >>>>usually sandwiches made from 3+day old white bread with black fillings >>>>(occasionally honey for variety). Subsequent to this someone thought >>>>fruit might be a good option (not my mum - that was premium food for >>>>adults). My parents bought their first freezer after I left school. >>>>Then hot-bread shops opened on Sundays. Every month or so I was given >>>>a shilling to buy a pie (which allegedly contained meat but really was >>>>a meat-based drink because of the gravy) through a set-up between the >>>>school and the dairy across the road. The warm free milk washed it
all down nicely - not. Coca-Cola was a Christmas day treat (today a >>>>750ml 'family-size' bottle) evenly apportioned amongst the 7 of us, >>>>that went well with the roast chicken (also a Christmas day treat).
No I am not joking nor am I exaggerating.
That was pretty much the norm for many/most of the country after the end of >>world war II. Money was too tight to mention.
Fair enough, but I am not sure whether you are saying that you now
believe, with the benefit of hindsight, that based on the lunches you
were given your parents should have had child-neglect measures taken
against them, or whether you are saying that the sort of lunch you
describe would be acceptable and an improvement on the lunches Seymour
is paying for.
One should never compare the present day situation with things as they were >>in the past. They are different of times and have different values.
Why not?
or my mates went without food. I binned my lunch one day and suffered accordingly such that I never did that again. Perfectly valid to
compare with current times when food given for a purpose is refused.
On Thu, 27 Mar 2025 21:12:01 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>I have not asserted anything. I am merely trying to understand what
wrote:
On Thu, 27 Mar 2025 21:10:02 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>wrote:
On Thu, 27 Mar 2025 14:36:43 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>wrote:
On Thu, 27 Mar 2025 10:49:42 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>wrote:
On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 20:25:34 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>wrote:
I find these petitions tedious because they all seem to start with >>>>>"That the House of Representatives urge the Government...." - >>>>>pointless when the Governance commands a Parliamentary majority in the >>>>>House of Representatives.https://petitions.parliament.nz/1beadf52-36ff-4963-bb16-08dd60c31487 >>>>>
In this case the Petitioner seeks to re-instate the prior >>>>>arrangements, where the price paid per lunch (IIRC) was more than >>>>>double what is being paid currently. Significant by its absence was >>>>>how this should be funded.
An better cheaper option is to cancel school lunches and fix the >>>>>underlying problem by taking child-neglect measures against parents >>>>>for children not being adequately cared for.
Perhaps you could explain why you think they are not doing exactly >>>>that, Crash . . .
I wish they were but Seymour lacks true political courage along with >>>Luxon and others.
I come from a long line of pupils whose primary school lunch was
usually sandwiches made from 3+day old white bread with black fillings >>>(occasionally honey for variety). Subsequent to this someone thought >>>fruit might be a good option (not my mum - that was premium food for >>>adults). My parents bought their first freezer after I left school.
Then hot-bread shops opened on Sundays. Every month or so I was given
a shilling to buy a pie (which allegedly contained meat but really was
a meat-based drink because of the gravy) through a set-up between the >>>school and the dairy across the road. The warm free milk washed it
all down nicely - not. Coca-Cola was a Christmas day treat (today a >>>750ml 'family-size' bottle) evenly apportioned amongst the 7 of us,
that went well with the roast chicken (also a Christmas day treat).
No I am not joking nor am I exaggerating.
Fair enough, but I am not sure whether you are saying that you now
believe, with the benefit of hindsight, that based on the lunches you
were given your parents should have had child-neglect measures taken >>against them,
What a ridiculous assertion. What I got was what everyone got.
or whether you are saying that the sort of lunch you
describe would be acceptable and an improvement on the lunches Seymour
is paying for.
What I am saying is that it would be an acceptable lunch for those who
find lunches given to them to be inedible. Whether said lunches are >substandard or not should a contractual or food safety issue with the >supplier.
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