• Private Money In Healthcare

    From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 16 07:37:46 2025
    So the Government is making noises about inviting more private investment
    into trying to solve the chronic problems with the public healthcare
    system.

    Nobody wants to become like the US system, where private companies (particularly health insurers) call the shots. If you don’t believe how
    bad it is, just look at the massive wave of public sympathy for the guy
    who murdered that health insurer CEO.

    And here’s another instance: look at what happened when the COVID-19
    pandemic hit. In the US, it led to massive layoffs of healthcare
    personnel. How could that be? you may well ask: surely in a public health emergency, healthcare workers would be needed more than ever?

    Ah, but at the time there was a lucrative market going in these financial instruments called “health bonds”. They were basically making money off people going in for elective surgeries, by investing in the surgical
    facilities to provide those surgeries.

    But when the pandemic hit, suddenly most of those elective surgeries were cancelled in favour of repurposing health facilities for emergency
    response. And so the health-bond market collapsed, and so did the
    companies dependent on that money. And so the healthcare staff they were employing lost their jobs.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to ldo@nz.invalid on Wed Apr 16 22:37:15 2025
    On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 07:37:46 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
    <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    So the Government is making noises about inviting more private investment >into trying to solve the chronic problems with the public healthcare
    system.

    Nobody wants to become like the US system, where private companies >(particularly health insurers) call the shots. If you dont believe how
    bad it is, just look at the massive wave of public sympathy for the guy
    who murdered that health insurer CEO.

    And heres another instance: look at what happened when the COVID-19
    pandemic hit. In the US, it led to massive layoffs of healthcare
    personnel. How could that be? you may well ask: surely in a public health >emergency, healthcare workers would be needed more than ever?

    Ah, but at the time there was a lucrative market going in these financial >instruments called health bonds. They were basically making money off >people going in for elective surgeries, by investing in the surgical >facilities to provide those surgeries.

    But when the pandemic hit, suddenly most of those elective surgeries were >cancelled in favour of repurposing health facilities for emergency
    response. And so the health-bond market collapsed, and so did the
    companies dependent on that money. And so the healthcare staff they were >employing lost their jobs.

    That is exactly the sort of race to the bottom that ActNZ1stNat want -
    the people at the top of those privatised organisations make huge
    money that can be encouraged to be donated to the Atlas Network . . .

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Wed Apr 16 19:43:48 2025
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 07:37:46 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro ><ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    So the Government is making noises about inviting more private investment >>into trying to solve the chronic problems with the public healthcare >>system.

    Nobody wants to become like the US system, where private companies >>(particularly health insurers) call the shots. If you dont believe how
    bad it is, just look at the massive wave of public sympathy for the guy
    who murdered that health insurer CEO.

    And heres another instance: look at what happened when the COVID-19 >>pandemic hit. In the US, it led to massive layoffs of healthcare
    personnel. How could that be? you may well ask: surely in a public health >>emergency, healthcare workers would be needed more than ever?

    Ah, but at the time there was a lucrative market going in these financial >>instruments called health bonds. They were basically making money off >>people going in for elective surgeries, by investing in the surgical >>facilities to provide those surgeries.

    But when the pandemic hit, suddenly most of those elective surgeries were >>cancelled in favour of repurposing health facilities for emergency >>response. And so the health-bond market collapsed, and so did the
    companies dependent on that money. And so the healthcare staff they were >>employing lost their jobs.

    That is exactly the sort of race to the bottom that ActNZ1stNat want -
    the people at the top of those privatised organisations make huge
    money that can be encouraged to be donated to the Atlas Network . . . Ruibbish, polical rhetoric and no facts.

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  • From Crash@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 17 08:57:23 2025
    On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 22:37:15 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 07:37:46 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro ><ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    So the Government is making noises about inviting more private investment >>into trying to solve the chronic problems with the public healthcare >>system.

    Nobody wants to become like the US system, where private companies >>(particularly health insurers) call the shots. If you dont believe how
    bad it is, just look at the massive wave of public sympathy for the guy
    who murdered that health insurer CEO.

    And heres another instance: look at what happened when the COVID-19 >>pandemic hit. In the US, it led to massive layoffs of healthcare
    personnel. How could that be? you may well ask: surely in a public health >>emergency, healthcare workers would be needed more than ever?

    Ah, but at the time there was a lucrative market going in these financial >>instruments called health bonds. They were basically making money off >>people going in for elective surgeries, by investing in the surgical >>facilities to provide those surgeries.

    But when the pandemic hit, suddenly most of those elective surgeries were >>cancelled in favour of repurposing health facilities for emergency >>response. And so the health-bond market collapsed, and so did the
    companies dependent on that money. And so the healthcare staff they were >>employing lost their jobs.

    That is exactly the sort of race to the bottom that ActNZ1stNat want -
    the people at the top of those privatised organisations make huge
    money that can be encouraged to be donated to the Atlas Network . . .

    Factless, ideological rhetoric.

    The new Rich80105 is more intent on conspiracy theory conjecture than
    political dialogue.


    --
    Crash McBash

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to ldo@nz.invalid on Thu Apr 17 10:01:12 2025
    On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 07:37:46 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
    <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    So the Government is making noises about inviting more private investment >into trying to solve the chronic problems with the public healthcare
    system.

    Nobody wants to become like the US system, where private companies >(particularly health insurers) call the shots. If you dont believe how
    bad it is, just look at the massive wave of public sympathy for the guy
    who murdered that health insurer CEO.

    And heres another instance: look at what happened when the COVID-19
    pandemic hit. In the US, it led to massive layoffs of healthcare
    personnel. How could that be? you may well ask: surely in a public health >emergency, healthcare workers would be needed more than ever?

    Ah, but at the time there was a lucrative market going in these financial >instruments called health bonds. They were basically making money off >people going in for elective surgeries, by investing in the surgical >facilities to provide those surgeries.

    But when the pandemic hit, suddenly most of those elective surgeries were >cancelled in favour of repurposing health facilities for emergency
    response. And so the health-bond market collapsed, and so did the
    companies dependent on that money. And so the healthcare staff they were >employing lost their jobs.

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  • From It's A Me@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 17 12:08:20 2025
    On 2025-04-16 22:01:12 +0000, Rich80105 said:
    On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 07:37:46 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    So the Government is making noises about inviting more private investment
    into trying to solve the chronic problems with the public healthcare
    system.

    Nobody wants to become like the US system, where private companies
    (particularly health insurers) call the shots. If you dont believe how
    bad it is, just look at the massive wave of public sympathy for the guy
    who murdered that health insurer CEO.

    And heres another instance: look at what happened when the COVID-19
    pandemic hit. In the US, it led to massive layoffs of healthcare
    personnel. How could that be? you may well ask: surely in a public health
    emergency, healthcare workers would be needed more than ever?

    Ah, but at the time there was a lucrative market going in these financial instruments called health bonds. They were basically making money off people going in for elective surgeries, by investing in the surgical facilities to provide those surgeries.

    "This surgery was sponsored by Microsoft" tattooed on your stomach
    after an appendix removal. ;-)




    But when the pandemic hit, suddenly most of those elective surgeries were cancelled in favour of repurposing health facilities for emergency
    response. And so the health-bond market collapsed, and so did the
    companies dependent on that money. And so the healthcare staff they were employing lost their jobs.

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