https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360658584/we-are-ready-go-labour-talks-potential-snap-election
So what are the Labour Party's proposals? After all they are saying there is >going to be one?
Okay they seem to have some.
https://www.labour.org.nz/our-priorities
Now the next question is do we trust them to not stray from this path? Any >bets?
https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360658584/we-are-ready-go-labour-talks-potential-snap-election
So what are the Labour Party's proposals? After all they are saying there is >going to be one?
Okay they seem to have some.
https://www.labour.org.nz/our-priorities
Now the next question is do we trust them to not stray from this path?
Any
bets?
On 17 Apr 2025 04:54:48 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360658584/we-are-ready-go-labour-talks-potential-snap-electionWho cares - its not their call.
So what are the Labour Party's proposals? After all they are saying there is >> going to be one?
Okay they seem to have some.
https://www.labour.org.nz/our-priorities
Now the next question is do we trust them to not stray from this path?
No.
Any bets?
My bet? There is no reason for a snap election. National get to make
the call and they are in no shape whatsoever to do so. The coalition Government is working out just fine so far and National would not
benefit from a snap election. Its all bullshit thinking.
"working out just fine" ... they've done almost nothing, except waste
piles of tax-payer money and make a massive mess of nearly everything. Although, to be fair, that is always the same no matter which bunch of
idiots get voted into government. :-(
On 2025-04-17 08:46:46 +0000, Crash said:
On 17 Apr 2025 04:54:48 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360658584/we-are-ready-go-labour-talks-potential-snap-electionWho cares - its not their call.
So what are the Labour Party's proposals? After all they are saying there is
going to be one?
Okay they seem to have some.
https://www.labour.org.nz/our-priorities
Now the next question is do we trust them to not stray from this path?
No.
Any bets?
My bet? There is no reason for a snap election. National get to make
the call and they are in no shape whatsoever to do so. The coalition
Government is working out just fine so far and National would not
benefit from a snap election. Its all bullshit thinking.
"working out just fine" ... they've done almost nothing,
except waste
piles of tax-payer money and make a massive mess of nearly everything.
Although, to be fair, that is always the same no matter which bunch of
idiots get voted into government. :-(
On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 11:44:54 +1200, It's A Me <its-a-me@mario.com>
wrote:
On 2025-04-17 08:46:46 +0000, Crash said:
On 17 Apr 2025 04:54:48 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360658584/we-are-ready-go-labour-talks-potential-snap-electionWho cares - its not their call.
So what are the Labour Party's proposals? After all they are saying there is
going to be one?
Okay they seem to have some.
https://www.labour.org.nz/our-priorities
Now the next question is do we trust them to not stray from this path?
No.
Any bets?
My bet? There is no reason for a snap election. National get to make
the call and they are in no shape whatsoever to do so. The coalition
Government is working out just fine so far and National would not
benefit from a snap election. Its all bullshit thinking.
"working out just fine" ... they've done almost nothing,
They dismantled co-governance - the first time in my recollection that >National have dismantled anything. There are also quite a few
relatively minor changes they have made.
except waste
piles of tax-payer money and make a massive mess of nearly everything.
Examples?
Although, to be fair, that is always the same no matter which bunch of >>idiots get voted into government. :-(
With coalitions we get negotiated compromise.
At least this government is underscored by coalition agreements that
reflect some of the policies of each of the parties. They have only
done some of the things they said they would do. That is also a bold >initiative after 2 Labour governments.
On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 13:47:33 +1200, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>I read that twice and only to ensure that I had not missed something - i didn't miss anything - every word of your post is a lie.
wrote:
On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 11:44:54 +1200, It's A Me <its-a-me@mario.com>
wrote:
On 2025-04-17 08:46:46 +0000, Crash said:
On 17 Apr 2025 04:54:48 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
Who cares - its not their call.https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360658584/we-are-ready-go-labour-talks-potential-snap-election
So what are the Labour Party's proposals? After all they are saying there >>>>>is
going to be one?
Okay they seem to have some.No.
https://www.labour.org.nz/our-priorities
Now the next question is do we trust them to not stray from this path? >>>>
Any bets?
My bet? There is no reason for a snap election. National get to make >>>> the call and they are in no shape whatsoever to do so. The coalition
Government is working out just fine so far and National would not
benefit from a snap election. Its all bullshit thinking.
"working out just fine" ... they've done almost nothing,
They dismantled co-governance - the first time in my recollection that >>National have dismantled anything. There are also quite a few
relatively minor changes they have made.
Co-governance had been announced but not implemented - they are now >discovering that they have no policies to cope with the increases in
rates that have already turned a lot of people away from supporting
this government, and that will get worse as the reality becomes clear
that some local authorities are already at borrowing limits. the
increases in rates is coming through as increase financial strain that
is rightly blamed on the government. They supported the dismantling of >tobacco policies to repay political debts by all three government
parties to Tobacco companies - that is already making health problems
worse by significantly slowing the trend of lower smoking rates
overall. Crime is rising and we have fewer police to cope; while their >nastiness to Opposition politicians is leading to greater security
costs for MPs. Poverty is increasing again, and starting to have an
impact on company profits. Their climate denial is facing increasing
concern as whole regions suffer from "once every 200 years" weather
impacts - every year! But there are some New Zealanders that are
happy - landlords, who are able to put up rents (subsidied for a lot
of tenants through accomodation allowances) and shareholders in the >electricity generation companies, how are paying out about 90% of
income as dividends . . . Most people are worse off - why would they
want to re-elect a clearly disorganised and untrustworthy bunch who
had left them financially worse off, with the prospect of their
children being even worse off after them . . .
except waste
piles of tax-payer money and make a massive mess of nearly everything.
Examples?
Although, to be fair, that is always the same no matter which bunch of >>>idiots get voted into government. :-(
With coalitions we get negotiated compromise.
At least this government is underscored by coalition agreements that >>reflect some of the policies of each of the parties. They have only
done some of the things they said they would do. That is also a bold >>initiative after 2 Labour governments.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 13:47:33 +1200, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>wrote:I read that twice and only to ensure that I had not missed something - i didn't
On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 11:44:54 +1200, It's A Me <its-a-me@mario.com>
wrote:
On 2025-04-17 08:46:46 +0000, Crash said:
On 17 Apr 2025 04:54:48 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
Who cares - its not their call.https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360658584/we-are-ready-go-labour-talks-potential-snap-election
So what are the Labour Party's proposals? After all they are saying there
is
going to be one?
Okay they seem to have some.No.
https://www.labour.org.nz/our-priorities
Now the next question is do we trust them to not stray from this path? >>>>>
Any bets?
My bet? There is no reason for a snap election. National get to make >>>>> the call and they are in no shape whatsoever to do so. The coalition >>>>> Government is working out just fine so far and National would not
benefit from a snap election. Its all bullshit thinking.
"working out just fine" ... they've done almost nothing,
They dismantled co-governance - the first time in my recollection that >>>National have dismantled anything. There are also quite a few
relatively minor changes they have made.
Co-governance had been announced but not implemented - they are now >>discovering that they have no policies to cope with the increases in
rates that have already turned a lot of people away from supporting
this government, and that will get worse as the reality becomes clear
that some local authorities are already at borrowing limits. the
increases in rates is coming through as increase financial strain that
is rightly blamed on the government. They supported the dismantling of >>tobacco policies to repay political debts by all three government
parties to Tobacco companies - that is already making health problems
worse by significantly slowing the trend of lower smoking rates
overall. Crime is rising and we have fewer police to cope; while their >>nastiness to Opposition politicians is leading to greater security
costs for MPs. Poverty is increasing again, and starting to have an
impact on company profits. Their climate denial is facing increasing >>concern as whole regions suffer from "once every 200 years" weather
impacts - every year! But there are some New Zealanders that are
happy - landlords, who are able to put up rents (subsidied for a lot
of tenants through accomodation allowances) and shareholders in the >>electricity generation companies, how are paying out about 90% of
income as dividends . . . Most people are worse off - why would they
want to re-elect a clearly disorganised and untrustworthy bunch who
had left them financially worse off, with the prospect of their
children being even worse off after them . . .
miss anything - every word of your post is a lie.
except waste
piles of tax-payer money and make a massive mess of nearly everything.
Examples?
Although, to be fair, that is always the same no matter which bunch of >>>>idiots get voted into government. :-(
With coalitions we get negotiated compromise.
At least this government is underscored by coalition agreements that >>>reflect some of the policies of each of the parties. They have only
done some of the things they said they would do. That is also a bold >>>initiative after 2 Labour governments.
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 03:14:36 -0000 (UTC), TonyThere was a time when he dabbled in real debate - he gave up when he realised he was no good at it - he prefers lies and abuse.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 13:47:33 +1200, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>wrote:I read that twice and only to ensure that I had not missed something - i >>didn't
On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 11:44:54 +1200, It's A Me <its-a-me@mario.com> >>>>wrote:
On 2025-04-17 08:46:46 +0000, Crash said:
On 17 Apr 2025 04:54:48 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
Who cares - its not their call.https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360658584/we-are-ready-go-labour-talks-potential-snap-election
So what are the Labour Party's proposals? After all they are saying >>>>>>>there
is
going to be one?
Okay they seem to have some.No.
https://www.labour.org.nz/our-priorities
Now the next question is do we trust them to not stray from this path? >>>>>>
Any bets?
My bet? There is no reason for a snap election. National get to make >>>>>> the call and they are in no shape whatsoever to do so. The coalition >>>>>> Government is working out just fine so far and National would not
benefit from a snap election. Its all bullshit thinking.
"working out just fine" ... they've done almost nothing,
They dismantled co-governance - the first time in my recollection that >>>>National have dismantled anything. There are also quite a few >>>>relatively minor changes they have made.
Co-governance had been announced but not implemented - they are now >>>discovering that they have no policies to cope with the increases in >>>rates that have already turned a lot of people away from supporting
this government, and that will get worse as the reality becomes clear >>>that some local authorities are already at borrowing limits. the >>>increases in rates is coming through as increase financial strain that
is rightly blamed on the government. They supported the dismantling of >>>tobacco policies to repay political debts by all three government
parties to Tobacco companies - that is already making health problems >>>worse by significantly slowing the trend of lower smoking rates
overall. Crime is rising and we have fewer police to cope; while their >>>nastiness to Opposition politicians is leading to greater security
costs for MPs. Poverty is increasing again, and starting to have an >>>impact on company profits. Their climate denial is facing increasing >>>concern as whole regions suffer from "once every 200 years" weather >>>impacts - every year! But there are some New Zealanders that are
happy - landlords, who are able to put up rents (subsidied for a lot
of tenants through accomodation allowances) and shareholders in the >>>electricity generation companies, how are paying out about 90% of
income as dividends . . . Most people are worse off - why would they >>>want to re-elect a clearly disorganised and untrustworthy bunch who
had left them financially worse off, with the prospect of their
children being even worse off after them . . .
miss anything - every word of your post is a lie.
That sums it up nicely Tony. There is no point in engaging with Rich
when he posts twaddle like this because no matter how much is
countered with factual rebuttal, that rebuttal will be ignored because
it does not suit his political ideology.
except wasteExamples?
piles of tax-payer money and make a massive mess of nearly everything. >>>>
Although, to be fair, that is always the same no matter which bunch of >>>>>idiots get voted into government. :-(
With coalitions we get negotiated compromise.
At least this government is underscored by coalition agreements that >>>>reflect some of the policies of each of the parties. They have only >>>>done some of the things they said they would do. That is also a bold >>>>initiative after 2 Labour governments.
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