• Interesting commentary

    From Crash@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 22 10:09:59 2025
    https://lindsaymitchell.blogspot.com/2025/04/maori-must-take-control.html

    Now I do have some qualms about the accuracy of the author's claims,
    the first being that children are not born on a benefit - but they may
    well be born to parents on a benefit. The second that 'Maori must
    take control'. The implication being the child needs to ditch the
    lifestyle they were born to, to get ahead, but no mention of how they
    could shed parent-dependency to do this.

    Any analysis that reports on a racial cohort will very likely be
    swamped by commentary from those with a race-based ideology. For
    example the statement that 'Maori must take control' can result in a
    call for separatism that favours Maori to enable them to 'take
    control'. It can also result in non-Maori blaming Maori for a problem
    of their own making. Neither is helpful.

    But I get the overall picture - benefit dependency is bad for those
    born children born to benefit-dependent parents.


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    Crash McBash

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  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to Crash on Mon Apr 21 23:05:39 2025
    On 2025-04-21, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
    https://lindsaymitchell.blogspot.com/2025/04/maori-must-take-control.html

    Now I do have some qualms about the accuracy of the author's claims,
    the first being that children are not born on a benefit - but they may
    well be born to parents on a benefit. The second that 'Maori must
    take control'. The implication being the child needs to ditch the
    lifestyle they were born to, to get ahead, but no mention of how they
    could shed parent-dependency to do this.

    Any analysis that reports on a racial cohort will very likely be
    swamped by commentary from those with a race-based ideology. For
    example the statement that 'Maori must take control' can result in a
    call for separatism that favours Maori to enable them to 'take
    control'. It can also result in non-Maori blaming Maori for a problem
    of their own making. Neither is helpful.

    But I get the overall picture - benefit dependency is bad for those
    born children born to benefit-dependent parents.


    What is needed is for Maori to own, not "take control" the issue, in much the same way that
    Maori are over reprsentive in prisons, and then start doing what is needed
    to fix the issuse but internally, within the Maori and wthin society as a whole.

    Society needs to understand the "other half" through civil discussion and understand the breaking the cycle of dependence is a worthwhile task.

    While one is called a rasist coloniser at the drop of a hat it is difficult
    to move forward.

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  • From Crash@21:1/5 to Gordon on Tue Apr 22 14:04:05 2025
    On 21 Apr 2025 23:05:39 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2025-04-21, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
    https://lindsaymitchell.blogspot.com/2025/04/maori-must-take-control.html

    Now I do have some qualms about the accuracy of the author's claims,
    the first being that children are not born on a benefit - but they may
    well be born to parents on a benefit. The second that 'Maori must
    take control'. The implication being the child needs to ditch the
    lifestyle they were born to, to get ahead, but no mention of how they
    could shed parent-dependency to do this.

    Any analysis that reports on a racial cohort will very likely be
    swamped by commentary from those with a race-based ideology. For
    example the statement that 'Maori must take control' can result in a
    call for separatism that favours Maori to enable them to 'take
    control'. It can also result in non-Maori blaming Maori for a problem
    of their own making. Neither is helpful.

    But I get the overall picture - benefit dependency is bad for those
    born children born to benefit-dependent parents.


    What is needed is for Maori to own, not "take control" the issue, in much the same way that
    Maori are over reprsentive in prisons, and then start doing what is needed
    to fix the issuse but internally, within the Maori and wthin society as a >whole.

    I agree, but with factions such as the current Maori Party, they need
    non-Maori to fund remedial actions on the basis that colonisation is
    to blame for all their ills.

    There are good Maori people out there that could at least start this
    process, such as Sir Pita Sharples (Maori party co-founder), Dover
    Samuels - but these people are not heard from today.

    Society needs to understand the "other half" through civil discussion and >understand the breaking the cycle of dependence is a worthwhile task.

    While one is called a rasist coloniser at the drop of a hat it is difficult >to move forward.

    Take note Maori Party.


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    Crash McBash

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