The topic is about Green power becoming to great a percentage of the supply.
The power collaspe in Portugal, Spain and part of France is showing the
world what can happen if the netork does not have the interia to balance change in load, or to give the operators enough time to correct the situation.
The power generation was 60% by green power (wind and solar). Experts were warning that the network was likely to go down as there was not enough stability in the system. They have been proved right.
For NZ we have 86.3% of the capacity using spinning generators and 13.7% by non rotating generators. Figures above are the installed capacity not necessarily the generated output.
The topic is about Green power becoming to great a percentage of the supply.I understand that in some communities the vast majority of generation
The power collaspe in Portugal, Spain and part of France is showing theIt is not clear what the problem was with the interior? Inertia?
world what can happen if the netork does not have the interia to balance >change in load, or to give the operators enough time to correct the >situation.
The power generation was 60% by green power (wind and solar). Experts were >warning that the network was likely to go down as there was not enough >stability in the system. They have been proved right.
For NZ we have 86.3% of the capacity using spinning generators and 13.7% by >non rotating generators. Figures above are the installed capacity not >necessarily the generated output.
On 2025-04-30 00:37:30 +0000, Gordon said:Hydro is probably the largest source of electricity generation in New
The topic is about Green power becoming to great a percentage of the supply. >>
The power collaspe in Portugal, Spain and part of France is showing the
world what can happen if the netork does not have the interia to balance
change in load, or to give the operators enough time to correct the
situation.
The power generation was 60% by green power (wind and solar). Experts were >> warning that the network was likely to go down as there was not enough
stability in the system. They have been proved right.
For NZ we have 86.3% of the capacity using spinning generators and 13.7% by >> non rotating generators. Figures above are the installed capacity not
necessarily the generated output.
Relying solely on any form of weather-related power generation is
simply ridiculous.
None of these so called "green energy" options are actually good forHow is Hydro generation bad for the planet? And Wind turbines?
the planet anyway. They all have big environmental problems.
On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 14:08:25 +1200, It's A Me <its-a-me@mario.com>
wrote:
On 2025-04-30 00:37:30 +0000, Gordon said:
The topic is about Green power becoming to great a percentage of the supply.
The power collaspe in Portugal, Spain and part of France is showing the
world what can happen if the netork does not have the interia to balance >>> change in load, or to give the operators enough time to correct the
situation.
The power generation was 60% by green power (wind and solar). Experts were >>> warning that the network was likely to go down as there was not enough
stability in the system. They have been proved right.
For NZ we have 86.3% of the capacity using spinning generators and
13.7% by non rotating generators. Figures above are the installed
capacity not
necessarily the generated output.
Relying solely on any form of weather-related power generation is
simply ridiculous.
Hydro is probably the largest source of electricity generation in New
Zealand - we know that there are problems when there are extended
periods with low rainfall, but how is relying on hydro generation for
part of our overall electricity needs ridiculous, It's A Me?
None of these so called "green energy" options are actually good for
the planet anyway. They all have big environmental problems.
How is Hydro generation bad for the planet?
And Wind turbines?
On 2025-04-30 04:21:44 +0000, Rich80105 said:
On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 14:08:25 +1200, It's A Me <its-a-me@mario.com>
wrote:
On 2025-04-30 00:37:30 +0000, Gordon said:
The topic is about Green power becoming to great a percentage of the >>>>supply.
The power collaspe in Portugal, Spain and part of France is showing the >>>> world what can happen if the netork does not have the interia to balance >>>> change in load, or to give the operators enough time to correct the
situation.
The power generation was 60% by green power (wind and solar). Experts were >>>> warning that the network was likely to go down as there was not enough >>>> stability in the system. They have been proved right.
For NZ we have 86.3% of the capacity using spinning generators and
13.7% by non rotating generators. Figures above are the installed
capacity not
necessarily the generated output.
Relying solely on any form of weather-related power generation is
simply ridiculous.
Hydro is probably the largest source of electricity generation in New
Zealand - we know that there are problems when there are extended
periods with low rainfall, but how is relying on hydro generation for
part of our overall electricity needs ridiculous, It's A Me?
As I said ... relying *SOLELY* on any form of weather-related power >generation is ridiculous.
None of these so called "green energy" options are actually good for
the planet anyway. They all have big environmental problems.
How is Hydro generation bad for the planet?
Depends on how the water obtained, gets used, and what happens to it >afterwards. For example, flooding a large area of land for a hydro dam
is obvioulsy bad for that environment.
And they kill birds.And Wind turbines?
Not only do they look hideous, but building them it remote areas
usually destroys that environment, plus building the blades and
disposing of them is highly polluting.
It's A Me <its-a-me@mario.com> wrote:
On 2025-04-30 04:21:44 +0000, Rich80105 said:
On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 14:08:25 +1200, It's A Me <its-a-me@mario.com>
wrote:
On 2025-04-30 00:37:30 +0000, Gordon said:
The topic is about Green power becoming to great a percentage of the >>>>> supply.
The power collaspe in Portugal, Spain and part of France is showing the >>>>> world what can happen if the netork does not have the interia to
balance change in load, or to give the operators enough time to correct >>>>> the situation.
The power generation was 60% by green power (wind and solar). Experts >>>>> were warning that the network was likely to go down as there was not >>>>> enough stability in the system. They have been proved right.
For NZ we have 86.3% of the capacity using spinning generators and
13.7% by non rotating generators. Figures above are the installed
capacity not necessarily the generated output.
Relying solely on any form of weather-related power generation is
simply ridiculous.
Hydro is probably the largest source of electricity generation in New
Zealand - we know that there are problems when there are extended
periods with low rainfall, but how is relying on hydro generation for
part of our overall electricity needs ridiculous, It's A Me?
As I said ... relying *SOLELY* on any form of weather-related power
generation is ridiculous.
None of these so called "green energy" options are actually good for
the planet anyway. They all have big environmental problems.
How is Hydro generation bad for the planet?
Depends on how the water obtained, gets used, and what happens to it
afterwards. For example, flooding a large area of land for a hydro dam
is obvioulsy bad for that environment.
And Wind turbines?
Not only do they look hideous, but building them it remote areas
usually destroys that environment, plus building the blades and
disposing of them is highly polluting.
And they kill birds.
On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 14:08:25 +1200, It's A Me <its-a-me@mario.com>
wrote:
On 2025-04-30 00:37:30 +0000, Gordon said:Hydro is probably the largest source of electricity generation in New
The topic is about Green power becoming to great a percentage of the supply.
The power collaspe in Portugal, Spain and part of France is showing the
world what can happen if the netork does not have the interia to balance >>> change in load, or to give the operators enough time to correct the
situation.
The power generation was 60% by green power (wind and solar). Experts were >>> warning that the network was likely to go down as there was not enough
stability in the system. They have been proved right.
For NZ we have 86.3% of the capacity using spinning generators and 13.7% by >>> non rotating generators. Figures above are the installed capacity not
necessarily the generated output.
Relying solely on any form of weather-related power generation is
simply ridiculous.
Zealand - we know that there are problems when there are extended
periods with low rainfall, but how is relying on hydro generation for
part of our overall electricity needs ridiculous, It's A Me?
How is Hydro generation bad for the planet? And Wind turbines?
None of these so called "green energy" options are actually good for
the planet anyway. They all have big environmental problems.
The only thing that matters in all of this is the cheapest and most
On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 16:21:44 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 14:08:25 +1200, It's A Me <its-a-me@mario.com>The only thing that matters in all of this is the cheapest and most
wrote:
On 2025-04-30 00:37:30 +0000, Gordon said:Hydro is probably the largest source of electricity generation in New >>Zealand - we know that there are problems when there are extended
The topic is about Green power becoming to great a percentage of the supply.
The power collaspe in Portugal, Spain and part of France is showing the >>>> world what can happen if the netork does not have the interia to balance >>>> change in load, or to give the operators enough time to correct the
situation.
The power generation was 60% by green power (wind and solar). Experts were >>>> warning that the network was likely to go down as there was not enough >>>> stability in the system. They have been proved right.
For NZ we have 86.3% of the capacity using spinning generators and 13.7% by
non rotating generators. Figures above are the installed capacity not
necessarily the generated output.
Relying solely on any form of weather-related power generation is
simply ridiculous.
periods with low rainfall, but how is relying on hydro generation for
part of our overall electricity needs ridiculous, It's A Me?
How is Hydro generation bad for the planet? And Wind turbines?
None of these so called "green energy" options are actually good for
the planet anyway. They all have big environmental problems.
reliable supply.
If that means burning coal then ignore the climate con-men and burn
it.
Bill.
On Thu, 01 May 2025 04:57:19 +1200, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 16:21:44 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 14:08:25 +1200, It's A Me <its-a-me@mario.com>
wrote:
On 2025-04-30 00:37:30 +0000, Gordon said:
The topic is about Green power becoming to great a percentage of the supply.
The power collaspe in Portugal, Spain and part of France is showing the >>>>> world what can happen if the netork does not have the interia to
balance change in load, or to give the operators enough time to correct >>>>> the situation.
The power generation was 60% by green power (wind and solar). Experts >>>>> were warning that the network was likely to go down as there was not >>>>> enough stability in the system. They have been proved right.
For NZ we have 86.3% of the capacity using spinning generators and
13.7% by non rotating generators. Figures above are the installed
capacity not necessarily the generated output.
Relying solely on any form of weather-related power generation is
simply ridiculous.
Hydro is probably the largest source of electricity generation in New
Zealand - we know that there are problems when there are extended
periods with low rainfall, but how is relying on hydro generation for
part of our overall electricity needs ridiculous, It's A Me?
None of these so called "green energy" options are actually good for
the planet anyway. They all have big environmental problems.
How is Hydro generation bad for the planet? And Wind turbines?
The only thing that matters in all of this is the cheapest and most
reliable supply.
If that means burning coal then ignore the climate con-men and burn
it.
Bill.
Indeed that is exactly what is happening, Bill, and it helps to keep
our electricity prices high. The large generating companies know that
every time Huntly is fired up due to low water levels from hydro, and insufficient wind or solar power, it increases the spot price for
electricity substantially, delivering a spike in electricity prices
that enhances profit for all the cartel members. The new solar farm
will help avoid at least some of those spikes, but don't expect any
big drop in your electricity bill . . .
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