https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal-election-2025-results
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/559831/australia-election-live-updates-anthony-albanese-emerges-on-top-as-peter-dutton-concedes
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/559833/australian-election-voters-reject-peter-dutton-s-vision-giving-labor-a-remarkable-victory-and-liberals-a-difficult-future
This follows the Canadian Election, and is seen as a rejection of
Trumpism, but there was a possible reference to New Zealand as well,
with his slogan of "Back on Track" - thoroughly discredited by Luxon
who cannot articulate what he means by it as he is led by Seymour -
the closest politician we have to Trump policies, but also about to
become our Deputy Prime Minister!
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/559831/australia-election-live-updates-anthony-albanese-emerges-on-top-as-peter-dutton-concedesYou are deluded. Seymour is nowhere near Trump in any way. In fact you resemble Trump intellectually and morally more than any of our center politicians but not quite as close as TPM are to Trump.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/559833/australian-election-voters-reject-peter-dutton-s-vision-giving-labor-a-remarkable-victory-and-liberals-a-difficult-future
This follows the Canadian Election, and is seen as a rejection of
Trumpism, but there was a possible reference to New Zealand as well,
with his slogan of "Back on Track" - thoroughly discredited by Luxon
who cannot articulate what he means by it as he is led by Seymour -
the closest politician we have to Trump policies, but also about to
become our Deputy Prime Minister!
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal-election-2025-results
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/559831/australia-election-live-updates-anthony-albanese-emerges-on-top-as-peter-dutton-concedes
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/559833/australian-election-voters-reject-peter-dutton-s-vision-giving-labor-a-remarkable-victory-and-liberals-a-difficult-future
This follows the Canadian Election, and is seen as a rejection of
Trumpism, but there was a possible reference to New Zealand as well,
with his slogan of "Back on Track" - thoroughly discredited by Luxon
who cannot articulate what he means by it as he is led by Seymour -
the closest politician we have to Trump policies, but also about to
become our Deputy Prime Minister!
Yes Australia shows the way to Abbo co-gevernace. Albo has already
said he's going to do a voice 2 referendum after the last one didn't
go his way. By the time the next election comes around it will be
too late for Australia to get back to normal and the same will
applies to NZ if the last lost ever get back in again.
On Sun, 04 May 2025 14:48:35 +1200, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal-election-2025-results
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/559831/australia-election-live-updates-anthony-albanese-emerges-on-top-as-peter-dutton-concedes
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/559833/australian-election-voters-reject-peter-dutton-s-vision-giving-labor-a-remarkable-victory-and-liberals-a-difficult-future
This follows the Canadian Election, and is seen as a rejection of >>>Trumpism, but there was a possible reference to New Zealand as well,
with his slogan of "Back on Track" - thoroughly discredited by Luxon
who cannot articulate what he means by it as he is led by Seymour -
the closest politician we have to Trump policies, but also about to >>>become our Deputy Prime Minister!
Yes Australia shows the way to Abbo co-gevernace. Albo has already
said he's going to do a voice 2 referendum after the last one didn't
go his way. By the time the next election comes around it will be
too late for Australia to get back to normal and the same will
applies to NZ if the last lost ever get back in again.
What suggests any move towards "co-gevernace", Mutley?
Certainly Australia has not shown the way for New Zealand in relation
to their treatment of indigenous Australians, and their history of
racism and racial prejudice over many years.
The election this year
was not however based on those issues - it rejected the stance being
taken by our government, and policies that appeared to be based on
Trump and Atlas Network prejudices; their treatment of aboriginal and
Torres Islanders was not a significant election issue.
On 2025-05-05, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Not clear what you are saying here . . .
On Sun, 04 May 2025 14:48:35 +1200, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal-election-2025-results
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/559831/australia-election-live-updates-anthony-albanese-emerges-on-top-as-peter-dutton-concedes
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/559833/australian-election-voters-reject-peter-dutton-s-vision-giving-labor-a-remarkable-victory-and-liberals-a-difficult-future
This follows the Canadian Election, and is seen as a rejection of >>>>Trumpism, but there was a possible reference to New Zealand as well, >>>>with his slogan of "Back on Track" - thoroughly discredited by Luxon >>>>who cannot articulate what he means by it as he is led by Seymour -
the closest politician we have to Trump policies, but also about to >>>>become our Deputy Prime Minister!
Yes Australia shows the way to Abbo co-gevernace. Albo has already >>>said he's going to do a voice 2 referendum after the last one didn't
go his way. By the time the next election comes around it will be
too late for Australia to get back to normal and the same will >>>applies to NZ if the last lost ever get back in again.
What suggests any move towards "co-gevernace", Mutley?
Certainly Australia has not shown the way for New Zealand in relation
to their treatment of indigenous Australians, and their history of
racism and racial prejudice over many years.
Like the treatment of the Maori, not a very 21st century.
Yes, there have been comments that Dutton was a major reason for theThe election this yearWell many Oz folks express the view that Dutton gave no alternative to >Labour, the the Liberals were a "weak" Labour so why vote for them.
was not however based on those issues - it rejected the stance being
taken by our government, and policies that appeared to be based on
Trump and Atlas Network prejudices; their treatment of aboriginal and
Torres Islanders was not a significant election issue.
A bit like NZ having no opposition from a decade or so back.
On 6 May 2025 00:27:22 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:Nonsense, that is not what happened.
On 2025-05-05, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Not clear what you are saying here . . .
On Sun, 04 May 2025 14:48:35 +1200, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal-election-2025-results
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/559831/australia-election-live-updates-anthony-albanese-emerges-on-top-as-peter-dutton-concedes
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/559833/australian-election-voters-reject-peter-dutton-s-vision-giving-labor-a-remarkable-victory-and-liberals-a-difficult-future
This follows the Canadian Election, and is seen as a rejection of >>>>>Trumpism, but there was a possible reference to New Zealand as well, >>>>>with his slogan of "Back on Track" - thoroughly discredited by Luxon >>>>>who cannot articulate what he means by it as he is led by Seymour - >>>>>the closest politician we have to Trump policies, but also about to >>>>>become our Deputy Prime Minister!
Yes Australia shows the way to Abbo co-gevernace. Albo has already >>>>said he's going to do a voice 2 referendum after the last one didn't >>>>go his way. By the time the next election comes around it will be >>>>too late for Australia to get back to normal and the same will >>>>applies to NZ if the last lost ever get back in again.
What suggests any move towards "co-gevernace", Mutley?
Certainly Australia has not shown the way for New Zealand in relation
to their treatment of indigenous Australians, and their history of
racism and racial prejudice over many years.
Like the treatment of the Maori, not a very 21st century.
Yes, there have been comments that Dutton was a major reason for the
The election this yearWell many Oz folks express the view that Dutton gave no alternative to >>Labour, the the Liberals were a "weak" Labour so why vote for them.
was not however based on those issues - it rejected the stance being
taken by our government, and policies that appeared to be based on
Trump and Atlas Network prejudices; their treatment of aboriginal and
Torres Islanders was not a significant election issue.
loss by the Liberal Party - he was not clear about policies, but that
was highlighted by his borrowing attitudes expressed by Trump, and in
respect of "Back on Track", a discredited slogan from New Zealand. >Australians are aware of the number of New Zealanders moving to
Australia; they do not want the sort of policies being implemented by
either the USA or NZ governments.
So I agree with your comment; it is
one of a number of ways of expressing the preference for Albanese over >Dutton.
A bit like NZ having no opposition from a decade or so back.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:What other reasons do you think contributed to the rejection of the
On 6 May 2025 00:27:22 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:Nonsense, that is not what happened.
On 2025-05-05, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Not clear what you are saying here . . .
On Sun, 04 May 2025 14:48:35 +1200, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal-election-2025-results
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/559831/australia-election-live-updates-anthony-albanese-emerges-on-top-as-peter-dutton-concedes
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/559833/australian-election-voters-reject-peter-dutton-s-vision-giving-labor-a-remarkable-victory-and-liberals-a-difficult-future
This follows the Canadian Election, and is seen as a rejection of >>>>>>Trumpism, but there was a possible reference to New Zealand as well, >>>>>>with his slogan of "Back on Track" - thoroughly discredited by Luxon >>>>>>who cannot articulate what he means by it as he is led by Seymour - >>>>>>the closest politician we have to Trump policies, but also about to >>>>>>become our Deputy Prime Minister!
Yes Australia shows the way to Abbo co-gevernace. Albo has already >>>>>said he's going to do a voice 2 referendum after the last one didn't >>>>>go his way. By the time the next election comes around it will be >>>>>too late for Australia to get back to normal and the same will >>>>>applies to NZ if the last lost ever get back in again.
What suggests any move towards "co-gevernace", Mutley?
Certainly Australia has not shown the way for New Zealand in relation
to their treatment of indigenous Australians, and their history of
racism and racial prejudice over many years.
Like the treatment of the Maori, not a very 21st century.
Yes, there have been comments that Dutton was a major reason for the
The election this yearWell many Oz folks express the view that Dutton gave no alternative to >>>Labour, the the Liberals were a "weak" Labour so why vote for them.
was not however based on those issues - it rejected the stance being
taken by our government, and policies that appeared to be based on
Trump and Atlas Network prejudices; their treatment of aboriginal and
Torres Islanders was not a significant election issue.
loss by the Liberal Party - he was not clear about policies, but that
was highlighted by his borrowing attitudes expressed by Trump, and in >>respect of "Back on Track", a discredited slogan from New Zealand. >>Australians are aware of the number of New Zealanders moving to
Australia; they do not want the sort of policies being implemented by >>either the USA or NZ governments.
So I agree with your comment; it is
one of a number of ways of expressing the preference for Albanese over >>Dutton.
A bit like NZ having no opposition from a decade or so back.
On Tue, 6 May 2025 04:48:10 -0000 (UTC), TonyIf I wished to discuss that I would start my own thread, I was referring to your posts.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:What other reasons do you think contributed to the rejection of the
On 6 May 2025 00:27:22 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:Nonsense, that is not what happened.
On 2025-05-05, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Not clear what you are saying here . . .
On Sun, 04 May 2025 14:48:35 +1200, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal-election-2025-results
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/559831/australia-election-live-updates-anthony-albanese-emerges-on-top-as-peter-dutton-concedes
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/559833/australian-election-voters-reject-peter-dutton-s-vision-giving-labor-a-remarkable-victory-and-liberals-a-difficult-future
This follows the Canadian Election, and is seen as a rejection of >>>>>>>Trumpism, but there was a possible reference to New Zealand as well, >>>>>>>with his slogan of "Back on Track" - thoroughly discredited by Luxon >>>>>>>who cannot articulate what he means by it as he is led by Seymour - >>>>>>>the closest politician we have to Trump policies, but also about to >>>>>>>become our Deputy Prime Minister!
Yes Australia shows the way to Abbo co-gevernace. Albo has already >>>>>>said he's going to do a voice 2 referendum after the last one didn't >>>>>>go his way. By the time the next election comes around it will be >>>>>>too late for Australia to get back to normal and the same will >>>>>>applies to NZ if the last lost ever get back in again.
What suggests any move towards "co-gevernace", Mutley?
Certainly Australia has not shown the way for New Zealand in relation >>>>> to their treatment of indigenous Australians, and their history of
racism and racial prejudice over many years.
Like the treatment of the Maori, not a very 21st century.
Yes, there have been comments that Dutton was a major reason for the
The election this yearWell many Oz folks express the view that Dutton gave no alternative to >>>>Labour, the the Liberals were a "weak" Labour so why vote for them.
was not however based on those issues - it rejected the stance being >>>>> taken by our government, and policies that appeared to be based on
Trump and Atlas Network prejudices; their treatment of aboriginal and >>>>> Torres Islanders was not a significant election issue.
loss by the Liberal Party - he was not clear about policies, but that
was highlighted by his borrowing attitudes expressed by Trump, and in >>>respect of "Back on Track", a discredited slogan from New Zealand. >>>Australians are aware of the number of New Zealanders moving to >>>Australia; they do not want the sort of policies being implemented by >>>either the USA or NZ governments.
Liberal / Country coalition in Australia, Tony? Certainly there was
quite a bit of comment when a Liberal Party politician wore a "Make
Australia Great Again" hat . . .
So I agree with your comment; it is
one of a number of ways of expressing the preference for Albanese over >>>Dutton.
A bit like NZ having no opposition from a decade or so back.
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