• Government on wrong track - again . . .

    From Rich80105@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 18 17:42:42 2025
  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Sun May 18 07:52:22 2025
  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Sun May 18 21:44:17 2025
    On Sun, 18 May 2025 07:52:22 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>https://theconversation.com/willis-warns-of-a-tight-budget-to-come-but-nz-should-be-going-for-productivity-not-austerity-254689?fbclid=IwY2xjawKWTVRleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETFyc0liOEF2RGdtM0xIUkpiAR7xTaUyDPpft6dl1FS6OflmwiCgDDFkVL5QsGFMOF4XTidUE-OdlfX8-
    aWoNg_aem_V2sGgcXwrX31r0WAy36G9Q
    The last government left them no choice.

    The losers excuse - we have higher unemployment, lower productivity,
    wages lagging behind inflation, a higher level of government
    borrowing, thousands of critical workers (including public servants,
    doctors, nurses, construction workers and teachers) emigrated to
    Australia and elsewhere; a near close down of the construction
    industry, more people living rough, difficulty getting immigrants into
    New Zealand - on the other side a small number of landlords better
    off, crony capitalism sending profits to donors to political parties
    such as tobacco companies (with smoking rates not falling at the same
    rate as previously and vaping numbers increasing). All balanced out in
    your eyes by the government stopping pay settlements for about 180,000
    people while MP remuneration (using the same assessment process denied
    for others) has given Ministers and MPs a salary rise - so Luxon and
    other cabinet ministers are well 'sorted' - all OK with you then Tony?

    Oh and of course we need to mention the mistake by the incompetent
    Minister of Finance on the ferries that will now cost the country
    billions in extra costs and years with only one rail capable ferry.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Sun May 18 19:38:52 2025
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 18 May 2025 07:52:22 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>https://theconversation.com/willis-warns-of-a-tight-budget-to-come-but-nz-should-be-going-for-productivity-not-austerity-254689?fbclid=IwY2xjawKWTVRleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETFyc0liOEF2RGdtM0xIUkpiAR7xTaUyDPpft6dl1FS6OflmwiCgDDFkVL5QsGFMOF4XTidUE-OdlfX8-
    aWoNg_aem_V2sGgcXwrX31r0WAy36G9Q
    The last government left them no choice.

    The losers excuse
    I am no loser - are you referriung to yourself or Hipkins?
    - we have higher unemployment, lower productivity,
    wages lagging behind inflation, a higher level of government
    borrowing, thousands of critical workers (including public servants,
    doctors, nurses, construction workers and teachers) emigrated to
    Australia and elsewhere; a near close down of the construction
    industry, more people living rough, difficulty getting immigrants into
    New Zealand - on the other side a small number of landlords better
    off, crony capitalism sending profits to donors to political parties
    such as tobacco companies (with smoking rates not falling at the same
    rate as previously and vaping numbers increasing). All balanced out in
    your eyes by the government stopping pay settlements for about 180,000
    people while MP remuneration (using the same assessment process denied
    for others) has given Ministers and MPs a salary rise - so Luxon and
    other cabinet ministers are well 'sorted' - all OK with you then Tony?

    Oh and of course we need to mention the mistake by the incompetent
    Minister of Finance on the ferries that will now cost the country
    billions in extra costs and years with only one rail capable ferry.
    All of that proves my truth.
    The last government started and compounded the rot, New Zealand is still in the process of fixing it (every one of us).

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Mon May 19 12:41:58 2025
    On Sun, 18 May 2025 19:38:14 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 18 May 2025 07:52:22 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>https://theconversation.com/willis-warns-of-a-tight-budget-to-come-but-nz-should-be-going-for-productivity-not-austerity-254689?fbclid=IwY2xjawKWTVRleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETFyc0liOEF2RGdtM0xIUkpiAR7xTaUyDPpft6dl1FS6OflmwiCgDDFkVL5QsGFMOF4XTidUE-OdlfX8-
    aWoNg_aem_V2sGgcXwrX31r0WAy36G9Q
    The last government left them no choice.

    The losers excuse
    I am no loser - are you referriung to yourself or Hipkins?
    It was your excuse Tony . . .

    - we have higher unemployment, lower productivity,
    wages lagging behind inflation, a higher level of government
    borrowing, thousands of critical workers (including public servants, >>doctors, nurses, construction workers and teachers) emigrated to
    Australia and elsewhere; a near close down of the construction
    industry, more people living rough, difficulty getting immigrants into
    New Zealand - on the other side a small number of landlords better
    off, crony capitalism sending profits to donors to political parties
    such as tobacco companies (with smoking rates not falling at the same
    rate as previously and vaping numbers increasing). All balanced out in
    your eyes by the government stopping pay settlements for about 180,000 >>people while MP remuneration (using the same assessment process denied
    for others) has given Ministers and MPs a salary rise - so Luxon and
    other cabinet ministers are well 'sorted' - all OK with you then Tony?

    Oh and of course we need to mention the mistake by the incompetent
    Minister of Finance on the ferries that will now cost the country
    billions in extra costs and years with only one rail capable ferry.
    All of that proves my truth.
    The last government started and compounded the rot, New Zealand is still in the
    process of fixing it (every one of us).

    The Budget will include at least an estimate of the break-fee for the cancellation of the ferries - but the total cost will be a lot higher
    - without the additional problems from being down to three ferries for
    a while, we may be up for $2 billion more than the cost of the work
    the previous government had started.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Mon May 19 07:21:15 2025
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 18 May 2025 19:38:14 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 18 May 2025 07:52:22 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>https://theconversation.com/willis-warns-of-a-tight-budget-to-come-but-nz-should-be-going-for-productivity-not-austerity-254689?fbclid=IwY2xjawKWTVRleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETFyc0liOEF2RGdtM0xIUkpiAR7xTaUyDPpft6dl1FS6OflmwiCgDDFkVL5QsGFMOF4XTidUE-OdlfX8-
    aWoNg_aem_V2sGgcXwrX31r0WAy36G9Q
    The last government left them no choice.

    The losers excuse
    I am no loser - are you referriung to yourself or Hipkins?
    It was your excuse Tony . . .
    I made and need no excuse. Why can you not understand English?

    - we have higher unemployment, lower productivity,
    wages lagging behind inflation, a higher level of government
    borrowing, thousands of critical workers (including public servants, >>>doctors, nurses, construction workers and teachers) emigrated to >>>Australia and elsewhere; a near close down of the construction
    industry, more people living rough, difficulty getting immigrants into >>>New Zealand - on the other side a small number of landlords better
    off, crony capitalism sending profits to donors to political parties
    such as tobacco companies (with smoking rates not falling at the same >>>rate as previously and vaping numbers increasing). All balanced out in >>>your eyes by the government stopping pay settlements for about 180,000 >>>people while MP remuneration (using the same assessment process denied >>>for others) has given Ministers and MPs a salary rise - so Luxon and >>>other cabinet ministers are well 'sorted' - all OK with you then Tony?

    Oh and of course we need to mention the mistake by the incompetent >>>Minister of Finance on the ferries that will now cost the country >>>billions in extra costs and years with only one rail capable ferry.
    All of that proves my truth.
    The last government started and compounded the rot, New Zealand is still in >>the
    process of fixing it (every one of us).

    The Budget will include at least an estimate of the break-fee for the >cancellation of the ferries - but the total cost will be a lot higher
    - without the additional problems from being down to three ferries for
    a while, we may be up for $2 billion more than the cost of the work
    the previous government had started.
    You are guessing, that is just one of your pathetic hopes - why do you hate New Zealanders so much?
    The last goverenment left this legacy and you know it.

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