On Wed, 28 May 2025 02:04:04 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/former-prime-minister-jim-bolger-is-about-to-turn-90/IKDPDVWZTCPVPMJ2TRSANDNXXE/
Yes that's the man who mercilessly pushed through an idiotic flood management >>scheme for Kapiti. I know several people there and they have had to fight to >>get some sense into the local, plans. Fiortunately they are winning I am told >>but it set the district back years.
He is also the man that, according to people that were there was offensive to >>somebody in a meeting just because they dared to disagree with him - that >>probably makes him one of your heroes.
I met him when he was PM, not an impressive person at all. He is also outspoken
about this country becoming a republic - he is in favour.
Not a lot to like and I certainly do not agree with his politics.
He did not speak about those matters, but we can rely on you not to
address what others say, Tony
On Wed, 28 May 2025 02:04:04 -0000 (UTC), TonyHe didn't need to.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/former-prime-minister-jim-bolger-is-about-to-turn-90/IKDPDVWZTCPVPMJ2TRSANDNXXE/
Yes that's the man who mercilessly pushed through an idiotic flood management >>scheme for Kapiti. I know several people there and they have had to fight to >>get some sense into the local, plans. Fiortunately they are winning I am told >>but it set the district back years.
He is also the man that, according to people that were there was offensive to >>somebody in a meeting just because they dared to disagree with him - that >>probably makes him one of your heroes.
I met him when he was PM, not an impressive person at all. He is also >>outspoken
about this country becoming a republic - he is in favour.
Not a lot to like and I certainly do not agree with his politics.
He did not speak about those matters
, but we can rely on you not toI note you object to a very slight diversion from the subject (not at all off-topic) and yet you feel that you have the right to go wildly off topic any time you want to, especially when you are wrong.
address what others say, Tony
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/former-prime-minister-jim-bolger-is-about-to-turn-90/IKDPDVWZTCPVPMJ2TRSANDNXXE/
Yes that's the man who mercilessly pushed through an idiotic flood management >scheme for Kapiti. I know several people there and they have had to fight to >get some sense into the local, plans. Fiortunately they are winning I am told >but it set the district back years.
He is also the man that, according to people that were there was offensive to >somebody in a meeting just because they dared to disagree with him - that >probably makes him one of your heroes.
I met him when he was PM, not an impressive person at all. He is also outspoken
about this country becoming a republic - he is in favour.
Not a lot to like and I certainly do not agree with his politics.
On Wed, 28 May 2025 14:35:11 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2025 02:04:04 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/former-prime-minister-jim-bolger-is-about-to-turn-90/IKDPDVWZTCPVPMJ2TRSANDNXXE/
Yes that's the man who mercilessly pushed through an idiotic flood management
scheme for Kapiti. I know several people there and they have had to fight to >>>get some sense into the local, plans. Fiortunately they are winning I am told
but it set the district back years.
He is also the man that, according to people that were there was offensive to
somebody in a meeting just because they dared to disagree with him - that >>>probably makes him one of your heroes.
I met him when he was PM, not an impressive person at all. He is also outspoken
about this country becoming a republic - he is in favour.
Not a lot to like and I certainly do not agree with his politics.
He did not speak about those matters, but we can rely on you not to
address what others say, Tony
Rich - neither did you. You gave no indication on why you thought
this thread was worthy of anyone's attention.
Bolger is nothing more than a PM from a long-gone era. Unless you can
bring to the thread some context for your post, I will ignore it.
On Wed, 28 May 2025 15:10:46 +1200, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2025 14:35:11 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2025 02:04:04 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/former-prime-minister-jim-bolger-is-about-to-turn-90/IKDPDVWZTCPVPMJ2TRSANDNXXE/
Yes that's the man who mercilessly pushed through an idiotic flood management
scheme for Kapiti. I know several people there and they have had to fight to
get some sense into the local, plans. Fiortunately they are winning I am told
but it set the district back years.
He is also the man that, according to people that were there was offensive to
somebody in a meeting just because they dared to disagree with him - that >>>>probably makes him one of your heroes.
I met him when he was PM, not an impressive person at all. He is also outspoken
about this country becoming a republic - he is in favour.
Not a lot to like and I certainly do not agree with his politics.
He did not speak about those matters, but we can rely on you not to >>>address what others say, Tony
Rich - neither did you. You gave no indication on why you thought
this thread was worthy of anyone's attention.
Bolger is nothing more than a PM from a long-gone era. Unless you can >>bring to the thread some context for your post, I will ignore it.
It is a very short video - listen from 1 minute to 3 minutes and you
will get the gist of what he regards as an important issue for New
Zealand.
At age 90 he does not appear to have the age related issues that are
evident in both Joe Biden and Donald Trump; the opinion he expresses
is shared by many New Zealanders; sadly the current National Party
leader appears to be following the lead of the ACT Party
On Wed, 28 May 2025 15:10:46 +1200, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2025 14:35:11 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2025 02:04:04 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/former-prime-minister-jim-bolger-is-about-to-turn-90/IKDPDVWZTCPVPMJ2TRSANDNXXE/
Yes that's the man who mercilessly pushed through an idiotic flood >>>>management
scheme for Kapiti. I know several people there and they have had to fight >>>>to
get some sense into the local, plans. Fiortunately they are winning I am >>>>told
but it set the district back years.
He is also the man that, according to people that were there was offensive >>>>to
somebody in a meeting just because they dared to disagree with him - that >>>>probably makes him one of your heroes.
I met him when he was PM, not an impressive person at all. He is also >>>>outspoken
about this country becoming a republic - he is in favour.
Not a lot to like and I certainly do not agree with his politics.
He did not speak about those matters, but we can rely on you not to >>>address what others say, Tony
Rich - neither did you. You gave no indication on why you thought
this thread was worthy of anyone's attention.
Bolger is nothing more than a PM from a long-gone era. Unless you can >>bring to the thread some context for your post, I will ignore it.
It is a very short video - listen from 1 minute to 3 minutes and you
will get the gist of what he regards as an important issue for New
Zealand.
At age 90 he does not appear to have the age related issues that are
evident in both Joe Biden and Donald Trump; the opinion he expresses
is shared by many New Zealanders; sadly the current National Party
leader appears to be following the lead of the ACT Party
On Wed, 28 May 2025 15:23:05 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2025 15:10:46 +1200, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2025 14:35:11 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2025 02:04:04 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/former-prime-minister-jim-bolger-is-about-to-turn-90/IKDPDVWZTCPVPMJ2TRSANDNXXE/
Yes that's the man who mercilessly pushed through an idiotic flood management
scheme for Kapiti. I know several people there and they have had to fight to
get some sense into the local, plans. Fiortunately they are winning I am told
but it set the district back years.
He is also the man that, according to people that were there was offensive to
somebody in a meeting just because they dared to disagree with him - that >>>>>probably makes him one of your heroes.
I met him when he was PM, not an impressive person at all. He is also outspoken
about this country becoming a republic - he is in favour.
Not a lot to like and I certainly do not agree with his politics.
He did not speak about those matters, but we can rely on you not to >>>>address what others say, Tony
Rich - neither did you. You gave no indication on why you thought
this thread was worthy of anyone's attention.
Bolger is nothing more than a PM from a long-gone era. Unless you can >>>bring to the thread some context for your post, I will ignore it.
It is a very short video - listen from 1 minute to 3 minutes and you
will get the gist of what he regards as an important issue for New
Zealand.
At age 90 he does not appear to have the age related issues that are >>evident in both Joe Biden and Donald Trump; the opinion he expresses
is shared by many New Zealanders; sadly the current National Party
leader appears to be following the lead of the ACT Party
How is this relevant to current affairs in NZ? He ceased to be PM 26
years ago so how does his views have any relevance today? Did he
actually say anything that is illuminating?
Its very much looks like your interest has been generated because he
said something that bags National today. Nothing to interest to me
here.
On Wed, 28 May 2025 20:07:48 +1200, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>Unlike Labour who only speak for a racial minority.
wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2025 15:23:05 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2025 15:10:46 +1200, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2025 14:35:11 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2025 02:04:04 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/former-prime-minister-jim-bolger-is-about-to-turn-90/IKDPDVWZTCPVPMJ2TRSANDNXXE/
Yes that's the man who mercilessly pushed through an idiotic flood >>>>>>management
scheme for Kapiti. I know several people there and they have had to fight >>>>>>to
get some sense into the local, plans. Fiortunately they are winning I am >>>>>>told
but it set the district back years.
He is also the man that, according to people that were there was >>>>>>offensive to
somebody in a meeting just because they dared to disagree with him - that >>>>>>probably makes him one of your heroes.
I met him when he was PM, not an impressive person at all. He is also >>>>>>outspoken
about this country becoming a republic - he is in favour.
Not a lot to like and I certainly do not agree with his politics.
He did not speak about those matters, but we can rely on you not to >>>>>address what others say, Tony
Rich - neither did you. You gave no indication on why you thought
this thread was worthy of anyone's attention.
Bolger is nothing more than a PM from a long-gone era. Unless you can >>>>bring to the thread some context for your post, I will ignore it.
It is a very short video - listen from 1 minute to 3 minutes and you
will get the gist of what he regards as an important issue for New >>>Zealand.
At age 90 he does not appear to have the age related issues that are >>>evident in both Joe Biden and Donald Trump; the opinion he expresses
is shared by many New Zealanders; sadly the current National Party
leader appears to be following the lead of the ACT Party
How is this relevant to current affairs in NZ? He ceased to be PM 26
years ago so how does his views have any relevance today? Did he
actually say anything that is illuminating?
Its very much looks like your interest has been generated because he
said something that bags National today. Nothing to interest to me
here.
He identified the issue that has most changed to the detriment of New
Zealand since he was Prime Minister, in a way that did not criticise
the current leader - but he undoubtedly knows that National are being
led by ACT, who have made sure that they get economic advice from the
old Business Round Table that is still trying to hid its Atlas Network >economic extremism . . . Bolger will have spoken for a lot of "old >National" politicians that know that long term, National need to work
for all New Zealanders, or they will only have short periods in
office.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2025 20:07:48 +1200, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>wrote:Unlike Labour who only speak for a racial minority.
On Wed, 28 May 2025 15:23:05 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2025 15:10:46 +1200, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2025 14:35:11 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2025 02:04:04 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/former-prime-minister-jim-bolger-is-about-to-turn-90/IKDPDVWZTCPVPMJ2TRSANDNXXE/
Yes that's the man who mercilessly pushed through an idiotic flood >>>>>>>management
scheme for Kapiti. I know several people there and they have had to fight
to
get some sense into the local, plans. Fiortunately they are winning I am >>>>>>>told
but it set the district back years.
He is also the man that, according to people that were there was >>>>>>>offensive to
somebody in a meeting just because they dared to disagree with him - that
probably makes him one of your heroes.
I met him when he was PM, not an impressive person at all. He is also >>>>>>>outspoken
about this country becoming a republic - he is in favour.
Not a lot to like and I certainly do not agree with his politics.
He did not speak about those matters, but we can rely on you not to >>>>>>address what others say, Tony
Rich - neither did you. You gave no indication on why you thought >>>>>this thread was worthy of anyone's attention.
Bolger is nothing more than a PM from a long-gone era. Unless you can >>>>>bring to the thread some context for your post, I will ignore it.
It is a very short video - listen from 1 minute to 3 minutes and you >>>>will get the gist of what he regards as an important issue for New >>>>Zealand.
At age 90 he does not appear to have the age related issues that are >>>>evident in both Joe Biden and Donald Trump; the opinion he expresses
is shared by many New Zealanders; sadly the current National Party >>>>leader appears to be following the lead of the ACT Party
How is this relevant to current affairs in NZ? He ceased to be PM 26 >>>years ago so how does his views have any relevance today? Did he >>>actually say anything that is illuminating?
Its very much looks like your interest has been generated because he
said something that bags National today. Nothing to interest to me
here.
He identified the issue that has most changed to the detriment of New >>Zealand since he was Prime Minister, in a way that did not criticise
the current leader - but he undoubtedly knows that National are being
led by ACT, who have made sure that they get economic advice from the
old Business Round Table that is still trying to hid its Atlas Network >>economic extremism . . . Bolger will have spoken for a lot of "old >>National" politicians that know that long term, National need to work
for all New Zealanders, or they will only have short periods in
office.
On Wed, 28 May 2025 19:38:21 -0000 (UTC), TonyThey didn't last time, they governed for an entitled racist minority. They won't next time unless all the current leaders piss off and are replaced with traditional Labour leaders virtually no hope of that).
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2025 20:07:48 +1200, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>wrote:Unlike Labour who only speak for a racial minority.
On Wed, 28 May 2025 15:23:05 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2025 15:10:46 +1200, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>>wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2025 14:35:11 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>>wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2025 02:04:04 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/former-prime-minister-jim-bolger-is-about-to-turn-90/IKDPDVWZTCPVPMJ2TRSANDNXXE/He did not speak about those matters, but we can rely on you not to >>>>>>>address what others say, Tony
Yes that's the man who mercilessly pushed through an idiotic flood >>>>>>>>management
scheme for Kapiti. I know several people there and they have had to >>>>>>>>fight
to
get some sense into the local, plans. Fiortunately they are winning I >>>>>>>>am
told
but it set the district back years.
He is also the man that, according to people that were there was >>>>>>>>offensive to
somebody in a meeting just because they dared to disagree with him - >>>>>>>>that
probably makes him one of your heroes.
I met him when he was PM, not an impressive person at all. He is also >>>>>>>>outspoken
about this country becoming a republic - he is in favour.
Not a lot to like and I certainly do not agree with his politics. >>>>>>>
Rich - neither did you. You gave no indication on why you thought >>>>>>this thread was worthy of anyone's attention.
Bolger is nothing more than a PM from a long-gone era. Unless you can >>>>>>bring to the thread some context for your post, I will ignore it.
It is a very short video - listen from 1 minute to 3 minutes and you >>>>>will get the gist of what he regards as an important issue for New >>>>>Zealand.
At age 90 he does not appear to have the age related issues that are >>>>>evident in both Joe Biden and Donald Trump; the opinion he expresses >>>>>is shared by many New Zealanders; sadly the current National Party >>>>>leader appears to be following the lead of the ACT Party
How is this relevant to current affairs in NZ? He ceased to be PM 26 >>>>years ago so how does his views have any relevance today? Did he >>>>actually say anything that is illuminating?
Its very much looks like your interest has been generated because he >>>>said something that bags National today. Nothing to interest to me >>>>here.
He identified the issue that has most changed to the detriment of New >>>Zealand since he was Prime Minister, in a way that did not criticise
the current leader - but he undoubtedly knows that National are being
led by ACT, who have made sure that they get economic advice from the
old Business Round Table that is still trying to hid its Atlas Network >>>economic extremism . . . Bolger will have spoken for a lot of "old >>>National" politicians that know that long term, National need to work
for all New Zealanders, or they will only have short periods in
office.
Don't worry Tony, Labour will govern in your interest as well.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2025 20:07:48 +1200, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>wrote:Unlike Labour who only speak for a racial minority.
On Wed, 28 May 2025 15:23:05 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2025 15:10:46 +1200, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2025 14:35:11 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2025 02:04:04 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/former-prime-minister-jim-bolger-is-about-to-turn-90/IKDPDVWZTCPVPMJ2TRSANDNXXE/
Yes that's the man who mercilessly pushed through an idiotic flood >>>>>>>management
scheme for Kapiti. I know several people there and they have had to fight
to
get some sense into the local, plans. Fiortunately they are winning I am >>>>>>>told
but it set the district back years.
He is also the man that, according to people that were there was >>>>>>>offensive to
somebody in a meeting just because they dared to disagree with him - that
probably makes him one of your heroes.
I met him when he was PM, not an impressive person at all. He is also >>>>>>>outspoken
about this country becoming a republic - he is in favour.
Not a lot to like and I certainly do not agree with his politics.
He did not speak about those matters, but we can rely on you not to >>>>>>address what others say, Tony
Rich - neither did you. You gave no indication on why you thought >>>>>this thread was worthy of anyone's attention.
Bolger is nothing more than a PM from a long-gone era. Unless you can >>>>>bring to the thread some context for your post, I will ignore it.
It is a very short video - listen from 1 minute to 3 minutes and you >>>>will get the gist of what he regards as an important issue for New >>>>Zealand.
At age 90 he does not appear to have the age related issues that are >>>>evident in both Joe Biden and Donald Trump; the opinion he expresses
is shared by many New Zealanders; sadly the current National Party >>>>leader appears to be following the lead of the ACT Party
How is this relevant to current affairs in NZ? He ceased to be PM 26 >>>years ago so how does his views have any relevance today? Did he >>>actually say anything that is illuminating?
Its very much looks like your interest has been generated because he
said something that bags National today. Nothing to interest to me
here.
He identified the issue that has most changed to the detriment of New >>Zealand since he was Prime Minister, in a way that did not criticise
the current leader - but he undoubtedly knows that National are being
led by ACT, who have made sure that they get economic advice from the
old Business Round Table that is still trying to hid its Atlas Network >>economic extremism . . . Bolger will have spoken for a lot of "old >>National" politicians that know that long term, National need to work
for all New Zealanders, or they will only have short periods in
office.
On Thu, 29 May 2025 01:14:04 -0000 (UTC), TonyWhat is alleged to have been said is wrong. However I am not interested in an unattributed report.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2025 19:38:21 -0000 (UTC), TonyThey didn't last time, they governed for an entitled racist minority. They >>won't next time unless all the current leaders piss off and are replaced with >>traditional Labour leaders virtually no hope of that).
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2025 20:07:48 +1200, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>>wrote:Unlike Labour who only speak for a racial minority.
On Wed, 28 May 2025 15:23:05 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>>wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2025 15:10:46 +1200, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>>>>wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2025 14:35:11 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>wrote:It is a very short video - listen from 1 minute to 3 minutes and you >>>>>>>will get the gist of what he regards as an important issue for New >>>>>>>Zealand.
On Wed, 28 May 2025 02:04:04 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/former-prime-minister-jim-bolger-is-about-to-turn-90/IKDPDVWZTCPVPMJ2TRSANDNXXE/He did not speak about those matters, but we can rely on you not to >>>>>>>>>address what others say, Tony
Yes that's the man who mercilessly pushed through an idiotic flood >>>>>>>>>>management
scheme for Kapiti. I know several people there and they have had to >>>>>>>>>>fight
to
get some sense into the local, plans. Fiortunately they are winning I >>>>>>>>>>am
told
but it set the district back years.
He is also the man that, according to people that were there was >>>>>>>>>>offensive to
somebody in a meeting just because they dared to disagree with him - >>>>>>>>>>that
probably makes him one of your heroes.
I met him when he was PM, not an impressive person at all. He is also >>>>>>>>>>outspoken
about this country becoming a republic - he is in favour. >>>>>>>>>>Not a lot to like and I certainly do not agree with his politics. >>>>>>>>>
Rich - neither did you. You gave no indication on why you thought >>>>>>>>this thread was worthy of anyone's attention.
Bolger is nothing more than a PM from a long-gone era. Unless you can >>>>>>>>bring to the thread some context for your post, I will ignore it. >>>>>>>
At age 90 he does not appear to have the age related issues that are >>>>>>>evident in both Joe Biden and Donald Trump; the opinion he expresses >>>>>>>is shared by many New Zealanders; sadly the current National Party >>>>>>>leader appears to be following the lead of the ACT Party
How is this relevant to current affairs in NZ? He ceased to be PM 26 >>>>>>years ago so how does his views have any relevance today? Did he >>>>>>actually say anything that is illuminating?
Its very much looks like your interest has been generated because he >>>>>>said something that bags National today. Nothing to interest to me >>>>>>here.
He identified the issue that has most changed to the detriment of New >>>>>Zealand since he was Prime Minister, in a way that did not criticise >>>>>the current leader - but he undoubtedly knows that National are being >>>>>led by ACT, who have made sure that they get economic advice from the >>>>>old Business Round Table that is still trying to hid its Atlas Network >>>>>economic extremism . . . Bolger will have spoken for a lot of "old >>>>>National" politicians that know that long term, National need to work >>>>>for all New Zealanders, or they will only have short periods in >>>>>office.
Don't worry Tony, Labour will govern in your interest as well.
I found a slightly longer written report on the Bolger interview:
"So does Bolger have any advice for Seymour?
“Keep out of the road of the Prime Minister and let the Prime Minister
get on with the job, and just remind himself he is not Prime Minister.
“His risk will be he wants to be Prime Minister...that’s Luxon’s >responsibility.
“Deputy Prime Minister should not be a high-profile role and wasn’t in
my day and shouldn’t be now. It’s a support role.”
Bolger, who led New Zealand through the first big Treaty of Waitangi >settlements in the 1990s, is clearly unimpressed with Seymour and what
he sees as an unnecessary focus on Maori policy.
“We have one party in Government called the Act Party and their leader >Seymour, who seems determined to be anti-Maori, and I’ve no idea what
their ambition is,” Bolger claimed.
Bolger said he was not sure if the aim was to gain the support of
racists, which he estimated to be about 10% of New Zealanders.
“But he always seems to have a sharp edge when he’s dealing with Maori >issues.
“But I think the Prime Minister, the leader of by far the largest
party, should be much firmer in pushing Seymour back. He shouldn’t
just sit there and take it.
“He should actually speak up and tell him to shut up.” "
On Wed, 28 May 2025 19:38:21 -0000 (UTC), TonyOnly if they get in and only if TPM are not part of it and only of the Greens have disappeared and only if the Labour leadership is replaced. Otherwise they have every chance.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2025 20:07:48 +1200, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>wrote:Unlike Labour who only speak for a racial minority.
On Wed, 28 May 2025 15:23:05 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2025 15:10:46 +1200, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>>wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2025 14:35:11 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>>wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2025 02:04:04 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/former-prime-minister-jim-bolger-is-about-to-turn-90/IKDPDVWZTCPVPMJ2TRSANDNXXE/He did not speak about those matters, but we can rely on you not to >>>>>>>address what others say, Tony
Yes that's the man who mercilessly pushed through an idiotic flood >>>>>>>>management
scheme for Kapiti. I know several people there and they have had to >>>>>>>>fight
to
get some sense into the local, plans. Fiortunately they are winning I >>>>>>>>am
told
but it set the district back years.
He is also the man that, according to people that were there was >>>>>>>>offensive to
somebody in a meeting just because they dared to disagree with him - >>>>>>>>that
probably makes him one of your heroes.
I met him when he was PM, not an impressive person at all. He is also >>>>>>>>outspoken
about this country becoming a republic - he is in favour.
Not a lot to like and I certainly do not agree with his politics. >>>>>>>
Rich - neither did you. You gave no indication on why you thought >>>>>>this thread was worthy of anyone's attention.
Bolger is nothing more than a PM from a long-gone era. Unless you can >>>>>>bring to the thread some context for your post, I will ignore it.
It is a very short video - listen from 1 minute to 3 minutes and you >>>>>will get the gist of what he regards as an important issue for New >>>>>Zealand.
At age 90 he does not appear to have the age related issues that are >>>>>evident in both Joe Biden and Donald Trump; the opinion he expresses >>>>>is shared by many New Zealanders; sadly the current National Party >>>>>leader appears to be following the lead of the ACT Party
How is this relevant to current affairs in NZ? He ceased to be PM 26 >>>>years ago so how does his views have any relevance today? Did he >>>>actually say anything that is illuminating?
Its very much looks like your interest has been generated because he >>>>said something that bags National today. Nothing to interest to me >>>>here.
He identified the issue that has most changed to the detriment of New >>>Zealand since he was Prime Minister, in a way that did not criticise
the current leader - but he undoubtedly knows that National are being
led by ACT, who have made sure that they get economic advice from the
old Business Round Table that is still trying to hid its Atlas Network >>>economic extremism . . . Bolger will have spoken for a lot of "old >>>National" politicians that know that long term, National need to work
for all New Zealanders, or they will only have short periods in
office.
Don't worry Tony, Labour will speak for and look after even as small a >minority as you - as well of course as for all other New Zealanders.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2025 19:38:21 -0000 (UTC), TonyThey didn't last time, they governed for an entitled racist minority. They >won't next time unless all the current leaders piss off and are replaced with >traditional Labour leaders virtually no hope of that).
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2025 20:07:48 +1200, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>wrote:Unlike Labour who only speak for a racial minority.
On Wed, 28 May 2025 15:23:05 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2025 15:10:46 +1200, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>>>wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2025 14:35:11 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2025 02:04:04 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/former-prime-minister-jim-bolger-is-about-to-turn-90/IKDPDVWZTCPVPMJ2TRSANDNXXE/He did not speak about those matters, but we can rely on you not to >>>>>>>>address what others say, Tony
Yes that's the man who mercilessly pushed through an idiotic flood >>>>>>>>>management
scheme for Kapiti. I know several people there and they have had to >>>>>>>>>fight
to
get some sense into the local, plans. Fiortunately they are winning I >>>>>>>>>am
told
but it set the district back years.
He is also the man that, according to people that were there was >>>>>>>>>offensive to
somebody in a meeting just because they dared to disagree with him - >>>>>>>>>that
probably makes him one of your heroes.
I met him when he was PM, not an impressive person at all. He is also >>>>>>>>>outspoken
about this country becoming a republic - he is in favour.
Not a lot to like and I certainly do not agree with his politics. >>>>>>>>
Rich - neither did you. You gave no indication on why you thought >>>>>>>this thread was worthy of anyone's attention.
Bolger is nothing more than a PM from a long-gone era. Unless you can >>>>>>>bring to the thread some context for your post, I will ignore it.
It is a very short video - listen from 1 minute to 3 minutes and you >>>>>>will get the gist of what he regards as an important issue for New >>>>>>Zealand.
At age 90 he does not appear to have the age related issues that are >>>>>>evident in both Joe Biden and Donald Trump; the opinion he expresses >>>>>>is shared by many New Zealanders; sadly the current National Party >>>>>>leader appears to be following the lead of the ACT Party
How is this relevant to current affairs in NZ? He ceased to be PM 26 >>>>>years ago so how does his views have any relevance today? Did he >>>>>actually say anything that is illuminating?
Its very much looks like your interest has been generated because he >>>>>said something that bags National today. Nothing to interest to me >>>>>here.
He identified the issue that has most changed to the detriment of New >>>>Zealand since he was Prime Minister, in a way that did not criticise >>>>the current leader - but he undoubtedly knows that National are being >>>>led by ACT, who have made sure that they get economic advice from the >>>>old Business Round Table that is still trying to hid its Atlas Network >>>>economic extremism . . . Bolger will have spoken for a lot of "old >>>>National" politicians that know that long term, National need to work >>>>for all New Zealanders, or they will only have short periods in
office.
Don't worry Tony, Labour will govern in your interest as well.
On Wed, 28 May 2025 20:07:48 +1200, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2025 15:23:05 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2025 15:10:46 +1200, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2025 14:35:11 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2025 02:04:04 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/former-prime-minister-jim-bolger-is-about-to-turn-90/IKDPDVWZTCPVPMJ2TRSANDNXXE/
Yes that's the man who mercilessly pushed through an idiotic flood management
scheme for Kapiti. I know several people there and they have had to fight to
get some sense into the local, plans. Fiortunately they are winning I am told
but it set the district back years.
He is also the man that, according to people that were there was offensive to
somebody in a meeting just because they dared to disagree with him - that >>>>>>probably makes him one of your heroes.
I met him when he was PM, not an impressive person at all. He is also outspoken
about this country becoming a republic - he is in favour.
Not a lot to like and I certainly do not agree with his politics.
He did not speak about those matters, but we can rely on you not to >>>>>address what others say, Tony
Rich - neither did you. You gave no indication on why you thought
this thread was worthy of anyone's attention.
Bolger is nothing more than a PM from a long-gone era. Unless you can >>>>bring to the thread some context for your post, I will ignore it.
It is a very short video - listen from 1 minute to 3 minutes and you
will get the gist of what he regards as an important issue for New >>>Zealand.
At age 90 he does not appear to have the age related issues that are >>>evident in both Joe Biden and Donald Trump; the opinion he expresses
is shared by many New Zealanders; sadly the current National Party
leader appears to be following the lead of the ACT Party
How is this relevant to current affairs in NZ? He ceased to be PM 26
years ago so how does his views have any relevance today? Did he
actually say anything that is illuminating?
Its very much looks like your interest has been generated because he
said something that bags National today. Nothing to interest to me
here.
He identified the issue that has most changed to the detriment of New
Zealand since he was Prime Minister,
in a way that did not criticise
the current leader - but he undoubtedly knows that National are being
led by ACT, who have made sure that they get economic advice from the
old Business Round Table that is still trying to hid its Atlas Network >economic extremism . . . Bolger will have spoken for a lot of "old >National" politicians that know that long term, National need to work
for all New Zealanders, or they will only have short periods in
office.
Not a lot to like and I certainly do not agree with his politics.
On Wed, 28 May 2025, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Not a lot to like and I certainly do not agree with his politics.
It is said that Bolger and Winston bonded over shots of whiskey back
in 1996. I've always felt Winston would've needed the lion's share of
the whiskey.
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