• Regulatory Standards Bill

    From Rich80105@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 3 10:35:21 2025
    https://newsroom.co.nz/2025/07/02/geoffrey-palmer-passing-regulatory-standards-bill-will-exact-high-political-price/

    Perhaps we should be thankful for each of the three government parties demonstrating how unfit for office they are - in their own ways they
    appear to know that the end is near - Luxon just wants photo-ops for
    the retirement he would rather not have; Peters and Jones just want
    more money for the retirement they know is coming, and Seymour is just
    doing what he is told. Three weak party "leaders", with no real
    leadership in any of them.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Thu Jul 3 07:07:27 2025
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 00:36:37 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>https://newsroom.co.nz/2025/07/02/geoffrey-palmer-passing-regulatory-standards-bill-will-exact-high-political-price/

    Perhaps we should be thankful for each of the three government parties >>>demonstrating how unfit for office they are - in their own ways they >>>appear to know that the end is near - Luxon just wants photo-ops for
    the retirement he would rather not have; Peters and Jones just want
    more money for the retirement they know is coming, and Seymour is just >>>doing what he is told. Three weak party "leaders", with no real >>>leadership in any of them.
    I've suggested more than once before that you really shouldn't try to post >>humour, your jokes just don't seem to have class.

    Keep on topic Rich or do your usual copwardly run n' hide.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Thu Jul 3 21:58:09 2025
    On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 07:07:27 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 00:36:37 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>https://newsroom.co.nz/2025/07/02/geoffrey-palmer-passing-regulatory-standards-bill-will-exact-high-political-price/

    Perhaps we should be thankful for each of the three government parties >>>>demonstrating how unfit for office they are - in their own ways they >>>>appear to know that the end is near - Luxon just wants photo-ops for >>>>the retirement he would rather not have; Peters and Jones just want >>>>more money for the retirement they know is coming, and Seymour is just >>>>doing what he is told. Three weak party "leaders", with no real >>>>leadership in any of them.
    I've suggested more than once before that you really shouldn't try to post >>>humour, your jokes just don't seem to have class.

    Keep on topic Rich or do your usual copwardly run n' hide.
    Some of us have a life, Tony - if I am away I do not post. You on the
    other hand literally cut posts you cannot understand or do not like -
    that is a real cowardly cut and run . . .

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Thu Jul 3 20:27:44 2025
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 07:07:27 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 00:36:37 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>https://newsroom.co.nz/2025/07/02/geoffrey-palmer-passing-regulatory-standards-bill-will-exact-high-political-price/

    Perhaps we should be thankful for each of the three government parties >>>>>demonstrating how unfit for office they are - in their own ways they >>>>>appear to know that the end is near - Luxon just wants photo-ops for >>>>>the retirement he would rather not have; Peters and Jones just want >>>>>more money for the retirement they know is coming, and Seymour is just >>>>>doing what he is told. Three weak party "leaders", with no real >>>>>leadership in any of them.
    I've suggested more than once before that you really shouldn't try to post >>>>humour, your jokes just don't seem to have class.

    Keep on topic Rich or do your usual copwardly run n' hide.
    Some of us have a life, Tony - if I am away I do not post. You on the
    other hand literally cut posts you cannot understand or do not like -
    that is a real cowardly cut and run . . .
    No, that is my right when facing a selfish, opinionated, politically obsessed moron like you.
    You don't make the rules here thank goodness. So run away little boy.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Thu Jul 3 00:36:37 2025
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >https://newsroom.co.nz/2025/07/02/geoffrey-palmer-passing-regulatory-standards-bill-will-exact-high-political-price/

    Perhaps we should be thankful for each of the three government parties >demonstrating how unfit for office they are - in their own ways they
    appear to know that the end is near - Luxon just wants photo-ops for
    the retirement he would rather not have; Peters and Jones just want
    more money for the retirement they know is coming, and Seymour is just
    doing what he is told. Three weak party "leaders", with no real
    leadership in any of them.
    I've suggested more than once before that you really shouldn't try to post humour, your jokes just don't seem to have class.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Thu Jul 3 13:25:49 2025
    On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 00:36:37 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>https://newsroom.co.nz/2025/07/02/geoffrey-palmer-passing-regulatory-standards-bill-will-exact-high-political-price/

    Perhaps we should be thankful for each of the three government parties >>demonstrating how unfit for office they are - in their own ways they
    appear to know that the end is near - Luxon just wants photo-ops for
    the retirement he would rather not have; Peters and Jones just want
    more money for the retirement they know is coming, and Seymour is just >>doing what he is told. Three weak party "leaders", with no real
    leadership in any of them.
    I've suggested more than once before that you really shouldn't try to post >humour, your jokes just don't seem to have class.

    I'm glad you see the humour in Luxon being the biggest joke, Tony;
    although on a serious note he does seem to have become passably good
    at taking selfies. His general incompetence aside however, the person
    who will lose government for the far-right is Seymour - he who attacks
    free speech by accusing those that politely disagree with him as
    having caught his derangement syndrome, and is also proposing huge administrative waste through his "Regulatory Board" - but don't expect
    him to be called out by the TPU or FSU . . .!

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Fri Jul 4 09:00:20 2025
    On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 20:27:44 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 07:07:27 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 00:36:37 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>https://newsroom.co.nz/2025/07/02/geoffrey-palmer-passing-regulatory-standards-bill-will-exact-high-political-price/

    Perhaps we should be thankful for each of the three government parties >>>>>>demonstrating how unfit for office they are - in their own ways they >>>>>>appear to know that the end is near - Luxon just wants photo-ops for >>>>>>the retirement he would rather not have; Peters and Jones just want >>>>>>more money for the retirement they know is coming, and Seymour is just >>>>>>doing what he is told. Three weak party "leaders", with no real >>>>>>leadership in any of them.
    I've suggested more than once before that you really shouldn't try to post >>>>>humour, your jokes just don't seem to have class.

    Keep on topic Rich or do your usual copwardly run n' hide.
    Some of us have a life, Tony - if I am away I do not post. You on the
    other hand literally cut posts you cannot understand or do not like -
    that is a real cowardly cut and run . . .
    No, that is my right when facing a selfish, opinionated, politically obsessed >moron like you.
    Of course it is - as your Leader said: I have an entitlement, and
    because of that I am entitled! You would probably also claim that you
    are "sorted" so others should be able to pay for their own psych
    services as you do . . .

    You don't make the rules here thank goodness. So run away little boy. Thankfully you do not make the rules here either, Tony - but yes I
    have observed that you do know well how to "copwardly run n' hide"
    from addressing issues . . .

    So back to the Regulatory Standards Bill - it will cost a huge amount
    of money for reviews that are already taking place in government
    departments - we will pay twice for the same work - it will slow down legislation until it gets Seymour's approval; Seymour will be able to
    delay anything he does not like and over-ride parliament - and you
    agree with that?

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  • From greybeard@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 4 11:22:18 2025
    On 3/07/25 10:35, Rich80105 wrote:
    https://newsroom.co.nz/2025/07/02/geoffrey-palmer-passing-regulatory-standards-bill-will-exact-high-political-price/

    Perhaps we should be thankful for each of the three government parties demonstrating how unfit for office they are - in their own ways they
    appear to know that the end is near - Luxon just wants photo-ops for
    the retirement he would rather not have; Peters and Jones just want
    more money for the retirement they know is coming, and Seymour is just
    doing what he is told. Three weak party "leaders", with no real
    leadership in any of them.

    Partly right. Lux is a nincompoop. His media stand-ups are pathetic.

    Lux, Peters and Collins have turned NZ Foreign Affairs into an
    international laughing stock, parroting all the crap narratives
    that Washington, Westminster and Canberra vomit. Lux just loves
    those photo-ops. What a dick!

    Time for Shane Jones and David Seymour to step up.

    As for the 3 opposition parties, they're all clowns.
    TPM is just racist, nut case theatrics.
    Greens all have a mental illness that defines them.
    Labour are a bunch of irrelevant dinosaurs past their
    use by date, hoping the Red Witch will come back spouting
    all that toxic rubbish that the EU has perfected.

    gb.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 4 13:35:55 2025
    On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 11:22:18 +1200, greybeard <nobody@nowhere.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 3/07/25 10:35, Rich80105 wrote:
    https://newsroom.co.nz/2025/07/02/geoffrey-palmer-passing-regulatory-standards-bill-will-exact-high-political-price/

    Perhaps we should be thankful for each of the three government parties
    demonstrating how unfit for office they are - in their own ways they
    appear to know that the end is near - Luxon just wants photo-ops for
    the retirement he would rather not have; Peters and Jones just want
    more money for the retirement they know is coming, and Seymour is just
    doing what he is told. Three weak party "leaders", with no real
    leadership in any of them.

    Partly right. Lux is a nincompoop. His media stand-ups are pathetic.

    Lux, Peters and Collins have turned NZ Foreign Affairs into an
    international laughing stock, parroting all the crap narratives
    that Washington, Westminster and Canberra vomit. Lux just loves
    those photo-ops. What a dick!
    The real damage that Lux and Seymour have done is taken advantage of
    Nicola WIllis to divert money to landlords and overseas shareholders -
    leading to local projects being delayed making them much more
    expensive, especially as they stopped a lot of projects which led to
    much of our construction crews moving overseas. Canceling the ferry
    was all Nicola though - but perhaps that was designed to benefit
    Morgan Stanley Infrastructure Partners - much better from a Lux/Nicola perspective than investing in New Zealand . . .. Willis does
    apparently get economic advice from the NZ Initiative . . .


    Time for Shane Jones and David Seymour to step up.
    For what? They are linked to the Atlas Network, and know that to pull
    the plug on the coalition would just end their gravy train. Winston
    may still do it however to give him a "We will keep them honest"
    slogan for the next election . . .


    As for the 3 opposition parties, they're all clowns.
    TPM is just racist, nut case theatrics.
    Greens all have a mental illness that defines them.
    Labour are a bunch of irrelevant dinosaurs past their
    use by date, hoping the Red Witch will come back spouting
    all that toxic rubbish that the EU has perfected.
    To support local businesses, get unemployment down, and keep
    government debt down used to be goals that both National and Labour
    shared - National has given up - the only goal left for Luxon is to
    become Sir CLuxon . . .



    gb.

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  • From Crash@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 4 14:32:29 2025
    On Fri, 04 Jul 2025 13:35:55 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 11:22:18 +1200, greybeard <nobody@nowhere.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 3/07/25 10:35, Rich80105 wrote:
    https://newsroom.co.nz/2025/07/02/geoffrey-palmer-passing-regulatory-standards-bill-will-exact-high-political-price/

    Perhaps we should be thankful for each of the three government parties
    demonstrating how unfit for office they are - in their own ways they
    appear to know that the end is near - Luxon just wants photo-ops for
    the retirement he would rather not have; Peters and Jones just want
    more money for the retirement they know is coming, and Seymour is just
    doing what he is told. Three weak party "leaders", with no real
    leadership in any of them.

    Partly right. Lux is a nincompoop. His media stand-ups are pathetic.

    Lux, Peters and Collins have turned NZ Foreign Affairs into an >>international laughing stock, parroting all the crap narratives
    that Washington, Westminster and Canberra vomit. Lux just loves
    those photo-ops. What a dick!
    The real damage that Lux and Seymour have done is taken advantage of
    Nicola WIllis to divert money to landlords and overseas shareholders - >leading to local projects being delayed making them much more
    expensive, especially as they stopped a lot of projects which led to
    much of our construction crews moving overseas.

    What fanciful political rhetoric - none of which is true unless you
    can cite specific instances.

    Canceling the ferry
    was all Nicola though - but perhaps that was designed to benefit
    Morgan Stanley Infrastructure Partners - much better from a Lux/Nicola >perspective than investing in New Zealand . . .. Willis does
    apparently get economic advice from the NZ Initiative . . .

    Damn good advice to. Labour approved the purchase of Ferries that
    could not use and existing docking facilities. The cost blew out when
    port facilities had to be upgraded beyond normal maintenance to berth
    the new ferries. The project started out as a Ferry upgrade, but
    morphed into port rebuilds with new Ferries thrown in.


    Time for Shane Jones and David Seymour to step up.
    For what?

    Agreed.

    They are linked to the Atlas Network, and know that to pull
    the plug on the coalition would just end their gravy train. Winston
    may still do it however to give him a "We will keep them honest"
    slogan for the next election . . .


    As for the 3 opposition parties, they're all clowns.
    TPM is just racist, nut case theatrics.
    Greens all have a mental illness that defines them.
    Labour are a bunch of irrelevant dinosaurs past their
    use by date, hoping the Red Witch will come back spouting
    all that toxic rubbish that the EU has perfected.
    To support local businesses, get unemployment down, and keep
    government debt down used to be goals that both National and Labour
    shared - National has given up - the only goal left for Luxon is to
    become Sir CLuxon . . .



    gb.


    --
    Crash McBash

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 4 04:25:42 2025
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 20:27:44 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 07:07:27 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 00:36:37 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>https://newsroom.co.nz/2025/07/02/geoffrey-palmer-passing-regulatory-standards-bill-will-exact-high-political-price/

    Perhaps we should be thankful for each of the three government parties >>>>>>>demonstrating how unfit for office they are - in their own ways they >>>>>>>appear to know that the end is near - Luxon just wants photo-ops for >>>>>>>the retirement he would rather not have; Peters and Jones just want >>>>>>>more money for the retirement they know is coming, and Seymour is just >>>>>>>doing what he is told. Three weak party "leaders", with no real >>>>>>>leadership in any of them.
    I've suggested more than once before that you really shouldn't try to >>>>>>post
    humour, your jokes just don't seem to have class.

    Keep on topic Rich or do your usual copwardly run n' hide.
    Some of us have a life, Tony - if I am away I do not post. You on the >>>other hand literally cut posts you cannot understand or do not like - >>>that is a real cowardly cut and run . . .
    No, that is my right when facing a selfish, opinionated, politically obsessed >>moron like you.
    Abuse gone.

    Abuse gone

    So back to the Regulatory Standards Bill - it will cost a huge amount
    of money for reviews that are already taking place in government
    departments - we will pay twice for the same work - it will slow down >legislation until it gets Seymour's approval; Seymour will be able to
    delay anything he does not like and over-ride parliament - and you
    agree with that?
    I have not addressed that here, only your stupidity. But what you just wrote seem to be stupid also.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 4 22:06:33 2025
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 04:25:42 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 20:27:44 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 07:07:27 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 00:36:37 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>https://newsroom.co.nz/2025/07/02/geoffrey-palmer-passing-regulatory-standards-bill-will-exact-high-political-price/

    Perhaps we should be thankful for each of the three government parties >>>>>>>>>demonstrating how unfit for office they are - in their own ways they >>>>>>>>>appear to know that the end is near - Luxon just wants photo-ops for >>>>>>>>>the retirement he would rather not have; Peters and Jones just want >>>>>>>>>more money for the retirement they know is coming, and Seymour is just >>>>>>>>>doing what he is told. Three weak party "leaders", with no real >>>>>>>>>leadership in any of them.
    I've suggested more than once before that you really shouldn't try to >>>>>>>>post
    humour, your jokes just don't seem to have class.

    Keep on topic Rich or do your usual copwardly run n' hide.
    Some of us have a life, Tony - if I am away I do not post. You on the >>>>>other hand literally cut posts you cannot understand or do not like - >>>>>that is a real cowardly cut and run . . .
    No, that is my right when facing a selfish, opinionated, politically >>>>obsessed
    moron like you.
    Abuse gone.
    Abuse gone, The idiot Rich believes he knows how others think, he doesn't - he is beyond hyelp.


    Abuse gone

    So back to the Regulatory Standards Bill - it will cost a huge amount
    of money for reviews that are already taking place in government >>>departments - we will pay twice for the same work - it will slow down >>>legislation until it gets Seymour's approval; Seymour will be able to >>>delay anything he does not like and over-ride parliament - and you
    agree with that?
    I have not addressed that here, only your stupidity. But what you just wrote >>seem to be stupid also.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Sat Jul 5 09:24:37 2025
    On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 04:25:42 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 20:27:44 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 07:07:27 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 00:36:37 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>https://newsroom.co.nz/2025/07/02/geoffrey-palmer-passing-regulatory-standards-bill-will-exact-high-political-price/

    Perhaps we should be thankful for each of the three government parties >>>>>>>>demonstrating how unfit for office they are - in their own ways they >>>>>>>>appear to know that the end is near - Luxon just wants photo-ops for >>>>>>>>the retirement he would rather not have; Peters and Jones just want >>>>>>>>more money for the retirement they know is coming, and Seymour is just >>>>>>>>doing what he is told. Three weak party "leaders", with no real >>>>>>>>leadership in any of them.
    I've suggested more than once before that you really shouldn't try to >>>>>>>post
    humour, your jokes just don't seem to have class.

    Keep on topic Rich or do your usual copwardly run n' hide.
    Some of us have a life, Tony - if I am away I do not post. You on the >>>>other hand literally cut posts you cannot understand or do not like - >>>>that is a real cowardly cut and run . . .
    No, that is my right when facing a selfish, opinionated, politically obsessed
    moron like you.
    Abuse gone.
    Clearly you do not know yourself, Tony. You appear to have a similar
    level of self-awareness as CLuxon - enough to fool yourself but not
    enough to give confidence to anyone else - one of those dim bulbs that
    thinks deleting words covers up your own weakness - it fails.


    Abuse gone

    So back to the Regulatory Standards Bill - it will cost a huge amount
    of money for reviews that are already taking place in government >>departments - we will pay twice for the same work - it will slow down >>legislation until it gets Seymour's approval; Seymour will be able to
    delay anything he does not like and over-ride parliament - and you
    agree with that?
    I have not addressed that here, only your stupidity. But what you just wrote >seem to be stupid also.

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