https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/in-depth/566354/new-kiwirail-director-scott-o-donnell-linked-to-nz-first-donation-government-loan

https://theintegrityinstitute.substack.com/p/integrity-briefing-government-decisions

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Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/in-depth/566354/new-kiwirail-director-scott-o-donnell-linked-to-nz-first-donation-government-loan

https://theintegrityinstitute.substack.com/p/integrity-briefing-government-decisions

It is neither. There is a management plan in place, a common and well proven method of keeping things clean.
If only such a plan existed between the left wing parties and the unions but hey that would be balanced so therefore not of interest eh?
Another Rich post that defies logic

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On Sun, 13 Jul 2025 20:53:52 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/in-depth/566354/new-kiwirail-director-scott-o-donnell-linked-to-nz-first-donation-government-loan

https://theintegrityinstitute.substack.com/p/integrity-briefing-government-decisions

It is neither. There is a management plan in place, a common and well proven >method of keeping things clean.
If only such a plan existed between the left wing parties and the unions but >hey that would be balanced so therefore not of interest eh?
Another Rich post that defies logic

Certainly your response defies logic, Tony - did you even read either
article? A political donation of $20,000 gets a loan of up to $8.2
million from Shane Jones - knowing that the money would be used in
competition with an alternative proposal being considered by other
Ministers, that would not have needed government funding. Then Winston
Peters appointed the chairman of Dynes Transport to the board of
KiwiRail - a clear conflict of interest, not assuaged by O'Donnell
stepping down as Chair of Dynes.

From the second article:
"When the individual events in this case — the donation, the failed application, the discretionary loan, and the board appointment — are
viewed not in isolation but as a connected sequence, they paint a
stark picture of a public integrity system under significant strain.
Their cumulative effect creates an overwhelming appearance of a quid
pro quo arrangement that undermines core principles of good
governance.

Recently, the Auditor-General has released his report on such
conflicts of interest relating to the Fast Track Approvals Act.
Reporting on this today, RNZ’s Farah Hancock says that the
Auditor-General was careful to draw a distinction between government
decisions that confer a “generalised benefit” on a wide group (e.g., a
tax change for an entire industry) and those decisions that provide a
“tangibly benefit” to a specific party donor.

In terms of this, the Dynes Transport news is a textbook example of a government decision conferring a direct and “tangible benefit” on a
political donor, precisely the scenario the Auditor-General warned
creates significant risks to public integrity. He recommends that
systemic reform in this regard, especially so that donations to
parties are classed as possible conflicts of interest for Cabinet
decisions.

In general, there needs to be an overhaul of the conflict-of-interest management procedures, which are increasingly found to be wanting. The
current regime relies too heavily on ministerial self-policing and
allows for weak “management plans” that are performative rather than substantive."

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Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jul 2025 20:53:52 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/in-depth/566354/new-kiwirail-director-scott-o-donnell-linked-to-nz-first-donation-government-loan

https://theintegrityinstitute.substack.com/p/integrity-briefing-government-decisions

It is neither. There is a management plan in place, a common and well proven >>method of keeping things clean.
If only such a plan existed between the left wing parties and the unions but >>hey that would be balanced so therefore not of interest eh?
Another Rich post that defies logic

Certainly your response defies logic, Tony - did you even read either >article? Surplus nonsense gone.

Did you read the article Rich? I suggest you do and refer to what I wrote. There is a process - it is mentioned in the article. Read the damn article yourself.

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On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 00:42:46 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jul 2025 20:53:52 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/in-depth/566354/new-kiwirail-director-scott-o-donnell-linked-to-nz-first-donation-government-loan

https://theintegrityinstitute.substack.com/p/integrity-briefing-government-decisions

It is neither. There is a management plan in place, a common and well proven >>>method of keeping things clean.
If only such a plan existed between the left wing parties and the unions but >>>hey that would be balanced so therefore not of interest eh?
Another Rich post that defies logic

Certainly your response defies logic, Tony - did you even read either >>article? Surplus nonsense gone.

Did you read the article Rich? I suggest you do and refer to what I wrote. >There is a process - it is mentioned in the article. Read the damn article >yourself.

I do apologise, Tony; clearly I was going a little fast for you - I
know you delete things that get you confused..

So first, yes I agree with you that there is a process in place - I
don't think it is called a management plan though.

Two quick questions for you:
1. Is that process fit for purpose?
2. Was what happened crony capitalism or corruption?

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Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 00:42:46 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jul 2025 20:53:52 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/in-depth/566354/new-kiwirail-director-scott-o-donnell-linked-to-nz-first-donation-government-loan

https://theintegrityinstitute.substack.com/p/integrity-briefing-government-decisions

It is neither. There is a management plan in place, a common and well >>>>proven
method of keeping things clean.
If only such a plan existed between the left wing parties and the unions >>>>but
hey that would be balanced so therefore not of interest eh?
Another Rich post that defies logic

Certainly your response defies logic, Tony - did you even read either >>>article? Surplus nonsense gone.

Did you read the article Rich? I suggest you do and refer to what I wrote. >>There is a process - it is mentioned in the article. Read the damn article >>yourself.

Abuse gone.

So first, yes I agree with you that there is a process in place - I
don't think it is called a management plan though.

I am not surprised, you don't seem to know anything of value.

Two quick questions for you:
1. Is that process fit for purpose?

SO far as I know - so why don't you tell me?

2. Was what happened crony capitalism or corruption?

Not proven as such and therefore you are shown to be lying again. Just your shabby childish attempts at politics.

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On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 01:58:54 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 00:42:46 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jul 2025 20:53:52 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/in-depth/566354/new-kiwirail-director-scott-o-donnell-linked-to-nz-first-donation-government-loan

https://theintegrityinstitute.substack.com/p/integrity-briefing-government-decisions

It is neither. There is a management plan in place, a common and well >>>>>proven
method of keeping things clean.
If only such a plan existed between the left wing parties and the unions >>>>>but
hey that would be balanced so therefore not of interest eh?
Another Rich post that defies logic

Certainly your response defies logic, Tony - did you even read either >>>>article? Surplus nonsense gone.

Did you read the article Rich? I suggest you do and refer to what I wrote. >>>There is a process - it is mentioned in the article. Read the damn article >>>yourself.

Abuse gone.

So first, yes I agree with you that there is a process in place - I
don't think it is called a management plan though.

I am not surprised, you don't seem to know anything of value.

I was correct - it is apparently a “conflict-of-interest management
plan” - substantially meaningless, so that is consistent with your
arguments as well Tony . . .

"It has to be pointed out that Winston Peters has announced that a “conflict-of-interest management plan” has been established with
Treasury and the new KiwiRail Chair, Sue Tindal. The core of this plan
is that O’Donnell will “recuse himself from KiwiRail activities in
this part of New Zealand,” specified as being “primarily south of
Oamaru”. This management plan is substantively meaningless and fails
the most basic tests of propriety. It certainly does nothing to
resolve the underlying conflict of fiduciary duty while allowing the
conflicted director to participate in the vast majority of strategic discussions that will materially affect his private interests."

Two quick questions for you:
1. Is that process fit for purpose?

SO far as I know - so why don't you tell me?

Just read the references you have been given - no it is not fit for
purpose

2. Was what happened crony capitalism or corruption?

Not proven as such and therefore you are shown to be lying again. Just your >shabby childish attempts at politics.

Of course you would say that - if there have not been criminal charges
it is all OK - that has always been the mantra of the far-right. When
the best investment a company can make is a donation to a political
party, regardless of the legal position, New Zealanders will see this
as both crony capitalism and corruption - as well as confirmation that
we have a Prime Minister that has not a clue about what is going on
and just doesn't care - after all, he is entitled to his entitlement,
and that is all that matters . . .

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Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 01:58:54 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 00:42:46 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jul 2025 20:53:52 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/in-depth/566354/new-kiwirail-director-scott-o-donnell-linked-to-nz-first-donation-government-loan

https://theintegrityinstitute.substack.com/p/integrity-briefing-government-decisions

It is neither. There is a management plan in place, a common and well >>>>>>proven
method of keeping things clean.
If only such a plan existed between the left wing parties and the unions >>>>>>but
hey that would be balanced so therefore not of interest eh?
Another Rich post that defies logic

Certainly your response defies logic, Tony - did you even read either >>>>>article? Surplus nonsense gone.

Did you read the article Rich? I suggest you do and refer to what I wrote. >>>>There is a process - it is mentioned in the article. Read the damn article >>>>yourself.

Abuse gone.

So first, yes I agree with you that there is a process in place - I
don't think it is called a management plan though.

I am not surprised, you don't seem to know anything of value.

I was correct

You are totally wrong.

- it is apparently a “conflict-of-interest management
plan” - substantially meaningless, so that is consistent with your
arguments as well Tony . . .

Of course it is not meaningless - it managers conflicts of interest. QED.
That is what it is for. Capiche dickhead?

"It has to be pointed out that Winston Peters has announced that a >“conflict-of-interest management plan” has been established with
Treasury and the new KiwiRail Chair, Sue Tindal. The core of this plan
is that O’Donnell will “recuse himself from KiwiRail activities in
this part of New Zealand,” specified as being “primarily south of
Oamaru”. This management plan is substantively meaningless and fails
the most basic tests of propriety. It certainly does nothing to
resolve the underlying conflict of fiduciary duty while allowing the >conflicted director to participate in the vast majority of strategic >discussions that will materially affect his private interests."

An opinion, as worthless as you.

Two quick questions for you:
1. Is that process fit for purpose?

SO far as I know - so why don't you tell me?

Just read the references you have been given - no it is not fit for
purpose

No thanks. You are wrong.

2. Was what happened crony capitalism or corruption?

Not proven as such and therefore you are shown to be lying again. Just your >>shabby childish attempts at politics.

Abuse gone. Do try harder.

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