• Fwd: Re: [telecom]

    From Michael Trew@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 31 16:16:34 2023
    Relevant article; Forwarded from comp.dcom.telecom


    -------- Original Message --------
    Subject: Re: [telecom] Little rewards get people to see truth in
    politically unfavorable info
    Date: 30 Mar 2023 15:27:27 +0000
    From: Fred Atkinson <fatkinson@mishmash.com>
    Organization: The Telecom Digest
    Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
    References: <053FE15A-BF7F-4EA9-AA88-5C62A80F641A@roscom.com>

    While I was working as a radio technician for Duke Power Company in
    North Carolina] it used to amaze me as to the massive amounts of
    misinformation that CB users were spreading around. Mostly, it was
    about radio theory. I will share three of the many stories I heard.

    We had stopped for lunch at a truck stop one day. One of my
    colleagues found somebody installing a power mike on his mobile CB
    unit. When he asked the fellow why he was doing that, he said that by
    putting more audio into the radio, he would get more power out of it.

    When my colleague explained to him that this was not true, the guy
    replied, "Oh, no. All of the CBers are doing it. And they are
    getting a lot more power out.". So, my colleague gave up on trying to
    explain it to the guy. He was clearly hopeless.

    We ran into one fellow who had actually installed the truckers'
    antennas on a Volkswagen Fastback. There was absolutely no way this
    was going to work as those two antennas have to be spaced wide enough
    apart to work properly. He told me that the truckers antennas
    'prevented messing up your SWR (standing wave ratio) when you have a
    'huge metallic load' behind you'. Another hopeless radio expert.

    There was no point in sharing your expertise with them. They would
    always believe other CB users before they would believe experienced
    and well trained FCC-licensed radio technicians.

    An amateur radio operator I knew told me that he was trying to help a
    CB user upgrade to amateur radio. At first, he thought the guy might
    be worthy of his effort.

    When the guy told him that he was only putting out one and a quarter
    watts out of his CB radio because he had a quarter wave antenna (five
    watts times one quarter wave), he totally gave up on helping the guy.

    And there are many other true stories like these. I just couldn't
    believe the massive amounts of misinformation they were spreading.
    So many of them appointed themselves radio experts.

    It wasn't long after I worked as a radio technician that I totally
    gave up on trying to correct their misinformation. It was a lost
    cause.

    Regards,

    Fred Atkinson


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  • From Jim Mueller@21:1/5 to Michael Trew on Sat Apr 1 05:04:47 2023
    On Fri, 31 Mar 2023 16:16:34 -0400, Michael Trew wrote:

    Relevant article; Forwarded from comp.dcom.telecom


    -------- Original Message --------
    Subject: Re: [telecom] Little rewards get people to see truth in
    politically unfavorable info Date: 30 Mar 2023 15:27:27 +0000 From: Fred Atkinson <fatkinson@mishmash.com>
    Organization: The Telecom Digest Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
    References: <053FE15A-BF7F-4EA9-AA88-5C62A80F641A@roscom.com>

    While I was working as a radio technician for Duke Power Company in
    North Carolina] it used to amaze me as to the massive amounts of misinformation that CB users were spreading around. Mostly, it was
    about radio theory. I will share three of the many stories I heard.

    We had stopped for lunch at a truck stop one day. One of my colleagues
    found somebody installing a power mike on his mobile CB unit. When he
    asked the fellow why he was doing that, he said that by putting more
    audio into the radio, he would get more power out of it.

    When my colleague explained to him that this was not true, the guy
    replied, "Oh, no. All of the CBers are doing it. And they are getting
    a lot more power out.". So, my colleague gave up on trying to explain
    it to the guy. He was clearly hopeless.

    We ran into one fellow who had actually installed the truckers' antennas
    on a Volkswagen Fastback. There was absolutely no way this was going to
    work as those two antennas have to be spaced wide enough apart to work properly. He told me that the truckers antennas 'prevented messing up
    your SWR (standing wave ratio) when you have a 'huge metallic load'
    behind you'. Another hopeless radio expert.

    There was no point in sharing your expertise with them. They would
    always believe other CB users before they would believe experienced and
    well trained FCC-licensed radio technicians.

    An amateur radio operator I knew told me that he was trying to help a CB
    user upgrade to amateur radio. At first, he thought the guy might be
    worthy of his effort.

    When the guy told him that he was only putting out one and a quarter
    watts out of his CB radio because he had a quarter wave antenna (five
    watts times one quarter wave), he totally gave up on helping the guy.

    And there are many other true stories like these. I just couldn't
    believe the massive amounts of misinformation they were spreading.
    So many of them appointed themselves radio experts.

    It wasn't long after I worked as a radio technician that I totally gave
    up on trying to correct their misinformation. It was a lost cause.

    Regards,

    Fred Atkinson

    Every CBer knows that you should run RG-8 coax for lower loss, but the
    last few feet before the antenna should be RG-58 so that the signal
    forcing it's way through the smaller cable would make it squirt out
    farther.



    --
    Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com

    To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eggmen.
    Then replace nospam with expressmail. Lastly, replace com with dk.

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  • From MarkS@21:1/5 to Jim Mueller on Tue Apr 18 08:36:32 2023
    On Saturday, April 1, 2023 at 1:04:50 AM UTC-4, Jim Mueller wrote:
    On Fri, 31 Mar 2023 16:16:34 -0400, Michael Trew wrote:

    Relevant article; Forwarded from comp.dcom.telecom


    -------- Original Message --------
    Subject: Re: [telecom] Little rewards get people to see truth in politically unfavorable info Date: 30 Mar 2023 15:27:27 +0000 From: Fred Atkinson <fatk...@mishmash.com>
    Organization: The Telecom Digest Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
    References: <053FE15A-BF7F-4EA9...@roscom.com>

    While I was working as a radio technician for Duke Power Company in
    North Carolina] it used to amaze me as to the massive amounts of misinformation that CB users were spreading around. Mostly, it was
    about radio theory. I will share three of the many stories I heard.

    We had stopped for lunch at a truck stop one day. One of my colleagues found somebody installing a power mike on his mobile CB unit. When he asked the fellow why he was doing that, he said that by putting more
    audio into the radio, he would get more power out of it.

    When my colleague explained to him that this was not true, the guy replied, "Oh, no. All of the CBers are doing it. And they are getting
    a lot more power out.". So, my colleague gave up on trying to explain
    it to the guy. He was clearly hopeless.

    We ran into one fellow who had actually installed the truckers' antennas on a Volkswagen Fastback. There was absolutely no way this was going to work as those two antennas have to be spaced wide enough apart to work properly. He told me that the truckers antennas 'prevented messing up
    your SWR (standing wave ratio) when you have a 'huge metallic load'
    behind you'. Another hopeless radio expert.

    There was no point in sharing your expertise with them. They would
    always believe other CB users before they would believe experienced and well trained FCC-licensed radio technicians.

    An amateur radio operator I knew told me that he was trying to help a CB user upgrade to amateur radio. At first, he thought the guy might be worthy of his effort.

    When the guy told him that he was only putting out one and a quarter
    watts out of his CB radio because he had a quarter wave antenna (five watts times one quarter wave), he totally gave up on helping the guy.

    And there are many other true stories like these. I just couldn't
    believe the massive amounts of misinformation they were spreading.
    So many of them appointed themselves radio experts.

    It wasn't long after I worked as a radio technician that I totally gave
    up on trying to correct their misinformation. It was a lost cause.

    Regards,

    Fred Atkinson
    Every CBer knows that you should run RG-8 coax for lower loss, but the
    last few feet before the antenna should be RG-58 so that the signal
    forcing it's way through the smaller cable would make it squirt out
    farther.



    --
    Jim Mueller wron...@nospam.com

    To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eggmen.
    Then replace nospam with expressmail. Lastly, replace com with dk.

    Ahhh CB'rs; This here's the Duck! Never had one but they were all around in the 70's. Some of these nuts were running around with these ridiculous linears. Wonder if ever got caught.

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