Hello All,

I recently picked up a circa 1965 Packard Bell color console TV 21CK4. The chassis is 98c8, I believe. I've been excited for an old 21" color
roundie tube for some time, and I drove quite a distance to haul it
home. Anyway, I'm bummed to find that it appears the flyback
transformer is burned up.

I brought the set up very slowly through the resistance of an inline incandescent bulb filament (of varying wattages). Hours and hours
later, as soon as I plugged in the horizontal output tube, it started
making magic smoke from the flyback. At least, it made a pretty spark
show, if nothing else.

I think the set is worth saving. Although it appears to be a rather high hour set, it looks like it has a newer picture tube. I'd love to
get it going again. Does anyone have a lead on a flyback for a set of
this vintage? I'm told an RCA color flyback from the same era could
likely be modified in.

Thanks!

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Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> wrote in news:673a3be8$18$2786 $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

Hello All,

I recently picked up a circa 1965 Packard Bell color console TV 21CK4. The chassis is 98c8, I believe. I've been excited for an old 21" color roundie tube for some time, and I drove quite a distance to haul it
home. Anyway, I'm bummed to find that it appears the flyback
transformer is burned up.

I brought the set up very slowly through the resistance of an inline incandescent bulb filament (of varying wattages). Hours and hours
later, as soon as I plugged in the horizontal output tube, it started
making magic smoke from the flyback. At least, it made a pretty spark
show, if nothing else.

I think the set is worth saving. Although it appears to be a rather high hour set, it looks like it has a newer picture tube. I'd love to
get it going again. Does anyone have a lead on a flyback for a set of
this vintage? I'm told an RCA color flyback from the same era could
likely be modified in.

Thanks!

Good quesstion. I'm glad you are resurecting the old set. My suggestion is
to ask local amature radio people in your area or in the USENET groups. They might have experience with equipment of that era.

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On 11/17/2024 9:43 PM, David LaRue wrote:

Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> wrote in news:673a3be8$18$2786 $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

I recently picked up a circa 1965 Packard Bell color console TV 21CK4. >> The chassis is 98c8, I believe. I've been excited for an old 21" color
roundie tube for some time, and I drove quite a distance to haul it
home. Anyway, I'm bummed to find that it appears the flyback
transformer is burned up.

Good quesstion. I'm glad you are resurecting the old set. My suggestion is to ask local amature radio people in your area or in the USENET groups. They might have experience with equipment of that era.

Thank you! Do you have a suggestion on any Usenet groups of the like
which are still alive? I used to shadow this group circa 2015/16 and it
was far more active back then, I was sad to see so little activity here
in the last few years. I have made a post on a Facebook group as well.

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Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> wrote in news:673b487a$1$3620717$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

On 11/17/2024 9:43 PM, David LaRue wrote:

Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> wrote in news:673a3be8$18$2786
$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

I recently picked up a circa 1965 Packard Bell color console TV
21CK4.
The chassis is 98c8, I believe. I've been excited for an old 21"
color roundie tube for some time, and I drove quite a distance to haul
it home. Anyway, I'm bummed to find that it appears the flyback
transformer is burned up.

Good quesstion. I'm glad you are resurecting the old set. My
suggestion is to ask local amature radio people in your area or in the
USENET groups. They might have experience with equipment of that era.

Thank you! Do you have a suggestion on any Usenet groups of the like
which are still alive? I used to shadow this group circa 2015/16 and it
was far more active back then, I was sad to see so little activity here
in the last few years. I have made a post on a Facebook group as well.

I am not sure how you can reliably locate a ham in your area. A live
person in touch with the community could likely work wonders finding
someone with the experience you need.

I didn't find a suitable contact at www.arrl.org, but that doesn't mean
one doesn't exist. That is for the Amateur Radio Relay League web site
which is an organization that has a large membership of active hams.

Try subscribing to rec.radio.amateur.* on your News Server and post to
those groups.

The sci.electronics.repair group might have someone that could help you.

Google for "GRARC" - Great River Amateur Radio Club... and follow the
possible contacts there. An email is listed for w0dbq.grarc@gmail.com
that might be active. That appears to be an email for the local
transponder operated by that group.

I was a member of this local group back in the 70s-80s. They had a
wonderful group of Amature Extras with a wealth of knowledge and technical expertise. We met monthly back then at a Fire House in downtown Dubuque,
Iowa. Perhaps they will hear your call for assistance.

Try asking a local electronics repair person. Even a good computer repair
shop might be able to give you some help locating someone in your
community.

Let me know what you find. Now I'm curious.

David, formerly known as WB0UAP

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On 11/18/2024 12:04 PM, David LaRue wrote:

Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> wrote in news:673b487a$1$3620717$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

On 11/17/2024 9:43 PM, David LaRue wrote:

Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> wrote in news:673a3be8$18$2786
$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

I recently picked up a circa 1965 Packard Bell color console TV >>>> 21CK4.
The chassis is 98c8, I believe. I've been excited for an old 21"
color roundie tube for some time, and I drove quite a distance to haul >>>> it home. Anyway, I'm bummed to find that it appears the flyback
transformer is burned up.

Good quesstion. I'm glad you are resurecting the old set. My
suggestion is to ask local amature radio people in your area or in the
USENET groups. They might have experience with equipment of that era.

Thank you! Do you have a suggestion on any Usenet groups of the like
which are still alive? I used to shadow this group circa 2015/16 and it
was far more active back then, I was sad to see so little activity here
in the last few years. I have made a post on a Facebook group as well.

I am not sure how you can reliably locate a ham in your area. A live
person in touch with the community could likely work wonders finding
someone with the experience you need.

I didn't find a suitable contact at www.arrl.org, but that doesn't mean
one doesn't exist. That is for the Amateur Radio Relay League web site
which is an organization that has a large membership of active hams.

Try subscribing to rec.radio.amateur.* on your News Server and post to
those groups.

The sci.electronics.repair group might have someone that could help you.

Google for "GRARC" - Great River Amateur Radio Club... and follow the possible contacts there. An email is listed for w0dbq.grarc@gmail.com
that might be active. That appears to be an email for the local
transponder operated by that group.

I was a member of this local group back in the 70s-80s. They had a
wonderful group of Amature Extras with a wealth of knowledge and technical expertise. We met monthly back then at a Fire House in downtown Dubuque, Iowa. Perhaps they will hear your call for assistance.

Try asking a local electronics repair person. Even a good computer repair shop might be able to give you some help locating someone in your
community.

Let me know what you find. Now I'm curious.

David, formerly known as WB0UAP

I bought a house in town here several years back (eastern Ohio), and the
old fellow left some of his amateur radio equipment behind. I should
have kept it, but it was all given away.

His call was K8JEZ ... Even though the house is no longer in my
possession, and it's been torn down for 5 years, through my time owning
it and tearing down walls trying to rehabilitate it, I found so many
places he signed his name with that call sign within the walls over the
decades that he lived there. K8JEZ, I just can't forget it.

I'll check in with some of those other groups when I get some free time.
I'll be sure to check back with this group eventually, thank you.

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On Sun, 17 Nov 2024 13:54:25 -0500, Michael Trew wrote:

Hello All,

I recently picked up a circa 1965 Packard Bell color console TV

21CK4.

The chassis is 98c8, I believe. I've been excited for an old 21" color roundie tube for some time, and I drove quite a distance to haul it
home. Anyway, I'm bummed to find that it appears the flyback
transformer is burned up.

I brought the set up very slowly through the resistance of an

inline

incandescent bulb filament (of varying wattages). Hours and hours
later, as soon as I plugged in the horizontal output tube, it started
making magic smoke from the flyback. At least, it made a pretty spark
show, if nothing else.

I think the set is worth saving. Although it appears to be a

rather

high hour set, it looks like it has a newer picture tube. I'd love to
get it going again. Does anyone have a lead on a flyback for a set of
this vintage? I'm told an RCA color flyback from the same era could
likely be modified in.

Thanks!

There's an antique television museum somewhere in the eastern part of the country, possibly Ohio. They can probably give you information or
possibly supply parts.

There's also the Antique Radio Forum, https://antiqueradios.com/forums/.
They have a television sub-group with several old-time repair people as
well as younger enthusiasts. You will have to make an account and it will
have to be approved to post a question. But you can read older posts
without an account. The forums are moderated so be sure to read the
rules.



--
Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com

To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eggmen.
Then replace nospam with expressmail. Lastly, replace com with dk.

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Jim Mueller <wrongname@nospam.com> writes:

There's an antique television museum somewhere in the eastern part of the country, possibly Ohio.

That's probably the Early Television Museum, in Hilliard, Ohio: http://earlytelevision.org/

They do monthly online Zoom meetings (posted on YouTube afterwards) that
often include interesting presentations; well worth a look.

--
Adam Sampson <ats@offog.org> <http://offog.org/>

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On 11/19/2024 9:37 PM, Jim Mueller wrote:

There's an antique television museum somewhere in the eastern part of the country, possibly Ohio. They can probably give you information or
possibly supply parts.

There's also the Antique Radio Forum, https://antiqueradios.com/forums/.
They have a television sub-group with several old-time repair people as
well as younger enthusiasts. You will have to make an account and it will have to be approved to post a question. But you can read older posts
without an account. The forums are moderated so be sure to read the
rules.

I think Hilliard is near Columbus... I live just over 2 hours away in
Eastern Ohio. Thanks, I didn't realize that museum was close enough for
a day trip. I'll take a look at that forum also.

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