• Re: MT VOID, 02/07/25 -- Vol. 43, No. 32, Whole Number 2366

    From Paul Dormer@21:1/5 to Evelyn C. Leeper on Sun Feb 9 16:36:00 2025
    In article <voaf0v$md3b$1@dont-email.me>, evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com (Evelyn C. Leeper) wrote:

    (But then later it discusses MUNCHHAUSEN (THE ADVENTURES
    OF BARON MUNCHAUSEN) (1943), clearly a fantasy. MUNCHHAUSEN is
    available on Hoopla and Kanopy.)

    Munchausen turned up on the BBC about the time the Terry Gilliam version
    came out. I bought it on DVD a while after. A great opening sequence
    which completely had me fooled.

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  • From Gary McGath@21:1/5 to Evelyn C. Leeper on Mon Feb 10 10:48:50 2025
    On 2/9/25 9:44 AM, Evelyn C. Leeper wrote:

    It discusses, for example, how the use of various optical tricks
    and techniques promoted the idea pf illusions, of a permeable
    border between reality and unreality, of the unsureness of one's
    own perceptions.

    There was a lot of that in pre-Nazi German cinema as well. _The Cabinet
    of Dr. Caligari_ is the most obvious example.

    There were no horror films or fantasy, the film says, because
    there was enough horor, and because the Third Reich was built on
    fantasy.  (But then later it discusses MUNCHHAUSEN (THE ADVENTURES
    OF BARON MUNCHAUSEN) (1943), clearly a fantasy. MUNCHHAUSEN is
    available on Hoopla and Kanopy.)

    The script for Münchhausen was written by Erich Kaestner under a
    pseudonym. Kaestner's writing was banned under the Nazis. I don't know
    why exactly, but in the kids' novel _Emil and the Detectives_, one of
    the sympathetic characters says, "Bist du meschuggah?" suggesting the
    character is Jewish.

    Of these films, and of the Third Reich in general, Hannah Arendt
    said, "What convinces masses are not facts, not even invented
    facts, but only the consistency of the illusion."

    Yes, and it's not just "masses" but even smart people who are
    susceptible to repetition of claims.


    --
    Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com

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  • From Paul Dormer@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 11 11:21:00 2025
    In article <vod752$196t0$1@dont-email.me>, garym@mcgath.com (Gary McGath) wrote:


    The script for Münchhausen was written by Erich Kaestner under a
    pseudonym.

    It's also said that the film was commissioned by Goebbels, not only the propaganda minister but also the head of the UFA studios for its 25th anniversary. Kaestner and the director Josef von Báky decided on
    Munchhausen as he was an even bigger liar than Goebbels.

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