• LITF (black boxes)

    From Keith F. Lynch@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 8 13:04:58 2025
    The actor Gene Hackman and his wife were discovered dead at their home
    in Santa Fe on February 27th. They had both obviously been dead for a
    while. But for how long?

    Much of forensic science is pseudoscience, as proven by the large
    number of people "proven guilty" by forensics but later proven
    innocent by DNA. But some of it is valid, including DNA itself.
    (Though DNA evidence can be misleading. Look up the Phantom of
    Heilbronn.)

    In plane crashes, we can tell who died at impact and who died in
    the following fire by whether there was any soot in their lungs.
    Similarly if the crash was in water and some drowned, by whether
    they had water in their lungs.

    Speaking of plane crashes, it was possible to tell which indicator
    lights were on at the instant of impact because the way incandescent
    filaments shatter is different if they're hot than if they're cold.

    But the main way we know what happened in recent plane crashes is from
    the planes' "black boxes" -- cockpit voice recorders and flight data
    recorders, both of which are actually orange. It's just as well,
    since indicator lights are no longer incandescent.

    In today's news, I learned that we do know Hackman's exact time of
    death. It was on February 18th. How do we know? From his "black
    box." He had an implanted pacemaker. Like most modern electronics,
    it's computerized, with plenty of data storage.

    You know we're Living In The Future when people have built-in black
    boxes.

    We don't know the time of his wife's death, except that it was after
    the last time she was seen on February 11th. It's believed that she
    died several days before her husband did, probably of Hantavirus, and
    that the lack of her daily care of him contributed to his death. (He
    had Alzheimer's.)

    A dog also died, presumably because it was in a cage and couldn't
    reach food. Two uncaged dogs survived.

    Getting back to plane crashes, the NTSB was able to recover data from
    the heavily damaged cockpit voice recorder of very violent recent Lear
    Jet crash in Philadelphia. But it turned out to be useless, due to
    lack of maintenance. It hadn't been turned on in years, so all the
    data was from a much earlier flight. Technology can't compensate for incompetence or laziness.

    (Gene Hackman is not to be confused with Larry Hagman, a different
    deceased actor.)
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  • From Scott Dorsey@21:1/5 to Keith F. Lynch on Sat Mar 8 13:15:46 2025
    Keith F. Lynch <kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote:
    (Gene Hackman is not to be confused with Larry Hagman, a different
    deceased actor.)

    Who shot J.R. anyway?
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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  • From Keith F. Lynch@21:1/5 to Scott Dorsey on Sat Mar 8 18:47:01 2025
    Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
    Keith F. Lynch <kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote:
    (Gene Hackman is not to be confused with Larry Hagman, a different
    deceased actor.)

    Who shot J.R. anyway?

    Maggie. Unless I'm confusing Dallas with its Simpsons spoof.

    But Hagman will always be Tony Nelson to me.
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  • From Mike Van Pelt@21:1/5 to Scott Dorsey on Sat Mar 8 18:58:29 2025
    In article <vqi1gi$9db$1@panix2.panix.com>,
    Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
    Who shot J.R. anyway?

    The writers. The writers shot J.R.

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    mvp at calweb.com | -- Ray Wilkinson, after riding out Hurricane
    KE6BVH | Ike on Surfside Beach in Galveston

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  • From Gary McGath@21:1/5 to Mike Van Pelt on Sat Mar 8 15:18:35 2025
    On 3/8/25 1:58 PM, Mike Van Pelt wrote:
    In article <vqi1gi$9db$1@panix2.panix.com>,
    Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
    Who shot J.R. anyway?

    The writers. The writers shot J.R.


    I thought it was the camera crew.

    --
    Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com

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