• Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid

    From Gary McGath@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 16 17:23:08 2025
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    It's now official, though not surprising: The 2027 Worldcon will be in
    Montreal on September 2-6. I like this since I can drive there in a day, assuming crossing the border is still feasible in 2027.

    https://file770.com/montreal-in-2027-worldcon-bid-wins-site-selection-vote/
    --
    Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com

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  • From Dorothy J Heydt@21:1/5 to petertrei@gmail.com on Sun Aug 17 03:19:57 2025
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    In article <107r9cb$20l36$3@dont-email.me>,
    Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 8/16/2025 5:23 PM, Gary McGath wrote:
    It's now official, though not surprising: The 2027 Worldcon will be in
    Montreal on September 2-6. I like this since I can drive there in a day,
    assuming crossing the border is still feasible in 2027.

    https://file770.com/montreal-in-2027-worldcon-bid-wins-site-selection-vote/

    I may well do so too.

    [Hal Heydt]
    I'm considering combining going to the Pennsic War, visiting my
    son & his family in New York, my sister in Boston, and Montreal
    for the WorldCon. All by rail. For the return, I'd consider
    taking the Candadian run west.

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to Gary McGath on Sun Aug 17 11:39:01 2025
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    Gary McGath wrote:

    It's now official, though not surprising: The 2027 Worldcon
    will be in Montreal on September 2-6. I like this since I can
    drive there in a day, assuming crossing the border is still
    feasible in 2027.

    If a certain person had their way there would be no border! ;-)

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  • From Keith F. Lynch@21:1/5 to Paul Dormer on Sun Aug 17 15:53:54 2025
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    Paul Dormer <prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk> wrote:
    garym@mcgath.com (Gary McGath) wrote:
    It's now official, though not surprising: The 2027 Worldcon will
    be in Montreal on September 2-6. I like this since I can drive
    there in a day, assuming crossing the border is still feasible in
    2027.

    I decided a couple of years ago, no more flying. Train travel much
    mote relaxing and nice scenery, too. (And I don't drive.)

    I know it's possible to take a train from the UK through the Chunnel
    to Europe, and presumably also to Asia. But unfortunately, there's no
    railroad tunnel or bridge between Siberia and Alaska, so I doubt you
    can get the whole way to Montreal by rail.

    Maybe plans for such a connection were discussed at the recent Alaska
    summit meeting. That way something productive would have come from it.
    --
    Keith F. Lynch - http://keithlynch.net/
    Please see http://keithlynch.net/email.html before emailing me.

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  • From Paul Dormer@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 17 16:22:00 2025
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    In article <107qsrs$1ucf8$1@dont-email.me>, garym@mcgath.com (Gary McGath) wrote:

    It's now official, though not surprising: The 2027 Worldcon will be
    in Montreal on September 2-6. I like this since I can drive there in
    a day, assuming crossing the border is still feasible in 2027.

    I decided a couple of years ago, no more flying. Train travel much mote relaxing and nice scenery, too. (And I don't drive.)

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  • From Scott Dorsey@21:1/5 to Evelyn C. Leeper on Sun Aug 17 17:59:35 2025
    XPost: rec.music.filk

    In article <107ssdf$2c7jk$1@dont-email.me>,
    Evelyn C. Leeper <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 8/17/25 11:22 AM, Paul Dormer wrote:
    In article <107qsrs$1ucf8$1@dont-email.me>, garym@mcgath.com (Gary McGath) >> wrote:

    It's now official, though not surprising: The 2027 Worldcon will be
    in Montreal on September 2-6. I like this since I can drive there in
    a day, assuming crossing the border is still feasible in 2027.

    I decided a couple of years ago, no more flying. Train travel much mote
    relaxing and nice scenery, too. (And I don't drive.)

    Neither does my friend in Massachusetts, but if we decide to go, I'll
    drive four hours to her place; hang out overnight, then drive four hours
    with her to Montreal.

    It took four hours in the site selection meeting in order for them to
    decide on Montreal even though they were running unopposed. It was a
    miracle of bureaucracy! Your drive may take no longer!
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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  • From Dorothy J Heydt@21:1/5 to petertrei@gmail.com on Sun Aug 17 22:46:16 2025
    XPost: rec.music.filk

    In article <107tdpd$2isca$1@dont-email.me>,
    Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 8/17/2025 2:58 PM, Evelyn C. Leeper wrote:
    On 8/17/25 11:53 AM, Keith F. Lynch wrote:
    Paul Dormer <prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk> wrote:
    garym@mcgath.com (Gary McGath) wrote:
    It's now official, though not surprising:  The 2027 Worldcon will
    be in Montreal on September 2-6.  I like this since I can drive
    there in a day, assuming crossing the border is still feasible in
    2027.

    I decided a couple of years ago, no more flying.  Train travel much
    mote relaxing and nice scenery, too.  (And I don't drive.)

    I know it's possible to take a train from the UK through the Chunnel
    to Europe, and presumably also to Asia.  But unfortunately, there's no
    railroad tunnel or bridge between Siberia and Alaska, so I doubt you
    can get the whole way to Montreal by rail.

    Maybe plans for such a connection were discussed at the recent Alaska
    summit meeting.  That way something productive would have come from it.

    Apparently you can travel from the UK to America by train.

    America, Netherlands, that is.


    I'm trying to work on a joke itinerary involving the land border
    between Denmark and Canada, but haven't come up with something.

    [Hal Heydt]
    You used to be able to do a trip like that from Greenland to
    Canada. Peter Fruechen made that trip. Probably much harder
    now. A lot less ice in the winter.

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  • From Keith F. Lynch@21:1/5 to Evelyn C. Leeper on Sun Aug 17 22:33:10 2025
    XPost: rec.music.filk

    Evelyn C. Leeper <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> wrote:
    Cryptoengineer wrote:
    I'm trying to work on a joke itinerary involving the land border
    between Denmark and Canada, but haven't come up with something.

    There's a Denmark in New York, but it's not on the border, and the
    border between it is a river.

    I live in Vienna. I've never been to Austria.

    There really is a land border between Denmark and Canada. It's on a
    small uninhabited island that those two nations share.
    --
    Keith F. Lynch - http://keithlynch.net/
    Please see http://keithlynch.net/email.html before emailing me.

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  • From Gary McGath@21:1/5 to Keith F. Lynch on Sun Aug 17 20:12:11 2025
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    On 8/17/25 11:53 AM, Keith F. Lynch wrote:

    I know it's possible to take a train from the UK through the Chunnel
    to Europe, and presumably also to Asia. But unfortunately, there's no railroad tunnel or bridge between Siberia and Alaska, so I doubt you
    can get the whole way to Montreal by rail.

    Maybe plans for such a connection were discussed at the recent Alaska
    summit meeting. That way something productive would have come from it.

    I don't think you can get to the Russian side of the Bering Strait by
    rail. About the closest you can get is Yakutsk.

    --
    Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com

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  • From Keith F. Lynch@21:1/5 to Gary McGath on Mon Aug 18 01:49:27 2025
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    Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> wrote:
    I don't think you can get to the Russian side of the Bering Strait
    by rail. About the closest you can get is Yakutsk.

    That's what Putin wants you to think. Sarah Palin will be very
    surprised when the Russians invade her state by rail. It is, after
    all, rightfully Russian territory. Seward cheated.
    --
    Keith F. Lynch - http://keithlynch.net/
    Please see http://keithlynch.net/email.html before emailing me.

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  • From Scott Dorsey@21:1/5 to Evelyn C. Leeper on Sun Aug 17 21:50:09 2025
    XPost: rec.music.filk

    Evelyn C. Leeper <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> wrote:

    There's a Denmark in New York, but it's not on the border, and the
    border between it is a river.

    Is there something rotten there?
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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  • From Keith F. Lynch@21:1/5 to Scott Dorsey on Mon Aug 18 02:19:12 2025
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    Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
    Evelyn C. Leeper <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> wrote:
    There's a Denmark in New York, but it's not on the border, and the
    border between it is a river.

    Is there something rotten there?

    You are William Shakespeare, AICMFP.
    --
    Keith F. Lynch - http://keithlynch.net/
    Please see http://keithlynch.net/email.html before emailing me.

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  • From Paul Dormer@21:1/5 to Lynch on Mon Aug 18 17:22:00 2025
    XPost: rec.music.filk

    In article <107stui$8pf$1@reader1.panix.com>, kfl@KeithLynch.net (Keith F. Lynch) wrote:

    UK through the Chunnel

    That name never caught on, it's always the Channel tunnel.

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  • From Keith F. Lynch@21:1/5 to Paul Dormer on Mon Aug 18 18:18:16 2025
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    Paul Dormer <prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk> wrote:
    kfl@KeithLynch.net (Keith F. Lynch) wrote:
    UK through the Chunnel

    That name never caught on, it's always the Channel tunnel.

    In that case, it's just as well that a tunnel under the Bering Strait
    has never been built. I would have embarrassed myself by calling it
    the Strunnell.
    --
    Keith F. Lynch - http://keithlynch.net/
    Please see http://keithlynch.net/email.html before emailing me.

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  • From Gary McGath@21:1/5 to Paul Dormer on Mon Aug 18 17:27:35 2025
    XPost: rec.music.filk

    On 8/18/25 12:22 PM, Paul Dormer wrote:
    In article <107tlb6$3bb$1@reader1.panix.com>, kfl@KeithLynch.net (Keith F. Lynch) wrote:

    I live in Vienna. I've never been to Austria.

    I spent my 70th birthday in the original Vienna having Wiener schnitzel.

    I once had a hamburger in Hamburg.

    --
    Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com

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  • From Scott Dorsey@21:1/5 to garym@mcgath.com on Mon Aug 18 18:04:48 2025
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    Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> wrote:
    On 8/18/25 12:22 PM, Paul Dormer wrote:
    In article <107tlb6$3bb$1@reader1.panix.com>, kfl@KeithLynch.net (Keith F. >> Lynch) wrote:

    I live in Vienna. I've never been to Austria.

    I spent my 70th birthday in the original Vienna having Wiener schnitzel.

    I once had a hamburger in Hamburg.

    Is the next one on the bucket list to have a frankfurter in Frankfort?
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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  • From Keith F. Lynch@21:1/5 to Scott Dorsey on Mon Aug 18 22:27:34 2025
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    Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
    Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> wrote:
    I once had a hamburger in Hamburg.

    I'm reminded of _Violent Is the Word for Curly_, a 1938 Three Stooges
    short in which a professor says he plans to return to Hamburg on the
    Clipper. Curly, mishearing it, says he never heard of a hamburger
    with a zipper. It's noteworthy as containing the first-ever music
    video. It can be viewed for free on YouTube.

    Is the next one on the bucket list to have a frankfurter in Frankfort?

    Wouldn't it make more sense to have a frankfurter in Frankfurt?
    (Frankfurt is a city in Germany. Frankfort is the capital of
    Kentucky.)
    --
    Keith F. Lynch - http://keithlynch.net/
    Please see http://keithlynch.net/email.html before emailing me.

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  • From Scott Dorsey@21:1/5 to Keith F. Lynch on Mon Aug 18 20:12:02 2025
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    Keith F. Lynch <kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote:
    Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
    Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> wrote:
    I once had a hamburger in Hamburg.

    I'm reminded of _Violent Is the Word for Curly_, a 1938 Three Stooges
    short in which a professor says he plans to return to Hamburg on the
    Clipper. Curly, mishearing it, says he never heard of a hamburger
    with a zipper. It's noteworthy as containing the first-ever music
    video. It can be viewed for free on YouTube.

    Is the next one on the bucket list to have a frankfurter in Frankfort?

    Wouldn't it make more sense to have a frankfurter in Frankfurt?
    (Frankfurt is a city in Germany. Frankfort is the capital of
    Kentucky.)

    That's much farther away. You might as well have chili in Chile if
    you're going to do that.
    -scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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  • From Gary McGath@21:1/5 to Scott Dorsey on Mon Aug 18 21:18:53 2025
    On 8/18/25 8:12 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
    Keith F. Lynch <kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote:
    Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
    Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> wrote:
    I once had a hamburger in Hamburg.


    Is the next one on the bucket list to have a frankfurter in Frankfort?

    Wouldn't it make more sense to have a frankfurter in Frankfurt?
    (Frankfurt is a city in Germany. Frankfort is the capital of
    Kentucky.)

    That's much farther away. You might as well have chili in Chile if
    you're going to do that.

    Having a Berliner in Berlin is more difficult. That name for a pastry
    similar to the American jelly doughnut is a regional one, and I'm told
    it isn't much used in Berlin. For that and other reasons, JFK's audience
    wasn't confused.

    --
    Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com

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  • From Keith F. Lynch@21:1/5 to Evelyn C. Leeper on Tue Aug 19 01:28:01 2025
    XPost: rec.music.filk

    Evelyn C. Leeper <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> wrote:
    Apparently there are groups promoting the idea
    of a Bering Strait Tunnel
    (<https://www.intercontinentalrailway.com> and <https://www.interbering.com>), among others.

    YASID: I seem to recall an old SF story about such a construction project.
    It discovered ancient remains of a similar project, which proved to be the results of time travel. Does anyone recall this? Thanks.
    --
    Keith F. Lynch - http://keithlynch.net/
    Please see http://keithlynch.net/email.html before emailing me.

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  • From Keith F. Lynch@21:1/5 to Gary McGath on Tue Aug 19 01:36:24 2025
    Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> wrote:
    Having a Berliner in Berlin is more difficult. That name for a
    pastry similar to the American jelly doughnut is a regional one, and
    I'm told it isn't much used in Berlin. For that and other reasons,
    JFK's audience wasn't confused.

    Yes, unlike President Carter's audience in Warsaw. His translator was immediately fired.
    --
    Keith F. Lynch - http://keithlynch.net/
    Please see http://keithlynch.net/email.html before emailing me.

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  • From Scott Dorsey@21:1/5 to garym@mcgath.com on Mon Aug 18 23:51:10 2025
    Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> wrote:

    Having a Berliner in Berlin is more difficult. That name for a pastry
    similar to the American jelly doughnut is a regional one, and I'm told
    it isn't much used in Berlin. For that and other reasons, JFK's audience >wasn't confused.

    Perhaps, but I did have a Berlinerweisse in Berlin.
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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  • From Keith F. Lynch@21:1/5 to Evelyn C. Leeper on Tue Aug 19 15:05:22 2025
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    Evelyn C. Leeper <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> wrote:
    Keith F. Lynch wrote:
    Evelyn C. Leeper <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> wrote:
    Apparently there are groups promoting the idea
    of a Bering Strait Tunnel
    (<https://www.intercontinentalrailway.com> and
    <https://www.interbering.com>), among others.

    YASID: I seem to recall an old SF story about such a construction project. >> It discovered ancient remains of a similar project, which proved to be the >> results of time travel. Does anyone recall this? Thanks.

    As they say, "DuckDuckGo is your friend." "Subterrestrial" by
    Michael McBride.

    Whatever it was, I read it decades ago. Maybe someone sent that story
    back through time?

    Also, a friend of mine described Forward's _Dragon's Egg_ to me in the
    '70s. It wasn't written until the '80s.
    --
    Keith F. Lynch - http://keithlynch.net/
    Please see http://keithlynch.net/email.html before emailing me.

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  • From Paul Dormer@21:1/5 to Dorsey on Tue Aug 19 17:01:00 2025
    XPost: rec.music.filk

    In article <1080fgi$se6$1@panix3.panix.com>, kludge@panix.com (Scott
    Dorsey) wrote:


    Wouldn't it make more sense to have a frankfurter in Frankfurt?
    (Frankfurt is a city in Germany. Frankfort is the capital of
    Kentucky.)

    That's much farther away. You might as well have chili in Chile if
    you're going to do that.

    Not for me it isn't.

    As it happened, I spent a few days in Frankfurt on my way back from
    Vienna. Didn't have any frankfurters, though.

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  • From Gary McGath@21:1/5 to Paul Dormer on Tue Aug 19 21:34:46 2025
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    On 8/19/25 12:01 PM, Paul Dormer wrote:
    In article <1080fgi$se6$1@panix3.panix.com>, kludge@panix.com (Scott
    Dorsey) wrote:


    Wouldn't it make more sense to have a frankfurter in Frankfurt?
    (Frankfurt is a city in Germany. Frankfort is the capital of
    Kentucky.)

    That's much farther away. You might as well have chili in Chile if
    you're going to do that.

    Not for me it isn't.

    As it happened, I spent a few days in Frankfurt on my way back from
    Vienna. Didn't have any frankfurters, though.

    For me, the shortest trip of this kind would be to have a sandwich in
    Sandwich, NH, possibly on rye bread from Rye, NH.

    --
    Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com

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  • From Gary McGath@21:1/5 to Scott Dorsey on Wed Aug 20 02:41:05 2025
    On 8/18/25 11:51 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
    Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> wrote:

    Having a Berliner in Berlin is more difficult. That name for a pastry
    similar to the American jelly doughnut is a regional one, and I'm told
    it isn't much used in Berlin. For that and other reasons, JFK's audience
    wasn't confused.

    Perhaps, but I did have a Berlinerweisse in Berlin.

    You could also have a sandwich in Hawaii. (Points to anyone who knows why.)

    --
    Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com

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  • From Kerr-Mudd, John@21:1/5 to Gary McGath on Wed Aug 20 11:21:00 2025
    On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 02:41:05 -0400
    Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> wrote:

    On 8/18/25 11:51 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
    Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> wrote:

    Having a Berliner in Berlin is more difficult. That name for a pastry
    similar to the American jelly doughnut is a regional one, and I'm told
    it isn't much used in Berlin. For that and other reasons, JFK's audience >> wasn't confused.

    Perhaps, but I did have a Berlinerweisse in Berlin.

    You could also have a sandwich in Hawaii. (Points to anyone who knows why.)

    Ah, back when Britannia ruled the waves.

    Don't expect to get anything other than a blank stare if you ask for an
    English Muffin in England.

    (Muffin the Mule was a different thing, but not an illegal offence).

    --
    Bah, and indeed Humbug.

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  • From Scott Dorsey@21:1/5 to garym@mcgath.com on Wed Aug 20 08:09:26 2025
    In article <1083qm1$6463$1@dont-email.me>,
    Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> wrote:
    On 8/18/25 11:51 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
    Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> wrote:

    Having a Berliner in Berlin is more difficult. That name for a pastry
    similar to the American jelly doughnut is a regional one, and I'm told
    it isn't much used in Berlin. For that and other reasons, JFK's audience >>> wasn't confused.

    Perhaps, but I did have a Berlinerweisse in Berlin.

    You could also have a sandwich in Hawaii. (Points to anyone who knows why.)

    And sadly, a Hawaiian Punch also.
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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  • From Paul Dormer@21:1/5 to John on Wed Aug 20 13:27:00 2025
    In article <20250820112100.fc2b19c1c33ccf4eb24060b8@127.0.0.1>,
    admin@127.0.0.1 (Kerr-Mudd, John) wrote:


    Don't expect to get anything other than a blank stare if you ask for
    an
    English Muffin in England.

    In my family in the fifties, we used muffin and crumpet interchangeably
    for crumpets. Never came across and English muffin till my first visit
    to the US in 1980, but, it turned out, they were by then stocked in
    British supermarkets.



    (Muffin the Mule was a different thing, but not an illegal offence).

    A favourite of mine in the fifties, and the puppeteers behind him did a
    show in my town in the mid-sixties.

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  • From Gary McGath@21:1/5 to Evelyn C. Leeper on Wed Aug 20 10:52:17 2025
    On 8/20/25 7:37 AM, Evelyn C. Leeper wrote:
    On 8/20/25 2:41 AM, Gary McGath wrote:
    On 8/18/25 11:51 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
    Gary McGath  <garym@mcgath.com> wrote:
    Perhaps, but I did have a Berlinerweisse in Berlin.

    You could also have a sandwich in Hawaii. (Points to anyone who knows
    why.)

    It's earl-y, but I still know this one.

    In NJ we have Egg Harbor and, if you stretch it, Cranbury.


    After you've made all these stops, you can finish with Eaton, New Hampshire.

    --
    Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com

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  • From Dorothy J Heydt@21:1/5 to garym@mcgath.com on Wed Aug 20 14:37:18 2025
    In article <1083qm1$6463$1@dont-email.me>,
    Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> wrote:
    On 8/18/25 11:51 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
    Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> wrote:

    Having a Berliner in Berlin is more difficult. That name for a pastry
    similar to the American jelly doughnut is a regional one, and I'm told
    it isn't much used in Berlin. For that and other reasons, JFK's audience >>> wasn't confused.

    Perhaps, but I did have a Berlinerweisse in Berlin.

    You could also have a sandwich in Hawaii. (Points to anyone who knows why.)

    [Hal Heydt]
    One would hope that one would be pretty well known in these
    circles.

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  • From Paul Dormer@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 20 16:41:00 2025
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    In article <10838nm$2c8t$1@dont-email.me>, garym@mcgath.com (Gary McGath) wrote:


    For me, the shortest trip of this kind would be to have a sandwich in Sandwich, NH, possibly on rye bread from Rye, NH.

    I don't know how far Sandwich is to you, but Sandwich in Kent is about
    140km due east of here. (I presume it is the one associated with the
    Earl of Sandwich, after whom the snack is named. Rye is a bit closer, in
    East Sussex,

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  • From Keith F. Lynch@21:1/5 to Paul Dormer on Wed Aug 20 16:56:43 2025
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    Paul Dormer <prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk> wrote:
    I don't know how far Sandwich is to you, but Sandwich in Kent is
    about 140km due east of here. (I presume it is the one associated
    with the Earl of Sandwich, after whom the snack is named.

    I wouldn't assume that, since British titles are often held by different
    people at different times. But on looking it up, I see that you're right.
    The food was named for the 4th Earl, whom the Hawaiian islands were also
    named for.

    But the Earl was named for Sandwich in Kent, not vice versa.

    I recently emailed Gary:

    >> Here's a trivia question for you: A river and a town in Virginia
    >> are named for James I. But he's better known for his edition of
    >> the Bible. What, if anything, has been named for James II?

    > Was it the Jacobites?

    Yes and no. They supported him, then his son who was also named
    James, then his grandson Charles. But I was thinking of something
    in the US.

    Hint: It's often not obvious from the name who something is named
    for. The state I live in was named for Elizabeth I, the state to my
    immediate south was named for Charles I, and the state to my immediate
    north was named for Herietta Maria. That state's largest city is
    named for Cecil Calvert. The Australian state named for Queen
    Alexandrina has a capital city named for William Lamb. The capital
    of New Zealand was named for Arthur Wellesly.

    He got the correct answer, though I didn't mention that every city I
    mentioned has hosted a Worldcon.
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  • From Joy Beeson@21:1/5 to Scott Dorsey on Wed Aug 20 23:11:45 2025
    XPost: rec.music.filk

    On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 18:04:48 -0400 (EDT), kludge@panix.com
    (Scott Dorsey) wrote:

    Is the next one on the bucket list to have a frankfurter in Frankfort?

    I grew up 12.3 miles from Frankfort, but I don't think I
    ever had a hot dog actually in the town. At one 4-H event,
    I walked around a huge pile of brush looking for a fire that
    was exactly right for toasting a weenie. I don't remember
    anything but hamburgers and tenderloins at urban eateries.

    A brief perusal of Google Maps strongly suggests that if
    want to have a bowl of chili in Chili, I will have to be
    invited into someone's home. There doesn't seem to be so
    much as a public gazebo or even a parking place where one
    could open a thermos.

    --
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  • From Tim Merrigan@21:1/5 to Joy Beeson on Thu Aug 21 06:50:45 2025
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    On 8/20/2025 8:11 PM, Joy Beeson wrote:
    A brief perusal of Google Maps strongly suggests that if
    want to have a bowl of chili in Chili, I will have to be
    invited into someone's home. There doesn't seem to be so
    much as a public gazebo or even a parking place where one
    could open a thermos.

    Well, considering that chili is a Tex/Mex concoction…

    I've heard it was invented by Hungarian immigrants trying to make
    goulash with local ingredients.

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  • From Jay Morris@21:1/5 to Tim Merrigan on Thu Aug 21 11:04:06 2025
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    On 8/21/2025 8:50 AM, Tim Merrigan wrote:
    On 8/20/2025 8:11 PM, Joy Beeson wrote:
    A brief perusal of Google Maps strongly suggests that if
    want to have a bowl of chili in Chili, I will have to be
    invited into someone's home.  There doesn't seem to be so
    much as a public gazebo or even a parking place where one
    could open a thermos.

    Well, considering that chili is a Tex/Mex concoction…

    I've heard it was invented by Hungarian immigrants trying to make
    goulash with local ingredients.

    ....
    San Antonio is widely considered the birthplace of chili con carne, with
    strong ties to the city's Canary Islander population and the "Chili
    Queens" who sold it in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. While the
    exact origins are debated, the influence of Canary Islanders who settled
    in San Antonio in 1731, bringing with them spices and cooking techniques
    from their homeland, is a key part of the story.

    Here's a more detailed breakdown:
    1. Canary Islander Influence:

    In 1731, families from the Canary Islands were recruited to settle
    in San Antonio, forming a community that became influential in the
    city's business and political landscape.

    They brought with them culinary traditions, including the use of cumin
    and a style of stewing meat with chili peppers, garlic, and wild onions,
    which closely resembles Moroccan Berber cooking.
    This distinctive blend of spices and ingredients is believed to be a foundational element of early chili recipes.

    2. The Chili Queens:

    In the late 1800s and early 1900s, "Chili Queens" became a popular
    fixture in San Antonio, particularly in Military Plaza.

    These women, mostly of Mexican descent, sold chili con carne from
    outdoor stalls, attracting locals and travelers with their engaging personalities and flavorful dishes.
    Their chili was typically all beef, with no beans, and was often served
    with tamales and enchiladas, becoming a defining part of San Antonio's
    Tex-Mex culinary identity.
    ....

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  • From Keith F. Lynch@21:1/5 to John Ames on Sat Aug 23 20:19:41 2025
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    John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> wrote:
    Jay Morris <morrisj@epsilon3.me> wrote:
    Here's a more detailed breakdown:
    1. Canary Islander Influence: ...

    Had never heard about this before. Fascinating!

    One of my favorite trick questions involves that island chain.

    What kind of animal were they named for?
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  • From Tim Merrigan@21:1/5 to Keith F. Lynch on Sat Aug 23 16:07:13 2025
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    On 8/23/2025 1:19 PM, Keith F. Lynch wrote:
    John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> wrote:
    Jay Morris <morrisj@epsilon3.me> wrote:
    Here's a more detailed breakdown:
    1. Canary Islander Influence: ...

    Had never heard about this before. Fascinating!

    One of my favorite trick questions involves that island chain.

    What kind of animal were they named for?

    Canus, of course.

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