On Jan 23, 2025 at 11:30:50 AM PST, "Noah Carter" <smythlejofffn2@hotmail.com> wrote:

Trump’s Immigration Plans Are Already Wrecking the Food Industry
Jan 22

Fear of increased ICE raids have already negatively affected the nation's
agricultural sector, causing alarm that food prices could skyrocket in the >> near future as a result of Donald Trump's aggressive immigration policies.

"Without illegals, who will pick the blueberries?"

Well, Karen, let's start with your jobless 22-year-old, blue-haired, Reddit-addicted trans son with a degree in Intersectional Queerness who lives in your basement?

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BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

. . .

"Without illegals, who will pick the blueberries?"

Can I point out for the 1,342nd time on Usenet that itinerant
agricultural laborers are NOT immigrants, legal or otherwise. They are
admitted into the United States as such, follow the harvesting from one
farm to the next. Their wages are not defined as earned income for the
purpose of the tax code. They are ineligible for Social Security
pensions and Medicare and are not issued SSNs. They leave the United
States when there is no more harvesting to be performed.

If they don't leave, only then do they become illegal.

Farmers successfully lobbied for this special treatment decades ago.

Well, Karen, let's start with your jobless 22-year-old, blue-haired, >Reddit-addicted trans son with a degree in Intersectional Queerness who lives >in your basement?

That's a scary image. Lemme check to see if my basement is so infested.

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BTR1701 wrote:

On Jan 23, 2025 at 11:30:50 AM PST, "Noah Carter" <smythlejofffn2@hotmail.com> wrote:

Trump’s Immigration Plans Are Already Wrecking the Food
Industry Jan 22

Fear of increased ICE raids have already negatively
affected the nation's agricultural sector, causing alarm
that food prices could skyrocket in the near future as a
result of Donald Trump's aggressive immigration
policies.

"Without illegals, who will pick the blueberries?"

Well, Karen, let's start with your jobless 22-year-old,
blue-haired, Reddit-addicted trans son with a degree in
Intersectional Queerness who lives in your basement?

I don't have any problem getting my blueberries picked
each summer.

I just let a couple neighbors know "if ya want 'em, come
pick 'em" and the problem is solved.

Nyssa, who has more problems keeping the mockingbirds
from picking them before they're ripe so the humans can
pick them when they are ripe

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suzeeq wrote:

On 3/1/2025 7:28 AM, Nyssa wrote:

BTR1701 wrote:

On Jan 23, 2025 at 11:30:50 AM PST, "Noah Carter"
<smythlejofffn2@hotmail.com> wrote:

Trump’s Immigration Plans Are Already Wrecking the
Food Industry Jan 22

Fear of increased ICE raids have already negatively
affected the nation's agricultural sector, causing
alarm that food prices could skyrocket in the near
future as a result of Donald Trump's aggressive
immigration policies.

"Without illegals, who will pick the blueberries?"

Well, Karen, let's start with your jobless 22-year-old,
blue-haired, Reddit-addicted trans son with a degree in
Intersectional Queerness who lives in your basement?

I don't have any problem getting my blueberries picked
each summer.

I just let a couple neighbors know "if ya want 'em, come
pick 'em" and the problem is solved.

Nyssa, who has more problems keeping the mockingbirds
from picking them before they're ripe so the humans can
pick them when they are ripe

Right but you probably don't have a couple hundred acres
of them.

Nope, but I know a farm near me does. They offer pick-it-
yourself and pre-picked to customers, with the self-picked
ones being a bit cheaper. Ditto during strawberry season.

Wnen I lived in SE MI, the local berry farms would hire
school kids to pick fruit after school and on weekends,
and regular hours during the summer.

Worked out fine for the kids, earning extra pocket money,
and since the kids were locals, if any of them had caused
trouble, their parents could be counted on to straighten
them out.

I guess these days the school kids either aren't capable
of that kind of thing or laws have changed to make it
harder for the farms to hire them. :/

Nyssa, who figures today's kids wouldn't be interested
in a job unless they could play with their iPhones while
they semi-worked

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On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 14:30:43 -0800, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

. . .

"Without illegals, who will pick the blueberries?"

Can I point out for the 1,342nd time on Usenet that itinerant
agricultural laborers are NOT immigrants, legal or otherwise. They are admitted into the United States as such, follow the harvesting from one
farm to the next. Their wages are not defined as earned income for the purpose of the tax code. They are ineligible for Social Security
pensions and Medicare and are not issued SSNs. They leave the United
States when there is no more harvesting to be performed.

If they don't leave, only then do they become illegal.

Yet again you mislead. Our primary news sources, that set the
standards in political language, the New York Times and the
Associated Press, etc., have banned any such terms as illegal immigrants.
All guest workers, as you are describing, legal or illegal, as
well as any sort of overstaying visas, with or without
permanent intent, as well as actual immigrants, legal or
otherwise, are all swallowed up into the single term "immigrant"
and the "New Republic" definitely falls into the "immigration is
always good" category of mainstream journalism.

Farmers successfully lobbied for this special treatment decades ago.

The immigration lobby scored this success, the lobby you say does not
exist.

Well, Karen, let's start with your jobless 22-year-old, blue-haired, Reddit-addicted trans son with a degree in Intersectional Queerness who lives
in your basement?

Could happen, but he'd need more of his kind on the
fields so he could feel comfortable; farm labor is
notoriously trans-phobic.

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Nyssa@logicalinsight.net wrote:

suzeeq wrote:

On 3/1/2025 7:28 AM, Nyssa wrote:

BTR1701 wrote:

"Noah Carter" <smythlejofffn2@hotmail.com> wrote:

Trump’s Immigration Plans Are Already Wrecking the
Food Industry Jan 22

Fear of increased ICE raids have already negatively
affected the nation's agricultural sector, causing
alarm that food prices could skyrocket in the near
future as a result of Donald Trump's aggressive
immigration policies.

"Without illegals, who will pick the blueberries?"

Well, Karen, let's start with your jobless 22-year-old,
blue-haired, Reddit-addicted trans son with a degree in
Intersectional Queerness who lives in your basement?

I don't have any problem getting my blueberries picked
each summer.

I just let a couple neighbors know "if ya want 'em, come
pick 'em" and the problem is solved.

Nyssa, who has more problems keeping the mockingbirds
from picking them before they're ripe so the humans can
pick them when they are ripe

Right but you probably don't have a couple hundred acres
of them.

Nope, but I know a farm near me does. They offer pick-it-
yourself and pre-picked to customers, with the self-picked
ones being a bit cheaper. Ditto during strawberry season.

Wnen I lived in SE MI, the local berry farms would hire
school kids to pick fruit after school and on weekends,
and regular hours during the summer.

Worked out fine for the kids, earning extra pocket money,
and since the kids were locals, if any of them had caused
trouble, their parents could be counted on to straighten
them out.

Mom and her siblings all picked grapes for Welches at some point.

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have to audit liberals & wire tap reporters' phones.

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