Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
On 2/3/25 5:49 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
https://deadline.com/2025/02/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-reboot-sarah-michelle-gellar-hulu-pilot-chloe-zhao-1236273767/
‘Buffy The Vampire Slayer’ Reboot Starring Sarah Michelle Gellar Nears Hulu
Pilot Order With Chloé Zhao Directing
By Nellie Andreeva
February 3, 2025 12:30pm
More than two decades after Buffy the Vampire Slayer ended its seven-season >>> run, the beloved supernatural drama is eyeing a revival with a new chapter >>> in the franchise. A followup series is nearing a pilot order from Hulu,
with Sarah Michelle Gellar expected to star, reprising her signature role >>> as Buffy Summers, sources said. Oscar winner Chloé Zhao, a self-professed >>> lifelong Buffy fan, is set to direct the pilot, written by Nora and Lilla >>> Zuckerman (Poker Face).
The reboot hails from Buffy the Vampire Slayer studio 20th Television and >>> Disney sibling Searchlight TV where Zhao has been under a first-look deal. >>>
Beyond the pilot order, I hear the reboot is starting a writers room soon, >>> a sign that Hulu and the studios have high expectations for the project
going to series. It is unclear yet whether other original Buffy cast
members would return; that is considered likely.
Described as the next chapter in the Buffyverse,
Mostly by people who hadn’t read the authorized comic books
the new incarnation is
executive produced by Gellar, Zhao, Nora and Lilla Zuckerman as well as the >>> original series’ executive producers Gail Berman of the Jackal Group and >>> Fran Kuzui & Kaz Kuzui via Suite B.
Those dirty leeches will bleed this property till the end of time. Thanks, Directors union.
Also executive producing the pilot is
Dolly Parton whose company Sandollar was producer on the original.
Yikes!
Buffy creator Joss Whedon, who also wrote the 1992 movie the series was
based on, has no involvement in the reboot. He has not worked in Hollywood >>> in any official capacity since facing a slew of misconduct allegations in >>> 2021.
Duh.
Oh, the top of the link has a click about how they finally charged Neil Gayman with some really ugly stuff.
Well, this is better than Whedon's previous idea for a reboot.
I don’t know about that?
But I'm
skeptical about the whole thing until somebody proves to me otherwise.
(Like, a good start, would be ignoring the last 4 seasons of the
original series and all of "Angel"!! ;p )
I don’t see how it can possibly be a reboot if Geller is playing Buffy.
On 2/3/25 5:49 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
https://deadline.com/2025/02/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-reboot-sarah-
michelle-gellar-hulu-pilot-chloe-zhao-1236273767/
‘Buffy The Vampire Slayer’ Reboot Starring Sarah Michelle Gellar Nears >> Hulu
Pilot Order With Chloé Zhao Directing
By Nellie Andreeva
February 3, 2025 12:30pm
More than two decades after Buffy the Vampire Slayer ended its seven-
season
run, the beloved supernatural drama is eyeing a revival with a new
chapter
in the franchise. A followup series is nearing a pilot order from Hulu,
with Sarah Michelle Gellar expected to star, reprising her signature role
as Buffy Summers, sources said. Oscar winner Chloé Zhao, a self-professed >> lifelong Buffy fan, is set to direct the pilot, written by Nora and Lilla
Zuckerman (Poker Face).
The reboot hails from Buffy the Vampire Slayer studio 20th Television and
Disney sibling Searchlight TV where Zhao has been under a first-look
deal.
Beyond the pilot order, I hear the reboot is starting a writers room
soon,
a sign that Hulu and the studios have high expectations for the project
going to series. It is unclear yet whether other original Buffy cast
members would return; that is considered likely.
Described as the next chapter in the Buffyverse, the new incarnation is
executive produced by Gellar, Zhao, Nora and Lilla Zuckerman as well
as the
original series’ executive producers Gail Berman of the Jackal Group and >> Fran Kuzui & Kaz Kuzui via Suite B. Also executive producing the pilot is
Dolly Parton whose company Sandollar was producer on the original.
Yikes!
Buffy creator Joss Whedon, who also wrote the 1992 movie the series was
based on, has no involvement in the reboot. He has not worked in
Hollywood
in any official capacity since facing a slew of misconduct allegations in
2021.
Duh.
Well, this is better than Whedon's previous idea for a reboot. But I'm skeptical about the whole thing until somebody proves to me otherwise.
(Like, a good start, would be ignoring the last 4 seasons of the
original series and all of "Angel"!! ;p )
https://deadline.com/2025/02/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-reboot-sarah-michelle-gellar-hulu-pilot-chloe-zhao-1236273767/
BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER Reboot Starring Sarah Michelle Gellar Nears Hulu Pilot Order with Chloé Zhao Directing
More than two decades after BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER ended its seven-season run, the beloved supernatural drama is eyeing a revival with a new chapter
in the franchise. A followup series is nearing a pilot order from Hulu,
with Sarah Michelle Gellar expected to star, reprising her signature role
as Buffy Summers
Beyond the pilot order, I hear the reboot is starting a writers room soon,
a sign that Hulu and the studios have high expectations for the project
going to series. It is unclear yet whether other original Buffy cast
members would return; that is considered likely.
Buffy creator Joss Whedon, who also wrote the 1992 movie the series was
based on, has no involvement in the reboot. He has not worked in Hollywood
in any official capacity since facing a slew of misconduct allegations in 2021.
If the Hulu pilot goes to series, it would be the third in the franchise, following mothership Buffy the Vampire Slayer, which aired on the WB for
five seasons from 1997-2001 before dramatically moving to UPN for two more
Berman, Fran Kazui and Kaz Kazui previously teamed up with 20th TV in 2018 for a potential Buffy The Vampire Slayer reboot written by Midnight, Texas creator Monica Owusu-Breen, on which Whedon was an executive producer. That project, whose lead was envisioned as a black woman
I don’t see how it can possibly be a reboot if Geller is playing Buffy.
On 2/3/25 6:15 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
On 2/3/25 5:49 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
https://deadline.com/2025/02/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-reboot-sarah-michelle-gellar-hulu-pilot-chloe-zhao-1236273767/
‘Buffy The Vampire Slayer’ Reboot Starring Sarah Michelle Gellar
Nears Hulu
Pilot Order With Chloé Zhao Directing
By Nellie Andreeva
February 3, 2025 12:30pm
More than two decades after Buffy the Vampire Slayer ended its
seven-season
run, the beloved supernatural drama is eyeing a revival with a new
chapter
in the franchise. A followup series is nearing a pilot order from Hulu, >>>> with Sarah Michelle Gellar expected to star, reprising her signature
role
as Buffy Summers, sources said. Oscar winner Chloé Zhao, a
self-professed
lifelong Buffy fan, is set to direct the pilot, written by Nora and
Lilla
Zuckerman (Poker Face).
The reboot hails from Buffy the Vampire Slayer studio 20th
Television and
Disney sibling Searchlight TV where Zhao has been under a first-look
deal.
Beyond the pilot order, I hear the reboot is starting a writers room
soon,
a sign that Hulu and the studios have high expectations for the project >>>> going to series. It is unclear yet whether other original Buffy cast
members would return; that is considered likely.
Described as the next chapter in the Buffyverse,
Mostly by people who hadn’t read the authorized comic books
the new incarnation is
executive produced by Gellar, Zhao, Nora and Lilla Zuckerman as well
as the
original series’ executive producers Gail Berman of the Jackal Group >>>> and
Fran Kuzui & Kaz Kuzui via Suite B.
Those dirty leeches will bleed this property till the end of time.
Thanks,
Directors union.
Also executive producing the pilot is
Dolly Parton whose company Sandollar was producer on the original.
Yikes!
Buffy creator Joss Whedon, who also wrote the 1992 movie the series was >>>> based on, has no involvement in the reboot. He has not worked in
Hollywood
in any official capacity since facing a slew of misconduct
allegations in
2021.
Duh.
Oh, the top of the link has a click about how they finally charged Neil
Gayman with some really ugly stuff.
Yep. Heard about thiat.
Well, this is better than Whedon's previous idea for a reboot.
I don’t know about that?
It is.
But I'm
skeptical about the whole thing until somebody proves to me otherwise.
(Like, a good start, would be ignoring the last 4 seasons of the
original series and all of "Angel"!! ;p )
I don’t see how it can possibly be a reboot if Geller is playing Buffy.
"Reboot" is the wrong word. (Entertainment reporters are consistently mentally deficient, not knowing the basic meaning of the terms they use!)
If Gellar is playing "older Buffy" (and esp. if other "Buffy" cast
members return), this would be a "revival" not a "reboot".
Ian (One we know won't be returning is Amber Benson. I would put heavy
odds against either Eliza Dushku or Michelle Trachtenberg returning
either.)
https://deadline.com/2025/02/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-reboot-sarah-michelle-gellar-hulu-pilot-chloe-zhao-1236273767/
Buffy The Vampire Slayer Reboot Starring Sarah Michelle Gellar Nears Hulu >Pilot Order With Chlo Zhao Directing
By Nellie Andreeva
February 3, 2025 12:30pm
More than two decades after Buffy the Vampire Slayer ended its seven-season >run, the beloved supernatural drama is eyeing a revival with a new chapter
in the franchise. A followup series is nearing a pilot order from Hulu,
with Sarah Michelle Gellar expected to star, reprising her signature role
as Buffy Summers, sources said. Oscar winner Chlo Zhao, a self-professed >lifelong Buffy fan, is set to direct the pilot, written by Nora and Lilla >Zuckerman (Poker Face).
The reboot hails from Buffy the Vampire Slayer studio 20th Television and >Disney sibling Searchlight TV where Zhao has been under a first-look deal.
Beyond the pilot order, I hear the reboot is starting a writers room soon,
a sign that Hulu and the studios have high expectations for the project
going to series. It is unclear yet whether other original Buffy cast
members would return; that is considered likely.
On 2/3/25 6:15 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
On 2/3/25 5:49 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
https://deadline.com/2025/02/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-reboot-sarah-michelle-gellar-hulu-pilot-chloe-zhao-1236273767/
‘Buffy The Vampire Slayer’ Reboot Starring Sarah Michelle Gellar Nears Hulu
Pilot Order With Chloé Zhao Directing
By Nellie Andreeva
February 3, 2025 12:30pm
More than two decades after Buffy the Vampire Slayer ended its seven-season
run, the beloved supernatural drama is eyeing a revival with a new chapter >>>> in the franchise. A followup series is nearing a pilot order from Hulu, >>>> with Sarah Michelle Gellar expected to star, reprising her signature role >>>> as Buffy Summers, sources said. Oscar winner Chloé Zhao, a self-professed >>>> lifelong Buffy fan, is set to direct the pilot, written by Nora and Lilla >>>> Zuckerman (Poker Face).
The reboot hails from Buffy the Vampire Slayer studio 20th Television and >>>> Disney sibling Searchlight TV where Zhao has been under a first-look deal. >>>>
Beyond the pilot order, I hear the reboot is starting a writers room soon, >>>> a sign that Hulu and the studios have high expectations for the project >>>> going to series. It is unclear yet whether other original Buffy cast
members would return; that is considered likely.
Described as the next chapter in the Buffyverse,
Mostly by people who hadn’t read the authorized comic books
the new incarnation is
executive produced by Gellar, Zhao, Nora and Lilla Zuckerman as well as the
original series’ executive producers Gail Berman of the Jackal Group and >>>> Fran Kuzui & Kaz Kuzui via Suite B.
Those dirty leeches will bleed this property till the end of time. Thanks, >> Directors union.
Also executive producing the pilot is
Dolly Parton whose company Sandollar was producer on the original.
Yikes!
Buffy creator Joss Whedon, who also wrote the 1992 movie the series was >>>> based on, has no involvement in the reboot. He has not worked in Hollywood >>>> in any official capacity since facing a slew of misconduct allegations in >>>> 2021.
Duh.
Oh, the top of the link has a click about how they finally charged Neil
Gayman with some really ugly stuff.
Yep. Heard about thiat.
Well, this is better than Whedon's previous idea for a reboot.
I don’t know about that?
It is.
But I'm
skeptical about the whole thing until somebody proves to me otherwise.
(Like, a good start, would be ignoring the last 4 seasons of the
original series and all of "Angel"!! ;p )
I don’t see how it can possibly be a reboot if Geller is playing Buffy.
"Reboot" is the wrong word. (Entertainment reporters are consistently mentally deficient, not knowing the basic meaning of the terms they use!)
If Gellar is playing "older Buffy" (and esp. if other "Buffy" cast
members return), this would be a "revival" not a "reboot".
Ian (One we know won't be returning is Amber Benson. I would put heavy
odds against either Eliza Dushku or Michelle Trachtenberg returning either.)
On Feb 3, 2025 at 5:49:47 PM PST, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
https://deadline.com/2025/02/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-reboot-sarah-michelle-gellar-hulu-pilot-chloe-zhao-1236273767/
BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER Reboot Starring Sarah Michelle Gellar Nears Hulu
Pilot Order with Chloé Zhao Directing
More than two decades after BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER ended its seven-season >> run, the beloved supernatural drama is eyeing a revival with a new chapter >> in the franchise. A followup series is nearing a pilot order from Hulu,
with Sarah Michelle Gellar expected to star, reprising her signature role
as Buffy Summers
Is this going to be a geriatric Buffy trying to run around and do all the gymnastics and whatnot that she used to as a teenager, or is she going to be kind of a Watcher type, mentoring a new young Slayer?
Beyond the pilot order, I hear the reboot is starting a writers room soon, >> a sign that Hulu and the studios have high expectations for the project
going to series. It is unclear yet whether other original Buffy cast
members would return; that is considered likely.
It's considered likely probably because most of them have nothing else going on with their careers.
Buffy creator Joss Whedon, who also wrote the 1992 movie the series was
based on, has no involvement in the reboot. He has not worked in Hollywood >> in any official capacity since facing a slew of misconduct allegations in
2021.
Whether he was a cad or not, his writing is what made the show what it was. I don't have high hopes it will recapture the magic without him.
If the Hulu pilot goes to series, it would be the third in the franchise,
following mothership Buffy the Vampire Slayer, which aired on the WB for
five seasons from 1997-2001 before dramatically moving to UPN for two more
Why was the move to UPN 'dramatic'?
Berman, Fran Kazui and Kaz Kazui previously teamed up with 20th TV in 2018 >> for a potential Buffy The Vampire Slayer reboot written by Midnight, Texas >> creator Monica Owusu-Breen, on which Whedon was an executive producer. That >> project, whose lead was envisioned as a black woman
Of course it was. What's a Hollywood 'reimagining' without a race-swap, right?
Ian J. Ball wrote:
On 2/3/25 6:15 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
On 2/3/25 5:49 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
https://deadline.com/2025/02/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-reboot-sarah-michelle-gellar-hulu-pilot-chloe-zhao-1236273767/
‘Buffy The Vampire Slayer’ Reboot Starring Sarah Michelle Gellar >>>>> Nears Hulu
Pilot Order With Chloé Zhao Directing
By Nellie Andreeva
February 3, 2025 12:30pm
More than two decades after Buffy the Vampire Slayer ended its
seven-season
run, the beloved supernatural drama is eyeing a revival with a new
chapter
in the franchise. A followup series is nearing a pilot order from Hulu, >>>>> with Sarah Michelle Gellar expected to star, reprising her signature >>>>> role
as Buffy Summers, sources said. Oscar winner Chloé Zhao, a
self-professed
lifelong Buffy fan, is set to direct the pilot, written by Nora and
Lilla
Zuckerman (Poker Face).
The reboot hails from Buffy the Vampire Slayer studio 20th
Television and
Disney sibling Searchlight TV where Zhao has been under a first-look >>>>> deal.
Beyond the pilot order, I hear the reboot is starting a writers room >>>>> soon,
a sign that Hulu and the studios have high expectations for the project >>>>> going to series. It is unclear yet whether other original Buffy cast >>>>> members would return; that is considered likely.
Described as the next chapter in the Buffyverse,
Mostly by people who hadn’t read the authorized comic books
the new incarnation is
executive produced by Gellar, Zhao, Nora and Lilla Zuckerman as well >>>>> as the
original series’ executive producers Gail Berman of the Jackal Group >>>>> and
Fran Kuzui & Kaz Kuzui via Suite B.
Those dirty leeches will bleed this property till the end of time.
Thanks,
Directors union.
Also executive producing the pilot is
Dolly Parton whose company Sandollar was producer on the original.
Yikes!
Buffy creator Joss Whedon, who also wrote the 1992 movie the series was >>>>> based on, has no involvement in the reboot. He has not worked in
Hollywood
in any official capacity since facing a slew of misconduct
allegations in
2021.
Duh.
Oh, the top of the link has a click about how they finally charged Neil
Gayman with some really ugly stuff.
Yep. Heard about thiat.
Well, this is better than Whedon's previous idea for a reboot.
I don’t know about that?
It is.
"Reboot" is the wrong word. (Entertainment reporters are consistentlyBut I'm
skeptical about the whole thing until somebody proves to me otherwise. >>>> (Like, a good start, would be ignoring the last 4 seasons of the
original series and all of "Angel"!! ;p )
I don’t see how it can possibly be a reboot if Geller is playing Buffy. >>
mentally deficient, not knowing the basic meaning of the terms they use!)
If Gellar is playing "older Buffy" (and esp. if other "Buffy" cast
members return), this would be a "revival" not a "reboot".
Ian (One we know won't be returning is Amber Benson. I would put heavy
odds against either Eliza Dushku or Michelle Trachtenberg returning
either.)
Why wouldn't Amber Benson return? Did she have a falling out with
someone? I know she's barely acting anymore, in any event.
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0072435/
She was in this Buffy podcast in 2023, along with several others of the original cast:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt29118106/
--Robin
Ian J. Ball wrote:
On 2/3/25 6:15 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
On 2/3/25 5:49 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
https://deadline.com/2025/02/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-reboot-sarah-
michelle-gellar-hulu-pilot-chloe-zhao-1236273767/
‘Buffy The Vampire Slayer’ Reboot Starring Sarah Michelle Gellar >>>>> Nears Hulu
Pilot Order With Chloé Zhao Directing
By Nellie Andreeva
February 3, 2025 12:30pm
More than two decades after Buffy the Vampire Slayer ended its
seven-season
run, the beloved supernatural drama is eyeing a revival with a new
chapter
in the franchise. A followup series is nearing a pilot order from
Hulu,
with Sarah Michelle Gellar expected to star, reprising her
signature role
as Buffy Summers, sources said. Oscar winner Chloé Zhao, a self-
professed
lifelong Buffy fan, is set to direct the pilot, written by Nora and
Lilla
Zuckerman (Poker Face).
The reboot hails from Buffy the Vampire Slayer studio 20th
Television and
Disney sibling Searchlight TV where Zhao has been under a first-
look deal.
Beyond the pilot order, I hear the reboot is starting a writers
room soon,
a sign that Hulu and the studios have high expectations for the
project
going to series. It is unclear yet whether other original Buffy cast >>>>> members would return; that is considered likely.
Described as the next chapter in the Buffyverse,
Mostly by people who hadn’t read the authorized comic books
the new incarnation is
executive produced by Gellar, Zhao, Nora and Lilla Zuckerman as
well as the
original series’ executive producers Gail Berman of the Jackal
Group and
Fran Kuzui & Kaz Kuzui via Suite B.
Those dirty leeches will bleed this property till the end of time.
Thanks,
Directors union.
Also executive producing the pilot is
Dolly Parton whose company Sandollar was producer on the original.
Yikes!
Buffy creator Joss Whedon, who also wrote the 1992 movie the series
was
based on, has no involvement in the reboot. He has not worked in
Hollywood
in any official capacity since facing a slew of misconduct
allegations in
2021.
Duh.
Oh, the top of the link has a click about how they finally charged Neil
Gayman with some really ugly stuff.
Yep. Heard about thiat.
Well, this is better than Whedon's previous idea for a reboot.
I don’t know about that?
It is.
"Reboot" is the wrong word. (Entertainment reporters are consistentlyBut I'm
skeptical about the whole thing until somebody proves to me otherwise. >>>> (Like, a good start, would be ignoring the last 4 seasons of the
original series and all of "Angel"!! ;p )
I don’t see how it can possibly be a reboot if Geller is playing Buffy. >>
mentally deficient, not knowing the basic meaning of the terms they use!)
If Gellar is playing "older Buffy" (and esp. if other "Buffy" cast
members return), this would be a "revival" not a "reboot".
Ian (One we know won't be returning is Amber Benson. I would put
heavy odds against either Eliza Dushku or Michelle Trachtenberg
returning either.)
Why wouldn't Amber Benson return? Did she have a falling out with
someone? I know she's barely acting anymore, in any event.
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0072435/
She was in this Buffy podcast in 2023, along with several others of the original cast:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt29118106/
--Robin
On Feb 3, 2025 at 5:49:47 PM PST, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
https://deadline.com/2025/02/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-reboot-sarah-michelle-gellar-hulu-pilot-chloe-zhao-1236273767/
BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER Reboot Starring Sarah Michelle Gellar Nears Hulu
Pilot Order with Chlo Zhao Directing
More than two decades after BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER ended its seven-season >> run, the beloved supernatural drama is eyeing a revival with a new chapter >> in the franchise. A followup series is nearing a pilot order from Hulu,
with Sarah Michelle Gellar expected to star, reprising her signature role
as Buffy Summers
Is this going to be a geriatric Buffy trying to run around and do all the >gymnastics and whatnot that she used to as a teenager, or is she going to be >kind of a Watcher type, mentoring a new young Slayer?
Beyond the pilot order, I hear the reboot is starting a writers room soon, >> a sign that Hulu and the studios have high expectations for the project
going to series. It is unclear yet whether other original Buffy cast
members would return; that is considered likely.
It's considered likely probably because most of them have nothing else going >on with their careers.
Buffy creator Joss Whedon, who also wrote the 1992 movie the series was
based on, has no involvement in the reboot. He has not worked in Hollywood >> in any official capacity since facing a slew of misconduct allegations in
2021.
Whether he was a cad or not, his writing is what made the show what it was. I >don't have high hopes it will recapture the magic without him.
If the Hulu pilot goes to series, it would be the third in the franchise,
following mothership Buffy the Vampire Slayer, which aired on the WB for
five seasons from 1997-2001 before dramatically moving to UPN for two more
Why was the move to UPN 'dramatic'?
On 2/3/25 11:10 PM, Robin Miller wrote:
Ian J. Ball wrote:
On 2/3/25 6:15 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
On 2/3/25 5:49 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
https://deadline.com/2025/02/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-reboot-sarah- >>>>>> michelle-gellar-hulu-pilot-chloe-zhao-1236273767/
Buffy The Vampire Slayer Reboot Starring Sarah Michelle Gellar
Nears Hulu
Pilot Order With Chlo Zhao Directing
By Nellie Andreeva
February 3, 2025 12:30pm
More than two decades after Buffy the Vampire Slayer ended its
seven-season
run, the beloved supernatural drama is eyeing a revival with a new >>>>>> chapter
in the franchise. A followup series is nearing a pilot order from
Hulu,
with Sarah Michelle Gellar expected to star, reprising her
signature role
as Buffy Summers, sources said. Oscar winner Chlo Zhao, a self-
professed
lifelong Buffy fan, is set to direct the pilot, written by Nora and >>>>>> Lilla
Zuckerman (Poker Face).
The reboot hails from Buffy the Vampire Slayer studio 20th
Television and
Disney sibling Searchlight TV where Zhao has been under a first-
look deal.
Beyond the pilot order, I hear the reboot is starting a writers
room soon,
a sign that Hulu and the studios have high expectations for the
project
going to series. It is unclear yet whether other original Buffy cast >>>>>> members would return; that is considered likely.
Described as the next chapter in the Buffyverse,
Mostly by people who hadnt read the authorized comic books
the new incarnation is
executive produced by Gellar, Zhao, Nora and Lilla Zuckerman as
well as the
original series executive producers Gail Berman of the Jackal
Group and
Fran Kuzui & Kaz Kuzui via Suite B.
Those dirty leeches will bleed this property till the end of time.
Thanks,
Directors union.
Also executive producing the pilot is
Dolly Parton whose company Sandollar was producer on the original.
Yikes!
Buffy creator Joss Whedon, who also wrote the 1992 movie the series >>>>>> was
based on, has no involvement in the reboot. He has not worked in
Hollywood
in any official capacity since facing a slew of misconduct
allegations in
2021.
Duh.
Oh, the top of the link has a click about how they finally charged Neil >>>> Gayman with some really ugly stuff.
Yep. Heard about thiat.
Well, this is better than Whedon's previous idea for a reboot.
I dont know about that?
It is.
"Reboot" is the wrong word. (Entertainment reporters are consistentlyBut I'm
skeptical about the whole thing until somebody proves to me otherwise. >>>>> (Like, a good start, would be ignoring the last 4 seasons of the
original series and all of "Angel"!! ;p )
I dont see how it can possibly be a reboot if Geller is playing Buffy. >>>
mentally deficient, not knowing the basic meaning of the terms they use!) >>>
If Gellar is playing "older Buffy" (and esp. if other "Buffy" cast
members return), this would be a "revival" not a "reboot".
Ian (One we know won't be returning is Amber Benson. I would put
heavy odds against either Eliza Dushku or Michelle Trachtenberg
returning either.)
Why wouldn't Amber Benson return? Did she have a falling out with
someone? I know she's barely acting anymore, in any event.
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0072435/
She apparently hates Alyson Hannigan's guts. (I think she also came to >despise Whedon, though I don't think that matters anymore.)
If Hannigan is involved, Benson won't be.
Aside from that, I kind of get the feeling that Benson isn't acting much >these days.
On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 07:07:49 -0800, "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
On 2/3/25 11:10 PM, Robin Miller wrote:
Ian J. Ball wrote:
On 2/3/25 6:15 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
On 2/3/25 5:49 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
https://deadline.com/2025/02/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-reboot-sarah- >>>>>>> michelle-gellar-hulu-pilot-chloe-zhao-1236273767/
‘Buffy The Vampire Slayer’ Reboot Starring Sarah Michelle Gellar >>>>>>> Nears Hulu
Pilot Order With Chloé Zhao Directing
By Nellie Andreeva
February 3, 2025 12:30pm
More than two decades after Buffy the Vampire Slayer ended its
seven-season
run, the beloved supernatural drama is eyeing a revival with a new >>>>>>> chapter
in the franchise. A followup series is nearing a pilot order from >>>>>>> Hulu,
with Sarah Michelle Gellar expected to star, reprising her
signature role
as Buffy Summers, sources said. Oscar winner Chloé Zhao, a self- >>>>>>> professed
lifelong Buffy fan, is set to direct the pilot, written by Nora and >>>>>>> Lilla
Zuckerman (Poker Face).
The reboot hails from Buffy the Vampire Slayer studio 20th
Television and
Disney sibling Searchlight TV where Zhao has been under a first- >>>>>>> look deal.
Beyond the pilot order, I hear the reboot is starting a writers
room soon,
a sign that Hulu and the studios have high expectations for the
project
going to series. It is unclear yet whether other original Buffy cast >>>>>>> members would return; that is considered likely.
Described as the next chapter in the Buffyverse,
Mostly by people who hadn’t read the authorized comic books
the new incarnation is
executive produced by Gellar, Zhao, Nora and Lilla Zuckerman as
well as the
original series’ executive producers Gail Berman of the Jackal >>>>>>> Group and
Fran Kuzui & Kaz Kuzui via Suite B.
Those dirty leeches will bleed this property till the end of time.
Thanks,
Directors union.
Also executive producing the pilot isYikes!
Dolly Parton whose company Sandollar was producer on the original. >>>>>>
Buffy creator Joss Whedon, who also wrote the 1992 movie the series >>>>>>> was
based on, has no involvement in the reboot. He has not worked in >>>>>>> Hollywood
in any official capacity since facing a slew of misconduct
allegations in
2021.
Duh.
Oh, the top of the link has a click about how they finally charged Neil >>>>> Gayman with some really ugly stuff.
Yep. Heard about thiat.
Well, this is better than Whedon's previous idea for a reboot.
I don’t know about that?
It is.
"Reboot" is the wrong word. (Entertainment reporters are consistentlyBut I'm
skeptical about the whole thing until somebody proves to me otherwise. >>>>>> (Like, a good start, would be ignoring the last 4 seasons of the
original series and all of "Angel"!! ;p )
I don’t see how it can possibly be a reboot if Geller is playing Buffy. >>>>
mentally deficient, not knowing the basic meaning of the terms they use!) >>>>
If Gellar is playing "older Buffy" (and esp. if other "Buffy" cast
members return), this would be a "revival" not a "reboot".
Ian (One we know won't be returning is Amber Benson. I would put
heavy odds against either Eliza Dushku or Michelle Trachtenberg
returning either.)
Why wouldn't Amber Benson return? Did she have a falling out with
someone? I know she's barely acting anymore, in any event.
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0072435/
She apparently hates Alyson Hannigan's guts. (I think she also came to
despise Whedon, though I don't think that matters anymore.)
Why was that? I'm not up on all the soap opera stuff of their private lives except what came out about Joss. I got the impression tho that Alyson was one of Joss's favorites since she was about the only one who didnt come out saying anything about him.
If Hannigan is involved, Benson won't be.
Aside from that, I kind of get the feeling that Benson isn't acting much
these days.
Except for David Boreanaz, who among the cast is really is that active? Alyson had a nice career with the American pie movies and How I met your mother but most haven't done a lot since Buffy.
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
On Feb 3, 2025 at 5:49:47 PM PST, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
https://deadline.com/2025/02/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-reboot-sarah-michelle-gellar-hulu-pilot-chloe-zhao-1236273767/
BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER Reboot Starring Sarah Michelle Gellar Nears Hulu >>> Pilot Order with Chloé Zhao Directing
More than two decades after BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER ended its seven-season >>> run, the beloved supernatural drama is eyeing a revival with a new chapter >>> in the franchise. A followup series is nearing a pilot order from Hulu,
with Sarah Michelle Gellar expected to star, reprising her signature role >>> as Buffy Summers
Is this going to be a geriatric Buffy trying to run around and do all the
gymnastics and whatnot that she used to as a teenager, or is she going to be >> kind of a Watcher type, mentoring a new young Slayer?
“Buffy the Vampire Slayer Watcher“
Or maybe
“Buffy The Vampire Slayer Slayer Watcher“
Anyway, remember at the end of the series they had released all the >potentials? There are hundreds, maybe thousands of them running around; the >big question is have more than being born in the last 20 years.
Beyond the pilot order, I hear the reboot is starting a writers room soon, >>> a sign that Hulu and the studios have high expectations for the project
going to series. It is unclear yet whether other original Buffy cast
members would return; that is considered likely.
It's considered likely probably because most of them have nothing else going >> on with their careers.
Does Willow still host that magic show I won’t watch?
Buffy creator Joss Whedon, who also wrote the 1992 movie the series was
based on, has no involvement in the reboot. He has not worked in Hollywood >>> in any official capacity since facing a slew of misconduct allegations in >>> 2021.
Whether he was a cad or not, his writing is what made the show what it was. I
don't have high hopes it will recapture the magic without him.
Yeah. Even the decent episodes that he allowed to be credited to others
were heavily rewritten by him.
If the Hulu pilot goes to series, it would be the third in the franchise, >>> following mothership Buffy the Vampire Slayer, which aired on the WB for >>> five seasons from 1997-2001 before dramatically moving to UPN for two more >>Why was the move to UPN 'dramatic'?
They left Angel behind. So the drama!
Berman, Fran Kazui and Kaz Kazui previously teamed up with 20th TV in 2018 >>> for a potential Buffy The Vampire Slayer reboot written by Midnight, Texas >>> creator Monica Owusu-Breen, on which Whedon was an executive producer. That >>> project, whose lead was envisioned as a black woman
Of course it was. What's a Hollywood 'reimagining' without a race-swap,
right?
It’s the first order of business in the first meeting. “OK, who do we make >black?“
On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 08:01:40 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
On Feb 3, 2025 at 5:49:47 PM PST, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote: >>>
https://deadline.com/2025/02/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-reboot-sarah-michelle-gellar-hulu-pilot-chloe-zhao-1236273767/
BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER Reboot Starring Sarah Michelle Gellar Nears Hulu >>>> Pilot Order with Chloé Zhao Directing
More than two decades after BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER ended its seven-season
run, the beloved supernatural drama is eyeing a revival with a new chapter
in the franchise. A followup series is nearing a pilot order from Hulu, >>>> with Sarah Michelle Gellar expected to star, reprising her signature role >>>> as Buffy Summers
Is this going to be a geriatric Buffy trying to run around and do all the >>> gymnastics and whatnot that she used to as a teenager, or is she going to be
kind of a Watcher type, mentoring a new young Slayer?
“Buffy the Vampire Slayer Watcher“
Or maybe
“Buffy The Vampire Slayer Slayer Watcher“
Anyway, remember at the end of the series they had released all the
potentials? There are hundreds, maybe thousands of them running around; the >> big question is have more than being born in the last 20 years.
Beyond the pilot order, I hear the reboot is starting a writers room soon,
a sign that Hulu and the studios have high expectations for the project >>>> going to series. It is unclear yet whether other original Buffy cast
members would return; that is considered likely.
It's considered likely probably because most of them have nothing else going
on with their careers.
Does Willow still host that magic show I won’t watch?
She does not. Brooke Burke took over the hosting duty in 2023 of PENN
& TELLER: FOOL US.
Buffy creator Joss Whedon, who also wrote the 1992 movie the series was >>>> based on, has no involvement in the reboot. He has not worked in Hollywood
in any official capacity since facing a slew of misconduct allegations in >>>> 2021.
Whether he was a cad or not, his writing is what made the show what it
was. I
don't have high hopes it will recapture the magic without him.
Yeah. Even the decent episodes that he allowed to be credited to others
were heavily rewritten by him.
That's the main reason I question the ability to recapture the magic
(the lack of Whedon being involved in the project.) I get that he did
some bad things and they wouldn't want him on the set but without him
being involved in the writing it's doubtful the show makes it past a
first set of episodes. Not that it's that likely it survives to a
second season even if he was involved as most shows don't do that
well.
If the Hulu pilot goes to series, it would be the third in the franchise, >>>> following mothership Buffy the Vampire Slayer, which aired on the WB for >>>> five seasons from 1997-2001 before dramatically moving to UPN for two more
Why was the move to UPN 'dramatic'?
They left Angel behind. So the drama!
Total Drama Island.
Berman, Fran Kazui and Kaz Kazui previously teamed up with 20th TV in 2018
for a potential Buffy The Vampire Slayer reboot written by Midnight, Texas
creator Monica Owusu-Breen, on which Whedon was an executive producer. That
project, whose lead was envisioned as a black woman
Of course it was. What's a Hollywood 'reimagining' without a race-swap, >>> right?
It’s the first order of business in the first meeting. “OK, who do we make
black?“
What if we make the entire cast black? Wouldn't that be the best move?
On 2/4/25 7:35 AM, EGK wrote:
On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 07:07:49 -0800, "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
On 2/3/25 11:10 PM, Robin Miller wrote:
Ian J. Ball wrote:
On 2/3/25 6:15 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
On 2/3/25 5:49 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
https://deadline.com/2025/02/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-reboot-sarah- >>>>>>>> michelle-gellar-hulu-pilot-chloe-zhao-1236273767/
‘Buffy The Vampire Slayer’ Reboot Starring Sarah Michelle Gellar >>>>>>>> Nears Hulu
Pilot Order With Chloé Zhao Directing
By Nellie Andreeva
February 3, 2025 12:30pm
More than two decades after Buffy the Vampire Slayer ended its >>>>>>>> seven-season
run, the beloved supernatural drama is eyeing a revival with a new >>>>>>>> chapter
in the franchise. A followup series is nearing a pilot order from >>>>>>>> Hulu,
with Sarah Michelle Gellar expected to star, reprising her
signature role
as Buffy Summers, sources said. Oscar winner Chloé Zhao, a self- >>>>>>>> professed
lifelong Buffy fan, is set to direct the pilot, written by Nora and >>>>>>>> Lilla
Zuckerman (Poker Face).
The reboot hails from Buffy the Vampire Slayer studio 20th
Television and
Disney sibling Searchlight TV where Zhao has been under a first- >>>>>>>> look deal.
Beyond the pilot order, I hear the reboot is starting a writers >>>>>>>> room soon,
a sign that Hulu and the studios have high expectations for the >>>>>>>> project
going to series. It is unclear yet whether other original Buffy cast >>>>>>>> members would return; that is considered likely.
Described as the next chapter in the Buffyverse,
Mostly by people who hadn’t read the authorized comic books
the new incarnation is
executive produced by Gellar, Zhao, Nora and Lilla Zuckerman as >>>>>>>> well as the
original series’ executive producers Gail Berman of the Jackal >>>>>>>> Group and
Fran Kuzui & Kaz Kuzui via Suite B.
Those dirty leeches will bleed this property till the end of time. >>>>>> Thanks,
Directors union.
Also executive producing the pilot isYikes!
Dolly Parton whose company Sandollar was producer on the original. >>>>>>>
Buffy creator Joss Whedon, who also wrote the 1992 movie the series >>>>>>>> was
based on, has no involvement in the reboot. He has not worked in >>>>>>>> Hollywood
in any official capacity since facing a slew of misconduct
allegations in
2021.
Duh.
Oh, the top of the link has a click about how they finally charged Neil >>>>>> Gayman with some really ugly stuff.
Yep. Heard about thiat.
Well, this is better than Whedon's previous idea for a reboot.
I don’t know about that?
It is.
But I'm
skeptical about the whole thing until somebody proves to me otherwise. >>>>>>> (Like, a good start, would be ignoring the last 4 seasons of the >>>>>>> original series and all of "Angel"!! ;p )
I don’t see how it can possibly be a reboot if Geller is playing Buffy.
"Reboot" is the wrong word. (Entertainment reporters are consistently >>>>> mentally deficient, not knowing the basic meaning of the terms they use!)
If Gellar is playing "older Buffy" (and esp. if other "Buffy" cast
members return), this would be a "revival" not a "reboot".
Ian (One we know won't be returning is Amber Benson. I would put
heavy odds against either Eliza Dushku or Michelle Trachtenberg
returning either.)
Why wouldn't Amber Benson return? Did she have a falling out with
someone? I know she's barely acting anymore, in any event.
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0072435/
She apparently hates Alyson Hannigan's guts. (I think she also came to
despise Whedon, though I don't think that matters anymore.)
Why was that? I'm not up on all the soap opera stuff of their private lives
except what came out about Joss. I got the impression tho that Alyson was >> one of Joss's favorites since she was about the only one who didnt come out >> saying anything about him.
You've answered your own question.
The story goes that Hannigan was an asshole to Benson (was basically a
"mean girl" to her), and because Hannigan was one of Whedon's "pets" she
got away with it.
Benson eventually got fed up with the situation, and left the show/was written out.
If Hannigan is involved, Benson won't be.
Aside from that, I kind of get the feeling that Benson isn't acting much >>> these days.
Except for David Boreanaz, who among the cast is really is that active?
Alyson had a nice career with the American pie movies and How I met your
mother but most haven't done a lot since Buffy.
A lot of them are hitting Anim's magic "turned 40 or 50" age, which is
when a lot of actresses pretty much quit the business. I get the
impression that Charisma Carpenter is pretty much retired now.
Same for Dushku who hasn't acted since "Bull" and the accompanying
lawsuit.
Benson rarely acts these days, and it felt like she was transitioning to directing. Trachtenberg is another one who hasn't acted in ages, and the
last thing I think she did was host a "true crime" show, and I think
only did that for one season.
I could see Hannigan being up for a "Buffy" revival series. But I'd bet
most of the other actresses associated with the show either aren't
interested in coming back, or won't come back.
Robin Miller <robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Ian J. Ball wrote:
On 2/3/25 6:15 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
On 2/3/25 5:49 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
https://deadline.com/2025/02/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-reboot-sarah-michelle-gellar-hulu-pilot-chloe-zhao-1236273767/
‘Buffy The Vampire Slayer’ Reboot Starring Sarah Michelle Gellar >>>>>> Nears Hulu
Pilot Order With Chloé Zhao Directing
By Nellie Andreeva
February 3, 2025 12:30pm
More than two decades after Buffy the Vampire Slayer ended its
seven-season
run, the beloved supernatural drama is eyeing a revival with a new >>>>>> chapter
in the franchise. A followup series is nearing a pilot order from Hulu, >>>>>> with Sarah Michelle Gellar expected to star, reprising her signature >>>>>> role
as Buffy Summers, sources said. Oscar winner Chloé Zhao, a
self-professed
lifelong Buffy fan, is set to direct the pilot, written by Nora and >>>>>> Lilla
Zuckerman (Poker Face).
The reboot hails from Buffy the Vampire Slayer studio 20th
Television and
Disney sibling Searchlight TV where Zhao has been under a first-look >>>>>> deal.
Beyond the pilot order, I hear the reboot is starting a writers room >>>>>> soon,
a sign that Hulu and the studios have high expectations for the project >>>>>> going to series. It is unclear yet whether other original Buffy cast >>>>>> members would return; that is considered likely.
Described as the next chapter in the Buffyverse,
Mostly by people who hadn’t read the authorized comic books
the new incarnation is
executive produced by Gellar, Zhao, Nora and Lilla Zuckerman as well >>>>>> as the
original series’ executive producers Gail Berman of the Jackal Group >>>>>> and
Fran Kuzui & Kaz Kuzui via Suite B.
Those dirty leeches will bleed this property till the end of time.
Thanks,
Directors union.
Also executive producing the pilot is
Dolly Parton whose company Sandollar was producer on the original.
Yikes!
Buffy creator Joss Whedon, who also wrote the 1992 movie the series was >>>>>> based on, has no involvement in the reboot. He has not worked in
Hollywood
in any official capacity since facing a slew of misconduct
allegations in
2021.
Duh.
Oh, the top of the link has a click about how they finally charged Neil >>>> Gayman with some really ugly stuff.
Yep. Heard about thiat.
Well, this is better than Whedon's previous idea for a reboot.
I don’t know about that?
It is.
"Reboot" is the wrong word. (Entertainment reporters are consistentlyBut I'm
skeptical about the whole thing until somebody proves to me otherwise. >>>>> (Like, a good start, would be ignoring the last 4 seasons of the
original series and all of "Angel"!! ;p )
I don’t see how it can possibly be a reboot if Geller is playing Buffy. >>>
mentally deficient, not knowing the basic meaning of the terms they use!) >>>
If Gellar is playing "older Buffy" (and esp. if other "Buffy" cast
members return), this would be a "revival" not a "reboot".
Ian (One we know won't be returning is Amber Benson. I would put heavy >>> odds against either Eliza Dushku or Michelle Trachtenberg returning
either.)
Why wouldn't Amber Benson return? Did she have a falling out with
someone? I know she's barely acting anymore, in any event.
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0072435/
She was in this Buffy podcast in 2023, along with several others of the
original cast:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt29118106/
--Robin
And perhaps more importantly, she played dub dub in THE MIDDLEMAN!
(Well? I am waiting?)
On 2/4/25 7:35 AM, EGK wrote:
On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 07:07:49 -0800, "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid>
wrote:
On 2/3/25 11:10 PM, Robin Miller wrote:
Ian J. Ball wrote:
On 2/3/25 6:15 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
On 2/3/25 5:49 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
https://deadline.com/2025/02/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-reboot-sarah- >>>>>>>> michelle-gellar-hulu-pilot-chloe-zhao-1236273767/
‘Buffy The Vampire Slayer’ Reboot Starring Sarah Michelle Gellar >>>>>>>> Nears Hulu
Pilot Order With Chloé Zhao Directing
By Nellie Andreeva
February 3, 2025 12:30pm
More than two decades after Buffy the Vampire Slayer ended its >>>>>>>> seven-season
run, the beloved supernatural drama is eyeing a revival with a new >>>>>>>> chapter
in the franchise. A followup series is nearing a pilot order from >>>>>>>> Hulu,
with Sarah Michelle Gellar expected to star, reprising her
signature role
as Buffy Summers, sources said. Oscar winner Chloé Zhao, a self- >>>>>>>> professed
lifelong Buffy fan, is set to direct the pilot, written by Nora and >>>>>>>> Lilla
Zuckerman (Poker Face).
The reboot hails from Buffy the Vampire Slayer studio 20th
Television and
Disney sibling Searchlight TV where Zhao has been under a first- >>>>>>>> look deal.
Beyond the pilot order, I hear the reboot is starting a writers >>>>>>>> room soon,
a sign that Hulu and the studios have high expectations for the >>>>>>>> project
going to series. It is unclear yet whether other original Buffy >>>>>>>> cast
members would return; that is considered likely.
Described as the next chapter in the Buffyverse,
Mostly by people who hadn’t read the authorized comic books
the new incarnation is
executive produced by Gellar, Zhao, Nora and Lilla Zuckerman as >>>>>>>> well as the
original series’ executive producers Gail Berman of the Jackal >>>>>>>> Group and
Fran Kuzui & Kaz Kuzui via Suite B.
Those dirty leeches will bleed this property till the end of time. >>>>>> Thanks,
Directors union.
Also executive producing the pilot isYikes!
Dolly Parton whose company Sandollar was producer on the original. >>>>>>>
Buffy creator Joss Whedon, who also wrote the 1992 movie the series >>>>>>>> was
based on, has no involvement in the reboot. He has not worked in >>>>>>>> Hollywood
in any official capacity since facing a slew of misconduct
allegations in
2021.
Duh.
Oh, the top of the link has a click about how they finally charged >>>>>> Neil
Gayman with some really ugly stuff.
Yep. Heard about thiat.
Well, this is better than Whedon's previous idea for a reboot.
I don’t know about that?
It is.
But I'm
skeptical about the whole thing until somebody proves to me
otherwise.
(Like, a good start, would be ignoring the last 4 seasons of the >>>>>>> original series and all of "Angel"!! ;p )
I don’t see how it can possibly be a reboot if Geller is playing >>>>>> Buffy.
"Reboot" is the wrong word. (Entertainment reporters are consistently >>>>> mentally deficient, not knowing the basic meaning of the terms they
use!)
If Gellar is playing "older Buffy" (and esp. if other "Buffy" cast
members return), this would be a "revival" not a "reboot".
Ian (One we know won't be returning is Amber Benson. I would put
heavy odds against either Eliza Dushku or Michelle Trachtenberg
returning either.)
Why wouldn't Amber Benson return? Did she have a falling out with
someone? I know she's barely acting anymore, in any event.
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0072435/
She apparently hates Alyson Hannigan's guts. (I think she also came to
despise Whedon, though I don't think that matters anymore.)
Why was that? I'm not up on all the soap opera stuff of their private
lives
except what came out about Joss. I got the impression tho that Alyson
was
one of Joss's favorites since she was about the only one who didnt
come out
saying anything about him.
You've answered your own question.
The story goes that Hannigan was an asshole to Benson (was basically a
"mean girl" to her), and because Hannigan was one of Whedon's "pets" she
got away with it.
Benson eventually got fed up with the situation, and left the show/was written out.
If Hannigan is involved, Benson won't be.
Aside from that, I kind of get the feeling that Benson isn't acting much >>> these days.
Except for David Boreanaz, who among the cast is really is that active?
Alyson had a nice career with the American pie movies and How I met your
mother but most haven't done a lot since Buffy.
A lot of them are hitting Anim's magic "turned 40 or 50" age, which is
when a lot of actresses pretty much quit the business. I get the
impression that Charisma Carpenter is pretty much retired now. Same for Dushku who hasn't acted since "Bull" and the accompanying lawsuit.
Benson rarely acts these days, and it felt like she was transitioning to directing. Trachtenberg is another one who hasn't acted in ages, and the
last thing I think she did was host a "true crime" show, and I think
only did that for one season.
I could see Hannigan being up for a "Buffy" revival series. But I'd bet
most of the other actresses associated with the show either aren't
interested in coming back, or won't come back.
On Feb 4, 2025 at 9:21:33 AM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> >wrote:
On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 08:01:40 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
On Feb 3, 2025 at 5:49:47 PM PST, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote: >>>>
https://deadline.com/2025/02/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-reboot-sarah-michelle-gellar-hulu-pilot-chloe-zhao-1236273767/
BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER Reboot Starring Sarah Michelle Gellar Nears Hulu
Pilot Order with Chloé Zhao Directing
Of course it was. What's a Hollywood 'reimagining' without a race-swap, >>>> right?
It’s the first order of business in the first meeting. “OK, who do we make
black?“
What if we make the entire cast black? Wouldn't that be the best move?
Strangely, an entirely black cast (a la HAMILTON) is considered highly >diverse, even though, going by the commonly-accepted English language >definition of the word 'diverse', an all-black cast is exact opposite of >diverse.
anim8rfsk wrote:
Robin Miller <robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Ian J. Ball wrote:
On 2/3/25 6:15 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
On 2/3/25 5:49 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
https://deadline.com/2025/02/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-reboot-sarah-michelle-gellar-hulu-pilot-chloe-zhao-1236273767/
And perhaps more importantly, she played dub dub in THE MIDDLEMAN!
(Well? I am waiting?)
Middleman!
But two questions:
You know that Natalie Morales played Dub Dub. So who are you referring to?
And what happened to Matt Keeslar, the Middleman himself? IMDb lists
only four credits after "The Middleman" in 2008, the last in 2015.
On Feb 4, 2025 at 7:48:47 AM PST, ""Ian J. Ball"" <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
On 2/4/25 7:35 AM, EGK wrote:
On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 07:07:49 -0800, "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
On 2/3/25 11:10 PM, Robin Miller wrote:
Ian J. Ball wrote:
On 2/3/25 6:15 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
On 2/3/25 5:49 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
A lot of them are hitting Anim's magic "turned 40 or 50" age, which is
when a lot of actresses pretty much quit the business. I get the
impression that Charisma Carpenter is pretty much retired now.
Charisma lived in Pacific Palisades. I wonder if she still has a house?
Same for Dushku who hasn't acted since "Bull" and the accompanying
lawsuit.
She's now a therapist and mom of two in Boston.
Benson rarely acts these days, and it felt like she was transitioning to
directing. Trachtenberg is another one who hasn't acted in ages, and the
last thing I think she did was host a "true crime" show, and I think
only did that for one season.
And isn't Nicholas Brendon still in jail or something?
I could see Hannigan being up for a "Buffy" revival series. But I'd bet
most of the other actresses associated with the show either aren't
interested in coming back, or won't come back.
I could see Anthony Head coming back, too. He's still in the business.
More than two decades after Buffy the Vampire Slayer ended its seven-season >run, the beloved supernatural drama is eyeing a revival with a new chapter
in the franchise. A followup series is nearing a pilot order from Hulu
On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 17:39:56 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Feb 4, 2025 at 7:48:47 AM PST, ""Ian J. Ball"" <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
On 2/4/25 7:35 AM, EGK wrote:
On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 07:07:49 -0800, "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid> >>>> wrote:
On 2/3/25 11:10 PM, Robin Miller wrote:
Ian J. Ball wrote:
On 2/3/25 6:15 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
On 2/3/25 5:49 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
A lot of them are hitting Anim's magic "turned 40 or 50" age, which is
when a lot of actresses pretty much quit the business. I get the
impression that Charisma Carpenter is pretty much retired now.
Charisma lived in Pacific Palisades. I wonder if she still has a house?
No idea. Just looked at her Instagram and it looks like she's spent
the last month living in New York City. No mention of her home burning
down while a number of other posts about the fire so I guess if she
still lives in the Palisades her home is one that survived. https://www.instagram.com/p/ClxBK_QL1oQ/?img_index=1
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
On Feb 3, 2025 at 5:49:47 PM PST, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
If the Hulu pilot goes to series, it would be the third in the franchise, >>> following mothership Buffy the Vampire Slayer, which aired on the WB for >>> five seasons from 1997-2001 before dramatically moving to UPN for two more >>Why was the move to UPN 'dramatic'?
They left Angel behind. So the drama!
Ian J. Ball wrote:
On 2/4/25 7:35 AM, EGK wrote:
On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 07:07:49 -0800, "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid>
wrote:
On 2/3/25 11:10 PM, Robin Miller wrote:
Ian J. Ball wrote:
On 2/3/25 6:15 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
On 2/3/25 5:49 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
https://deadline.com/2025/02/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-reboot- >>>>>>>>> sarah-
michelle-gellar-hulu-pilot-chloe-zhao-1236273767/
‘Buffy The Vampire Slayer’ Reboot Starring Sarah Michelle Gellar >>>>>>>>> Nears Hulu
Pilot Order With Chloé Zhao Directing
By Nellie Andreeva
February 3, 2025 12:30pm
More than two decades after Buffy the Vampire Slayer ended its >>>>>>>>> seven-season
run, the beloved supernatural drama is eyeing a revival with a new >>>>>>>>> chapter
in the franchise. A followup series is nearing a pilot order from >>>>>>>>> Hulu,
with Sarah Michelle Gellar expected to star, reprising her
signature role
as Buffy Summers, sources said. Oscar winner Chloé Zhao, a self- >>>>>>>>> professed
lifelong Buffy fan, is set to direct the pilot, written by Nora >>>>>>>>> and
Lilla
Zuckerman (Poker Face).
The reboot hails from Buffy the Vampire Slayer studio 20th
Television and
Disney sibling Searchlight TV where Zhao has been under a first- >>>>>>>>> look deal.
Beyond the pilot order, I hear the reboot is starting a writers >>>>>>>>> room soon,
a sign that Hulu and the studios have high expectations for the >>>>>>>>> project
going to series. It is unclear yet whether other original Buffy >>>>>>>>> cast
members would return; that is considered likely.
Described as the next chapter in the Buffyverse,
Mostly by people who hadn’t read the authorized comic books
the new incarnation is
executive produced by Gellar, Zhao, Nora and Lilla Zuckerman as >>>>>>>>> well as the
original series’ executive producers Gail Berman of the Jackal >>>>>>>>> Group and
Fran Kuzui & Kaz Kuzui via Suite B.
Those dirty leeches will bleed this property till the end of time. >>>>>>> Thanks,
Directors union.
Also executive producing the pilot isYikes!
Dolly Parton whose company Sandollar was producer on the original. >>>>>>>>
Buffy creator Joss Whedon, who also wrote the 1992 movie the >>>>>>>>> series
was
based on, has no involvement in the reboot. He has not worked in >>>>>>>>> Hollywood
in any official capacity since facing a slew of misconduct
allegations in
2021.
Duh.
Oh, the top of the link has a click about how they finally
charged Neil
Gayman with some really ugly stuff.
Yep. Heard about thiat.
Well, this is better than Whedon's previous idea for a reboot.
I don’t know about that?
It is.
But I'm
skeptical about the whole thing until somebody proves to me
otherwise.
(Like, a good start, would be ignoring the last 4 seasons of the >>>>>>>> original series and all of "Angel"!! ;p )
I don’t see how it can possibly be a reboot if Geller is playing >>>>>>> Buffy.
"Reboot" is the wrong word. (Entertainment reporters are consistently >>>>>> mentally deficient, not knowing the basic meaning of the terms
they use!)
If Gellar is playing "older Buffy" (and esp. if other "Buffy" cast >>>>>> members return), this would be a "revival" not a "reboot".
Ian (One we know won't be returning is Amber Benson. I would put >>>>>> heavy odds against either Eliza Dushku or Michelle Trachtenberg
returning either.)
Why wouldn't Amber Benson return? Did she have a falling out with
someone? I know she's barely acting anymore, in any event.
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0072435/
She apparently hates Alyson Hannigan's guts. (I think she also came to >>>> despise Whedon, though I don't think that matters anymore.)
Why was that? I'm not up on all the soap opera stuff of their
private lives
except what came out about Joss. I got the impression tho that
Alyson was
one of Joss's favorites since she was about the only one who didnt
come out
saying anything about him.
You've answered your own question.
The story goes that Hannigan was an asshole to Benson (was basically a
"mean girl" to her), and because Hannigan was one of Whedon's "pets"
she got away with it.
Benson eventually got fed up with the situation, and left the show/was
written out.
If Hannigan is involved, Benson won't be.
Aside from that, I kind of get the feeling that Benson isn't acting
much
these days.
Except for David Boreanaz, who among the cast is really is that active?
Alyson had a nice career with the American pie movies and How I met your >>> mother but most haven't done a lot since Buffy.
A lot of them are hitting Anim's magic "turned 40 or 50" age, which is
when a lot of actresses pretty much quit the business. I get the
impression that Charisma Carpenter is pretty much retired now. Same
for Dushku who hasn't acted since "Bull" and the accompanying lawsuit.
Benson rarely acts these days, and it felt like she was transitioning
to directing. Trachtenberg is another one who hasn't acted in ages,
and the last thing I think she did was host a "true crime" show, and I
think only did that for one season.
I could see Hannigan being up for a "Buffy" revival series. But I'd
bet most of the other actresses associated with the show either aren't
interested in coming back, or won't come back.
That Buffy podcast I mentioned--"Slayers: A Buffyverse Storu," 9
episodes in Oct. 2023--had several of the BtVS actors: James Marsters, Charisma Carpenter, Emma Caulfield Ford, Juliet Landau, Amber Benson and
Tony Head. I imagine they might be interested in a sequel.
--Robin
Oh, the top of the link has a click about how they finally charged Neil >Gayman with some really ugly stuff.
And isn't Nicholas Brendon still in jail or something?
On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 12:42:15 -0500, Robin Miller <robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote:
anim8rfsk wrote:
Robin Miller <robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Ian J. Ball wrote:
On 2/3/25 6:15 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
On 2/3/25 5:49 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
https://deadline.com/2025/02/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-reboot-sarah-michelle-gellar-hulu-pilot-chloe-zhao-1236273767/
snip
And perhaps more importantly, she played dub dub in THE MIDDLEMAN!
(Well? I am waiting?)
Middleman!
But two questions:
You know that Natalie Morales played Dub Dub. So who are you referring to? >>
And what happened to Matt Keeslar, the Middleman himself? IMDb lists
only four credits after "The Middleman" in 2008, the last in 2015.
From Wikipedia:
Keeslar retired from acting in 2010, citing financial difficulties and
a lack of work, and went on to pursue a career in science. He wrote an
essay about his struggles with his acting career and subsequent
decision to enroll at Portland Community College.[3] He graduated Phi
Beta Kappa from Reed College with a biology degree in May 2014. His
biology thesis explored the effects of antimalarials on the brains of frogs.[4]
Keeslar became a practicing PA-C (certified physician assistant). He
is an instructor of urology at the Oregon Health & Science
University's School of Medicine.[5]
https://www.ohsu.edu/providers/matthew-keeslar-pa-c
On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 17:39:56 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
And isn't Nicholas Brendon still in jail or something?
He's apparently cleaned up his act enough to keep getting acting jobs
over the years. Nothing major but regular work.
On 2/4/25 9:49 AM, Robin Miller wrote:
Ian J. Ball wrote:
On 2/4/25 7:35 AM, EGK wrote:
On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 07:07:49 -0800, "Ian J. Ball"
<ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
On 2/3/25 11:10 PM, Robin Miller wrote:
Ian J. Ball wrote:
On 2/3/25 6:15 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
On 2/3/25 5:49 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
https://deadline.com/2025/02/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-reboot- >>>>>>>>>> sarah-
michelle-gellar-hulu-pilot-chloe-zhao-1236273767/
‘Buffy The Vampire Slayer’ Reboot Starring Sarah Michelle Gellar >>>>>>>>>> Nears Hulu
Pilot Order With Chloé Zhao Directing
By Nellie Andreeva
February 3, 2025 12:30pm
More than two decades after Buffy the Vampire Slayer ended its >>>>>>>>>> seven-season
run, the beloved supernatural drama is eyeing a revival with a >>>>>>>>>> new
chapter
in the franchise. A followup series is nearing a pilot order from >>>>>>>>>> Hulu,
with Sarah Michelle Gellar expected to star, reprising her >>>>>>>>>> signature role
as Buffy Summers, sources said. Oscar winner Chloé Zhao, a self- >>>>>>>>>> professed
lifelong Buffy fan, is set to direct the pilot, written by >>>>>>>>>> Nora and
Lilla
Zuckerman (Poker Face).
The reboot hails from Buffy the Vampire Slayer studio 20th >>>>>>>>>> Television and
Disney sibling Searchlight TV where Zhao has been under a first- >>>>>>>>>> look deal.
Beyond the pilot order, I hear the reboot is starting a writers >>>>>>>>>> room soon,
a sign that Hulu and the studios have high expectations for the >>>>>>>>>> project
going to series. It is unclear yet whether other original
Buffy cast
members would return; that is considered likely.
Described as the next chapter in the Buffyverse,
Mostly by people who hadn’t read the authorized comic books
the new incarnation is
executive produced by Gellar, Zhao, Nora and Lilla Zuckerman as >>>>>>>>>> well as the
original series’ executive producers Gail Berman of the Jackal >>>>>>>>>> Group and
Fran Kuzui & Kaz Kuzui via Suite B.
Those dirty leeches will bleed this property till the end of time. >>>>>>>> Thanks,
Directors union.
Also executive producing the pilot is
Dolly Parton whose company Sandollar was producer on the
original.
Yikes!
Buffy creator Joss Whedon, who also wrote the 1992 movie the >>>>>>>>>> series
was
based on, has no involvement in the reboot. He has not worked in >>>>>>>>>> Hollywood
in any official capacity since facing a slew of misconduct >>>>>>>>>> allegations in
2021.
Duh.
Oh, the top of the link has a click about how they finally
charged Neil
Gayman with some really ugly stuff.
Yep. Heard about thiat.
Well, this is better than Whedon's previous idea for a reboot. >>>>>>>>I don’t know about that?
It is.
But I'm
skeptical about the whole thing until somebody proves to me
otherwise.
(Like, a good start, would be ignoring the last 4 seasons of the >>>>>>>>> original series and all of "Angel"!! ;p )
I don’t see how it can possibly be a reboot if Geller is playing >>>>>>>> Buffy.
"Reboot" is the wrong word. (Entertainment reporters are
consistently
mentally deficient, not knowing the basic meaning of the terms
they use!)
If Gellar is playing "older Buffy" (and esp. if other "Buffy" cast >>>>>>> members return), this would be a "revival" not a "reboot".
Ian (One we know won't be returning is Amber Benson. I would put >>>>>>> heavy odds against either Eliza Dushku or Michelle Trachtenberg
returning either.)
Why wouldn't Amber Benson return? Did she have a falling out with
someone? I know she's barely acting anymore, in any event.
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0072435/
She apparently hates Alyson Hannigan's guts. (I think she also came to >>>>> despise Whedon, though I don't think that matters anymore.)
Why was that? I'm not up on all the soap opera stuff of their
private lives
except what came out about Joss. I got the impression tho that
Alyson was
one of Joss's favorites since she was about the only one who didnt
come out
saying anything about him.
You've answered your own question.
The story goes that Hannigan was an asshole to Benson (was basically
a "mean girl" to her), and because Hannigan was one of Whedon's
"pets" she got away with it.
Benson eventually got fed up with the situation, and left the
show/was written out.
If Hannigan is involved, Benson won't be.
Aside from that, I kind of get the feeling that Benson isn't acting
much
these days.
Except for David Boreanaz, who among the cast is really is that active? >>>> Alyson had a nice career with the American pie movies and How I met
your
mother but most haven't done a lot since Buffy.
A lot of them are hitting Anim's magic "turned 40 or 50" age, which
is when a lot of actresses pretty much quit the business. I get the
impression that Charisma Carpenter is pretty much retired now. Same
for Dushku who hasn't acted since "Bull" and the accompanying
lawsuit. Benson rarely acts these days, and it felt like she was
transitioning to directing. Trachtenberg is another one who hasn't
acted in ages, and the last thing I think she did was host a "true
crime" show, and I think only did that for one season.
I could see Hannigan being up for a "Buffy" revival series. But I'd
bet most of the other actresses associated with the show either
aren't interested in coming back, or won't come back.
That Buffy podcast I mentioned--"Slayers: A Buffyverse Storu," 9
episodes in Oct. 2023--had several of the BtVS actors: James Marsters,
Charisma Carpenter, Emma Caulfield Ford, Juliet Landau, Amber Benson
and Tony Head. I imagine they might be interested in a sequel.
--Robin
Emma Caulfield is one of the few others that I could see coming back -
but didn't her character die?!
Head as well.
Landau seemed to disappear after "Buffy".
On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 14:57:26 -0500, Robin Miller <robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote:
shawn wrote:
On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 12:42:15 -0500, Robin Miller
<robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote:
anim8rfsk wrote:
Robin Miller <robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Ian J. Ball wrote:
On 2/3/25 6:15 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
On 2/3/25 5:49 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
https://deadline.com/2025/02/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-reboot-sarah-michelle-gellar-hulu-pilot-chloe-zhao-1236273767/
snip
And perhaps more importantly, she played dub dub in THE MIDDLEMAN!
(Well? I am waiting?)
Middleman!
But two questions:
You know that Natalie Morales played Dub Dub. So who are you referring to? >>>>
And what happened to Matt Keeslar, the Middleman himself? IMDb lists
only four credits after "The Middleman" in 2008, the last in 2015.
From Wikipedia:
Keeslar retired from acting in 2010, citing financial difficulties and
a lack of work, and went on to pursue a career in science. He wrote an
essay about his struggles with his acting career and subsequent
decision to enroll at Portland Community College.[3] He graduated Phi
Beta Kappa from Reed College with a biology degree in May 2014. His
biology thesis explored the effects of antimalarials on the brains of
frogs.[4]
Keeslar became a practicing PA-C (certified physician assistant). He
is an instructor of urology at the Oregon Health & Science
University's School of Medicine.[5]
https://www.ohsu.edu/providers/matthew-keeslar-pa-c
Thanks, Shawn. I think I may remember that now. Maybe I asked the
question 10 years ago and forgot the answer. :-)
Too bad, I liked him. He was great in "The Middleman."
I liked him too but acting is a rough gig. Even if you have the looks
and some acting ability you still need a good deal of luck. I guess he
didn't have the luck needed to keep his career going and not enough dedication to keep hitting his head against that rejection brick wall.
shawn wrote:
On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 12:42:15 -0500, Robin Miller
<robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote:
anim8rfsk wrote:
Robin Miller <robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Ian J. Ball wrote:
On 2/3/25 6:15 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
On 2/3/25 5:49 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
https://deadline.com/2025/02/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-reboot-sarah-michelle-gellar-hulu-pilot-chloe-zhao-1236273767/
snip
And perhaps more importantly, she played dub dub in THE MIDDLEMAN!
(Well? I am waiting?)
Middleman!
But two questions:
You know that Natalie Morales played Dub Dub. So who are you referring to? >>>
And what happened to Matt Keeslar, the Middleman himself? IMDb lists
only four credits after "The Middleman" in 2008, the last in 2015.
From Wikipedia:
Keeslar retired from acting in 2010, citing financial difficulties and
a lack of work, and went on to pursue a career in science. He wrote an
essay about his struggles with his acting career and subsequent
decision to enroll at Portland Community College.[3] He graduated Phi
Beta Kappa from Reed College with a biology degree in May 2014. His
biology thesis explored the effects of antimalarials on the brains of
frogs.[4]
Keeslar became a practicing PA-C (certified physician assistant). He
is an instructor of urology at the Oregon Health & Science
University's School of Medicine.[5]
https://www.ohsu.edu/providers/matthew-keeslar-pa-c
Thanks, Shawn. I think I may remember that now. Maybe I asked the
question 10 years ago and forgot the answer. :-)
Too bad, I liked him. He was great in "The Middleman."
On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 08:01:40 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net><snip>
wrote:
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
On Feb 3, 2025 at 5:49:47 PM PST, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote: >>>>
Berman, Fran Kazui and Kaz Kazui previously teamed up with 20th TV in
2018 for a potential Buffy The Vampire Slayer reboot written by
Midnight, Texas creator Monica Owusu-Breen, on which Whedon was an
executive producer. That project, whose lead was envisioned as a black >>>> woman
Of course it was. What's a Hollywood 'reimagining' without a race-swap,
right?
It’s the first order of business in the first meeting. “OK, who do we make
black?“
What if we make the entire cast black? Wouldn't that be the best move?
Oh, even better the cast can be all female, but the vamps are all
male. That sends the perfect message.
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:<snip>
On Feb 3, 2025 at 5:49:47 PM PST, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
Berman, Fran Kazui and Kaz Kazui previously teamed up with 20th TV in 2018 >>> for a potential Buffy The Vampire Slayer reboot written by Midnight, Texas >>> creator Monica Owusu-Breen, on which Whedon was an executive producer. That >>> project, whose lead was envisioned as a black woman
Of course it was. What's a Hollywood 'reimagining' without a race-swap,
right?
It’s the first order of business in the first meeting. “OK, who do we make
black?“
On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 05:29:53 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
On Feb 3, 2025 at 5:49:47 PM PST, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
https://deadline.com/2025/02/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-reboot-sarah-michelle-gellar-hulu-pilot-chloe-zhao-1236273767/
BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER Reboot Starring Sarah Michelle Gellar Nears Hulu >>> Pilot Order with Chlo Zhao Directing
More than two decades after BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER ended its seven-season >>> run, the beloved supernatural drama is eyeing a revival with a new chapter >>> in the franchise. A followup series is nearing a pilot order from Hulu,
with Sarah Michelle Gellar expected to star, reprising her signature role >>> as Buffy Summers
Is this going to be a geriatric Buffy trying to run around and do all the
gymnastics and whatnot that she used to as a teenager, or is she going to be >> kind of a Watcher type, mentoring a new young Slayer?
Beyond the pilot order, I hear the reboot is starting a writers room soon, >>> a sign that Hulu and the studios have high expectations for the project
going to series. It is unclear yet whether other original Buffy cast
members would return; that is considered likely.
It's considered likely probably because most of them have nothing else going >> on with their careers.
Buffy creator Joss Whedon, who also wrote the 1992 movie the series was
based on, has no involvement in the reboot. He has not worked in Hollywood >>> in any official capacity since facing a slew of misconduct allegations in >>> 2021.
Whether he was a cad or not, his writing is what made the show what it was. I
don't have high hopes it will recapture the magic without him.
Depends on whether they can get other writers from the show, minus Marti Noxious.
If the Hulu pilot goes to series, it would be the third in the franchise, >>> following mothership Buffy the Vampire Slayer, which aired on the WB for >>> five seasons from 1997-2001 before dramatically moving to UPN for two more >>Why was the move to UPN 'dramatic'?
I dont know how dramatic it was but, at the time, a lot of places didn't
even have a UPN affiliate. I had none on cable here in NY state.
know if you remember him from the buffy group but George Gavalos (I think that was it) sent me vhs tapes of episodes for a while because I was active in that newsgroup. I later learned about piracy from the buffy binaries group. :D
I never watched Star Trek Enterprise because of the lack of UPN and once I was spoiled on the ending, I never watched it later.
I'd probably watch a reboot but i'm one of those fans who felt the show went downhill in later seasons due to choices they made. (spike, cough, spike)
Nothing can really repeat the "High school is hell(mouth)" metaphor from the first three years.
anim8rfsk wrote:
Robin Miller <robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Ian J. Ball wrote:
On 2/3/25 6:15 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
On 2/3/25 5:49 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
https://deadline.com/2025/02/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-reboot-sarah-michelle-gellar-hulu-pilot-chloe-zhao-1236273767/
‘Buffy The Vampire Slayer’ Reboot Starring Sarah Michelle Gellar >>>>>>> Nears Hulu
Pilot Order With Chloé Zhao Directing
By Nellie Andreeva
February 3, 2025 12:30pm
More than two decades after Buffy the Vampire Slayer ended its
seven-season
run, the beloved supernatural drama is eyeing a revival with a new >>>>>>> chapter
in the franchise. A followup series is nearing a pilot order from Hulu, >>>>>>> with Sarah Michelle Gellar expected to star, reprising her signature >>>>>>> role
as Buffy Summers, sources said. Oscar winner Chloé Zhao, a
self-professed
lifelong Buffy fan, is set to direct the pilot, written by Nora and >>>>>>> Lilla
Zuckerman (Poker Face).
The reboot hails from Buffy the Vampire Slayer studio 20th
Television and
Disney sibling Searchlight TV where Zhao has been under a first-look >>>>>>> deal.
Beyond the pilot order, I hear the reboot is starting a writers room >>>>>>> soon,
a sign that Hulu and the studios have high expectations for the project >>>>>>> going to series. It is unclear yet whether other original Buffy cast >>>>>>> members would return; that is considered likely.
Described as the next chapter in the Buffyverse,
Mostly by people who hadn’t read the authorized comic books
the new incarnation is
executive produced by Gellar, Zhao, Nora and Lilla Zuckerman as well >>>>>>> as the
original series’ executive producers Gail Berman of the Jackal Group >>>>>>> and
Fran Kuzui & Kaz Kuzui via Suite B.
Those dirty leeches will bleed this property till the end of time.
Thanks,
Directors union.
Also executive producing the pilot isYikes!
Dolly Parton whose company Sandollar was producer on the original. >>>>>>
Buffy creator Joss Whedon, who also wrote the 1992 movie the series was >>>>>>> based on, has no involvement in the reboot. He has not worked in >>>>>>> Hollywood
in any official capacity since facing a slew of misconduct
allegations in
2021.
Duh.
Oh, the top of the link has a click about how they finally charged Neil >>>>> Gayman with some really ugly stuff.
Yep. Heard about thiat.
Well, this is better than Whedon's previous idea for a reboot.
I don’t know about that?
It is.
"Reboot" is the wrong word. (Entertainment reporters are consistentlyBut I'm
skeptical about the whole thing until somebody proves to me otherwise. >>>>>> (Like, a good start, would be ignoring the last 4 seasons of the
original series and all of "Angel"!! ;p )
I don’t see how it can possibly be a reboot if Geller is playing Buffy. >>>>
mentally deficient, not knowing the basic meaning of the terms they use!) >>>>
If Gellar is playing "older Buffy" (and esp. if other "Buffy" cast
members return), this would be a "revival" not a "reboot".
Ian (One we know won't be returning is Amber Benson. I would put heavy >>>> odds against either Eliza Dushku or Michelle Trachtenberg returning
either.)
Why wouldn't Amber Benson return? Did she have a falling out with
someone? I know she's barely acting anymore, in any event.
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0072435/
She was in this Buffy podcast in 2023, along with several others of the
original cast:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt29118106/
--Robin
And perhaps more importantly, she played dub dub in THE MIDDLEMAN!
(Well? I am waiting?)
Middleman!
But two questions:
You know that Natalie Morales played Dub Dub. So who are you referring to?
And what happened to Matt Keeslar, the Middleman himself? IMDb lists
only four credits after "The Middleman" in 2008, the last in 2015.
--Robin
On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 17:39:56 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Feb 4, 2025 at 7:48:47 AM PST, ""Ian J. Ball"" <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
On 2/4/25 7:35 AM, EGK wrote:
On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 07:07:49 -0800, "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
On 2/3/25 11:10 PM, Robin Miller wrote:
Ian J. Ball wrote:
On 2/3/25 6:15 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
On 2/3/25 5:49 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
A lot of them are hitting Anim's magic "turned 40 or 50" age, which is
when a lot of actresses pretty much quit the business. I get the
impression that Charisma Carpenter is pretty much retired now.
Charisma lived in Pacific Palisades. I wonder if she still has a house?
No idea. Just looked at her Instagram and it looks like she's spent
the last month living in New York City. No mention of her home burning
down while a number of other posts about the fire so I guess if she
still lives in the Palisades her home is one that survived. https://www.instagram.com/p/ClxBK_QL1oQ/?img_index=1
Same for Dushku who hasn't acted since "Bull" and the accompanying
lawsuit.
She's now a therapist and mom of two in Boston.
Benson rarely acts these days, and it felt like she was transitioning to >>> directing. Trachtenberg is another one who hasn't acted in ages, and the >>> last thing I think she did was host a "true crime" show, and I think
only did that for one season.
And isn't Nicholas Brendon still in jail or something?
He's apparently cleaned up his act enough to keep getting acting jobs
over the years. Nothing major but regular work.
I could see Hannigan being up for a "Buffy" revival series. But I'd bet
most of the other actresses associated with the show either aren't
interested in coming back, or won't come back.
I could see Anthony Head coming back, too. He's still in the business.
On Feb 4, 2025 at 10:03:28 AM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 17:39:56 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Feb 4, 2025 at 7:48:47 AM PST, ""Ian J. Ball"" <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
On 2/4/25 7:35 AM, EGK wrote:
On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 07:07:49 -0800, "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid> >>>>> wrote:
On 2/3/25 11:10 PM, Robin Miller wrote:
Ian J. Ball wrote:
On 2/3/25 6:15 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
On 2/3/25 5:49 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
A lot of them are hitting Anim's magic "turned 40 or 50" age, which is >>>> when a lot of actresses pretty much quit the business. I get the
impression that Charisma Carpenter is pretty much retired now.
Charisma lived in Pacific Palisades. I wonder if she still has a house?
No idea. Just looked at her Instagram and it looks like she's spent
the last month living in New York City. No mention of her home burning
down while a number of other posts about the fire so I guess if she
still lives in the Palisades her home is one that survived.
https://www.instagram.com/p/ClxBK_QL1oQ/?img_index=1
She could be living elsewhere now. It was like 10 years ago when I knew of her
living there.
She blocked me on Twitter years ago for correcting all the misinformation she was posting in her anti-gun rants.
anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
More than two decades after Buffy the Vampire Slayer ended its seven-season >> run, the beloved supernatural drama is eyeing a revival with a new chapter >> in the franchise. A followup series is nearing a pilot order from Hulu
What's the point? If memory serves, it ended with Sunnydale being destroyed and a bunch of slayers leaving on a school bus.
I really hate attempts to cash in on nostalga.
--
Not a joke! Don't jump!
anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
Oh, the top of the link has a click about how they finally charged Neil
Gayman with some really ugly stuff.
What's that all about?
I assume it's some fabricated #MeToo nonsense.
--
Not a joke! Don't jump!
On 2/4/25 9:49 AM, Robin Miller wrote:
Ian J. Ball wrote:
On 2/4/25 7:35 AM, EGK wrote:
On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 07:07:49 -0800, "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid>
wrote:
On 2/3/25 11:10 PM, Robin Miller wrote:
Ian J. Ball wrote:
On 2/3/25 6:15 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
On 2/3/25 5:49 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
https://deadline.com/2025/02/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-reboot- >>>>>>>>>> sarah-
michelle-gellar-hulu-pilot-chloe-zhao-1236273767/
‘Buffy The Vampire Slayer’ Reboot Starring Sarah Michelle Gellar >>>>>>>>>> Nears Hulu
Pilot Order With Chloé Zhao Directing
By Nellie Andreeva
February 3, 2025 12:30pm
More than two decades after Buffy the Vampire Slayer ended its >>>>>>>>>> seven-season
run, the beloved supernatural drama is eyeing a revival with a new >>>>>>>>>> chapter
in the franchise. A followup series is nearing a pilot order from >>>>>>>>>> Hulu,
with Sarah Michelle Gellar expected to star, reprising her >>>>>>>>>> signature role
as Buffy Summers, sources said. Oscar winner Chloé Zhao, a self- >>>>>>>>>> professed
lifelong Buffy fan, is set to direct the pilot, written by Nora >>>>>>>>>> and
Lilla
Zuckerman (Poker Face).
The reboot hails from Buffy the Vampire Slayer studio 20th >>>>>>>>>> Television and
Disney sibling Searchlight TV where Zhao has been under a first- >>>>>>>>>> look deal.
Beyond the pilot order, I hear the reboot is starting a writers >>>>>>>>>> room soon,
a sign that Hulu and the studios have high expectations for the >>>>>>>>>> project
going to series. It is unclear yet whether other original Buffy >>>>>>>>>> cast
members would return; that is considered likely.
Described as the next chapter in the Buffyverse,
Mostly by people who hadn’t read the authorized comic books
the new incarnation is
executive produced by Gellar, Zhao, Nora and Lilla Zuckerman as >>>>>>>>>> well as the
original series’ executive producers Gail Berman of the Jackal >>>>>>>>>> Group and
Fran Kuzui & Kaz Kuzui via Suite B.
Those dirty leeches will bleed this property till the end of time. >>>>>>>> Thanks,
Directors union.
Also executive producing the pilot isYikes!
Dolly Parton whose company Sandollar was producer on the original. >>>>>>>>>
Buffy creator Joss Whedon, who also wrote the 1992 movie the >>>>>>>>>> series
was
based on, has no involvement in the reboot. He has not worked in >>>>>>>>>> Hollywood
in any official capacity since facing a slew of misconduct >>>>>>>>>> allegations in
2021.
Duh.
Oh, the top of the link has a click about how they finally
charged Neil
Gayman with some really ugly stuff.
Yep. Heard about thiat.
Well, this is better than Whedon's previous idea for a reboot. >>>>>>>>I don’t know about that?
It is.
But I'm
skeptical about the whole thing until somebody proves to me
otherwise.
(Like, a good start, would be ignoring the last 4 seasons of the >>>>>>>>> original series and all of "Angel"!! ;p )
I don’t see how it can possibly be a reboot if Geller is playing >>>>>>>> Buffy.
"Reboot" is the wrong word. (Entertainment reporters are consistently >>>>>>> mentally deficient, not knowing the basic meaning of the terms
they use!)
If Gellar is playing "older Buffy" (and esp. if other "Buffy" cast >>>>>>> members return), this would be a "revival" not a "reboot".
Ian (One we know won't be returning is Amber Benson. I would put >>>>>>> heavy odds against either Eliza Dushku or Michelle Trachtenberg
returning either.)
Why wouldn't Amber Benson return? Did she have a falling out with
someone? I know she's barely acting anymore, in any event.
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0072435/
She apparently hates Alyson Hannigan's guts. (I think she also came to >>>>> despise Whedon, though I don't think that matters anymore.)
Why was that? I'm not up on all the soap opera stuff of their
private lives
except what came out about Joss. I got the impression tho that
Alyson was
one of Joss's favorites since she was about the only one who didnt
come out
saying anything about him.
You've answered your own question.
The story goes that Hannigan was an asshole to Benson (was basically a
"mean girl" to her), and because Hannigan was one of Whedon's "pets"
she got away with it.
Benson eventually got fed up with the situation, and left the show/was
written out.
If Hannigan is involved, Benson won't be.
Aside from that, I kind of get the feeling that Benson isn't acting
much
these days.
Except for David Boreanaz, who among the cast is really is that active? >>>> Alyson had a nice career with the American pie movies and How I met your >>>> mother but most haven't done a lot since Buffy.
A lot of them are hitting Anim's magic "turned 40 or 50" age, which is
when a lot of actresses pretty much quit the business. I get the
impression that Charisma Carpenter is pretty much retired now. Same
for Dushku who hasn't acted since "Bull" and the accompanying lawsuit.
Benson rarely acts these days, and it felt like she was transitioning
to directing. Trachtenberg is another one who hasn't acted in ages,
and the last thing I think she did was host a "true crime" show, and I
think only did that for one season.
I could see Hannigan being up for a "Buffy" revival series. But I'd
bet most of the other actresses associated with the show either aren't
interested in coming back, or won't come back.
That Buffy podcast I mentioned--"Slayers: A Buffyverse Storu," 9
episodes in Oct. 2023--had several of the BtVS actors: James Marsters,
Charisma Carpenter, Emma Caulfield Ford, Juliet Landau, Amber Benson and
Tony Head. I imagine they might be interested in a sequel.
--Robin
Emma Caulfield is one of the few others that I could see coming back -
but didn't her character die?!
Head as well.
Landau seemed to disappear after "Buffy".
shawn wrote:
On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 12:42:15 -0500, Robin Miller
<robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote:
anim8rfsk wrote:
Robin Miller <robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Ian J. Ball wrote:
On 2/3/25 6:15 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
On 2/3/25 5:49 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
https://deadline.com/2025/02/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-reboot-sarah-michelle-gellar-hulu-pilot-chloe-zhao-1236273767/
snip
And perhaps more importantly, she played dub dub in THE MIDDLEMAN!
(Well? I am waiting?)
Middleman!
But two questions:
You know that Natalie Morales played Dub Dub. So who are you referring to? >>>
And what happened to Matt Keeslar, the Middleman himself? IMDb lists
only four credits after "The Middleman" in 2008, the last in 2015.
From Wikipedia:
Keeslar retired from acting in 2010, citing financial difficulties and
a lack of work, and went on to pursue a career in science. He wrote an
essay about his struggles with his acting career and subsequent
decision to enroll at Portland Community College.[3] He graduated Phi
Beta Kappa from Reed College with a biology degree in May 2014. His
biology thesis explored the effects of antimalarials on the brains of
frogs.[4]
Keeslar became a practicing PA-C (certified physician assistant). He
is an instructor of urology at the Oregon Health & Science
University's School of Medicine.[5]
https://www.ohsu.edu/providers/matthew-keeslar-pa-c
Thanks, Shawn. I think I may remember that now. Maybe I asked the
question 10 years ago and forgot the answer. :-)
Too bad, I liked him. He was great in "The Middleman."
--Robin
EGK <memyself@null.net> wrote:<snip>
I never watched Star Trek Enterprise because of the lack of UPN and once I >> was spoiled on the ending, I never watched it later.
You dodged a bullet there!
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
On Feb 4, 2025 at 10:03:28 AM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> >> wrote:
On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 17:39:56 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Feb 4, 2025 at 7:48:47 AM PST, ""Ian J. Ball"" <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:No idea. Just looked at her Instagram and it looks like she's spent
On 2/4/25 7:35 AM, EGK wrote:
On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 07:07:49 -0800, "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid> >>>>>> wrote:
On 2/3/25 11:10 PM, Robin Miller wrote:
Ian J. Ball wrote:
On 2/3/25 6:15 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
On 2/3/25 5:49 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
A lot of them are hitting Anim's magic "turned 40 or 50" age, which is >>>>> when a lot of actresses pretty much quit the business. I get the
impression that Charisma Carpenter is pretty much retired now.
Charisma lived in Pacific Palisades. I wonder if she still has a house? >>>
the last month living in New York City. No mention of her home burning
down while a number of other posts about the fire so I guess if she
still lives in the Palisades her home is one that survived.
https://www.instagram.com/p/ClxBK_QL1oQ/?img_index=1
She could be living elsewhere now. It was like 10 years ago when I knew of her
living there.
She blocked me on Twitter years ago for correcting all the misinformation she
was posting in her anti-gun rants.
I haven’t seen a post from her on Twitter in years. She may have just >stopped posting altogether.
shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 17:39:56 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Feb 4, 2025 at 7:48:47 AM PST, ""Ian J. Ball"" <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
A lot of them are hitting Anim's magic "turned 40 or 50" age, which is >>>> when a lot of actresses pretty much quit the business. I get the
impression that Charisma Carpenter is pretty much retired now.
Charisma lived in Pacific Palisades. I wonder if she still has a house?
No idea. Just looked at her Instagram and it looks like she's spent
the last month living in New York City. No mention of her home burning
down while a number of other posts about the fire so I guess if she
still lives in the Palisades her home is one that survived.
https://www.instagram.com/p/ClxBK_QL1oQ/?img_index=1
Same for Dushku who hasn't acted since "Bull" and the accompanying
lawsuit.
She's now a therapist and mom of two in Boston.
Benson rarely acts these days, and it felt like she was transitioning to >>>> directing. Trachtenberg is another one who hasn't acted in ages, and the >>>> last thing I think she did was host a "true crime" show, and I think
only did that for one season.
And isn't Nicholas Brendon still in jail or something?
He's apparently cleaned up his act enough to keep getting acting jobs
over the years. Nothing major but regular work.
And even if he doesn’t show up, we’ve got a spare.
I could see Hannigan being up for a "Buffy" revival series. But I'd bet >>>> most of the other actresses associated with the show either aren't
interested in coming back, or won't come back.
I could see Anthony Head coming back, too. He's still in the business.
Robin Miller <robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote:
anim8rfsk wrote:
Robin Miller <robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Ian J. Ball wrote:
On 2/3/25 6:15 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
On 2/3/25 5:49 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
https://deadline.com/2025/02/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-reboot-sarah-michelle-gellar-hulu-pilot-chloe-zhao-1236273767/
‘Buffy The Vampire Slayer’ Reboot Starring Sarah Michelle Gellar >>>>>>>> Nears Hulu
Pilot Order With Chloé Zhao Directing
By Nellie Andreeva
February 3, 2025 12:30pm
More than two decades after Buffy the Vampire Slayer ended its >>>>>>>> seven-season
run, the beloved supernatural drama is eyeing a revival with a new >>>>>>>> chapter
in the franchise. A followup series is nearing a pilot order from Hulu,
with Sarah Michelle Gellar expected to star, reprising her signature >>>>>>>> role
as Buffy Summers, sources said. Oscar winner Chloé Zhao, a
self-professed
lifelong Buffy fan, is set to direct the pilot, written by Nora and >>>>>>>> Lilla
Zuckerman (Poker Face).
The reboot hails from Buffy the Vampire Slayer studio 20th
Television and
Disney sibling Searchlight TV where Zhao has been under a first-look >>>>>>>> deal.
Beyond the pilot order, I hear the reboot is starting a writers room >>>>>>>> soon,
a sign that Hulu and the studios have high expectations for the project
going to series. It is unclear yet whether other original Buffy cast >>>>>>>> members would return; that is considered likely.
Described as the next chapter in the Buffyverse,
Mostly by people who hadn’t read the authorized comic books
the new incarnation is
executive produced by Gellar, Zhao, Nora and Lilla Zuckerman as well >>>>>>>> as the
original series’ executive producers Gail Berman of the Jackal Group >>>>>>>> and
Fran Kuzui & Kaz Kuzui via Suite B.
Those dirty leeches will bleed this property till the end of time. >>>>>> Thanks,
Directors union.
Also executive producing the pilot isYikes!
Dolly Parton whose company Sandollar was producer on the original. >>>>>>>
Buffy creator Joss Whedon, who also wrote the 1992 movie the series was
based on, has no involvement in the reboot. He has not worked in >>>>>>>> Hollywood
in any official capacity since facing a slew of misconduct
allegations in
2021.
Duh.
Oh, the top of the link has a click about how they finally charged Neil >>>>>> Gayman with some really ugly stuff.
Yep. Heard about thiat.
Well, this is better than Whedon's previous idea for a reboot.
I don’t know about that?
It is.
But I'm
skeptical about the whole thing until somebody proves to me otherwise. >>>>>>> (Like, a good start, would be ignoring the last 4 seasons of the >>>>>>> original series and all of "Angel"!! ;p )
I don’t see how it can possibly be a reboot if Geller is playing Buffy.
"Reboot" is the wrong word. (Entertainment reporters are consistently >>>>> mentally deficient, not knowing the basic meaning of the terms they use!) >>>>>
If Gellar is playing "older Buffy" (and esp. if other "Buffy" cast
members return), this would be a "revival" not a "reboot".
Ian (One we know won't be returning is Amber Benson. I would put heavy >>>>> odds against either Eliza Dushku or Michelle Trachtenberg returning
either.)
Why wouldn't Amber Benson return? Did she have a falling out with
someone? I know she's barely acting anymore, in any event.
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0072435/
She was in this Buffy podcast in 2023, along with several others of the >>>> original cast:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt29118106/
--Robin
And perhaps more importantly, she played dub dub in THE MIDDLEMAN!
(Well? I am waiting?)
Middleman!
But two questions:
You know that Natalie Morales played Dub Dub. So who are you referring to? >>
Back before Adam made Natalie hate me. I got all sorts of special project stuff and extras from her. One of them was a crossover done as a table read/radio play between the middleman comic book and the middleman TV show! Amber Benson happens to look like the comic book dub dub, so they brought
her in and had both dub dubs in the video. Also, I believe there was a
comic book version of it.
On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 15:08:43 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
On Feb 4, 2025 at 10:03:28 AM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> >>> wrote:
On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 17:39:56 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Feb 4, 2025 at 7:48:47 AM PST, ""Ian J. Ball"" <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:No idea. Just looked at her Instagram and it looks like she's spent
On 2/4/25 7:35 AM, EGK wrote:
On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 07:07:49 -0800, "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid> >>>>>>> wrote:
On 2/3/25 11:10 PM, Robin Miller wrote:
Ian J. Ball wrote:
On 2/3/25 6:15 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
On 2/3/25 5:49 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
A lot of them are hitting Anim's magic "turned 40 or 50" age, which is >>>>>> when a lot of actresses pretty much quit the business. I get the
impression that Charisma Carpenter is pretty much retired now.
Charisma lived in Pacific Palisades. I wonder if she still has a house? >>>>
the last month living in New York City. No mention of her home burning >>>> down while a number of other posts about the fire so I guess if she
still lives in the Palisades her home is one that survived.
https://www.instagram.com/p/ClxBK_QL1oQ/?img_index=1
She could be living elsewhere now. It was like 10 years ago when I knew of her
living there.
She blocked me on Twitter years ago for correcting all the misinformation she
was posting in her anti-gun rants.
I haven’t seen a post from her on Twitter in years. She may have just
stopped posting altogether.
LOL. To bring all this together, Charisma posted on Twitter on Feb 2,
2025. I also noticed she reposted a video from Dub Dub, Natalie
Morales.
On 2025-02-04 22:08:38 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
EGK <memyself@null.net> wrote:<snip>
I never watched Star Trek Enterprise because of the lack of UPN and once I >>> was spoiled on the ending, I never watched it later.
You dodged a bullet there!
A "bullet"?! More like a massive Death Star-sized lazer beam! It was an abysmal show, probably the worst of the awful so-called "Star Trek"
modern era shows and movies.
anim8rfsk wrote:
Robin Miller <robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote:
anim8rfsk wrote:
Robin Miller <robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Ian J. Ball wrote:
On 2/3/25 6:15 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
On 2/3/25 5:49 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
https://deadline.com/2025/02/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-reboot-sarah-michelle-gellar-hulu-pilot-chloe-zhao-1236273767/
‘Buffy The Vampire Slayer’ Reboot Starring Sarah Michelle Gellar >>>>>>>>> Nears Hulu
Pilot Order With Chloé Zhao Directing
By Nellie Andreeva
February 3, 2025 12:30pm
More than two decades after Buffy the Vampire Slayer ended its >>>>>>>>> seven-season
run, the beloved supernatural drama is eyeing a revival with a new >>>>>>>>> chapter
in the franchise. A followup series is nearing a pilot order from Hulu,
with Sarah Michelle Gellar expected to star, reprising her signature >>>>>>>>> role
as Buffy Summers, sources said. Oscar winner Chloé Zhao, a
self-professed
lifelong Buffy fan, is set to direct the pilot, written by Nora and >>>>>>>>> Lilla
Zuckerman (Poker Face).
The reboot hails from Buffy the Vampire Slayer studio 20th
Television and
Disney sibling Searchlight TV where Zhao has been under a first-look >>>>>>>>> deal.
Beyond the pilot order, I hear the reboot is starting a writers room >>>>>>>>> soon,
a sign that Hulu and the studios have high expectations for the project
going to series. It is unclear yet whether other original Buffy cast >>>>>>>>> members would return; that is considered likely.
Described as the next chapter in the Buffyverse,
Mostly by people who hadn’t read the authorized comic books
the new incarnation is
executive produced by Gellar, Zhao, Nora and Lilla Zuckerman as well >>>>>>>>> as the
original series’ executive producers Gail Berman of the Jackal Group
and
Fran Kuzui & Kaz Kuzui via Suite B.
Those dirty leeches will bleed this property till the end of time. >>>>>>> Thanks,
Directors union.
Also executive producing the pilot isYikes!
Dolly Parton whose company Sandollar was producer on the original. >>>>>>>>
Buffy creator Joss Whedon, who also wrote the 1992 movie the series was
based on, has no involvement in the reboot. He has not worked in >>>>>>>>> Hollywood
in any official capacity since facing a slew of misconduct
allegations in
2021.
Duh.
Oh, the top of the link has a click about how they finally charged Neil >>>>>>> Gayman with some really ugly stuff.
Yep. Heard about thiat.
Well, this is better than Whedon's previous idea for a reboot.
I don’t know about that?
It is.
But I'm
skeptical about the whole thing until somebody proves to me otherwise. >>>>>>>> (Like, a good start, would be ignoring the last 4 seasons of the >>>>>>>> original series and all of "Angel"!! ;p )
I don’t see how it can possibly be a reboot if Geller is playing Buffy.
"Reboot" is the wrong word. (Entertainment reporters are consistently >>>>>> mentally deficient, not knowing the basic meaning of the terms they use!)
If Gellar is playing "older Buffy" (and esp. if other "Buffy" cast >>>>>> members return), this would be a "revival" not a "reboot".
Ian (One we know won't be returning is Amber Benson. I would put heavy >>>>>> odds against either Eliza Dushku or Michelle Trachtenberg returning >>>>>> either.)
Why wouldn't Amber Benson return? Did she have a falling out with
someone? I know she's barely acting anymore, in any event.
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0072435/
She was in this Buffy podcast in 2023, along with several others of the >>>>> original cast:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt29118106/
--Robin
And perhaps more importantly, she played dub dub in THE MIDDLEMAN!
(Well? I am waiting?)
Middleman!
But two questions:
You know that Natalie Morales played Dub Dub. So who are you referring to? >>>
Back before Adam made Natalie hate me. I got all sorts of special project
stuff and extras from her. One of them was a crossover done as a table
read/radio play between the middleman comic book and the middleman TV show! >> Amber Benson happens to look like the comic book dub dub, so they brought
her in and had both dub dubs in the video. Also, I believe there was a
comic book version of it.
What a great story! I had no idea there was a Middleman comic book.
--Robin
shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 15:08:43 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
On Feb 4, 2025 at 10:03:28 AM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 17:39:56 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Feb 4, 2025 at 7:48:47 AM PST, ""Ian J. Ball"" <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:No idea. Just looked at her Instagram and it looks like she's spent
On 2/4/25 7:35 AM, EGK wrote:
On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 07:07:49 -0800, "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid> >>>>>>>> wrote:
On 2/3/25 11:10 PM, Robin Miller wrote:
Ian J. Ball wrote:
On 2/3/25 6:15 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
On 2/3/25 5:49 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
A lot of them are hitting Anim's magic "turned 40 or 50" age, which is >>>>>>> when a lot of actresses pretty much quit the business. I get the >>>>>>> impression that Charisma Carpenter is pretty much retired now.
Charisma lived in Pacific Palisades. I wonder if she still has a house? >>>>>
the last month living in New York City. No mention of her home burning >>>>> down while a number of other posts about the fire so I guess if she
still lives in the Palisades her home is one that survived.
https://www.instagram.com/p/ClxBK_QL1oQ/?img_index=1
She could be living elsewhere now. It was like 10 years ago when I knew of her
living there.
She blocked me on Twitter years ago for correcting all the misinformation she
was posting in her anti-gun rants.
I haven’t seen a post from her on Twitter in years. She may have just
stopped posting altogether.
LOL. To bring all this together, Charisma posted on Twitter on Feb 2,
2025. I also noticed she reposted a video from Dub Dub, Natalie
Morales.
OK, well I wasn’t following charisma anymore. Looking over her posts I see >that she announced she was leaving X forever back in 2023. However, she >doesn’t seem to have followed through on that threat. I don’t see the video
from Natalie Morales. Nor can I find Natalie Morales by searching. There’s >hundreds of them and nothing to differentiate our dub dub.
That's because of the new definition of 'diverse' that some are
working under. Diverse meaning not white.
What if we make the entire cast black? Wouldn't that be the best move?
Oh, even better the cast can be all female, but the vamps are all
male. That sends the perfect message.
Oh, even better the cast can be all female, but the vamps are all
male. That sends the perfect message.
The only way you're allowed a white male character these days is if
they're dumb or evil, or both. :-\
On Tue, 04 Feb 2025 12:50:41 -0500, shawn
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
That's because of the new definition of 'diverse' that some are
working under. Diverse meaning not white.
Which is both ridiculous and racist.
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
Oh, the top of the link has a click about how they finally charged Neil
Gayman with some really ugly stuff.
What's that all about?
I assume it's some fabricated #MeToo nonsense.
I didn't click it, but the teaser read something like officially charged
with rape and human trafficking.
Up till now the worst I heard was "dated his nanny after she had left his >employ" - the fiend!
On Tue, 04 Feb 2025 12:21:33 -0500, shawn
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
What if we make the entire cast black? Wouldn't that be the best move?
Oh, even better the cast can be all female, but the vamps are all
male. That sends the perfect message.
I dunno - I considered Juliet Landau one of the biggest 'babes' on the
show way back when...
On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 21:00:25 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:
shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 15:08:43 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
On Feb 4, 2025 at 10:03:28 AM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 17:39:56 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> >>>>>> wrote:
On Feb 4, 2025 at 7:48:47 AM PST, ""Ian J. Ball"" <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:No idea. Just looked at her Instagram and it looks like she's spent >>>>>> the last month living in New York City. No mention of her home burning >>>>>> down while a number of other posts about the fire so I guess if she >>>>>> still lives in the Palisades her home is one that survived.
On 2/4/25 7:35 AM, EGK wrote:
On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 07:07:49 -0800, "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
On 2/3/25 11:10 PM, Robin Miller wrote:
Ian J. Ball wrote:
On 2/3/25 6:15 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
On 2/3/25 5:49 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
A lot of them are hitting Anim's magic "turned 40 or 50" age, which is >>>>>>>> when a lot of actresses pretty much quit the business. I get the >>>>>>>> impression that Charisma Carpenter is pretty much retired now.
Charisma lived in Pacific Palisades. I wonder if she still has a house? >>>>>>
https://www.instagram.com/p/ClxBK_QL1oQ/?img_index=1
She could be living elsewhere now. It was like 10 years ago when I knew of her
living there.
She blocked me on Twitter years ago for correcting all the misinformation she
was posting in her anti-gun rants.
I haven’t seen a post from her on Twitter in years. She may have just >>>> stopped posting altogether.
LOL. To bring all this together, Charisma posted on Twitter on Feb 2,
2025. I also noticed she reposted a video from Dub Dub, Natalie
Morales.
OK, well I wasn’t following charisma anymore. Looking over her posts I see >> that she announced she was leaving X forever back in 2023. However, she
doesn’t seem to have followed through on that threat. I don’t see the video
from Natalie Morales. Nor can I find Natalie Morales by searching. There’s >> hundreds of them and nothing to differentiate our dub dub.
Here is the video that Charisma reposted. It's over on Instagram which
is apparently where the original Natalie Morales video was posted. https://www.instagram.com/p/DEyN9fuxW3K/?hl=en
https://www.instagram.com/nataliemoralesloves/?hl=en
anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
Oh, the top of the link has a click about how they finally charged Neil >>>> Gayman with some really ugly stuff.
What's that all about?
I assume it's some fabricated #MeToo nonsense.
I didn't click it, but the teaser read something like officially charged
with rape and human trafficking.
Up till now the worst I heard was "dated his nanny after she had left his
employ" - the fiend!
I am not sure I had heard about that, but I haven't been paying attention.
--
Not a joke! Don't jump!
shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 21:00:25 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:
shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 15:08:43 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
On Feb 4, 2025 at 10:03:28 AM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 17:39:56 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> >>>>>>> wrote:
On Feb 4, 2025 at 7:48:47 AM PST, ""Ian J. Ball"" <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
On 2/4/25 7:35 AM, EGK wrote:
On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 07:07:49 -0800, "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid>
wrote:
On 2/3/25 11:10 PM, Robin Miller wrote:
Ian J. Ball wrote:
On 2/3/25 6:15 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
On 2/3/25 5:49 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
A lot of them are hitting Anim's magic "turned 40 or 50" age, which isCharisma lived in Pacific Palisades. I wonder if she still has a house?
when a lot of actresses pretty much quit the business. I get the >>>>>>>>> impression that Charisma Carpenter is pretty much retired now. >>>>>>>>
No idea. Just looked at her Instagram and it looks like she's spent >>>>>>> the last month living in New York City. No mention of her home burning >>>>>>> down while a number of other posts about the fire so I guess if she >>>>>>> still lives in the Palisades her home is one that survived.
https://www.instagram.com/p/ClxBK_QL1oQ/?img_index=1
She could be living elsewhere now. It was like 10 years ago when I knew of her
living there.
She blocked me on Twitter years ago for correcting all the misinformation she
was posting in her anti-gun rants.
I haven’t seen a post from her on Twitter in years. She may have just >>>>> stopped posting altogether.
LOL. To bring all this together, Charisma posted on Twitter on Feb 2,
2025. I also noticed she reposted a video from Dub Dub, Natalie
Morales.
OK, well I wasn’t following charisma anymore. Looking over her posts I see
that she announced she was leaving X forever back in 2023. However, she
doesn’t seem to have followed through on that threat. I don’t see the video
from Natalie Morales. Nor can I find Natalie Morales by searching. There’s
hundreds of them and nothing to differentiate our dub dub.
Here is the video that Charisma reposted. It's over on Instagram which
is apparently where the original Natalie Morales video was posted.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DEyN9fuxW3K/?hl=en
https://www.instagram.com/nataliemoralesloves/?hl=en
Oh. Thanks, I appreciate the effort, but Google blocked me from Instagram.
On 2/5/2025 4:39 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:The Post Office and Elon Musk told them to.
On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 21:00:25 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:
shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 15:08:43 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
On Feb 4, 2025 at 10:03:28 AM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 17:39:56 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> >>>>>>>> wrote:
On Feb 4, 2025 at 7:48:47 AM PST, ""Ian J. Ball"" <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
On 2/4/25 7:35 AM, EGK wrote:
On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 07:07:49 -0800, "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid>
wrote:
On 2/3/25 11:10 PM, Robin Miller wrote:
Ian J. Ball wrote:
On 2/3/25 6:15 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
On 2/3/25 5:49 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
A lot of them are hitting Anim's magic "turned 40 or 50" age, which isCharisma lived in Pacific Palisades. I wonder if she still has a house?
when a lot of actresses pretty much quit the business. I get the >>>>>>>>>> impression that Charisma Carpenter is pretty much retired now. >>>>>>>>>
No idea. Just looked at her Instagram and it looks like she's spent >>>>>>>> the last month living in New York City. No mention of her home burning >>>>>>>> down while a number of other posts about the fire so I guess if she >>>>>>>> still lives in the Palisades her home is one that survived.
https://www.instagram.com/p/ClxBK_QL1oQ/?img_index=1
She could be living elsewhere now. It was like 10 years ago when I knew of her
living there.
She blocked me on Twitter years ago for correcting all the misinformation she
was posting in her anti-gun rants.
I haven’t seen a post from her on Twitter in years. She may have just >>>>>> stopped posting altogether.
LOL. To bring all this together, Charisma posted on Twitter on Feb 2, >>>>> 2025. I also noticed she reposted a video from Dub Dub, Natalie
Morales.
OK, well I wasn’t following charisma anymore. Looking over her posts I see
that she announced she was leaving X forever back in 2023. However, she >>>> doesn’t seem to have followed through on that threat. I don’t see the video
from Natalie Morales. Nor can I find Natalie Morales by searching. There’s
hundreds of them and nothing to differentiate our dub dub.
Here is the video that Charisma reposted. It's over on Instagram which
is apparently where the original Natalie Morales video was posted.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DEyN9fuxW3K/?hl=en
https://www.instagram.com/nataliemoralesloves/?hl=en
Oh. Thanks, I appreciate the effort, but Google blocked me from Instagram. >>
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
Is this going to be a geriatric Buffy trying to run around and do all the
gymnastics and whatnot that she used to as a teenager, or is she going to be >> kind of a Watcher type, mentoring a new young Slayer?
Either way, Sarah Michelle Gellar is still appealing and she still has
that little girl voice. In the latest Dexter tv series, she looks good.
I hope Dexter doesn't find a reason to murder her.
Robin Miller <robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote:
anim8rfsk wrote:
Robin Miller <robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote:
anim8rfsk wrote:
Robin Miller <robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Ian J. Ball wrote:
On 2/3/25 6:15 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
On 2/3/25 5:49 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
https://deadline.com/2025/02/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-reboot-sarah-michelle-gellar-hulu-pilot-chloe-zhao-1236273767/
‘Buffy The Vampire Slayer’ Reboot Starring Sarah Michelle Gellar >>>>>>>>>> Nears Hulu
Pilot Order With Chloé Zhao Directing
By Nellie Andreeva
February 3, 2025 12:30pm
More than two decades after Buffy the Vampire Slayer ended its >>>>>>>>>> seven-season
run, the beloved supernatural drama is eyeing a revival with a new >>>>>>>>>> chapter
in the franchise. A followup series is nearing a pilot order from Hulu,
with Sarah Michelle Gellar expected to star, reprising her signature >>>>>>>>>> role
as Buffy Summers, sources said. Oscar winner Chloé Zhao, a >>>>>>>>>> self-professed
lifelong Buffy fan, is set to direct the pilot, written by Nora and >>>>>>>>>> Lilla
Zuckerman (Poker Face).
The reboot hails from Buffy the Vampire Slayer studio 20th >>>>>>>>>> Television and
Disney sibling Searchlight TV where Zhao has been under a first-look >>>>>>>>>> deal.
Beyond the pilot order, I hear the reboot is starting a writers room >>>>>>>>>> soon,
a sign that Hulu and the studios have high expectations for the project
going to series. It is unclear yet whether other original Buffy cast >>>>>>>>>> members would return; that is considered likely.
Described as the next chapter in the Buffyverse,
Mostly by people who hadn’t read the authorized comic books
the new incarnation is
executive produced by Gellar, Zhao, Nora and Lilla Zuckerman as well >>>>>>>>>> as the
original series’ executive producers Gail Berman of the Jackal Group
and
Fran Kuzui & Kaz Kuzui via Suite B.
Those dirty leeches will bleed this property till the end of time. >>>>>>>> Thanks,
Directors union.
Also executive producing the pilot isYikes!
Dolly Parton whose company Sandollar was producer on the original. >>>>>>>>>
Buffy creator Joss Whedon, who also wrote the 1992 movie the series was
based on, has no involvement in the reboot. He has not worked in >>>>>>>>>> Hollywood
in any official capacity since facing a slew of misconduct >>>>>>>>>> allegations in
2021.
Duh.
Oh, the top of the link has a click about how they finally charged Neil
Gayman with some really ugly stuff.
Yep. Heard about thiat.
Well, this is better than Whedon's previous idea for a reboot. >>>>>>>>I don’t know about that?
It is.
But I'm
skeptical about the whole thing until somebody proves to me otherwise.
(Like, a good start, would be ignoring the last 4 seasons of the >>>>>>>>> original series and all of "Angel"!! ;p )
I don’t see how it can possibly be a reboot if Geller is playing Buffy.
"Reboot" is the wrong word. (Entertainment reporters are consistently >>>>>>> mentally deficient, not knowing the basic meaning of the terms they use!)
If Gellar is playing "older Buffy" (and esp. if other "Buffy" cast >>>>>>> members return), this would be a "revival" not a "reboot".
Ian (One we know won't be returning is Amber Benson. I would put heavy
odds against either Eliza Dushku or Michelle Trachtenberg returning >>>>>>> either.)
Why wouldn't Amber Benson return? Did she have a falling out with
someone? I know she's barely acting anymore, in any event.
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0072435/
She was in this Buffy podcast in 2023, along with several others of the >>>>>> original cast:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt29118106/
--Robin
And perhaps more importantly, she played dub dub in THE MIDDLEMAN!
(Well? I am waiting?)
Middleman!
But two questions:
You know that Natalie Morales played Dub Dub. So who are you referring to? >>>>
Back before Adam made Natalie hate me. I got all sorts of special project >>> stuff and extras from her. One of them was a crossover done as a table
read/radio play between the middleman comic book and the middleman TV show! >>> Amber Benson happens to look like the comic book dub dub, so they brought >>> her in and had both dub dubs in the video. Also, I believe there was a
comic book version of it.
What a great story! I had no idea there was a Middleman comic book.
Oh, yeah, it was an unfilmed TV pilot turned into a comic book before it
was TV and then it was a comic book based on TV. The first episode of the show the dialogue is almost verbatim from the comic.
History of the comic
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Middleman?wprov=sfti1
History of the TV show
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Middleman_(TV_series)?wprov=sfti1#
Volume one of the collected comic when dub dub still looked like Amber
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51-agLSDI4L._AC_UF1000,1000_QL80_.jpg
Volume three
https://s3.amazonaws.com/comicgeeks/comics/covers/large-6126332.jpg?1695517005
The senses shattering series finale with both dub dubs together again for
the first time!
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/819BlFcEQJL._AC_UL600_SR600,600_.jpg
--Robin
Is this going to be a geriatric Buffy trying to run around and do all the >gymnastics and whatnot that she used to as a teenager, or is she going to be >kind of a Watcher type, mentoring a new young Slayer?
. . .
The one I miss is Marsters. There is an actor with a similar name (can't >think of it now) and I always start to get interested, and then I
realize it's not Marsters.
anim8rfsk wrote:
Robin Miller <robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote:
anim8rfsk wrote:
Robin Miller <robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote:
anim8rfsk wrote:
Robin Miller <robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Ian J. Ball wrote:
On 2/3/25 6:15 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
On 2/3/25 5:49 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
https://deadline.com/2025/02/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-reboot-sarah-michelle-gellar-hulu-pilot-chloe-zhao-1236273767/
‘Buffy The Vampire Slayer’ Reboot Starring Sarah Michelle Gellar
Nears Hulu
Pilot Order With Chloé Zhao Directing
By Nellie Andreeva
February 3, 2025 12:30pm
More than two decades after Buffy the Vampire Slayer ended its >>>>>>>>>>> seven-season
run, the beloved supernatural drama is eyeing a revival with a new >>>>>>>>>>> chapter
in the franchise. A followup series is nearing a pilot order from Hulu,
with Sarah Michelle Gellar expected to star, reprising her signature
role
as Buffy Summers, sources said. Oscar winner Chloé Zhao, a >>>>>>>>>>> self-professed
lifelong Buffy fan, is set to direct the pilot, written by Nora and >>>>>>>>>>> Lilla
Zuckerman (Poker Face).
The reboot hails from Buffy the Vampire Slayer studio 20th >>>>>>>>>>> Television and
Disney sibling Searchlight TV where Zhao has been under a first-look
deal.
Beyond the pilot order, I hear the reboot is starting a writers room
soon,
a sign that Hulu and the studios have high expectations for the project
going to series. It is unclear yet whether other original Buffy cast
members would return; that is considered likely.
Described as the next chapter in the Buffyverse,
Mostly by people who hadn’t read the authorized comic books >>>>>>>>>
the new incarnation is
executive produced by Gellar, Zhao, Nora and Lilla Zuckerman as well
as the
original series’ executive producers Gail Berman of the Jackal Group
and
Fran Kuzui & Kaz Kuzui via Suite B.
Those dirty leeches will bleed this property till the end of time. >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
Directors union.
Also executive producing the pilot isYikes!
Dolly Parton whose company Sandollar was producer on the original. >>>>>>>>>>
Buffy creator Joss Whedon, who also wrote the 1992 movie the series was
based on, has no involvement in the reboot. He has not worked in >>>>>>>>>>> Hollywood
in any official capacity since facing a slew of misconduct >>>>>>>>>>> allegations in
2021.
Duh.
Oh, the top of the link has a click about how they finally charged Neil
Gayman with some really ugly stuff.
Yep. Heard about thiat.
Well, this is better than Whedon's previous idea for a reboot. >>>>>>>>>I don’t know about that?
It is.
But I'm
skeptical about the whole thing until somebody proves to me otherwise.
(Like, a good start, would be ignoring the last 4 seasons of the >>>>>>>>>> original series and all of "Angel"!! ;p )
I don’t see how it can possibly be a reboot if Geller is playing Buffy.
"Reboot" is the wrong word. (Entertainment reporters are consistently >>>>>>>> mentally deficient, not knowing the basic meaning of the terms they use!)
If Gellar is playing "older Buffy" (and esp. if other "Buffy" cast >>>>>>>> members return), this would be a "revival" not a "reboot".
Ian (One we know won't be returning is Amber Benson. I would put heavy
odds against either Eliza Dushku or Michelle Trachtenberg returning >>>>>>>> either.)
Why wouldn't Amber Benson return? Did she have a falling out with >>>>>>> someone? I know she's barely acting anymore, in any event.
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0072435/
She was in this Buffy podcast in 2023, along with several others of the >>>>>>> original cast:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt29118106/
--Robin
And perhaps more importantly, she played dub dub in THE MIDDLEMAN! >>>>>>
(Well? I am waiting?)
Middleman!
But two questions:
You know that Natalie Morales played Dub Dub. So who are you referring to?
Back before Adam made Natalie hate me. I got all sorts of special project >>>> stuff and extras from her. One of them was a crossover done as a table >>>> read/radio play between the middleman comic book and the middleman TV show!
Amber Benson happens to look like the comic book dub dub, so they brought >>>> her in and had both dub dubs in the video. Also, I believe there was a >>>> comic book version of it.
What a great story! I had no idea there was a Middleman comic book.
Oh, yeah, it was an unfilmed TV pilot turned into a comic book before it
was TV and then it was a comic book based on TV. The first episode of the
show the dialogue is almost verbatim from the comic.
History of the comic
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Middleman?wprov=sfti1
History of the TV show
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Middleman_(TV_series)?wprov=sfti1#
Volume one of the collected comic when dub dub still looked like Amber
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51-agLSDI4L._AC_UF1000,1000_QL80_.jpg
Volume three
https://s3.amazonaws.com/comicgeeks/comics/covers/large-6126332.jpg?1695517005
The senses shattering series finale with both dub dubs together again for
the first time!
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/819BlFcEQJL._AC_UL600_SR600,600_.jpg
--Robin
This is great stuff, thanks! I knew nothing about the comic.
What a shame about the show--why didn't people watch it? And it's a
shame that Matt Keeslar left acting. He acted for 16 years and Middleman
was the only regular role he ever had, and it was just 12 episodes. I
don't remember his guest spot in other shows, but he was in several
shows that I watched, so I must have seen him.
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0444832/
Acting is a tough business. There are so many actors. Every day in
stories on Deadline I see (lots of) names I've never heard of before.
--Robin
Feb 5, 2025 at 1:32:04 PM PST, Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com>:
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
Is this going to be a geriatric Buffy trying to run around and do all the >>>gymnastics and whatnot that she used to as a teenager, or is she going to be >>>kind of a Watcher type, mentoring a new young Slayer?
Either way, Sarah Michelle Gellar is still appealing and she still has
that little girl voice. In the latest Dexter tv series, she looks good.
I hope Dexter doesn't find a reason to murder her.
I agree Gellar looks good for her age and seems to have avoided the Hollywood >trap of turning herself into a version of the Joker with plastic surgery but I >don't like her character on DEXTER. She seems out of place; she doesn't gel >with the show, is the best way I can describe it. Christina Milian, on the >other hand, is fantastic casting as a young LaGuerta. She not only looks the >part, but she obviously studied the original show and has recreated the >character perfectly.
I also never recall thinking when I watched the original show how absurd it is >that the Miami-Dade Forensics Department is basically just a large closet off >the side of the homicide detective's bullpen. A major city like Miami? They'd >have their own building. How has Horatio Caine not thrown a fit over this?
https://deadline.com/2025/02/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-reboot-sarah-michelle-gellar-hulu-pilot-chloe-zhao-1236273767/
If the Hulu pilot goes to series, it would be the third in the franchise, >>following mothership Buffy the Vampire Slayer, which aired on the WB for >>five seasons from 1997-2001 before dramatically moving to UPN for two more
Why was the move to UPN 'dramatic'?
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
Feb 5, 2025 at 1:32:04 PM PST, Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com>:
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
Is this going to be a geriatric Buffy trying to run around and do all the >>>> gymnastics and whatnot that she used to as a teenager, or is she going to be
kind of a Watcher type, mentoring a new young Slayer?
Either way, Sarah Michelle Gellar is still appealing and she still has
that little girl voice. In the latest Dexter tv series, she looks good.
I hope Dexter doesn't find a reason to murder her.
I agree Gellar looks good for her age and seems to have avoided the Hollywood
trap of turning herself into a version of the Joker with plastic surgery but I
don't like her character on DEXTER. She seems out of place; she doesn't gel >> with the show, is the best way I can describe it. Christina Milian, on the >> other hand, is fantastic casting as a young LaGuerta. She not only looks the >> part, but she obviously studied the original show and has recreated the
character perfectly.
I agree. It's Lauren Velez de-aged. Also, I really like Molly Brown as teenage Deb, but it's a somewhat different character.
I also never recall thinking when I watched the original show how absurd it is
that the Miami-Dade Forensics Department is basically just a large closet off
the side of the homicide detective's bullpen. A major city like Miami? They'd
have their own building. How has Horatio Caine not thrown a fit over this?
In olden days when film was a thing, I worked for a retail photography
store that was also a supplier to big customers. We had the police department. Intelligence (the undercover photographers) were at the well-known former police precinct on Maxwell Street (now a police
station again for University of Illinois at Chicago), and the
crime-scene photographers were at the police headquarters complex, three adjacent buildings connected at upper levels whose floors didn't match.
The place was a joke, 'cuz there was also a courthouse (for felony arraignments but not trials) and a police precinct. Cops, prisoners,
lawyers, judges, and visitors all shared the same elevators.
There were police forensics sharing buildings with detectives at the
time. In the current system, in which detectives were removed from
police stations and placed into new Area police stations (that also had
a local police precinct and an arraignment courtroom), there are
certainly police forensics in those buildings shared with detectives.
The one thing I never bought about the original Dexter was the guy who
stuck his hands in the blood brought donuts for everyone. That was unappetising.
Robin Miller <robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote:
The one I miss is Marsters. There is an actor with a similar name (can't
think of it now) and I always start to get interested, and then I
realize it's not Marsters.
I remember thinking he played the live-action version of Prince Edward
in Enchanted (2007) but it turned out to be James Marsden.
Robin Miller <robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote:
The one I miss is Marsters. There is an actor with a similar name (can't
think of it now) and I always start to get interested, and then I
realize it's not Marsters.
I remember thinking he played the live-action version of Prince Edward
in Enchanted (2007) but it turned out to be James Marsden.
Many of these "diversity" and "equality" fools are not actually
interested in achiveing either and have zero understanding that they
are also being racist / sexist / etc. What many of these nutters
*really* want is special privleges for themselves at everyone else's
expense, especially against white males.
On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 17:39:56 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Feb 4, 2025 at 7:48:47 AM PST, ""Ian J. Ball"" <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
On 2/4/25 7:35 AM, EGK wrote:
On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 07:07:49 -0800, "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
On 2/3/25 11:10 PM, Robin Miller wrote:
Ian J. Ball wrote:
On 2/3/25 6:15 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
On 2/3/25 5:49 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
A lot of them are hitting Anim's magic "turned 40 or 50" age, which is
when a lot of actresses pretty much quit the business. I get the
impression that Charisma Carpenter is pretty much retired now.
Charisma lived in Pacific Palisades. I wonder if she still has a house?
No idea. Just looked at her Instagram and it looks like she's spent
the last month living in New York City. No mention of her home burning
down while a number of other posts about the fire so I guess if she
still lives in the Palisades her home is one that survived. https://www.instagram.com/p/ClxBK_QL1oQ/?img_index=1
On 2025-02-04 02:03 PM, shawn wrote:
On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 17:39:56 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Feb 4, 2025 at 7:48:47 AM PST, ""Ian J. Ball"" <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
A lot of them are hitting Anim's magic "turned 40 or 50" age, which is >>>> when a lot of actresses pretty much quit the business. I get the
impression that Charisma Carpenter is pretty much retired now.
Charisma lived in Pacific Palisades. I wonder if she still has a house?
No idea. Just looked at her Instagram and it looks like she's spent
the last month living in New York City. No mention of her home burning
down while a number of other posts about the fire so I guess if she
still lives in the Palisades her home is one that survived.
https://www.instagram.com/p/ClxBK_QL1oQ/?img_index=1
CC has been living in NY since Nov. 2023, at least according to her IG account.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DCIEZOGRUtV/
On 2025-02-16 21:02:19 +0000, Alan Smithee said:
On 2025-02-04 02:03 PM, shawn wrote:
On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 17:39:56 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Feb 4, 2025 at 7:48:47 AM PST, ""Ian J. Ball""No idea. Just looked at her Instagram and it looks like she's spent
<ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
A lot of them are hitting Anim's magic "turned 40 or 50" age, which is >>>>> when a lot of actresses pretty much quit the business. I get the
impression that Charisma Carpenter is pretty much retired now.
Charisma lived in Pacific Palisades. I wonder if she still has a house? >>>
the last month living in New York City. No mention of her home burning
down while a number of other posts about the fire so I guess if she
still lives in the Palisades her home is one that survived.
https://www.instagram.com/p/ClxBK_QL1oQ/?img_index=1
CC has been living in NY since Nov. 2023, at least according to her IG
account.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DCIEZOGRUtV/
As a 'celebrity', she probably owns about 10 houses all in different
places, but only actually lives in one of them.
On 2025-02-16 21:02:19 +0000, Alan Smithee said:
On 2025-02-04 02:03 PM, shawn wrote:
On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 17:39:56 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Feb 4, 2025 at 7:48:47 AM PST, ""Ian J. Ball"" <ijball@mac.invalid> >>>> wrote:No idea. Just looked at her Instagram and it looks like she's spent
A lot of them are hitting Anim's magic "turned 40 or 50" age, which is >>>>> when a lot of actresses pretty much quit the business. I get the
impression that Charisma Carpenter is pretty much retired now.
Charisma lived in Pacific Palisades. I wonder if she still has a house? >>>
the last month living in New York City. No mention of her home burning
down while a number of other posts about the fire so I guess if she
still lives in the Palisades her home is one that survived.
https://www.instagram.com/p/ClxBK_QL1oQ/?img_index=1
CC has been living in NY since Nov. 2023, at least according to her IG
account.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DCIEZOGRUtV/
As a 'celebrity', she probably owns about 10 houses all in different
places, but only actually lives in one of them.
On 2025-02-16 21:02:19 +0000, Alan Smithee said:
On 2025-02-04 02:03 PM, shawn wrote:
On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 17:39:56 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Feb 4, 2025 at 7:48:47 AM PST, ""Ian J. Ball""No idea. Just looked at her Instagram and it looks like she's spent
<ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
A lot of them are hitting Anim's magic "turned 40 or 50" age, which is >>>>> when a lot of actresses pretty much quit the business. I get the
impression that Charisma Carpenter is pretty much retired now.
Charisma lived in Pacific Palisades. I wonder if she still has a house? >>>
the last month living in New York City. No mention of her home burning
down while a number of other posts about the fire so I guess if she
still lives in the Palisades her home is one that survived.
https://www.instagram.com/p/ClxBK_QL1oQ/?img_index=1
CC has been living in NY since Nov. 2023, at least according to her IG
account.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DCIEZOGRUtV/
As a 'celebrity', she probably owns about 10 houses all in different
places, but only actually lives in one of them.
On 2/16/25 2:14 PM, Your Name wrote:
On 2025-02-16 21:02:19 +0000, Alan Smithee said:
On 2025-02-04 02:03 PM, shawn wrote:
On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 17:39:56 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Feb 4, 2025 at 7:48:47 AM PST, ""Ian J. Ball""
<ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
A lot of them are hitting Anim's magic "turned 40 or 50" age,
which is
when a lot of actresses pretty much quit the business. I get the
impression that Charisma Carpenter is pretty much retired now.
Charisma lived in Pacific Palisades. I wonder if she still has a
house?
No idea. Just looked at her Instagram and it looks like she's spent
the last month living in New York City. No mention of her home burning >>>> down while a number of other posts about the fire so I guess if she
still lives in the Palisades her home is one that survived.
https://www.instagram.com/p/ClxBK_QL1oQ/?img_index=1
CC has been living in NY since Nov. 2023, at least according to her
IG account.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DCIEZOGRUtV/
As a 'celebrity', she probably owns about 10 houses all in different
places, but only actually lives in one of them.
I'm doubting Charisma Carpenter was ever "big" enough for that. She
started out as a profession cheerleader (they get paid peanuts!), and
then never headlined her own TV show, instead just being supporting cast
in two shows.
My guess is that she did well enough to own a nice house in a place like L.A., but likely not better than that.
But she may have married "rich", I don't know...
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