• [OT] Brits try to identify the 50 US states on a map

    From Rhino@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 5 08:57:36 2025
    If you're in the mood for a bit of a laugh, you might like this video.
    Several teams of two Brits are given a map showing the 50 US states and
    are then given 10 minutes to label all of them. (They are also given a
    list of the states). They made some surprising guesses.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9GNf51_NvU [9 minutes]

    Several other videos in the same vein show up on my recommended list. I
    also saw one where Americans tried to pronounce British place names (NOT
    the easy ones like "London"), and another where Brits tried to pronounce American place names (again, NOT the easy ones). They're all in good fun.

    I like to think I could label quite a lot of the US states correctly but
    I know I'd have trouble with some. Then again, I'm not sure if most
    Americans would get them all correct either ;-)

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    Rhino

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  • From suzeeq@21:1/5 to Rhino on Wed Feb 5 07:21:48 2025
    On 2/5/2025 5:57 AM, Rhino wrote:
    If you're in the mood for a bit of a laugh, you might like this video. Several teams of two Brits are given a map showing the 50 US states and
    are then given 10 minutes to label all of them. (They are also given a
    list of the states). They made some surprising guesses.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9GNf51_NvU [9 minutes]

    Several other videos in the same vein show up on my recommended list. I
    also saw one where Americans tried to pronounce British place names (NOT
    the easy ones like "London"), and another where Brits tried to pronounce American place names (again, NOT the easy ones). They're all in good fun.

    I like to think I could label quite a lot of the US states correctly but
    I know I'd have trouble with some. Then again, I'm not sure if most
    Americans would get them all correct either ;-)

    I'd have a hard time placing all the English shires in the correct
    place, or even larger cities like Leeds and Birmingham. And I've looked
    up some of them on google maps.

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Rhino on Wed Feb 5 17:38:41 2025
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    If you're in the mood for a bit of a laugh, you might like this video. >Several teams of two Brits are given a map showing the 50 US states and
    are then given 10 minutes to label all of them. (They are also given a
    list of the states). They made some surprising guesses.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9GNf51_NvU [9 minutes]

    I'm impressed that several people picked out Wyoming.

    If I were to identify provinces and territories in Canada, on an
    unlabeled map without cities, I'd likely mix up Manitoba and Saskatewan.

    Several other videos in the same vein show up on my recommended list. I
    also saw one where Americans tried to pronounce British place names (NOT
    the easy ones like "London"), and another where Brits tried to pronounce >American place names (again, NOT the easy ones). They're all in good fun.

    I like to think I could label quite a lot of the US states correctly but
    I know I'd have trouble with some. Then again, I'm not sure if most
    Americans would get them all correct either ;-)

    Elementary schools tend to teach how to recognize states by shape. I
    don't know why as it's not a geography lesson.

    I could probably pick out two German states, perhaps half dozen French provinces, wouldn't recognize political subdivisions in Russia nor
    China. I could probably pick out half a dozen Indian states.

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to suzeeq on Wed Feb 5 12:46:29 2025
    On 2025-02-05 10:21 AM, suzeeq wrote:
    On 2/5/2025 5:57 AM, Rhino wrote:
    If you're in the mood for a bit of a laugh, you might like this video.
    Several teams of two Brits are given a map showing the 50 US states
    and are then given 10 minutes to label all of them. (They are also
    given a list of the states). They made some surprising guesses.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9GNf51_NvU [9 minutes]

    Several other videos in the same vein show up on my recommended list.
    I also saw one where Americans tried to pronounce British place names
    (NOT the easy ones like "London"), and another where Brits tried to
    pronounce American place names (again, NOT the easy ones). They're all
    in good fun.

    I like to think I could label quite a lot of the US states correctly
    but I know I'd have trouble with some. Then again, I'm not sure if
    most Americans would get them all correct either ;-)

    I'd have a hard time placing all the English shires in the correct
    place, or even larger cities like Leeds and Birmingham. And I've looked
    up some of them on google maps.

    You'd do better than me then! I can point to a few places that I've been
    but if you asked me where Lincolnshire is or what was in it, I'd have to
    look all of that up. Mind you, I understand the shires have no political significance at all: they don't function like states with their own governments. There are really just two levels of government, the federal government and local "councils" whose boundaries are not based on the
    shires.

    What about the 50 states? Could you label all of them correctly given a
    blank map? I think we're from the generation that actually had geography
    in school and learned that kind of thing but I have reason to doubt that
    the current generation of school children - and maybe the previous
    generation or two as well - got that same information.


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    Rhino

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  • From suzeeq@21:1/5 to Rhino on Wed Feb 5 10:04:37 2025
    On 2/5/2025 9:46 AM, Rhino wrote:
    On 2025-02-05 10:21 AM, suzeeq wrote:
    On 2/5/2025 5:57 AM, Rhino wrote:
    If you're in the mood for a bit of a laugh, you might like this
    video. Several teams of two Brits are given a map showing the 50 US
    states and are then given 10 minutes to label all of them. (They are
    also given a list of the states). They made some surprising guesses.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9GNf51_NvU [9 minutes]

    Several other videos in the same vein show up on my recommended list.
    I also saw one where Americans tried to pronounce British place names
    (NOT the easy ones like "London"), and another where Brits tried to
    pronounce American place names (again, NOT the easy ones). They're
    all in good fun.

    I like to think I could label quite a lot of the US states correctly
    but I know I'd have trouble with some. Then again, I'm not sure if
    most Americans would get them all correct either ;-)

    I'd have a hard time placing all the English shires in the correct
    place, or even larger cities like Leeds and Birmingham. And I've
    looked up some of them on google maps.

    You'd do better than me then! I can point to a few places that I've been
    but if you asked me where Lincolnshire is or what was in it, I'd have to
    look all of that up. Mind you, I understand the shires have no political significance at all: they don't function like states with their own governments. There are really just two levels of government, the federal government and local "councils" whose boundaries are not based on the
    shires.

    What about the 50 states? Could you label all of them correctly given a
    blank map? I think we're from the generation that actually had geography
    in school and learned that kind of thing but I have reason to doubt that
    the current generation of school children - and maybe the previous
    generation or two as well - got that same information.


    Yes I could do all 50 easily, though I might have to think about a
    couple of them. I actually read maps like a newspaper or magazine, as if
    I were planning a road trip or two.

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Wed Feb 5 13:19:43 2025
    On 2025-02-05 12:38 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    If you're in the mood for a bit of a laugh, you might like this video.
    Several teams of two Brits are given a map showing the 50 US states and
    are then given 10 minutes to label all of them. (They are also given a
    list of the states). They made some surprising guesses.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9GNf51_NvU [9 minutes]

    I'm impressed that several people picked out Wyoming.

    Some of their guesses about where things were showed considerable
    "creativity". Despite that, they did pretty well considering that they
    probably didn't study that in school.

    If I were to identify provinces and territories in Canada, on an
    unlabeled map without cities, I'd likely mix up Manitoba and Saskatewan.

    You missed a couple of letters: Saskatchewan ;-) I'll give you an easy
    way to recognize Saskatchewan: it's the one with 4 completely straight
    sides, the only province you can say that about.

    But yes, I take your point. None of this stuff is intuitively obvious or deducible in any way: you only know it if someone taught it to you or if
    you are interested in maps and learned it on your own.

    Several other videos in the same vein show up on my recommended list. I
    also saw one where Americans tried to pronounce British place names (NOT
    the easy ones like "London"), and another where Brits tried to pronounce
    American place names (again, NOT the easy ones). They're all in good fun.

    I like to think I could label quite a lot of the US states correctly but
    I know I'd have trouble with some. Then again, I'm not sure if most
    Americans would get them all correct either ;-)

    Elementary schools tend to teach how to recognize states by shape. I
    don't know why as it's not a geography lesson.

    In my opinion, it could just as easily be a part of a history lesson as
    a geography lesson.

    I enjoyed that series "How the States Got Their Shapes" a few years
    back. It shared a lot of semi-forgotten information about the formation
    of the states.

    I should track down a blank map of the US and see how many of the states
    I could get right. I know that even when I get some wrong they'll be in
    the right region; I won't be putting Delaware on the West Coast. :-)

    I could probably pick out two German states, perhaps half dozen French provinces, wouldn't recognize political subdivisions in Russia nor
    China. I could probably pick out half a dozen Indian states.

    I'm impressed. I know a fair bit of history and can name some of their political subdivisions but I'd have trouble telling you exactly where
    most of the German states are or ANY of the many French ones are and
    I've been in both countries. I could name some Indian states and pick
    out Kerala on a map because I know a guy from there but if you put the proverbial gun to my head and demanded to know were Uttar Pradesh was,
    I'd lose. For the former Soviet Union, I know where the "stans"
    (Uzbekistan, et. al) are but I expect I'd mix them up if trying to label
    them on a blank map. For Putin's Russia, I really couldn't identify many
    of the "internal republics" and oblasts. I really couldn't do much of
    China either, just one or two places that have been in the news.

    --
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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to suzeeq on Wed Feb 5 13:22:30 2025
    On 2025-02-05 1:04 PM, suzeeq wrote:
    On 2/5/2025 9:46 AM, Rhino wrote:
    On 2025-02-05 10:21 AM, suzeeq wrote:
    On 2/5/2025 5:57 AM, Rhino wrote:
    If you're in the mood for a bit of a laugh, you might like this
    video. Several teams of two Brits are given a map showing the 50 US
    states and are then given 10 minutes to label all of them. (They are
    also given a list of the states). They made some surprising guesses.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9GNf51_NvU [9 minutes]

    Several other videos in the same vein show up on my recommended
    list. I also saw one where Americans tried to pronounce British
    place names (NOT the easy ones like "London"), and another where
    Brits tried to pronounce American place names (again, NOT the easy
    ones). They're all in good fun.

    I like to think I could label quite a lot of the US states correctly
    but I know I'd have trouble with some. Then again, I'm not sure if
    most Americans would get them all correct either ;-)

    I'd have a hard time placing all the English shires in the correct
    place, or even larger cities like Leeds and Birmingham. And I've
    looked up some of them on google maps.

    You'd do better than me then! I can point to a few places that I've
    been but if you asked me where Lincolnshire is or what was in it, I'd
    have to look all of that up. Mind you, I understand the shires have no
    political significance at all: they don't function like states with
    their own governments. There are really just two levels of government,
    the federal government and local "councils" whose boundaries are not
    based on the shires.

    What about the 50 states? Could you label all of them correctly given
    a blank map? I think we're from the generation that actually had
    geography in school and learned that kind of thing but I have reason
    to doubt that the current generation of school children - and maybe
    the previous generation or two as well - got that same information.


    Yes I could do all 50 easily, though I might have to think about a
    couple of them. I actually read maps like a newspaper or magazine, as if
    I were planning a road trip or two.

    Excellent! I'm a fan of maps too. They're cool :-)

    --
    Rhino

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to suzeeq on Thu Feb 6 09:04:18 2025
    On 2025-02-05 15:21:48 +0000, suzeeq said:
    On 2/5/2025 5:57 AM, Rhino wrote:

    If you're in the mood for a bit of a laugh, you might like this video.
    Several teams of two Brits are given a map showing the 50 US states and
    are then given 10 minutes to label all of them. (They are also given a
    list of the states). They made some surprising guesses.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9GNf51_NvU [9 minutes]

    Several other videos in the same vein show up on my recommended list. I
    also saw one where Americans tried to pronounce British place names
    (NOT the easy ones like "London"), and another where Brits tried to
    pronounce American place names (again, NOT the easy ones). They're all
    in good fun.

    I like to think I could label quite a lot of the US states correctly
    but I know I'd have trouble with some. Then again, I'm not sure if most
    Americans would get them all correct either ;-)

    I'd have a hard time placing all the English shires in the correct
    place, or even larger cities like Leeds and Birmingham. And I've looked
    up some of them on google maps.

    Many Americans would have a hard time finding the entire UK on a map.

    Depending on which "study" you want to believe, 6% to "one third" of
    (young) adult Americans can't even find the USA on a map - and they
    live there!!

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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to Rhino on Wed Feb 5 16:07:34 2025
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2025-02-05 10:21 AM, suzeeq wrote:
    On 2/5/2025 5:57 AM, Rhino wrote:
    If you're in the mood for a bit of a laugh, you might like this video.
    Several teams of two Brits are given a map showing the 50 US states
    and are then given 10 minutes to label all of them. (They are also
    given a list of the states). They made some surprising guesses.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9GNf51_NvU [9 minutes]

    Several other videos in the same vein show up on my recommended list.
    I also saw one where Americans tried to pronounce British place names
    (NOT the easy ones like "London"), and another where Brits tried to
    pronounce American place names (again, NOT the easy ones). They're all
    in good fun.

    I like to think I could label quite a lot of the US states correctly
    but I know I'd have trouble with some. Then again, I'm not sure if
    most Americans would get them all correct either ;-)

    I'd have a hard time placing all the English shires in the correct
    place, or even larger cities like Leeds and Birmingham. And I've looked
    up some of them on google maps.

    You'd do better than me then! I can point to a few places that I've been
    but if you asked me where Lincolnshire is or what was in it, I'd have to
    look all of that up. Mind you, I understand the shires have no political significance at all: they don't function like states with their own governments. There are really just two levels of government, the federal government and local "councils" whose boundaries are not based on the
    shires.

    What about the 50 states? Could you label all of them correctly given a
    blank map?

    That was actually something we had to do as a test in either late grade
    school or early high school.

    So I could’ve done it 55 years ago, but I doubt I’d get more than half of them now. I’d be able to fill in the borders like doing a jigsaw puzzle,
    but the middle would remain empty.

    This is the perfect example of the stuff we complained about learning in
    school that we would never ever need to know and we were right.


    I think we're from the generation that actually had geography
    in school and learned that kind of thing but I have reason to doubt that
    the current generation of school children - and maybe the previous
    generation or two as well - got that same information.





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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 5 19:32:19 2025
    On 2025-02-05 6:07 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2025-02-05 10:21 AM, suzeeq wrote:
    On 2/5/2025 5:57 AM, Rhino wrote:
    If you're in the mood for a bit of a laugh, you might like this video. >>>> Several teams of two Brits are given a map showing the 50 US states
    and are then given 10 minutes to label all of them. (They are also
    given a list of the states). They made some surprising guesses.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9GNf51_NvU [9 minutes]

    Several other videos in the same vein show up on my recommended list.
    I also saw one where Americans tried to pronounce British place names
    (NOT the easy ones like "London"), and another where Brits tried to
    pronounce American place names (again, NOT the easy ones). They're all >>>> in good fun.

    I like to think I could label quite a lot of the US states correctly
    but I know I'd have trouble with some. Then again, I'm not sure if
    most Americans would get them all correct either ;-)

    I'd have a hard time placing all the English shires in the correct
    place, or even larger cities like Leeds and Birmingham. And I've looked
    up some of them on google maps.

    You'd do better than me then! I can point to a few places that I've been
    but if you asked me where Lincolnshire is or what was in it, I'd have to
    look all of that up. Mind you, I understand the shires have no political
    significance at all: they don't function like states with their own
    governments. There are really just two levels of government, the federal
    government and local "councils" whose boundaries are not based on the
    shires.

    What about the 50 states? Could you label all of them correctly given a
    blank map?

    That was actually something we had to do as a test in either late grade school or early high school.

    So I could’ve done it 55 years ago, but I doubt I’d get more than half of them now. I’d be able to fill in the borders like doing a jigsaw puzzle, but the middle would remain empty.

    This is the perfect example of the stuff we complained about learning in school that we would never ever need to know and we were right.

    I wonder if we were wise beyond our years or just too lazy to want to
    work that hard for something that didn't seem useful to know....

    In any case it really isn't particularly useful to be able to identify
    all 50 states EXCEPT for random quizzes like this one. Education systems
    should not be geared towards teaching useless stuff.

    I think we're from the generation that actually had geography
    in school and learned that kind of thing but I have reason to doubt that
    the current generation of school children - and maybe the previous
    generation or two as well - got that same information.







    --
    Rhino

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  • From shawn@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 5 19:50:58 2025
    On Wed, 5 Feb 2025 16:07:34 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
    wrote:

    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2025-02-05 10:21 AM, suzeeq wrote:
    On 2/5/2025 5:57 AM, Rhino wrote:
    If you're in the mood for a bit of a laugh, you might like this video. >>>> Several teams of two Brits are given a map showing the 50 US states
    and are then given 10 minutes to label all of them. (They are also
    given a list of the states). They made some surprising guesses.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9GNf51_NvU [9 minutes]

    Several other videos in the same vein show up on my recommended list.
    I also saw one where Americans tried to pronounce British place names
    (NOT the easy ones like "London"), and another where Brits tried to
    pronounce American place names (again, NOT the easy ones). They're all >>>> in good fun.

    I like to think I could label quite a lot of the US states correctly
    but I know I'd have trouble with some. Then again, I'm not sure if
    most Americans would get them all correct either ;-)

    I'd have a hard time placing all the English shires in the correct
    place, or even larger cities like Leeds and Birmingham. And I've looked
    up some of them on google maps.

    You'd do better than me then! I can point to a few places that I've been
    but if you asked me where Lincolnshire is or what was in it, I'd have to
    look all of that up. Mind you, I understand the shires have no political
    significance at all: they don't function like states with their own
    governments. There are really just two levels of government, the federal
    government and local "councils" whose boundaries are not based on the
    shires.

    What about the 50 states? Could you label all of them correctly given a
    blank map?

    That was actually something we had to do as a test in either late grade >school or early high school.

    So I could’ve done it 55 years ago, but I doubt I’d get more than half of >them now. I’d be able to fill in the borders like doing a jigsaw puzzle, >but the middle would remain empty.

    I think that's the case for everyone in the USA. That they at some
    point in school needed to learn all the states. I could do most of
    them correctly now but I doubt I could get all 50 right.

    This is the perfect example of the stuff we complained about learning in >school that we would never ever need to know and we were right.


    I think we're from the generation that actually had geography
    in school and learned that kind of thing but I have reason to doubt that
    the current generation of school children - and maybe the previous
    generation or two as well - got that same information.



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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Your Name on Wed Feb 5 17:40:58 2025
    On 2/5/2025 12:04 PM, Your Name wrote:
    On 2025-02-05 15:21:48 +0000, suzeeq said:
    On 2/5/2025 5:57 AM, Rhino wrote:

    If you're in the mood for a bit of a laugh, you might like this
    video. Several teams of two Brits are given a map showing the 50 US
    states and are then given 10 minutes to label all of them. (They are
    also given a list of the states). They made some surprising guesses.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9GNf51_NvU [9 minutes]

    Several other videos in the same vein show up on my recommended list.
    I also saw one where Americans tried to pronounce British place names
    (NOT the easy ones like "London"), and another where Brits tried to
    pronounce American place names (again, NOT the easy ones). They're
    all in good fun.

    I like to think I could label quite a lot of the US states correctly
    but I know I'd have trouble with some. Then again, I'm not sure if
    most Americans would get them all correct either ;-)

    I'd have a hard time placing all the English shires in the correct
    place, or even larger cities like Leeds and Birmingham. And I've
    looked up some of them on google maps.

    Many Americans would have a hard time finding the entire UK on a map.

    Depending on which "study" you want to believe, 6% to "one third" of
    (young) adult Americans can't even find the USA on a map - and they live there!!

    So why would they need to find it on a map? :P

    --
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    dirty old man.

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  • From suzeeq@21:1/5 to Rhino on Wed Feb 5 17:50:54 2025
    On 2/5/2025 10:22 AM, Rhino wrote:
    On 2025-02-05 1:04 PM, suzeeq wrote:
    On 2/5/2025 9:46 AM, Rhino wrote:
    On 2025-02-05 10:21 AM, suzeeq wrote:
    On 2/5/2025 5:57 AM, Rhino wrote:
    If you're in the mood for a bit of a laugh, you might like this
    video. Several teams of two Brits are given a map showing the 50 US
    states and are then given 10 minutes to label all of them. (They
    are also given a list of the states). They made some surprising
    guesses.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9GNf51_NvU [9 minutes]

    Several other videos in the same vein show up on my recommended
    list. I also saw one where Americans tried to pronounce British
    place names (NOT the easy ones like "London"), and another where
    Brits tried to pronounce American place names (again, NOT the easy
    ones). They're all in good fun.

    I like to think I could label quite a lot of the US states
    correctly but I know I'd have trouble with some. Then again, I'm
    not sure if most Americans would get them all correct either ;-)

    I'd have a hard time placing all the English shires in the correct
    place, or even larger cities like Leeds and Birmingham. And I've
    looked up some of them on google maps.

    You'd do better than me then! I can point to a few places that I've
    been but if you asked me where Lincolnshire is or what was in it, I'd
    have to look all of that up. Mind you, I understand the shires have
    no political significance at all: they don't function like states
    with their own governments. There are really just two levels of
    government, the federal government and local "councils" whose
    boundaries are not based on the shires.

    What about the 50 states? Could you label all of them correctly given
    a blank map? I think we're from the generation that actually had
    geography in school and learned that kind of thing but I have reason
    to doubt that the current generation of school children - and maybe
    the previous generation or two as well - got that same information.


    Yes I could do all 50 easily, though I might have to think about a
    couple of them. I actually read maps like a newspaper or magazine, as
    if I were planning a road trip or two.

    Excellent! I'm a fan of maps too. They're cool :-)

    Yeah and they're better for an overall picture of things with more
    detail than google maps zoomed out.

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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to Rhino on Wed Feb 5 23:19:30 2025
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2025-02-05 6:07 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2025-02-05 10:21 AM, suzeeq wrote:
    On 2/5/2025 5:57 AM, Rhino wrote:
    If you're in the mood for a bit of a laugh, you might like this video. >>>>> Several teams of two Brits are given a map showing the 50 US states
    and are then given 10 minutes to label all of them. (They are also
    given a list of the states). They made some surprising guesses.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9GNf51_NvU [9 minutes]

    Several other videos in the same vein show up on my recommended list. >>>>> I also saw one where Americans tried to pronounce British place names >>>>> (NOT the easy ones like "London"), and another where Brits tried to
    pronounce American place names (again, NOT the easy ones). They're all >>>>> in good fun.

    I like to think I could label quite a lot of the US states correctly >>>>> but I know I'd have trouble with some. Then again, I'm not sure if
    most Americans would get them all correct either ;-)

    I'd have a hard time placing all the English shires in the correct
    place, or even larger cities like Leeds and Birmingham. And I've looked >>>> up some of them on google maps.

    You'd do better than me then! I can point to a few places that I've been >>> but if you asked me where Lincolnshire is or what was in it, I'd have to >>> look all of that up. Mind you, I understand the shires have no political >>> significance at all: they don't function like states with their own
    governments. There are really just two levels of government, the federal >>> government and local "councils" whose boundaries are not based on the
    shires.

    What about the 50 states? Could you label all of them correctly given a
    blank map?

    That was actually something we had to do as a test in either late grade
    school or early high school.

    So I could’ve done it 55 years ago, but I doubt I’d get more than half of
    them now. I’d be able to fill in the borders like doing a jigsaw puzzle, >> but the middle would remain empty.

    This is the perfect example of the stuff we complained about learning in
    school that we would never ever need to know and we were right.

    I wonder if we were wise beyond our years or just too lazy to want to
    work that hard for something that didn't seem useful to know....

    In any case it really isn't particularly useful to be able to identify
    all 50 states EXCEPT for random quizzes like this one. Education systems should not be geared towards teaching useless stuff.


    But boy howdy are they ever.

    Like “to be or not to be“ from Hamlet. We had to memorize it and got points for each line of it we could write down in a pop quiz. But none of it meant
    a thing to us.


    I think we're from the generation that actually had geography
    in school and learned that kind of thing but I have reason to doubt that >>> the current generation of school children - and maybe the previous
    generation or two as well - got that same information.










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  • From Nyssa@21:1/5 to Rhino on Thu Feb 6 09:53:39 2025
    Rhino wrote:

    On 2025-02-05 1:04 PM, suzeeq wrote:
    On 2/5/2025 9:46 AM, Rhino wrote:
    On 2025-02-05 10:21 AM, suzeeq wrote:
    On 2/5/2025 5:57 AM, Rhino wrote:
    If you're in the mood for a bit of a laugh, you might
    like this video. Several teams of two Brits are given
    a map showing the 50 US states and are then given 10
    minutes to label all of them. (They are also given a
    list of the states). They made some surprising
    guesses.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9GNf51_NvU [9
    minutes]

    Several other videos in the same vein show up on my
    recommended list. I also saw one where Americans tried
    to pronounce British place names (NOT the easy ones
    like "London"), and another where Brits tried to
    pronounce American place names (again, NOT the easy
    ones). They're all in good fun.

    I like to think I could label quite a lot of the US
    states correctly but I know I'd have trouble with
    some. Then again, I'm not sure if most Americans would
    get them all correct either ;-)

    I'd have a hard time placing all the English shires in
    the correct place, or even larger cities like Leeds and
    Birmingham. And I've looked up some of them on google
    maps.

    You'd do better than me then! I can point to a few
    places that I've been but if you asked me where
    Lincolnshire is or what was in it, I'd have to look all
    of that up. Mind you, I understand the shires have no
    political significance at all: they don't function like
    states with their own governments. There are really just
    two levels of government, the federal government and
    local "councils" whose boundaries are not based on the
    shires.

    What about the 50 states? Could you label all of them
    correctly given a blank map? I think we're from the
    generation that actually had geography in school and
    learned that kind of thing but I have reason to doubt
    that the current generation of school children - and
    maybe the previous generation or two as well - got that
    same information.


    Yes I could do all 50 easily, though I might have to
    think about a couple of them. I actually read maps like a
    newspaper or magazine, as if I were planning a road trip
    or two.

    Excellent! I'm a fan of maps too. They're cool :-)


    Ditto! I've got a nice collection of state, city, and
    a few country maps I've gathered over the years, plus
    if someone I know is travelling. I ask them to pick up
    a state/local map (freebie ones from visitor centers are
    perfect) whenever they can for me.

    When I'm reading a book set in an area I don't know well,
    I like to get out a map of the area and get a feel for
    the area. It makes the book more memorable (and sometimes
    more understandable for history books).

    Nyssa, who prefers her easily referenced paper maps to
    online ones too

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  • From suzeeq@21:1/5 to Nyssa on Thu Feb 6 08:15:01 2025
    On 2/6/2025 6:53 AM, Nyssa wrote:
    Rhino wrote:

    On 2025-02-05 1:04 PM, suzeeq wrote:
    On 2/5/2025 9:46 AM, Rhino wrote:
    On 2025-02-05 10:21 AM, suzeeq wrote:
    On 2/5/2025 5:57 AM, Rhino wrote:
    If you're in the mood for a bit of a laugh, you might
    like this video. Several teams of two Brits are given
    a map showing the 50 US states and are then given 10
    minutes to label all of them. (They are also given a
    list of the states). They made some surprising
    guesses.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9GNf51_NvU [9
    minutes]

    Several other videos in the same vein show up on my
    recommended list. I also saw one where Americans tried
    to pronounce British place names (NOT the easy ones
    like "London"), and another where Brits tried to
    pronounce American place names (again, NOT the easy
    ones). They're all in good fun.

    I like to think I could label quite a lot of the US
    states correctly but I know I'd have trouble with
    some. Then again, I'm not sure if most Americans would
    get them all correct either ;-)

    I'd have a hard time placing all the English shires in
    the correct place, or even larger cities like Leeds and
    Birmingham. And I've looked up some of them on google
    maps.

    You'd do better than me then! I can point to a few
    places that I've been but if you asked me where
    Lincolnshire is or what was in it, I'd have to look all
    of that up. Mind you, I understand the shires have no
    political significance at all: they don't function like
    states with their own governments. There are really just
    two levels of government, the federal government and
    local "councils" whose boundaries are not based on the
    shires.

    What about the 50 states? Could you label all of them
    correctly given a blank map? I think we're from the
    generation that actually had geography in school and
    learned that kind of thing but I have reason to doubt
    that the current generation of school children - and
    maybe the previous generation or two as well - got that
    same information.


    Yes I could do all 50 easily, though I might have to
    think about a couple of them. I actually read maps like a
    newspaper or magazine, as if I were planning a road trip
    or two.

    Excellent! I'm a fan of maps too. They're cool :-)


    Ditto! I've got a nice collection of state, city, and
    a few country maps I've gathered over the years, plus
    if someone I know is travelling. I ask them to pick up
    a state/local map (freebie ones from visitor centers are
    perfect) whenever they can for me.

    When I'm reading a book set in an area I don't know well,
    I like to get out a map of the area and get a feel for
    the area. It makes the book more memorable (and sometimes
    more understandable for history books).

    I do that too!

    Nyssa, who prefers her easily referenced paper maps to
    online ones too

    Online can be okay if you don't have a real map though.

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 6 23:52:20 2025
    On Feb 6, 2025 at 3:29:56 PM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    On 2025-02-06 1:19 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2025-02-05 6:07 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    What about the 50 states? Could you label all of them correctly given a >>>>> blank map?

    That was actually something we had to do as a test in either late grade >>>> school or early high school.

    So I could've done it 55 years ago, but I doubt I'd get more than half of >>>> them now. I'd be able to fill in the borders like doing a jigsaw puzzle, >>>> but the middle would remain empty.

    This is the perfect example of the stuff we complained about learning in >>>> school that we would never ever need to know and we were right.

    I wonder if we were wise beyond our years or just too lazy to want to
    work that hard for something that didn't seem useful to know....

    In any case it really isn't particularly useful to be able to identify
    all 50 states EXCEPT for random quizzes like this one. Education systems >>> should not be geared towards teaching useless stuff.


    But boy howdy are they ever.

    Like "to be or not to be" from Hamlet. We had to memorize it and got points >> for each line of it we could write down in a pop quiz. But none of it meant >> a thing to us.

    We had to do a Shakespeare every year of high school and I don't
    remember ANYONE enjoying it: we just did our best to endure it.

    I know that almost EVERYONE says he's the greatest writer ever - even
    people I respect enormously like Solzhenitsyn - but I've never really understood why Shakespeare is thought to be so brilliant.

    I suspect Shakespeare is taught mostly because of his reputation and the idea/hope that if they inflict Shakespeare on every single student, some
    of his insight will be magically transferred to the student and make him
    a better person.

    I might appreciate him more as an adult if I were to give him another
    try but I'd still need one of the high school editions where the "translations" (explanations of the words he's using) are on every line, otherwise I suspect it would be akin to reading Sanskrit.

    Heathen!

    Ignorance is the curse of God;
    Knowledge the wing wherewith we fly to heaven.

    --Henry VI, Part 1

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 6 18:29:56 2025
    On 2025-02-06 1:19 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2025-02-05 6:07 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2025-02-05 10:21 AM, suzeeq wrote:
    On 2/5/2025 5:57 AM, Rhino wrote:
    If you're in the mood for a bit of a laugh, you might like this video. >>>>>> Several teams of two Brits are given a map showing the 50 US states >>>>>> and are then given 10 minutes to label all of them. (They are also >>>>>> given a list of the states). They made some surprising guesses.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9GNf51_NvU [9 minutes]

    Several other videos in the same vein show up on my recommended list. >>>>>> I also saw one where Americans tried to pronounce British place names >>>>>> (NOT the easy ones like "London"), and another where Brits tried to >>>>>> pronounce American place names (again, NOT the easy ones). They're all >>>>>> in good fun.

    I like to think I could label quite a lot of the US states correctly >>>>>> but I know I'd have trouble with some. Then again, I'm not sure if >>>>>> most Americans would get them all correct either ;-)

    I'd have a hard time placing all the English shires in the correct
    place, or even larger cities like Leeds and Birmingham. And I've looked >>>>> up some of them on google maps.

    You'd do better than me then! I can point to a few places that I've been >>>> but if you asked me where Lincolnshire is or what was in it, I'd have to >>>> look all of that up. Mind you, I understand the shires have no political >>>> significance at all: they don't function like states with their own
    governments. There are really just two levels of government, the federal >>>> government and local "councils" whose boundaries are not based on the
    shires.

    What about the 50 states? Could you label all of them correctly given a >>>> blank map?

    That was actually something we had to do as a test in either late grade
    school or early high school.

    So I could’ve done it 55 years ago, but I doubt I’d get more than half of
    them now. I’d be able to fill in the borders like doing a jigsaw puzzle, >>> but the middle would remain empty.

    This is the perfect example of the stuff we complained about learning in >>> school that we would never ever need to know and we were right.

    I wonder if we were wise beyond our years or just too lazy to want to
    work that hard for something that didn't seem useful to know....

    In any case it really isn't particularly useful to be able to identify
    all 50 states EXCEPT for random quizzes like this one. Education systems
    should not be geared towards teaching useless stuff.


    But boy howdy are they ever.

    Like “to be or not to be“ from Hamlet. We had to memorize it and got points
    for each line of it we could write down in a pop quiz. But none of it meant
    a thing to us.

    We had to do a Shakespeare every year of high school and I don't
    remember ANYONE enjoying it: we just did our best to endure it.

    I know that almost EVERYONE says he's the greatest writer ever - even
    people I respect enormously like Solzhenitsyn - but I've never really understood why Shakespeare is thought to be so brilliant.

    I suspect Shakespeare is taught mostly because of his reputation and the idea/hope that if they inflict Shakespeare on every single student, some
    of his insight will be magically transferred to the student and make him
    a better person.

    I might appreciate him more as an adult if I were to give him another
    try but I'd still need one of the high school editions where the
    "translations" (explanations of the words he's using) are on every line, otherwise I suspect it would be akin to reading Sanskrit.

    I think we're from the generation that actually had geography
    in school and learned that kind of thing but I have reason to doubt that >>>> the current generation of school children - and maybe the previous
    generation or two as well - got that same information.












    --
    Rhino

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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Thu Feb 6 18:23:36 2025
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    On Feb 6, 2025 at 3:29:56 PM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    On 2025-02-06 1:19 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2025-02-05 6:07 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    What about the 50 states? Could you label all of them correctly given a >>>>>> blank map?

    That was actually something we had to do as a test in either late grade >>>>> school or early high school.

    So I could've done it 55 years ago, but I doubt I'd get more than half of >>>>> them now. I'd be able to fill in the borders like doing a jigsaw puzzle, >>>>> but the middle would remain empty.

    This is the perfect example of the stuff we complained about learning in >>>>> school that we would never ever need to know and we were right.

    I wonder if we were wise beyond our years or just too lazy to want to
    work that hard for something that didn't seem useful to know....

    In any case it really isn't particularly useful to be able to identify >>>> all 50 states EXCEPT for random quizzes like this one. Education systems >>>> should not be geared towards teaching useless stuff.


    But boy howdy are they ever.

    Like "to be or not to be" from Hamlet. We had to memorize it and got points >>> for each line of it we could write down in a pop quiz. But none of it meant >>> a thing to us.

    We had to do a Shakespeare every year of high school and I don't
    remember ANYONE enjoying it: we just did our best to endure it.

    I know that almost EVERYONE says he's the greatest writer ever - even
    people I respect enormously like Solzhenitsyn - but I've never really
    understood why Shakespeare is thought to be so brilliant.

    I suspect Shakespeare is taught mostly because of his reputation and the
    idea/hope that if they inflict Shakespeare on every single student, some
    of his insight will be magically transferred to the student and make him
    a better person.

    I might appreciate him more as an adult if I were to give him another
    try but I'd still need one of the high school editions where the
    "translations" (explanations of the words he's using) are on every line,
    otherwise I suspect it would be akin to reading Sanskrit.

    Heathen!

    Ignorance is the curse of God;
    Knowledge the wing wherewith we fly to heaven.

    --Henry VI, Part 1

    I’ll believe it when Barbara Anderson says it to me.

    By the way, I got a Star Trek book from my favorite Star Trek author, Chris Cox, that’s a sequel to Conscience of the King



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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to Rhino on Thu Feb 6 18:23:38 2025
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2025-02-06 1:19 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2025-02-05 6:07 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2025-02-05 10:21 AM, suzeeq wrote:
    On 2/5/2025 5:57 AM, Rhino wrote:
    If you're in the mood for a bit of a laugh, you might like this video. >>>>>>> Several teams of two Brits are given a map showing the 50 US states >>>>>>> and are then given 10 minutes to label all of them. (They are also >>>>>>> given a list of the states). They made some surprising guesses.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9GNf51_NvU [9 minutes]

    Several other videos in the same vein show up on my recommended list. >>>>>>> I also saw one where Americans tried to pronounce British place names >>>>>>> (NOT the easy ones like "London"), and another where Brits tried to >>>>>>> pronounce American place names (again, NOT the easy ones). They're all >>>>>>> in good fun.

    I like to think I could label quite a lot of the US states correctly >>>>>>> but I know I'd have trouble with some. Then again, I'm not sure if >>>>>>> most Americans would get them all correct either ;-)

    I'd have a hard time placing all the English shires in the correct >>>>>> place, or even larger cities like Leeds and Birmingham. And I've looked >>>>>> up some of them on google maps.

    You'd do better than me then! I can point to a few places that I've been >>>>> but if you asked me where Lincolnshire is or what was in it, I'd have to >>>>> look all of that up. Mind you, I understand the shires have no political >>>>> significance at all: they don't function like states with their own
    governments. There are really just two levels of government, the federal >>>>> government and local "councils" whose boundaries are not based on the >>>>> shires.

    What about the 50 states? Could you label all of them correctly given a >>>>> blank map?

    That was actually something we had to do as a test in either late grade >>>> school or early high school.

    So I could’ve done it 55 years ago, but I doubt I’d get more than half of
    them now. I’d be able to fill in the borders like doing a jigsaw puzzle, >>>> but the middle would remain empty.

    This is the perfect example of the stuff we complained about learning in >>>> school that we would never ever need to know and we were right.

    I wonder if we were wise beyond our years or just too lazy to want to
    work that hard for something that didn't seem useful to know....

    In any case it really isn't particularly useful to be able to identify
    all 50 states EXCEPT for random quizzes like this one. Education systems >>> should not be geared towards teaching useless stuff.


    But boy howdy are they ever.

    Like “to be or not to be“ from Hamlet. We had to memorize it and got points
    for each line of it we could write down in a pop quiz. But none of it meant >> a thing to us.

    We had to do a Shakespeare every year of high school and I don't
    remember ANYONE enjoying it: we just did our best to endure it.

    I know that almost EVERYONE says he's the greatest writer ever - even
    people I respect enormously like Solzhenitsyn - but I've never really understood why Shakespeare is thought to be so brilliant.


    Ditto

    I suspect Shakespeare is taught mostly because of his reputation and the idea/hope that if they inflict Shakespeare on every single student, some
    of his insight will be magically transferred to the student and make him
    a better person.

    I might appreciate him more as an adult if I were to give him another
    try but I'd still need one of the high school editions where the "translations" (explanations of the words he's using) are on every line, otherwise I suspect it would be akin to reading Sanskrit.

    I think we're from the generation that actually had geography
    in school and learned that kind of thing but I have reason to doubt that >>>>> the current generation of school children - and maybe the previous
    generation or two as well - got that same information.















    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

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  • From super70s@21:1/5 to Rhino on Thu Feb 6 20:34:27 2025
    XPost: alt.politics.uk

    On 2025-02-05 18:19:43 +0000, Rhino said:

    On 2025-02-05 12:38 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    If you're in the mood for a bit of a laugh, you might like this video.
    Several teams of two Brits are given a map showing the 50 US states and
    are then given 10 minutes to label all of them. (They are also given a
    list of the states). They made some surprising guesses.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9GNf51_NvU [9 minutes]

    I'm impressed that several people picked out Wyoming.

    Some of their guesses about where things were showed considerable "creativity". Despite that, they did pretty well considering that they probably didn't study that in school.

    I bet the Brits could get this simple question right: "What borders on stupidity?"

    Canada and Mexico.

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 6 22:53:04 2025
    On 2/6/2025 8:23 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2025-02-06 1:19 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2025-02-05 6:07 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2025-02-05 10:21 AM, suzeeq wrote:
    On 2/5/2025 5:57 AM, Rhino wrote:
    If you're in the mood for a bit of a laugh, you might like this video. >>>>>>>> Several teams of two Brits are given a map showing the 50 US states >>>>>>>> and are then given 10 minutes to label all of them. (They are also >>>>>>>> given a list of the states). They made some surprising guesses. >>>>>>>>
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9GNf51_NvU [9 minutes]

    Several other videos in the same vein show up on my recommended list. >>>>>>>> I also saw one where Americans tried to pronounce British place names >>>>>>>> (NOT the easy ones like "London"), and another where Brits tried to >>>>>>>> pronounce American place names (again, NOT the easy ones). They're all >>>>>>>> in good fun.

    I like to think I could label quite a lot of the US states correctly >>>>>>>> but I know I'd have trouble with some. Then again, I'm not sure if >>>>>>>> most Americans would get them all correct either ;-)

    I'd have a hard time placing all the English shires in the correct >>>>>>> place, or even larger cities like Leeds and Birmingham. And I've looked >>>>>>> up some of them on google maps.

    You'd do better than me then! I can point to a few places that I've been >>>>>> but if you asked me where Lincolnshire is or what was in it, I'd have to >>>>>> look all of that up. Mind you, I understand the shires have no political >>>>>> significance at all: they don't function like states with their own >>>>>> governments. There are really just two levels of government, the federal >>>>>> government and local "councils" whose boundaries are not based on the >>>>>> shires.

    What about the 50 states? Could you label all of them correctly given a >>>>>> blank map?

    That was actually something we had to do as a test in either late grade >>>>> school or early high school.

    So I could’ve done it 55 years ago, but I doubt I’d get more than half of
    them now. I’d be able to fill in the borders like doing a jigsaw puzzle,
    but the middle would remain empty.

    This is the perfect example of the stuff we complained about learning in >>>>> school that we would never ever need to know and we were right.

    I wonder if we were wise beyond our years or just too lazy to want to
    work that hard for something that didn't seem useful to know....

    In any case it really isn't particularly useful to be able to identify >>>> all 50 states EXCEPT for random quizzes like this one. Education systems >>>> should not be geared towards teaching useless stuff.


    But boy howdy are they ever.

    Like “to be or not to be“ from Hamlet. We had to memorize it and got points
    for each line of it we could write down in a pop quiz. But none of it meant >>> a thing to us.

    We had to do a Shakespeare every year of high school and I don't
    remember ANYONE enjoying it: we just did our best to endure it.

    I know that almost EVERYONE says he's the greatest writer ever - even
    people I respect enormously like Solzhenitsyn - but I've never really
    understood why Shakespeare is thought to be so brilliant.


    Ditto
    ...

    I don't know how many *try* to write Shakespeare-ianly nowadays, but I'm nevertheless guessing that nobody's coming close:

    When, in disgrace with fortune and men’s eyes,
    I all alone beweep my outcast state,
    And trouble deaf heaven with my bootless cries,
    And look upon myself and curse my fate,
    Wishing me like to one more rich in hope,
    Featured like him, like him with friends possessed,
    Desiring this man’s art and that man’s scope,
    With what I most enjoy contented least;
    Yet in these thoughts myself almost despising,
    Haply I think on thee, and then my state,
    (Like to the lark at break of day arising
    From sullen earth) sings hymns at heaven’s gate;
    For thy sweet love remembered such wealth brings
    That then I scorn to change my state with kings.

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to super70s@super70s.invalid on Fri Feb 7 04:28:02 2025
    super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
    2025-02-05 18:19:43 +0000, Rhino said:
    On 2025-02-05 12:38 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    If you're in the mood for a bit of a laugh, you might like this video. >>>>Several teams of two Brits are given a map showing the 50 US states and >>>>are then given 10 minutes to label all of them. (They are also given a >>>>list of the states). They made some surprising guesses.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9GNf51_NvU [9 minutes]

    I'm impressed that several people picked out Wyoming.

    Some of their guesses about where things were showed considerable >>"creativity". Despite that, they did pretty well considering that they >>probably didn't study that in school.

    I bet the Brits could get this simple question right: "What borders on >stupidity?"

    Canada and Mexico.

    Lovely. A second plagarist in this newsgroup.

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 7 18:50:53 2025
    On 2025-02-07 01:23:38 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2025-02-06 1:19 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2025-02-05 6:07 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    That was actually something we had to do as a test in either late grade >>>>> school or early high school.

    So I could’ve done it 55 years ago, but I doubt I’d get more than half
    of them now. I’d be able to fill in the borders like doing a jigsaw >>>>> puzzle, but the middle would remain empty.

    This is the perfect example of the stuff we complained about learning >>>>> in school that we would never ever need to know and we were right.

    I wonder if we were wise beyond our years or just too lazy to want to
    work that hard for something that didn't seem useful to know....

    In any case it really isn't particularly useful to be able to identify >>>> all 50 states EXCEPT for random quizzes like this one. Education systems >>>> should not be geared towards teaching useless stuff.

    But boy howdy are they ever.

    Like “to be or not to be“ from Hamlet. We had to memorize it and got >>> points for each line of it we could write down in a pop quiz. But none
    of it meant a thing to us.

    We had to do a Shakespeare every year of high school and I don't
    remember ANYONE enjoying it: we just did our best to endure it.

    I know that almost EVERYONE says he's the greatest writer ever - even
    people I respect enormously like Solzhenitsyn - but I've never really
    understood why Shakespeare is thought to be so brilliant.

    Ditto

    Pretty much all the supposed "classic" books and movies are absolute
    garbage. The only way they get anybosy to read / watch them is by
    pointlessly forcing high school kids to do it.




    I suspect Shakespeare is taught mostly because of his reputation and the
    idea/hope that if they inflict Shakespeare on every single student, some
    of his insight will be magically transferred to the student and make him
    a better person.

    I might appreciate him more as an adult if I were to give him another
    try but I'd still need one of the high school editions where the
    "translations" (explanations of the words he's using) are on every line,
    otherwise I suspect it would be akin to reading Sanskrit.

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to moviePig on Fri Feb 7 19:04:32 2025
    On 2025-02-07 03:53:04 +0000, moviePig said:
    On 2/6/2025 8:23 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2025-02-06 1:19 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2025-02-05 6:07 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:

    That was actually something we had to do as a test in either late grade >>>>>> school or early high school.

    So I could’ve done it 55 years ago, but I doubt I’d get more than half
    of them now. I’d be able to fill in the borders like doing a jigsaw >>>>>> puzzle, but the middle would remain empty.

    This is the perfect example of the stuff we complained about learning >>>>>> in school that we would never ever need to know and we were right.

    I wonder if we were wise beyond our years or just too lazy to want to >>>>> work that hard for something that didn't seem useful to know....

    In any case it really isn't particularly useful to be able to identify >>>>> all 50 states EXCEPT for random quizzes like this one. Education
    systems should not be geared towards teaching useless stuff.

    But boy howdy are they ever.

    Like “to be or not to be“ from Hamlet. We had to memorize it and got >>>> points for each line of it we could write down in a pop quiz. But none >>>> of it meant a thing to us.

    We had to do a Shakespeare every year of high school and I don't
    remember ANYONE enjoying it: we just did our best to endure it.

    I know that almost EVERYONE says he's the greatest writer ever - even
    people I respect enormously like Solzhenitsyn - but I've never really
    understood why Shakespeare is thought to be so brilliant.

    Ditto
    ...

    I don't know how many *try* to write Shakespeare-ianly nowadays, but
    I'm nevertheless guessing that nobody's coming close:
    <snip>

    There is a series of Star Wars books written as though by Shakespeare
    and available as audio books. I have no idea why or how close they are,
    since I've never even looked at them - it *is* Shakepeeare(esque) and
    therefore something I avoid it like the plague despite being a huge
    Star Wars fan.

    Original Trilogy
    - William Shakespeare's Star Wars: Verily, A New Hope
    - William Shakespeare's The Empire Striketh Back: Star Wars Part the Fifth
    - William Shakespeare's The Jedi Doth Return: Star Wars Part the Sixth
    - William Shakespeare's Star Wars Trilogy: The Royal Imperial Boxed Set

    Prequel Trilogy
    - William Shakespeare's The Phantom of Menace: Star Wars Part the First
    - William Shakespeare's The Clone Army Attacketh: Star Wars Part the Second
    - William Shakespeare's Tragedy of the Sith's Revenge: Star Wars Part
    the Third

    Sequel Trilogy
    - William Shakespeare's The Force Doth Awaken: Star Wars Part the Seventh
    - William Shakespeare's Jedi the Last: Star Wars Part the Eighth
    - William Shakespeare's The Merry Rise of Skywalker: Star Wars Part the Ninth

    <https://www.amazon.com/s?k=william+shakespeare+star+wars>



    There is at least one Shakespeare(esque) Star Trek story as well.

    - The Klingon Hamlet
    <https://www.amazon.com/Klingon-Hamlet-William-Shakespeare/dp/0671035789>


    Probably a whole load more such silly books as well. :-\

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to no_offline_contact@example.com on Fri Feb 7 13:11:07 2025
    On Wed, 5 Feb 2025 08:57:36 -0500, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    If you're in the mood for a bit of a laugh, you might like this video. >Several teams of two Brits are given a map showing the 50 US states and
    are then given 10 minutes to label all of them. (They are also given a
    list of the states). They made some surprising guesses.

    That's ridiculous - I'm pretty sure I would get at least 45 right with
    a good shot at all 50.

    But then my father was certain I'd opt for US citizenship when I was
    21 (I didn't get the chance to for reasons I've stated previously) and
    insisted I learn "what a US citizens needs to know". His father felt
    likewise though not as persistent since another of his 6 children also
    married a Canadian.

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to no_offline_contact@example.com on Fri Feb 7 13:13:14 2025
    On Wed, 5 Feb 2025 13:19:43 -0500, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    If I were to identify provinces and territories in Canada, on an
    unlabeled map without cities, I'd likely mix up Manitoba and Saskatewan.

    You missed a couple of letters: Saskatchewan ;-) I'll give you an easy
    way to recognize Saskatchewan: it's the one with 4 completely straight
    sides, the only province you can say that about.

    Having lived in Winnipeg for 4 years I'm pretty sure I wouldn't
    confuse SK and MB. I might mess up on the Territories but then the NWT
    has been divided since my school days.

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to ahk@chinet.com on Mon Feb 10 09:30:45 2025
    On Fri, 7 Feb 2025 04:28:02 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    I bet the Brits could get this simple question right: "What borders on >>stupidity?"

    Canada and Mexico.

    Lovely. A second plagarist in this newsgroup.

    So what's the citation on this? (If it's plagiarism there's surely a
    link to the original somewhere right?)

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to The Horny Goat on Mon Feb 10 18:03:34 2025
    The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
    Fri, 7 Feb 2025 04:28:02 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com>:

    I bet the Brits could get this simple question right: "What borders on >>>stupidity?"

    Canada and Mexico.

    Lovely. A second plagarist in this newsgroup.

    So what's the citation on this? (If it's plagiarism there's surely a
    link to the original somewhere right?)

    I never saw the original. I saw the same gag elsewhere on Usenet.

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