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https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/11/donald-trump-15-most- dangerous-statements/675970/


November 13, 2023
Trump Isn’t Merely Unhinged

Many of his recent statements illustrate a profoundly un-American set of
ideas.

November 13, 2023, 7:30 AM ET

With apologies to a certain newspaper’s slogan, many of Donald Trump’s
most dangerous statements hide in the plain light of day.

The problem is not that they don’t get reported on—they do—but even so,
they are easy to tune out, perhaps because he’s been saying outlandish
things for so long that people simply can’t bring themselves to parse the
new ones; or perhaps because they’ve become accustomed, or at least numb,
to his utterances; or perhaps because they don’t want to let him occupy
their headspace; or perhaps because he got kicked off Twitter (now X) and
they had no interest in joining Truth Social. Or maybe it’s because the
more sinister material gets mixed up with his strange elocutions (“We’re
gonna have a great country—it’s gonna be called the United States of
America”), contrarian hot takes (“You know, Hezbollah is very smart.
They’re all very smart”), and gibberish (“All of these indictments that
you see—I was never indicted. Practically never heard the word. It wasn’t
a word that registered”).

From the November 2023 issue: How we got ‘democracy dies in darkness’

Whatever the case may be, Trump has continued to make plainly dangerous
and stunning remarks. Notwithstanding his rival Governor Ron DeSantis’s
recent claim that Trump has “lost the zip on his fastball,” the former president continues to produce substantive ideas—which is not to say they
are wise or prudent, but they are certainly more than gibberish. In fact,
much of what Trump is discussing is un-American, not merely in the sense
of being antithetical to some imagined national set of mores, but in that
his ideas contravene basic principles of the Constitution or other
bedrock bases of American government.

They are the sorts of ideas that would have been shocking to hear from
any mainstream politician just a decade ago. And yet, today,
Trump—arguably the single most influential figure in the United
States—says these things, and they hardly register. Consider the
following examples, all from just the past few months:
1. Promised to destroy the federal government as we know it.

Trump has been promising in speeches to “demolish the deep state.” What
he means by that is to end the federal government as it exists today, eliminating the civil-service jobs that have been in place since the late
19th century. This is clear because former Trump aides who are designing
the effort, part of a sort of shadow government housed at conservative
think tanks, are open about what they have in mind, as my colleague
Russell Berman reports: a federal workforce that can be fired by the
president at will and must follow his personal whims. That would be a
major departure from the current system, where employees are permanent professionals who work for administrations of both parties and are meant
to focus on effective implementation, rather than political hacks chosen
for their loyalty.
2. Argued that a presidential candidate should be immune from
prosecution.

While attempting to dodge the 91 criminal indictments against him, Trump
argued in a July 10 court filing that he shouldn’t have to deal with the
hassle of a federal trial, because running for president “requires a
tremendous amount of time and energy.” This goes directly against the
idea that no U.S. citizen is above the law.
3. Insulted and attempted to intimidate judges, prosecutors, witnesses,
and others.

Trump hasn’t just made arguments in court related to the criminal and
civil cases against him; he has also produced a steady stream of
invective directed at anyone involved in the cases, to the point of
seeking to intimidate witnesses, court staff, and even prosecutors’
family members. Subjects of his threats include the federal judge Tanya Chutkan; New York Justice Arthur Engoron; Engoron’s law clerk (for which
Trump was slapped with a gag order); New York Attorney General Letitia
James, including his inscrutable and maybe racist nickname for her; Mark Meadows, the former White House chief of staff and a possible witness;
Special Counsel Jack Smith; and even Smith’s wife, a documentary
filmmaker. Smith’s team successfully convinced Chutkan that some of these infractions could threaten the likelihood of a fair trial, and she
ordered Trump to stop, though she permitted him to attack her and
President Joe Biden, among others, and to call his prosecution political.
Trump appealed the order but lost, then promptly attacked another
potential witness, former Attorney General Bill Barr. (An appeals court
has now paused the order once more.)
4. Continued to claim that the election was stolen.

Trump continues to insist, despite presenting no real evidence and losing
every relevant court case, that he actually won the 2020 election. “I
don’t consider us to have much of a democracy right now,” he said on Meet
the Press on September 17. Perversely, Trump now has some incentive to
keep lying about the election rather than acknowledge that he lost: Part
of Smith’s case is premised on the idea that Trump knew he had been
defeated. A functioning democracy depends on the consent of the losers; throughout U.S. history, losers of elections have sometimes grumbled
fiercely and other times taken losses gracefully, but none has ever tried
to stay in office and then continued to claim he was the rightful winner
in the manner Trump has.

Read: Democracy depends on the consent of losers
5. Excused the January 6 riot.

On Meet the Press and elsewhere, Trump has continued to excuse the riot
on January 6, 2021, and to argue that people charged in the riots are
political prisoners. He told the Meet the Press moderator, Kristen
Welker, that he might pardon people convicted of federal crimes for their involvement in the assault on the seat of U.S. government: “Well, I’m
going to look at them, and I certainly might if I think it’s appropriate.
No, it’s a very, very sad thing. And it’s—they’re dividing the country so badly, and it’s very dangerous.” He has since referred to these people as “hostages,” a description that makes sense only if you find the very idea
of policing the insurrection illegitimate.
6. Entertained pardoning himself.

Trump also continues to flirt with the idea of granting himself a pardon, typically saying he doesn’t see any need for it but refusing to rule it
out. Most mainstream scholars say a self-pardon is probably not
constitutional and certainly not something the framers intended.
7. Menaced American Jews for not voting for him.

During Rosh Hashanah, on September 17, Trump shared a meme that read,
“Just a reminder for liberal Jews who voted to destroy America & Israel
because you believed false narratives! Let’s hope you learned from your
mistake & make better choices going forward!” As my colleague Yair
Rosenberg wrote, Trump has often made such offensive remarks about the loyalties—perceived or desired—of American Jews, but this was
“particularly ugly in the way it deliberately singled out a specific constituency during that constituency’s holiest season.”
8. Suggested executing Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley.

Apparently outraged by the Atlantic editor in chief Jeffrey Goldberg’s
profile of General Mark Milley, whom Trump appointed chairman of the
Joint Chiefs of Staff, Trump on September 22 accused Milley of treason
and suggested that he deserved the death penalty. “This guy turned out to
be a Woke train wreck who, if the Fake News reporting is correct, was
actually dealing with China to give them a heads up on the thinking of
the President of the United States. This is an act so egregious that, in
times gone by, the punishment would have been DEATH!” Trump wrote.
Trump’s loose and sloppy treason accusations have always undermined the Constitution, and many past comments like this have precipitated threats
and even attacks from Trump supporters.
9. Accused NBC of treason and threatened to pull it off the air.

Trump has never had any interest in upholding the First Amendment, but
his remarks on September 24 were unusually sharp. Trump wrote that NBC
News, and especially MSNBC, “should be investigated for its ‘Country Threatening Treason.’ Why should NBC, or any other of the corrupt &
dishonest media companies, be entitled to use the very valuable Airwaves
of the USA, FREE? They are a true threat to Democracy and are, in fact,
THE ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE!” This sort of demonization of the press is
dangerous per se—as demonstrated by attacks on journalists—as are Trump’s casual accusations of treason, but this one carries a clear threat to try
to use the power of the federal government to punish a news organization
for reporting he doesn’t like. This contradicts even the most limited,
basic understanding of the importance of a free press, as protected by
the First Amendment. (Set aside the dissonance of saying this shortly
after granting an in-depth interview to NBC News!)
10. Promised to lock up political opponents.

During a September 28 interview, Trump said he would imprison his
political adversaries if he is reelected. Glenn Beck asked Trump, “You
said in 2016, you know, ‘Lock her up.’ And then when you became
president, you said, ‘We don’t do that in America.’ That’s just not the
right thing to do. That’s what they’re doing. Do you regret not locking
her up? And if you’re president again, will you lock people up?” Trump
replied, “Uh, the answer is you have no choice because they’re doing it
to us.” Because Trump believes, or claims to believe, that he is being prosecuted for purely political reasons, he’s vowing to go after his
political opponents for the crime of being his political opponents—a
violation of both free-speech and due-process protections.
11. Recommended extrajudicial executions.

At a rally two days later, on September 30, Trump once again advocated
going around the criminal-justice system to administer vigilante
punishment. “Very simply, if you rob a store, you can fully expect to be
shot as you are leaving that store,” he told the California Republican
Party, adding: “Shot!” (The Associated Press, either too nonchalantly or
with dry understatement, described it this way: “Trump animates
California Republicans with calls to shoot people who rob stores.”) This,
too, violates the basic concept of due process for accused criminals.
12. Called for a judge overseeing his case to be prosecuted.

Among Trump’s many fulminations against Justice Engoron, Trump told
reporters on October 2 not only that the judge should be removed from the bench, but that he should face prosecution—for no apparent crime other
than being assigned to Trump’s case and ruling against Trump. “This is a
judge that should be disbarred,” he said. “This is a judge that should be
out of office. This is a judge that some people say could be charged
criminally for what he’s doing. He’s interfering with an election.”

David A. Graham: Donald Trump is any defense attorney’s nightmare
13. Told voters not to bother voting.

During an October 23 rally in New Hampshire, Trump told attendees, “You
don’t have to vote, don’t worry about voting. The voting, we got plenty
of votes, you gotta watch.” As is sometimes the case with Trump, it’s
hard to tell whether this is intended as a joke; or a statement that if
all votes were counted, he would win; or as some sort of intimation of
stealing the election himself. In any case, discouraging civic
participation contradicts the basic principle of a government by, for,
and of the people.
14. Celebrated the antidemocratic strongman Viktor Orbán.

At the same rally, Trump talked about his love for one of the most
repressive leaders in Europe: “There’s a man, Viktor Orbán, did anyone
ever hear of him? He’s probably, like, one of the strongest leaders
anywhere in the world. He’s the leader of Turkey,” Trump said, adding
that he had a “front” on Russia. In fact, Orbán is the leader of Hungary
(Trump later corrected himself), and neither country shares a border with Russia. More to the point, Orbán—who proudly describes himself as “illiberal”—is an authoritarian who has become a darling of the Trumpist
right, as my colleague Anne Applebaum has explained.
15. Promised to indict Joe Biden.

The biggest headlines out of Trump’s October 29 rally in Sioux City,
Iowa, came from his confusing the city with Sioux Falls, South Dakota—the
sort of slipup that undermines his attacks on Biden as senile. But the
more substantively disturbing thing Trump said at the rally was that his
own indictments would give him permission to politically prosecute his predecessor. “They brought our country to a new level, and, but that allows—think of this—that allows us to do it to Biden, when he gets out,”
Trump said. “And that would be very easy.”

In a Univision interview that aired November 9, he added: “They have done something that allows the next party—I mean, if somebody, if I happen to
be president and I see somebody who’s doing well and beating me very
badly, I say ‘Go down and indict them.’ They’d be out of business, they’d
be out of the election.” This goes beyond Trump’s suggestion of going
after his opponents in a general way. Few things could be more directly
counter to the idea of a democratic republic, and more redolent of a
failed state, than a pretextual prosecution of one’s predecessor.

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