• [OT] Dubious deportation ruling in the UK

    From Rhino@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 13 11:54:44 2025
    A British tribunal made a bizarre ruling on a proposed deportation of an Albanian man and his family: they decided against deportation because
    the man's son doesn't like European chicken nuggets and will only eat
    British chicken nuggets. The tribunal apparently thought it would be
    beyond cruel to make this kid eat non-British nuggets!

    Both Leo Kearse and the BlackBeltBarrister have made videos on this case expressing their astonishment:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnXDsozZawM [7 minutes] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1C0ByXGs2w [10 minutes]

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    Rhino

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to Rhino on Thu Feb 13 12:44:13 2025
    On 2/13/2025 11:54 AM, Rhino wrote:
    A British tribunal made a bizarre ruling on a proposed deportation of an Albanian man and his family: they decided against deportation because
    the man's son doesn't like European chicken nuggets and will only eat
    British chicken nuggets. The tribunal apparently thought it would be
    beyond cruel to make this kid eat non-British nuggets!

    Both Leo Kearse and the BlackBeltBarrister have made videos on this case expressing their astonishment:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnXDsozZawM [7 minutes] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1C0ByXGs2w [10 minutes]

    What are the chances that a lot more (i.e., more convincing) evidence of expected hardship was introduced ...of which "chicken nuggets" was just
    an incidental mention during extensive testimony? Any?

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to moviePig on Thu Feb 13 15:08:07 2025
    On 2025-02-13 12:44 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 2/13/2025 11:54 AM, Rhino wrote:
    A British tribunal made a bizarre ruling on a proposed deportation of
    an Albanian man and his family: they decided against deportation
    because the man's son doesn't like European chicken nuggets and will
    only eat British chicken nuggets. The tribunal apparently thought it
    would be beyond cruel to make this kid eat non-British nuggets!

    Both Leo Kearse and the BlackBeltBarrister have made videos on this
    case expressing their astonishment:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnXDsozZawM [7 minutes]
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1C0ByXGs2w [10 minutes]

    What are the chances that a lot more (i.e., more convincing) evidence of expected hardship was introduced ...of which "chicken nuggets" was just
    an incidental mention during extensive testimony?  Any?


    Watch the second video and try to find ANY further grounds for
    preventing deportation. The presenter of that video is a practising
    lawyer and seems shocked at the ruling.

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    Rhino

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to Rhino on Thu Feb 13 17:11:39 2025
    On 2/13/2025 3:08 PM, Rhino wrote:
    On 2025-02-13 12:44 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 2/13/2025 11:54 AM, Rhino wrote:
    A British tribunal made a bizarre ruling on a proposed deportation of
    an Albanian man and his family: they decided against deportation
    because the man's son doesn't like European chicken nuggets and will
    only eat British chicken nuggets. The tribunal apparently thought it
    would be beyond cruel to make this kid eat non-British nuggets!

    Both Leo Kearse and the BlackBeltBarrister have made videos on this
    case expressing their astonishment:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnXDsozZawM [7 minutes]
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1C0ByXGs2w [10 minutes]

    What are the chances that a lot more (i.e., more convincing) evidence
    of expected hardship was introduced ...of which "chicken nuggets" was
    just an incidental mention during extensive testimony?  Any?


    Watch the second video and try to find ANY further grounds for
    preventing deportation. The presenter of that video is a practising
    lawyer and seems shocked at the ruling.

    Even as the on-screen document (4:30) is referring to "chicken nuggets"
    as an *example*, your commentator is calling them a *principle*.
    ("...that was the only principle upon which this decision turned.")
    That's a willful misrepresentation, as it quite clearly is just the only example given of a much broader and more palatable *principle*. Decide
    for yourself whether that's deceptive ...i.e., whether we should suspect
    (as I do) that other examples were offered in court, though someone
    chose to include only one in the report. Note also the abundance of
    evidence offered that the kid in question is 'special needs' ...which,
    if true, is by itself a near-guarantee of a separation's harshness.

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to moviePig on Thu Feb 13 18:21:01 2025
    On 2025-02-13 5:11 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 2/13/2025 3:08 PM, Rhino wrote:
    On 2025-02-13 12:44 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 2/13/2025 11:54 AM, Rhino wrote:
    A British tribunal made a bizarre ruling on a proposed deportation
    of an Albanian man and his family: they decided against deportation
    because the man's son doesn't like European chicken nuggets and will
    only eat British chicken nuggets. The tribunal apparently thought it
    would be beyond cruel to make this kid eat non-British nuggets!

    Both Leo Kearse and the BlackBeltBarrister have made videos on this
    case expressing their astonishment:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnXDsozZawM [7 minutes]
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1C0ByXGs2w [10 minutes]

    What are the chances that a lot more (i.e., more convincing) evidence
    of expected hardship was introduced ...of which "chicken nuggets" was
    just an incidental mention during extensive testimony?  Any?


    Watch the second video and try to find ANY further grounds for
    preventing deportation. The presenter of that video is a practising
    lawyer and seems shocked at the ruling.

    Even as the on-screen document (4:30) is referring to "chicken nuggets"
    as an *example*, your commentator is calling them a *principle*.
    ("...that was the only principle upon which this decision turned.")
    That's a willful misrepresentation, as it quite clearly is just the only example given of a much broader and more palatable *principle*.  Decide
    for yourself whether that's deceptive ...i.e., whether we should suspect
    (as I do) that other examples were offered in court, though someone
    chose to include only one in the report.  Note also the abundance of evidence offered that the kid in question is 'special needs' ...which,
    if true, is by itself a near-guarantee of a separation's harshness.


    You want there to be additional reasons for stopping the deportation so
    you just read into the presentation whatever reasons YOU need to satisfy yourself that stopping the deportation was the right thing to do.


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    Rhino

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to Rhino on Thu Feb 13 18:36:25 2025
    On 2/13/2025 6:21 PM, Rhino wrote:
    On 2025-02-13 5:11 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 2/13/2025 3:08 PM, Rhino wrote:
    On 2025-02-13 12:44 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 2/13/2025 11:54 AM, Rhino wrote:
    A British tribunal made a bizarre ruling on a proposed deportation
    of an Albanian man and his family: they decided against deportation
    because the man's son doesn't like European chicken nuggets and
    will only eat British chicken nuggets. The tribunal apparently
    thought it would be beyond cruel to make this kid eat non-British
    nuggets!

    Both Leo Kearse and the BlackBeltBarrister have made videos on this
    case expressing their astonishment:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnXDsozZawM [7 minutes]
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1C0ByXGs2w [10 minutes]

    What are the chances that a lot more (i.e., more convincing)
    evidence of expected hardship was introduced ...of which "chicken
    nuggets" was just an incidental mention during extensive testimony?
    Any?


    Watch the second video and try to find ANY further grounds for
    preventing deportation. The presenter of that video is a practising
    lawyer and seems shocked at the ruling.

    Even as the on-screen document (4:30) is referring to "chicken
    nuggets" as an *example*, your commentator is calling them a
    *principle*. ("...that was the only principle upon which this decision
    turned.") That's a willful misrepresentation, as it quite clearly is
    just the only example given of a much broader and more palatable
    *principle*.  Decide for yourself whether that's deceptive ...i.e.,
    whether we should suspect (as I do) that other examples were offered
    in court, though someone chose to include only one in the report.
    Note also the abundance of evidence offered that the kid in question
    is 'special needs' ...which, if true, is by itself a near-guarantee of
    a separation's harshness.


    You want there to be additional reasons for stopping the deportation so
    you just read into the presentation whatever reasons YOU need to satisfy yourself that stopping the deportation was the right thing to do.

    I went there to confirm that the deportation wasn't stopped because the
    kid doesn't like Albanian chicken nuggets. I have no idea whether
    deportation was "the right thing to do", whatever that depends on.

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