• Law & Order "Duty to Protect" 2/13/2025 (spoilers)

    From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 14 07:44:38 2025
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    This episode seemed very familiar. It seemed like a script repurposed
    from an episode of SVU that I must have seen. Even Elizabeth Marvel
    pokes her nose in.

    Abigail Spencer is this week's guest defendant, mother of the victim,
    wasted in a dreadfully written script.

    A product model is taping a commercial for a cleaning product/personal protection/skin care product (It does it all!) Gosh, she looks 16.
    That's 'cuz she is.

    Of course she's tonight's murder victim. Riley and Shaw have a stilted discussion, being required to forgo the gallows humor due to the age of
    the victim. Hey! Briscoe and Green never stopped cracking wise.

    Shaw doesn't get to browbeat anybody with P.C.

    It's the usual one thing leads to another plot. Various witnesses give excellent description of other people. There's a blond, perfectly clean homeless boy. Hey! They interviewed him with a lawyer, following the
    law!

    In a canvass, one woman recalls the victim AND the man she had an
    argument with and where he was standing, smoking! We're all predicting
    that Riley will find the cigarette butt which he does. This leads them
    to an armed limo driver whom Lt. Brady has no trouble intimidating. He
    didn't kill her but confronted her over a video recommending that kids
    perform dangerous stunts; his own son had a heart attack from consuming significant amounts of caffeine per her instructions.

    Huh. The little darling was kind of a terrible person.

    They find a credit card receipt from the stepfather, breaking his
    alibi. But they can't find motive till a video the victim shot in which
    she accuses her stepfather of raping her repeated at age 14.

    The video hadn't been made public yet.

    Now, here's where the episode goes from relentlessly mediocre and
    derivative to STOOPID. First of all, it's a surprise that the man is the stepfather. A real cop gathering the most basic background information
    about a murdered missing person unidentified for days would ask about
    parentage and first and second marriages.

    The mother is off putting, some sort of prominent feminist film director
    who, unbelievably, comes up with the massive cash bail to bond out her
    husband.

    Huh? There's no paying audience for such movies.

    Also, she provides her husband with an obviously phony alibi.

    Based on the victim's video accusation, Price repeatedly calls the
    defendant a paedophile without objection from the defense. He's
    willfully misusing the term to make the rape sound worse than it was. Of
    course the defendant wasn't charged with rape. I don't understand trial
    rules on the prosecution making accusations of other crimes it doesn't
    have to prove or can't prove but having the luxury to misrepresent them.

    Upon playing the victim's video in court, a complete surprise to the
    defendant as there's seemingly no discovery, he freaks out, grabs a
    bailiff's gun, threatens others with it and then commits suicide.

    Baxter, Price, and Mauroon confer about next steps. Mauroon is especially pissed that there's no one to prosecute, so Price decides to pick the
    mother, given the phony alibi. They get Brady to interview her at which
    point she admits to both knowing about the abuse, the video, and telling
    her husband about the video.

    Upon seeing Marvel, Mauroon gets uber-sympathetic to the defendant.
    She's now claiming a history of abuse from being raped by an uncle at
    age 9 to being battered throughout her second marriage.

    The defense wants to put a psychiatrist on the stand to argue the
    defendant's state of mind which Price objects to as state of mind is
    irrelevant to the crimes she's charged with.

    Now Price and Baxter emphasize that the mother, the adult, had the duty
    to protect her daughter, yet her actions in revealkng the video to her
    husband was proximate to the killing,

    The mother is put on the stand to tell as much of her pathetic story as
    she can get away with even though Price won the motion blocking that
    defense. In cross, Price asks the obvious question (shocking the
    audience at the unintentional good lawyering): If you were so afraid of
    your husband, why did you post bail?

    Her answer was contradictory. But that's ok. This is SVU-lite. Abuse
    handwaives away all criminal, contradictory, self-destructive, and
    failure to protect children action.

    Mauroon gets really pissed at Price and almost threatens to resign.
    Price relents and offers a plea deal with one year of prison.

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  • From Ian J. Ball@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Fri Feb 14 05:56:19 2025
    On 2/13/25 11:44 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    [snip]
    Abigail Spencer is this week's guest defendant, mother of the victim,
    wasted in a dreadfully written script.

    I saw about 5 seconds of this while channel flipping, and what struck me
    about this is how bad Abigail Spencer looked here. I dunno if her age is catching up with her, or this was bad makeup and lighting, or she's done
    some kind of cosmetic surgery that doesn't agree with her, but I was
    really struck with how awful she looked here.

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Sat Feb 15 05:07:42 2025
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    Feb 13, 2025 at 11:44:38 PM PST, Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    . . .

    They find a credit card receipt from the stepfather, breaking his
    alibi. But they can't find motive till a video the victim shot in which
    she accuses her stepfather of raping her repeated at age 14.

    The video hadn't been made public yet.

    And Price showed it during his opening argument! You can't present evidence to >the jury during opening arguments, for the love of gawd!

    That was his opening? I guess it was. We never saw a detective on the
    stand used to introduce the video evidence into the record.

    Upon seeing Marvel, Mauroon gets uber-sympathetic to the defendant.

    I think you're confusing the defense attorney actress with someone else. She >was played by Elsa Davis and Marvel is listed nowhere in the rest of the cast >for the episode.

    That was the lead defense attorney. There was a second attorney who
    approached Mauroon although we never saw her in court, the one hired to investigate the defendant's background to prove she was a "victim".

    That was a different woman. If I'm wrong about Marvel (who prepares
    defense cases like that on SVU), I don't know who it was.

    The defense wants to put a psychiatrist on the stand to argue the >>defendant's state of mind which Price objects to as state of mind is >>irrelevant to the crimes she's charged with.

    Astoundingly, the judge actually rules in the prosecution's favor, something >the Judicial Ethics Committee will probably sanction her for. LAW & ORDER >judges are ethically required to overrule all prosecution objections and allow >whatever crazy nonsense the defense attorneys think up.

    Hehehehehe

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 15 04:27:22 2025
    On Feb 13, 2025 at 11:44:38 PM PST, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com>
    wrote:

    This episode seemed very familiar. It seemed like a script repurposed
    from an episode of SVU that I must have seen. Even Elizabeth Marvel
    pokes her nose in.

    Abigail Spencer is this week's guest defendant, mother of the victim,
    wasted in a dreadfully written script.

    A product model is taping a commercial for a cleaning product/personal protection/skin care product (It does it all!) Gosh, she looks 16.
    That's 'cuz she is.

    Of course she's tonight's murder victim. Riley and Shaw have a stilted discussion, being required to forgo the gallows humor due to the age of
    the victim. Hey! Briscoe and Green never stopped cracking wise.

    And it certainly wouldn't have stopped Horatio from putting on his sunglasses and waiting for The Who to scream "Yeaaahhhhh!"

    They find a credit card receipt from the stepfather, breaking his
    alibi. But they can't find motive till a video the victim shot in which
    she accuses her stepfather of raping her repeated at age 14.

    The video hadn't been made public yet.

    And Price showed it during his opening argument! You can't present evidence to the jury during opening arguments, for the love of gawd!

    Upon seeing Marvel, Mauroon gets uber-sympathetic to the defendant.

    I think you're confusing the defense attorney actress with someone else. She was played by Elsa Davis and Marvel is listed nowhere in the rest of the cast for the episode.

    The defense wants to put a psychiatrist on the stand to argue the
    defendant's state of mind which Price objects to as state of mind is irrelevant to the crimes she's charged with.

    Astoundingly, the judge actually rules in the prosecution's favor, something the Judicial Ethics Committee will probably sanction her for. LAW & ORDER judges are ethically required to overrule all prosecution objections and allow whatever crazy nonsense the defense attorneys think up.

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Sat Feb 15 06:36:49 2025
    Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    Feb 13, 2025 at 11:44:38 PM PST, Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    . . .

    Upon seeing Marvel, Mauroon gets uber-sympathetic to the defendant.

    I think you're confusing the defense attorney actress with someone else. She >>was played by Elsa Davis and Marvel is listed nowhere in the rest of the cast >>for the episode.

    That was the lead defense attorney. There was a second attorney who >approached Mauroon although we never saw her in court, the one hired to >investigate the defendant's background to prove she was a "victim".

    That was a different woman. If I'm wrong about Marvel (who prepares
    defense cases like that on SVU), I don't know who it was.

    I figured out who the actress was: Kelly Ashton Todd

    I have no idea how Mauroon knew her.

    . . .

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