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A 'body blow' for climate research: Trump pauses NOAA collaboration with 'foreign nationals'
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Marc Fawcett-Atkinson

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February 10th 2025
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Some employees at the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
have been told to temporarily stop all international collaborations and communications, with dramatic impacts on vital climate, weather and
fisheries monitoring. Photo by NOAA/NASA GOES Project/Flickr

Canadian climate and fisheries experts are reeling after the Trump administration ordered researchers with the U.S. government agency in
charge of weather forecasting, climate research and fisheries to
temporarily stop communicating with "foreign nationals."

The move, which was first reported Wednesday by WIRED, could devastate
weather and oceanic forecasting, climate change research, and Canada's
ability to manage and study key fish stocks like Pacific salmon and
halibut, experts and advocates say.

"This is not a small blow for climate research – it is a body blow," said Tzeporah Berman, a long-time Canadian climate advocate and expert. If implemented permanently, the move would hamstring some of the world's most important climate monitoring data and modelling, making it hard to assess
the scale of the crisis and craft effective responses.
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"Neither Trump nor Musk have the power to secure the US’s borders against climate change,” Berman said. “The fires and floods know no borders and it
is absolutely critical that the world share data and solutions on shared
global threats. Trump and Musk constraining NOAA from collaborating
threatens us all, including us citizens. It's a dangerous, closed minded,
knee jerk ideological policy that could literally cost lives."

An internal email shared with WIRED shows that employees at the National
Marine Fisheries Service (NMFS) were told to "PAUSE ALL INTERNATIONAL ENGAGEMENT" (sic), including international commissions and emails with
"foreign national colleagues."

The ban extends to the National Environmental Satellite, Data and
Information Service (NESDIS), which works extensively with international partners to collect climate and weather data that is vital to protect air, shipping and railways from extreme weather, in addition to its value for climate research. Both organizations are contained within the U.S.'s
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).

The move could hide measurements from the Mauna Loa Observatory carbon
dioxide monitoring program, widely considered the world's benchmark
measures. It could also eliminate a key global temperature record used by climate researchers worldwide, global monitoring for rising sea levels and ocean temperatures and lead to weaker climate modeling and forecasting. The move will also disrupt countries' ability to meet their global climate commitments; and limit developing nations' ability to prepare for climate disasters, Berman said.

While other organizations in Europe, Japan and the U.K. could help fill the hole, the loss of NOAA data would be a "major setback" for global climate science, Berman warned.

"Those data sets are not only of the U.S.," said Tianjia (Tina) Liu, a University of British Columbia geography professor who specializes in
wildfire. "Having them is really beneficial for the entire region, and
really helpful for managing natural disasters."

Canadian climate and fisheries experts are reeling after the Trump administration ordered researchers with the U.S. government agency in
charge of weather, climate research and fisheries to temporarily stop communicating with "foreign nationals."

In a statement, Environment and Climate Change Canada confirmed it has a "longstanding relationship" with NOAA in weather, climate, satellite and
water monitoring. It has "not officially been informed of any changes to
its collaboration with NOAA."

Villy Christensen, a professor at the University of British Columbia and founder of a decades-long approach to managing fisheries that focuses on ecosystem health long used by the NMFS emphasized that blocking
collaborative efforts will harm research and management decisions in the
U.S., Canada and other countries.

American isolationism could curtail some of the decades-old committees that manage key species in both Canada and the U.S. Take Pacific salmon and
Pacific Halibut: the fish species migrate between both countries, and
sustain important fisheries on either side of the border. For years,
they've been managed through a collaborative U.S.-Canada process that
relies heavily on U.S. data.

"These are really important joint efforts between the U.S. and Canada to manage, assess and manage and allocate fish stocks or catches," said John Driscoll, a fisheries scientist and policy analyst with the David Suzuki Foundation. Even if the temporary pause is lifted, the disruption could
have "disproportionate effects" on both countries' ability to manage the
fish.

Still, Christensen said that ultimately, if necessary Canada and global researchers can make do without the U.S. Last year, the country joined most
of Horizon Europe, the world's largest research and innovation funding
scheme, which allows Canadian researchers to access funding and collaborate more closely with Europe.

But he was clear that's not the goal of science.

"[Scientists] depend on collaboration," Christensen said. " We stand on the shoulders of giants, they walk with us – and cooperation is absolutely a requirement."

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On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 17:23:19 -0000 (UTC)
WokieSux283@ud0s4.net wrote:

A 'body blow' for climate research: Trump pauses NOAA collaboration
with 'foreign nationals'

OH FUCK YES!!!

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tye syding wrote:

On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 17:23:19 -0000 (UTC)
WokieSux283@ud0s4.net wrote:

A 'body blow' for climate research: Trump pauses NOAA collaboration
with 'foreign nationals'

OH FUCK YES!!!

All winds, rain, storms, cold air, and hurricanes originate at our
borders.

We have to stop weather satellites from flying over not the USA.

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tye syding wrote:

On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 17:23:19 -0000 (UTC)
WokieSux283@ud0s4.net wrote:

A 'body blow' for climate research: Trump pauses NOAA collaboration
with 'foreign nationals'

OH FUCK YES!!!

All winds, rain, storms, cold air, and hurricanes originate at our
borders.

We have to stop weather satellites from flying over not the USA.

I thank God for every hurricane, flood and tornado that kills Trumpers in
the south east and Texas because it couldn't be global warming, Trump
says it's a big lie. It's just God killing rightists in the south as he should.

I still maintain that murdering rightists and burning their bodies for
fuel is the solution to our energy needs. Rightists are fat, stupid
and gullible so it won't be a problem luring them to the furnaces.

Burning deceased humans will produce electricity
In Durham, England, corpses will soon be used to generate electricity. A crematorium is installing turbines in its burners that will convert waste
heat from the combustion of each corpse into as much as 150 kilowatt-
hours of juice — enough to power 1,500 televisions for an hour. The
facility plans to sell the electricity to local power companies.

Dec. 2, 2011, 1:55 PM EST / Source: LifesLittleMysteries.com
By Natalie Wolchover

In Durham, England, corpses will soon be used to generate electricity.

A crematorium is installing turbines in its burners that will convert
waste heat from the combustion of each corpse into as much as 150 kilowatt-hours of juice — enough to power 1,500 televisions for an hour.
The facility plans to sell the electricity to local power companies. ADVERTISING

Some might find this concept creepy. Others might be pleased to learn
that the process "makes cremation much greener by utilizing its by-
products," in the words of cremation engineer Steve Looker, owner and
chief executive officer of the Florida-based company B&L Cremation
Systems, which is unaffiliated with the Durham enterprise.

In Europe, tightening regulations on crematorium emissions, coupled with
the high price of energy, will lead more and more facilities to go the
way of Durham in the future, Looker said. Will crematories in the United
States follow suit?

According to Looker, whose company is currently testing different methods
of utilizing cremation waste heat, the expensive turbine systems being installed in Durham are not yet economically viable for crematories here.
"In the U.S., most crematories don't have enough throughput," he told
Life's Little Mysteries. "Cremation in some parts of Europe is over 90
percent, but it is not over 50 percent yet here." That is, less than half
of Americans opt for cremation. Most are buried.
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Consequently, while burners in Europe typically run 24 hours day, ones in America operate only eight hours each day, Looker said. "A typical
turbine system would cost somewhere between $250,000 to $500,000. If it's running 24 hours a day, that's a five-year payback. If it's running eight
hours a day, that's a 15- or 20-year payback, which isn't feasible," he
said.

However, Looker is hopeful that the situation could change in the near
future. "Over the next 10 years, with the baby boomers coming through, cremation is going to reach 75 to 80 percent. Then, this might be
feasible."

Furthermore, a turbine designed by a company called Thermal Dynamic Engineering, which produces just 50 kilowatt-hours of energy but is much
less expensive to install than the Durham system, will be available in
the near future, Looker said.

Thus, it may indeed come to pass that deceased baby boomers will someday
help power your household appliances.

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