• Deadpool and Wolverine (2024)

    From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 20 19:54:25 2025
    I gotta get this crap out of my head.

    I borrowed this from the library then sat on it for weeks hoping it
    would ripen into a good movie.

    I was delusional.

    I kept waiting for the break-the-fourth-wall jokes to be funny. The
    first time I laughed was well into the movie in which we see a discarded
    Fox movie studios logo broken in the sand.

    Did I miss something about Deadpool having super strength? In an unfunny opening, he's dug up the skeleton of Wolverine, thinking Wolverine can
    still regenerate, but no. Henchmen from some branch of the Time Variance Authority (working for Matthew McFadyen, I guess) try to capture him. He murders them all by breaking off bones to impale them on.

    Uh, Deadpool should not be able to break apart that skeleton.

    The opening set-piece fight is utterly meaningless entertainment-wise
    and does nothing for the plot, whatever little there is.

    The TVA was established to defend and preserve the Fuckin' Golden
    timeline, whatever the hell that is. They control technology that gives
    them god-like powers. After the Trinity test we all know what
    Oppenheimer quoted:

    I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad
    Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do
    his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and
    says, "Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds." I
    suppose we all thought that one way or another.

    These people are complete assholes without two brain cells to rub
    together.

    McFadyen, in a snit (How did he sign on for this movie for one of the
    worst roles of his career?), learns that Deadpool's world is heading
    toward complete and utter destruction (or his entire universe) and
    decides to hasten the process. From the Acme catalog, he orders the
    Maguffin, which can be used for instant destruction.

    He's supposed to be the main villain or something, but in my opinion,
    the entire TVA is. The audience sure finds a whiny, neurotic villain entertaining.

    A Wolverine, feeling sorry for himself, having survived the destruction
    of his own universe (a different universe and a different Wolverine,
    still dead in this universe) shows up wearing a costume from a much
    earlier comic book incarnation, but much too late to save this terrible
    movie.

    The TVA has been dumping heroes and villains from other destroyed
    universes into a shithole universe. D&W end up there because REASONS,
    and meet evil sister-of-Professor X, who is decades younger and has
    great mental power but it's not explained in plot. She controls their
    exit from the universe but they have to stick a football helmut taken
    off Juggernaut onto her head.

    She has no need to be a touch telepath but they do a digital effect
    showing her fingers inside the head of someone whose mind she wants to
    read.

    Another big set-piece fight ensues, nearly as meaningless.

    D&W return. Deadpool now has to face an unlimited number Deadpools from
    other universes. Why? Some are women, some are midgets. Why?

    Another fight the audience doesn't care about ensues.

    Back to McFadyen's headquaters. The Maguffin has arrived and Sister X
    knows about it. Previously having no Bond-villain aspirations versus
    this universe, she now wants to use it, just for the hell of it.

    McFadyen, under duress, explains to Deadpool how to destroy it, which apparently involves being Plastic Man arm-stretchy thingy into widely
    spaced columns with lots of electricity, but Deadpool has locked
    Wolverine into an elevator and can't help. Meanwhile, Deadpool gets
    there and suddenly can't destroy it on his own and he needs Wolverine.
    Instead of letting him out, we have to wait for Wolverine to destroy the elevator cab so he can hold hands with Wolverine. Saving this universe
    and destroying the Maguffin requires Wolverine to lose his shirt and
    Ryan Reynolds to leer at Hugh Jackman, which isn't creepy at all.

    McFadyen gets arrested. Deadpool talks McFadyen's boss into not
    sending them back to shithole universe. She tells Deadpool that whatever
    he did ended up putting his universe back onto the Fuckin' Golden
    timeline and it's no longer going to be destroying itself. She won't
    help Wolverine fix his universe as he was needed for this movie.

    Plenty of worse crap in this movie I didn't summarize.

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  • From Ian J. Ball@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Thu Feb 20 12:40:09 2025
    On 2/20/25 11:54 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    I gotta get this crap out of my head.

    I borrowed this from the library then sat on it for weeks hoping it
    would ripen into a good movie.

    I was delusional.

    I kept waiting for the break-the-fourth-wall jokes to be funny. The
    first time I laughed was well into the movie in which we see a discarded
    Fox movie studios logo broken in the sand.

    I didn't hate this movie, as I recall, but it isn't a patch on the first
    two "Deadpool" flicks (which are among my favorites, esp. "2").

    Quite a contrast with "Guardians of the Galaxy", where "3" might even be
    the best of the lot.

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Ian J. Ball on Thu Feb 20 20:50:28 2025
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 2/20/25 11:54 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    I gotta get this crap out of my head.

    I borrowed this from the library then sat on it for weeks hoping it
    would ripen into a good movie.

    I was delusional.

    I kept waiting for the break-the-fourth-wall jokes to be funny. The
    first time I laughed was well into the movie in which we see a discarded >>Fox movie studios logo broken in the sand.

    I didn't hate this movie, as I recall, but it isn't a patch on the first
    two "Deadpool" flicks (which are among my favorites, esp. "2").

    I watched this, in part, because you said it was entertaing. You never
    said what you found enjoyable.

    Give me a hint, will you?

    . . .

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  • From Ian J. Ball@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Thu Feb 20 13:01:08 2025
    On 2/20/25 12:50 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 2/20/25 11:54 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    I gotta get this crap out of my head.

    I borrowed this from the library then sat on it for weeks hoping it
    would ripen into a good movie.

    I was delusional.

    I kept waiting for the break-the-fourth-wall jokes to be funny. The
    first time I laughed was well into the movie in which we see a discarded >>> Fox movie studios logo broken in the sand.

    I didn't hate this movie, as I recall, but it isn't a patch on the first
    two "Deadpool" flicks (which are among my favorites, esp. "2").

    I watched this, in part, because you said it was entertaing. You never
    said what you found enjoyable.

    Give me a hint, will you?

    Are we talking about "Deadpool and Wolverine" or "Deadpool 2"?

    If the latter, it's because it's hilarious. If you don't think it is, I
    can't help you.

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 20 21:09:11 2025
    On Feb 20, 2025 at 11:54:25 AM PST, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com>
    wrote:

    McFadyen gets arrested. Deadpool talks McFadyen's boss into not
    sending them back to shithole universe. She tells Deadpool that whatever
    he did ended up putting his universe back onto the Fuckin' Golden
    timeline and it's no longer going to be destroying itself. She won't
    help Wolverine fix his universe as he was needed for this movie.

    This is supposed to explain the upcoming introduction of the X-Men into the MCU, so of course Wolverine could go back home.

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Thu Feb 20 21:10:09 2025
    On Feb 20, 2025 at 1:09:11 PM PST, "BTR1701" <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    On Feb 20, 2025 at 11:54:25 AM PST, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    McFadyen gets arrested. Deadpool talks McFadyen's boss into not
    sending them back to shithole universe. She tells Deadpool that whatever
    he did ended up putting his universe back onto the Fuckin' Golden
    timeline and it's no longer going to be destroying itself. She won't
    help Wolverine fix his universe as he was needed for this movie.

    This is supposed to explain the upcoming introduction of the X-Men into the MCU, so of course Wolverine could go back home.

    could = couldn't

    Godammnit, Siri...

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Ian J. Ball on Thu Feb 20 21:20:11 2025
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 2/20/25 12:50 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 2/20/25 11:54 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    I gotta get this crap out of my head.

    I borrowed this from the library then sat on it for weeks hoping it >>>>would ripen into a good movie.

    I was delusional.

    I kept waiting for the break-the-fourth-wall jokes to be funny. The >>>>first time I laughed was well into the movie in which we see a discarded >>>>Fox movie studios logo broken in the sand.

    I didn't hate this movie, as I recall, but it isn't a patch on the first >>>two "Deadpool" flicks (which are among my favorites, esp. "2").

    I watched this, in part, because you said it was entertaing. You never
    said what you found enjoyable.

    Give me a hint, will you?

    Are we talking about "Deadpool and Wolverine" or "Deadpool 2"?

    If the latter, it's because it's hilarious. If you don't think it is, I
    can't help you.

    You're ducking, Ian. What is the Subject?

    You're the one who keeps changing what I was trying to talk about. If
    you don't care to discuss what I wanted to talk about, just kill file
    me.

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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Thu Feb 20 14:27:22 2025
    Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
    I gotta get this crap out of my head.

    I borrowed this from the library then sat on it for weeks hoping it
    would ripen into a good movie.

    I was delusional.

    I kept waiting for the break-the-fourth-wall jokes to be funny. The
    first time I laughed was well into the movie in which we see a discarded
    Fox movie studios logo broken in the sand.

    Did I miss something about Deadpool having super strength? In an unfunny opening, he's dug up the skeleton of Wolverine, thinking Wolverine can
    still regenerate, but no. Henchmen from some branch of the Time Variance Authority (working for Matthew McFadyen, I guess) try to capture him. He murders them all by breaking off bones to impale them on.

    Uh, Deadpool should not be able to break apart that skeleton.


    Ian’s Wikipedia article says that Deadpool used to have super human
    strength but for reasons unknown they don’t depict him that way anymore although he can do stuff regular humans can’t because the healing factor makes him impervious to pain.


    The opening set-piece fight is utterly meaningless entertainment-wise
    and does nothing for the plot, whatever little there is.

    The TVA was established to defend and preserve the Fuckin' Golden
    timeline, whatever the hell that is. They control technology that gives
    them god-like powers. After the Trinity test we all know what
    Oppenheimer quoted:

    I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad
    Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do
    his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and
    says, "Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds." I
    suppose we all thought that one way or another.

    These people are complete assholes without two brain cells to rub
    together.

    McFadyen, in a snit (How did he sign on for this movie for one of the
    worst roles of his career?), learns that Deadpool's world is heading
    toward complete and utter destruction (or his entire universe) and
    decides to hasten the process. From the Acme catalog, he orders the
    Maguffin, which can be used for instant destruction.

    He's supposed to be the main villain or something, but in my opinion,
    the entire TVA is. The audience sure finds a whiny, neurotic villain entertaining.

    A Wolverine, feeling sorry for himself, having survived the destruction
    of his own universe (a different universe and a different Wolverine,
    still dead in this universe) shows up wearing a costume from a much
    earlier comic book incarnation, but much too late to save this terrible movie.

    The TVA has been dumping heroes and villains from other destroyed
    universes into a shithole universe. D&W end up there because REASONS,
    and meet evil sister-of-Professor X, who is decades younger and has
    great mental power but it's not explained in plot. She controls their
    exit from the universe but they have to stick a football helmut taken
    off Juggernaut onto her head.

    She has no need to be a touch telepath but they do a digital effect
    showing her fingers inside the head of someone whose mind she wants to
    read.

    Another big set-piece fight ensues, nearly as meaningless.

    D&W return. Deadpool now has to face an unlimited number Deadpools from
    other universes. Why? Some are women, some are midgets. Why?


    To give Reynolds’ talent free wife and kids cameos to play.


    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

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  • From Ian J. Ball@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Thu Feb 20 13:34:34 2025
    On 2/20/25 1:20 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 2/20/25 12:50 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 2/20/25 11:54 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    I gotta get this crap out of my head.

    I borrowed this from the library then sat on it for weeks hoping it
    would ripen into a good movie.

    I was delusional.

    I kept waiting for the break-the-fourth-wall jokes to be funny. The
    first time I laughed was well into the movie in which we see a discarded >>>>> Fox movie studios logo broken in the sand.

    I didn't hate this movie, as I recall, but it isn't a patch on the first >>>> two "Deadpool" flicks (which are among my favorites, esp. "2").

    I watched this, in part, because you said it was entertaing. You never
    said what you found enjoyable.

    Give me a hint, will you?

    Are we talking about "Deadpool and Wolverine" or "Deadpool 2"?

    If the latter, it's because it's hilarious. If you don't think it is, I
    can't help you.

    You're ducking, Ian. What is the Subject?

    You're the one who keeps changing what I was trying to talk about. If
    you don't care to discuss what I wanted to talk about, just kill file
    me.

    I'm not sure I ever said "Deadpool and Wolverine" was "entertaining".
    IIRC, my review was generally negative. I probably found a few amusing bits.

    So you can't pin watching it on me! :p

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