• Appeasing Putin: Why We Must Join Trump, Fold And Give Him Everything H

    From Snag@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 21 21:07:59 2025
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    Trump is now the Government so always believe what the government tells
    you. Not doing so will label you at Trump hater and a traitor. Even America's conservative citizen militias have laid down their arms in
    obedience and agree with everything Trump says and does.

    I’m not sure most Americans appreciate the monumental damage President
    Trump is doing to the post-World War II order that is the wellspring of American global leadership and affluence.
    He’s shattering it. He’s making the world more dangerous. He’s siding
    with an alleged war criminal, President Vladimir Putin of Russia, and
    poisoning relations with longtime U.S. allies. The trans-Atlantic
    alliance is unraveling.
    “We have Trump and his oligarchy of ignorant shoe shiners vandalizing the network of organizations, agreements and values — largely put in place by America since the Second World War — which have given most of us,
    including America, on the whole an extraordinary degree of peace and prosperity,” Chris Patten, the former British Conservative Party chairman
    and European foreign affairs chief, told me.
    Patten’s tough language is a reflection of the distress in Europe, for he
    is a lifelong Americanophile, and now, as Lord Patten of Barnes, a model
    of British dignity and restraint. He added, “I love America and was once
    happy to regard its president as leader of the free world. Not any
    longer. Where are the American values that I used to admire?”
    I wish I knew what to tell him. But this is a humiliating month to be an American. When I was a young reporter, we referred to countries like
    Poland and Romania as Soviet satellites; now Trump is doing Putin’s
    bidding and seems determined to put the United States in the Russian
    orbit.
    Trump administration officials cozied up to Russian officials in Riyadh,
    Saudi Arabia, this week over “a lot of jokes,” as one of the Russians put
    it. The two sides discussed Ukraine, and thus Europe’s future, while
    excluding both the Ukrainians and the Europeans. There is talk of
    adopting Russia’s position on Ukraine and dropping sanctions against
    Moscow.
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    This would be grotesque. I’ve covered the war in Ukraine, visited Russian torture chambers and interviewed Ukrainian children trafficked into
    Russia by the invaders. If only Trump and his aides had a fraction of the
    steel of one Ukrainian woman I interviewed in 2022, Alla Kuznietsova,
    who, even when subjected to electric shocks, beatings with cables and
    repeated rapes by Russian interrogators, refused to yield to them.
    “We are grateful to Americans, but we just ask, please don’t leave us
    halfway,” she told me then. “Don’t leave us alone.” Yet now Trump has
    collapsed and seems ready to abandon heroes like her. What we’ve seen in
    the last 10 days from American officials is appeasement of the most
    craven kind.
    As Neville Chamberlain’s ghost watched, Vice President JD Vance lit into Europeans in a speech in Munich and then met the leader of an extremist right-wing party, the Alternative for Germany, which many Germans see as descended from Nazism. Some of its members have downplayed the Holocaust, employed Nazi slogans and allegedly plotted to overthrow the government. Editors’ Picks
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    It is difficult to avoid the impression that the Trump administration is working to undermine democracy not only at home but also in Europe. As
    The Economist noted, what we’ve seen is “Donald Trump’s assault on
    Europe.”
    Trump is widely expected to pull some troops out of Europe. And NATO
    looks more and more hollow; does anyone really think that if Russia
    dispatched little green men to seize Latvian villages, Trump would
    dispatch troops under NATO’s Article 5? It’s at least as likely that he
    would ask Putin about putting up a Trump Hotel there.
    “European leaders are waking up to the fact that not only is the U.S. abandoning Ukraine, but that the U.S. represents a threat to the future
    of democracy and freedom in Europe,” wrote Phillips O’Brien, an
    international relations scholar at the University of St. Andrews in
    Scotland.
    Prime Minister Keir Starmer of Britain put it this way: “We’re facing a generational challenge.”
    In fairness, Trump is right on a basic point: Europe should contribute
    much more to its own defense, rather than free-riding on American
    taxpayers. Europe is populous enough and rich enough that it could manage Russia on its own, but instead of managing a transition, Trump is close
    to switching sides.
    Trump says of the Ukraine war that Ukraine “should have never started it”
    — when of course Ukraine didn’t start anything. Trump might as well say
    that a mugging victim shouldn’t have punched the attacker’s fist with his
    nose.
    The Trump administration has lately sided with Moscow on one issue after another: Ukraine must cede territory, can’t join NATO and should hold new elections just as Russia insists. (Meanwhile, there’s no call for Russia
    to hold elections.) Trump even suggested that Russia should be readmitted
    to the Group of 7.
    In a falsehood-filled rant on Truth Social on Wednesday, Trump went
    further. He denounced Ukraine’s elected president, Volodymyr Zelensky, as
    a “dictator” who had squandered money and had “better move fast or he is
    not going to have a country left.” Trump’s post had the tone of
    statements from the Kremlin.
    Trump embraced these positions of Putin without apparently negotiating
    much in return. Diplomacy is normally about give and take, but — as
    happens so often when Trump interacts with Putin — Trump has been all
    give.
    The Trump approach to international relations buttresses Russia in other
    ways. His demands for territory from Panama, Greenland and Canada
    reinforce the Russian position that superpowers can grab whatever they
    want. His sanctioning of the International Criminal Court and calls for
    the forced removal of Gazans mark an abandonment of the rules-based international order that amplified American soft power. Trump is making
    Putin a winner.
    Gabrielius Landsbergis, a former foreign minister of Lithuania, warns
    that if Trump continues to back Russia and Europe fails to step up, then “threats to European security will grow immensely. Putin will get braver, meaning more war in Ukraine, Moldova, Georgia and beyond.”
    The danger goes beyond Europe. Perhaps the greatest international
    relations nightmare in the coming years would be a war between the United States and China, beginning near Taiwan or in the South China Sea.
    President Joe Biden deterred Chinese aggression by working closely with
    allies in Asia and making it obvious that Russia was paying a steep price
    for its invasion of Ukraine. If Trump instead lets Russia win and also
    frays relations with our allies, then China is more likely to move on
    Taiwan.
    “What awful times,” Patten told me. The post-World War II era has been a remarkable historical epoch of eight decades of prosperity and progress.
    But now, as the British foreign secretary remarked in August 1914, “the
    lamps are going out all over Europe,” and we must prepare for a more
    dangerous world.

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  • From tye syding@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 21 14:51:15 2025
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    On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 21:07:59 -0000 (UTC)
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    I_m not sure most Americans appreciate the monumental damage
    President Trump is doing to the post-World War II order that is the wellspring of American global leadership and affluence.


    ROTFLMFAO!

    Urkraine and Chicom "afflunence" you leftarded treasonous dirtbag.

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/02/at-usaid-waste-and-abuse-runs-deep/

    For decades, the United States Agency for International Development (USAID) has been unaccountable to taxpayers as it funnels massive sums of money to the ridiculous — and, in many cases, malicious — pet projects of entrenched bureaucrats, with next-
    to-no oversight.

    Here are only a few examples of the WASTE and ABUSE:

    $1.5 million to “advance diversity equity and inclusion in Serbia’s workplaces and business communities”
    $70,000 for production of a “DEI musical” in Ireland
    $2.5 million for electric vehicles for Vietnam
    $47,000 for a “transgender opera” in Colombia
    $32,000 for a “transgender comic book” in Peru
    $2 million for sex changes and “LGBT activism” in Guatemala
    $6 million to fund tourism in Egypt
    Hundreds of thousands of dollars for a non-profit linked to designated terrorist organizations — even AFTER an inspector general launched an investigation
    Millions to EcoHealth Alliance — which was involved in research at the Wuhan lab
    “Hundreds of thousands of meals that went to al Qaeda-affiliated fighters in Syria”
    Funding to print “personalized” contraceptives birth control devices in developing countries
    Hundreds of millions of dollars to fund “irrigation canals, farming equipment, and even fertilizer used to support the unprecedented poppy cultivation and heroin production in Afghanistan,” benefiting the Taliban
    The list literally goes on and on — and it has all been happening for decades.

    Under President Trump, the waste, fraud, and abuse ENDS NOW.

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  • From John Smyth@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 21 21:57:20 2025
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    On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 21:07:59 -0000 (UTC)
    Snag munged the followup groups, now restored:

    I_m not sure most Americans appreciate the monumental damage
    President Trump is doing to the post-World War II order that is the
    wellspring of American global leadership and affluence.


    ROTFLMFAO!

    Urkraine and Chicom "afflunence" you leftarded treasonous dirtbag.

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/02/at-usaid-waste-and-abuse-runs-d >eep/

    For decades, the United States Agency for International Development (USAID)
    has been unaccountable to taxpayers as it funnels massive sums of money to the ridiculous — and, in many cases, malicious — pet proje
    cts of entrenched bureaucrats, with next-to-no oversight.

    Here are only a few examples of the WASTE and ABUSE:

    $1.5 million to “advance diversity equity and inclusion in Serbia
    ’s workplaces and business communities”
    $70,000 for production of a “DEI musical” in Ireland
    $2.5 million for electric vehicles for Vietnam
    $47,000 for a “transgender opera” in Colombia
    $32,000 for a “transgender comic book” in Peru
    $2 million for sex changes and “LGBT activism” in Guatemala
    $6 million to fund tourism in Egypt
    Hundreds of thousands of dollars for a non-profit linked to designated terr >orist organizations — even AFTER an inspector general launched an i >nvestigation
    Millions to EcoHealth Alliance — which was involved in research at
    the Wuhan lab
    “Hundreds of thousands of meals that went to al Qaeda-affiliated fi
    ghters in Syria”
    Funding to print “personalized” contraceptives birth contro
    l devices in developing countries
    Hundreds of millions of dollars to fund “irrigation canals, farming
    equipment, and even fertilizer used to support the unprecedented poppy cul
    tivation and heroin production in Afghanistan,” benefiting the Tali
    ban
    The list literally goes on and on — and it has all been happening f
    or decades.

    Under President Trump, the waste, fraud, and abuse ENDS NOW.



    putin is far smarter than you. shut the fuck up.

    Trump just saved the free world and all it took was sacrificing Ukraine, the security of Europe and 3 blowjobs and a rimjob for Putin.

    Personally delivered!

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  • From tye syding@21:1/5 to John Smyth another Rudey forgery on Fri Feb 21 15:15:08 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.atheism, alt.home.repair

    On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 21:57:20 -0000 (UTC)
    John Smyth another Rudey forgery wrote:

    On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 21:07:59 -0000 (UTC)
    Snag munged the followup groups, now restored:

    I_m not sure most Americans appreciate the monumental damage
    President Trump is doing to the post-World War II order that is the
    wellspring of American global leadership and affluence.


    ROTFLMFAO!

    Urkraine and Chicom "afflunence" you leftarded treasonous dirtbag.

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/02/at-usaid-waste-and-abuse-runs-d >eep/

    For decades, the United States Agency for International Development
    (USAID)
    has been unaccountable to taxpayers as it funnels massive sums of
    money to the ridiculous — and, in many cases, malicious — pet proje
    cts of entrenched bureaucrats, with next-to-no oversight.

    Here are only a few examples of the WASTE and ABUSE:

    $1.5 million to “advance diversity equity and inclusion in Serbia
    ’s workplaces and business communities”
    $70,000 for production of a “DEI musical” in Ireland
    $2.5 million for electric vehicles for Vietnam
    $47,000 for a “transgender opera” in Colombia
    $32,000 for a “transgender comic book” in Peru
    $2 million for sex changes and “LGBT activism” in Guatemala
    $6 million to fund tourism in Egypt
    Hundreds of thousands of dollars for a non-profit linked to
    designated terr orist organizations — even AFTER an inspector
    general launched an i nvestigation
    Millions to EcoHealth Alliance — which was involved in research at
    the Wuhan lab
    “Hundreds of thousands of meals that went to al Qaeda-affiliated fi >ghters in Syria”
    Funding to print “personalized” contraceptives birth contro
    l devices in developing countries
    Hundreds of millions of dollars to fund “irrigation canals, farming
    equipment, and even fertilizer used to support the unprecedented
    poppy cul
    tivation and heroin production in Afghanistan,” benefiting the Tali
    ban
    The list literally goes on and on — and it has all been happening f
    or decades.

    Under President Trump, the waste, fraud, and abuse ENDS NOW.



    putin is far smarter than you. shut the fuck up.


    Rudence!


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  • From tye syding@21:1/5 to Snag on Fri Feb 21 16:22:28 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.atheism, alt.home.repair

    On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 21:07:59 -0000 (UTC)
    Snag <snag_one@msn.com> wrote:

    Trump is now the Government

    THANK GOD FOR THAT!

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