Sunny Hostin claimed on Monday that it was "un-Godly" and "not Christian" to oppose woke culture, arguing that people who did so only proved that they did
not care about their neighbors.
Hostin and THE VIEW cohost Whoopi Goldberg discussed their own personal histories, saying that because they had always been around people who were fighting for things like Civil Rights and other issues, they had "never been asleep".
"I thought about the conversations that you and I have had, Whoopi, so many times about the co-opting of the word 'woke,'" Hostin began. "And the fact that the right somehow has made it a dirty word."
"And so Whoopi will often tell me, 'I've never been asleep,'" she added. "And
that's how I feel... so it angers me when people are like, 'This woke stuff gotta go.' That's telling me that you don't care about my lived experience
you don't care about the oppression of the LGBTQ community
you don't care about the oppression of immigrants
Goldberg weighed in as well, saying that being exposed to "woke" was what actually made people better and arguing that positive change could really only be made by making people uncomfortable.
On Feb 25, 2025 at 1:30:45 AM PST, "Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
Sunny Hostin claimed on Monday that it was "un-Godly" and "not Christian" to >> oppose woke culture, arguing that people who did so only proved that they did
not care about their neighbors.
Hostin and THE VIEW cohost Whoopi Goldberg discussed their own personal
histories, saying that because they had always been around people who were >> fighting for things like Civil Rights and other issues, they had "never been >> asleep".
"I thought about the conversations that you and I have had, Whoopi, so many >> times about the co-opting of the word 'woke,'" Hostin began. "And the fact >> that the right somehow has made it a dirty word."
The meanings of words change over time, Sunny. You're allegedly a >highly-educated lawyer, so you should know that.
Do we need to go over the history of the word 'gay' for that concept to sink >through that bone spur you call a skull?
"And so Whoopi will often tell me, 'I've never been asleep,'" she added. "And
that's how I feel... so it angers me when people are like, 'This woke stuff >> gotta go.' That's telling me that you don't care about my lived experience
Well, you got that one right, Sunny. I don't care about your 'lived >experience'. You're one of the most racist people on TV. You're a horrible >person and whatever experiences you've had concern me not in the slightest.
And what the hell is 'lived experience, anyway? What other experience could >you have other than that through which you've lived?
On Tue, 25 Feb 2025 18:43:43 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Feb 25, 2025 at 1:30:45 AM PST, "Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote: >>
Sunny Hostin claimed on Monday that it was "un-Godly" and "not Christian" >>> to
oppose woke culture, arguing that people who did so only proved that they >>> did
not care about their neighbors.
Hostin and THE VIEW cohost Whoopi Goldberg discussed their own personal >>> histories, saying that because they had always been around people who were >>> fighting for things like Civil Rights and other issues, they had "never >>> been
asleep".
"I thought about the conversations that you and I have had, Whoopi, so many
times about the co-opting of the word 'woke,'" Hostin began. "And the fact >>> that the right somehow has made it a dirty word."
The meanings of words change over time, Sunny. You're allegedly a
highly-educated lawyer, so you should know that.
Do we need to go over the history of the word 'gay' for that concept to sink >> through that bone spur you call a skull?
She would like dance with gay abandon while you talk about that
history.
"And so Whoopi will often tell me, 'I've never been asleep,'" she added. >>> "AndWell, you got that one right, Sunny. I don't care about your 'lived
that's how I feel... so it angers me when people are like, 'This woke stuff
gotta go.' That's telling me that you don't care about my lived experience >>
experience'. You're one of the most racist people on TV. You're a horrible >> person and whatever experiences you've had concern me not in the slightest. >>
And what the hell is 'lived experience, anyway? What other experience could >> you have other than that through which you've lived?
I'm sure she means her "lived experience" which makes her better to
talk about this subject than you and your "lived experience".
On Feb 25, 2025 at 10:51:44 AM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> >wrote:
On Tue, 25 Feb 2025 18:43:43 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Feb 25, 2025 at 1:30:45 AM PST, "Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote: >>>
Sunny Hostin claimed on Monday that it was "un-Godly" and "not Christian" >>>> to
oppose woke culture, arguing that people who did so only proved that they >>>> did
not care about their neighbors.
Hostin and THE VIEW cohost Whoopi Goldberg discussed their own personal >>>> histories, saying that because they had always been around people who were
fighting for things like Civil Rights and other issues, they had "never >>>> been
asleep".
"I thought about the conversations that you and I have had, Whoopi, so many
times about the co-opting of the word 'woke,'" Hostin began. "And the fact
that the right somehow has made it a dirty word."
The meanings of words change over time, Sunny. You're allegedly a
highly-educated lawyer, so you should know that.
Do we need to go over the history of the word 'gay' for that concept to sink
through that bone spur you call a skull?
She would likely dance with gay abandon while you talk about that
history.
"And so Whoopi will often tell me, 'I've never been asleep,'" she added. >>>> "And
that's how I feel... so it angers me when people are like, 'This woke stuff
gotta go.' That's telling me that you don't care about my lived experience
Well, you got that one right, Sunny. I don't care about your 'lived
experience'. You're one of the most racist people on TV. You're a horrible >>> person and whatever experiences you've had concern me not in the slightest. >>>
And what the hell is 'lived experience, anyway? What other experience could >>> you have other than that through which you've lived?
I'm sure she means her "lived experience" which makes her better to
talk about this subject than you and your "lived experience".
Well, sure, but why not simply call it 'experience', since there can be no >other kind?
People-- particularly on the Left, but sometimes on the Right, as well-- seem >to feel obligated to constantly make up new jargony terms for stuff that can >already by described using normal words in the English language.
'Social distance' is another one that leaps to mind. Why did we need a new >term for that? Why couldn't we just call it 'distance'? It's literally means >the same thing.
Another one that recently seems to have spread everywhere is the use of >'giving' to mean 'implies' or 'seems like'. This is particularly popular among >GenZers. They say things like,
"She's giving jealousy" instead of "She seems jealous."
and
"That trailer's giving STAR WARS" instead of "That trailer seems like a STAR >WARS copy."
On Tue, 25 Feb 2025 19:39:59 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Feb 25, 2025 at 10:51:44 AM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> >> wrote:
On Tue, 25 Feb 2025 18:43:43 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Feb 25, 2025 at 1:30:45 AM PST, "Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
Sunny Hostin claimed on Monday that it was "un-Godly" and "not Christian"
to
oppose woke culture, arguing that people who did so only proved that they
did
not care about their neighbors.
Hostin and THE VIEW cohost Whoopi Goldberg discussed their own personal >>>>> histories, saying that because they had always been around people who were
fighting for things like Civil Rights and other issues, they had "never >>>>> been
asleep".
"I thought about the conversations that you and I have had, Whoopi, so >>>>> many
times about the co-opting of the word 'woke,'" Hostin began. "And the fact
that the right somehow has made it a dirty word."
The meanings of words change over time, Sunny. You're allegedly a
highly-educated lawyer, so you should know that.
Do we need to go over the history of the word 'gay' for that concept to sink
through that bone spur you call a skull?
She would likely dance with gay abandon while you talk about that
history.
"And so Whoopi will often tell me, 'I've never been asleep,'" she added.
"And
that's how I feel... so it angers me when people are like, 'This woke >>>>> stuff
gotta go.' That's telling me that you don't care about my lived experience
Well, you got that one right, Sunny. I don't care about your 'lived
experience'. You're one of the most racist people on TV. You're a horrible
person and whatever experiences you've had concern me not in the slightest.
And what the hell is 'lived experience, anyway? What other experience could
you have other than that through which you've lived?
I'm sure she means her "lived experience" which makes her better to
talk about this subject than you and your "lived experience".
Well, sure, but why not simply call it 'experience', since there can be no >> other kind?
Because "experience" is a generic term and there's an attempt to put
some special meaning to the term "lived experience."
People-- particularly on the Left, but sometimes on the Right, as well-- seem
to feel obligated to constantly make up new jargony terms for stuff that can >> already by described using normal words in the English language.
Oh, so you mean that should only be allowed by lawyers? ;)
'Social distance' is another one that leaps to mind. Why did we need a new >> term for that? Why couldn't we just call it 'distance'? It's literally means >> the same thing.
It doesn't really. Social distance means staying outside of someone's
social bubble. Which means it isn't a set distance as what I might
require to feel comfortable is likely different from what you or Anim
might require.
Another one that recently seems to have spread everywhere is the use of
'giving' to mean 'implies' or 'seems like'. This is particularly popular
among
GenZers. They say things like,
"She's giving jealousy" instead of "She seems jealous."
Haven't seen that one. I would be a bit confused by someone saying the
former as I'm not sure how one gives jealousy. Does it come in the
form of a pill?
and
"That trailer's giving STAR WARS" instead of "That trailer seems like a STAR >> WARS copy."
I could see the former if they had said "STAR WARS vibes" as I would
then have a sense of what they were meaning and maybe that is what was
meant. Just that the writer chose to leave off the "vibes" portion as
they saw it as a given thing.
On Feb 25, 2025 at 12:08:14 PM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Tue, 25 Feb 2025 19:39:59 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Feb 25, 2025 at 10:51:44 AM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 25 Feb 2025 18:43:43 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Feb 25, 2025 at 1:30:45 AM PST, "Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
Sunny Hostin claimed on Monday that it was "un-Godly" and "not Christian"
to
oppose woke culture, arguing that people who did so only proved that they
did
not care about their neighbors.
Hostin and THE VIEW cohost Whoopi Goldberg discussed their own personal
histories, saying that because they had always been around people who were
fighting for things like Civil Rights and other issues, they had "never
been
asleep".
"I thought about the conversations that you and I have had, Whoopi, so
many
times about the co-opting of the word 'woke,'" Hostin began. "And the fact
that the right somehow has made it a dirty word."
The meanings of words change over time, Sunny. You're allegedly a
highly-educated lawyer, so you should know that.
Do we need to go over the history of the word 'gay' for that concept to sink
through that bone spur you call a skull?
She would likely dance with gay abandon while you talk about that
history.
"And so Whoopi will often tell me, 'I've never been asleep,'" she added.
"And
that's how I feel... so it angers me when people are like, 'This woke >>>>>> stuff
gotta go.' That's telling me that you don't care about my lived experience
Well, you got that one right, Sunny. I don't care about your 'lived >>>>> experience'. You're one of the most racist people on TV. You're a horrible
person and whatever experiences you've had concern me not in the slightest.
And what the hell is 'lived experience, anyway? What other experience could
you have other than that through which you've lived?
I'm sure she means her "lived experience" which makes her better to
talk about this subject than you and your "lived experience".
Well, sure, but why not simply call it 'experience', since there can be no >>> other kind?
Because "experience" is a generic term and there's an attempt to put
some special meaning to the term "lived experience."
Exactly. All the smarmy jargon is supposed to make you think they're somehow special or smarter than you are.
People-- particularly on the Left, but sometimes on the Right, as well-- seem
to feel obligated to constantly make up new jargony terms for stuff that can
already by described using normal words in the English language.
Oh, so you mean that should only be allowed by lawyers? ;)
'Social distance' is another one that leaps to mind. Why did we need a new >>> term for that? Why couldn't we just call it 'distance'? It's literally means
the same thing.
It doesn't really. Social distance means staying outside of someone's
social bubble. Which means it isn't a set distance as what I might
require to feel comfortable is likely different from what you or Anim
might require.
It actually *was* a set distance. Fauci and the CDC claimed it was six feet, which we now know to have been completely made-up with no basis in science.
...
. . .
Because "experience" is a generic term and there's an attempt to put
some special meaning to the term "lived experience." Probably to put
imply more of an emotional connection to the lifetime's worth of
experience.
People-- particularly on the Left, but sometimes on the Right, as well-- seem >>to feel obligated to constantly make up new jargony terms for stuff that can >>already by described using normal words in the English language.
Oh, so you mean that should only be allowed by lawyers? ;)
. . .
“You know what the most ironic thing is?” Ana Navarro asked. “They don’t care >about it, and they don’t care about it while wearing big, fat crosses around >their necks.”
Goldberg weighed in as well, saying that being exposed to “woke” was what >actually made people better and arguing that positive change could really >only be made by making people uncomfortable.
'Social distance' is another one that leaps to mind. Why did we need a new >>term for that? Why couldn't we just call it 'distance'? It's literally means >>the same thing.
It doesn't really. Social distance means staying outside of someone's
social bubble. Which means it isn't a set distance as what I might
require to feel comfortable is likely different from what you or Anim
might require.
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