Four hours ago, William Shatner posted this to the X:
“It’s called Presentism and it was used wreak havoc on history several years ago when statues were torn down, books were banned and things renamed to prove how progressive the world had become. Just listen to my opening monologue on Star Trek TOS on Paramount+. They intentionally garbled it on every episode because I say “where no man has gone before” That’s Presentism at its finest hour. 🤣”
2025-04-09 2:17 PM, anim8rfsk:
Four hours ago, William Shatner posted this to the X:
"It's called Presentism and it was used wreak havoc on history several >>years ago when statues were torn down, books were banned and things renamed >>to prove how progressive the world had become. Just listen to my opening >>monologue on Star Trek TOS on Paramount+. They intentionally garbled it on >>every episode because I say "where no man has gone before" That's >>Presentism at its finest hour."
What does the monologue on Paramount+ say? I have ST:TOS in the enhanced >version but it still has the original monologue.
Is it "to boldly go where no ONE has gone before" or have they gone
full-woke to the point where they list *all* the imaginary genders?
Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com>:
2025-04-09 2:17 PM, anim8rfsk:
Four hours ago, William Shatner posted this to the X:
"It's called Presentism and it was used wreak havoc on history several
years ago when statues were torn down, books were banned and things renamed >>> to prove how progressive the world had become. Just listen to my opening >>> monologue on Star Trek TOS on Paramount+. They intentionally garbled it on >>> every episode because I say "where no man has gone before" That's
Presentism at its finest hour."
What does the monologue on Paramount+ say? I have ST:TOS in the enhanced
version but it still has the original monologue.
Is it "to boldly go where no ONE has gone before" or have they gone
full-woke to the point where they list *all* the imaginary genders?
That was changed for Patrick Stewart to read in Next Generation.
In statutory language, unless it doesn't make sense, use of male gender implies female gender. No thoughtful person ever accused Jefferson of
being anti-feminist with the phrase "All men are created equal". It just sounded more poetic that writing with inclusive language.
On 2025-04-09 2:49 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com>:
2025-04-09 2:17 PM, anim8rfsk:
Four hours ago, William Shatner posted this to the X:
"It's called Presentism and it was used wreak havoc on history several >>>>years ago when statues were torn down, books were banned and things renamed >>>>to prove how progressive the world had become. Just listen to my opening >>>>monologue on Star Trek TOS on Paramount+. They intentionally garbled it on >>>>every episode because I say "where no man has gone before" That's >>>>Presentism at its finest hour."
What does the monologue on Paramount+ say? I have ST:TOS in the enhanced >>>version but it still has the original monologue.
Is it "to boldly go where no ONE has gone before" or have they gone >>>full-woke to the point where they list *all* the imaginary genders?
That was changed for Patrick Stewart to read in Next Generation.
Yes, I know that. I'm just trying to understand what changes they've
made for the version they're showing on Paramount+ now, which have
apparently drawn Shatner's ire.
In statutory language, unless it doesn't make sense, use of male gender >>implies female gender. No thoughtful person ever accused Jefferson of
being anti-feminist with the phrase "All men are created equal". It just >>sounded more poetic that writing with inclusive language.
Yes, I know that, too.
I'm actually okay with Picard's phrasing, although I agree it is
unnecessary pandering to feminists or whoever insisted the original
wording was offensive.
But I will be horrified if it turns out that the Paramount+ wording says >"where no man, woman, non-binary, pan-sexual, two-spirit, queer,
homosexual, lesbian, asexual etc. etc. etc. has gone before".
On 2025-04-09 2:17 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Four hours ago, William Shatner posted this to the X:What does the monologue on Paramount+ say? I have ST:TOS in the enhanced version but it still has the original monologue.
“It’s called Presentism and it was used wreak havoc on history several >> years ago when statues were torn down, books were banned and things renamed >> to prove how progressive the world had become. Just listen to my opening
monologue on Star Trek TOS on Paramount+. They intentionally garbled it on >> every episode because I say “where no man has gone before” That’s
Presentism at its finest hour. 🤣”
Is it "to boldly go where no ONE has gone before" or have they gone
full-woke to the point where they list *all* the imaginary genders?
Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
On 2025-04-09 2:17 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Four hours ago, William Shatner posted this to the X:What does the monologue on Paramount+ say? I have ST:TOS in the enhanced
“It’s called Presentism and it was used wreak havoc on history several >>> years ago when statues were torn down, books were banned and things renamed >>> to prove how progressive the world had become. Just listen to my opening >>> monologue on Star Trek TOS on Paramount+. They intentionally garbled it on >>> every episode because I say “where no man has gone before” That’s
Presentism at its finest hour. 🤣”
version but it still has the original monologue.
First, it’s not “enhanced“ it’s “vandalized“
:-)
I no longer have Paramount+ but if I understand the Shat correctly, they’ve just garbled the audio in the opening so you can’t tell what he says. It’s
no worse than making the gold shirts green or the terrible low end CGI
video game effects.
Is it "to boldly go where no ONE has gone before" or have they gone
full-woke to the point where they list *all* the imaginary genders?
Four hours ago, William Shatner posted this to the X:
“It’s called Presentism and it was used wreak havoc on history several years ago when statues were torn down, books were banned and things renamed to prove how progressive the world had become. Just listen to my opening monologue on Star Trek TOS on Paramount+. They intentionally garbled it on every episode because I say “where no man has gone before” That’s Presentism at its finest hour. 🤣”
On 4/9/2025 2:17 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Four hours ago, William Shatner posted this to the X:
"It's called Presentism and it was used wreak havoc on history several
years ago when statues were torn down, books were banned and things
renamed to prove how progressive the world had become. Just listen to
my opening monologue on Star Trek TOS on Paramount+. They intentionally
garbled it on every episode because I say "where no man has gone before"
That's Presentism at its finest hour. 🤣”
Although Shatner walks on water, he glosses over some harder issues,
such as statues that toggle between 'history' and 'admiration'.
Four hours ago, William Shatner posted this to the X:
"It's called Presentism and it was used wreak havoc on history several
years ago when statues were torn down, books were banned and things renamed >to prove how progressive the world had become. Just listen to my opening >monologue on Star Trek TOS on Paramount+. They intentionally garbled it on >every episode because I say "where no man has gone before” That's >Presentism at its finest hour. 🤣”
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