• [OT] How Australia's elections work

    From Rhino@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 13 12:04:54 2025
    I knew Australia was due for an election this year so I wasn't totally
    shocked that the campaign is already under way. I found this as I
    started to dig into the election to see how things were progressing.
    It's an explanation of how voting works in Australia, which is one of
    the few countries that has mandatory voting. (I'm not clear what the
    penalty is if you don't vote but I *think* it is a smallish fine.)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl4Ea7N1wwc [4 minutes]


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    Rhino

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Rhino on Sun Apr 13 16:40:03 2025
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    I knew Australia was due for an election this year so I wasn't totally >shocked that the campaign is already under way. I found this as I
    started to dig into the election to see how things were progressing.
    It's an explanation of how voting works in Australia, which is one of
    the few countries that has mandatory voting. (I'm not clear what the
    penalty is if you don't vote but I *think* it is a smallish fine.)

    One article said AUS $20; another said $110. I wonder if it varies by
    state. It has the effect of forcing problems to address issues affecting
    the young without exclusively pandering to pensioners, supposedly.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl4Ea7N1wwc [4 minutes]

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  • From Ian J. Ball@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Sun Apr 13 10:20:31 2025
    On 4/13/25 9:40 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    I knew Australia was due for an election this year so I wasn't totally
    shocked that the campaign is already under way. I found this as I
    started to dig into the election to see how things were progressing.
    It's an explanation of how voting works in Australia, which is one of
    the few countries that has mandatory voting. (I'm not clear what the
    penalty is if you don't vote but I *think* it is a smallish fine.)

    One article said AUS $20; another said $110. I wonder if it varies by
    state. It has the effect of forcing problems to address issues affecting
    the young without exclusively pandering to pensioners, supposedly.

    I thot not voting (for Labour!) got you a firing squad?...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl4Ea7N1wwc [4 minutes]

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Sun Apr 13 14:01:06 2025
    On 2025-04-13 12:40 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    I knew Australia was due for an election this year so I wasn't totally
    shocked that the campaign is already under way. I found this as I
    started to dig into the election to see how things were progressing.
    It's an explanation of how voting works in Australia, which is one of
    the few countries that has mandatory voting. (I'm not clear what the
    penalty is if you don't vote but I *think* it is a smallish fine.)

    One article said AUS $20; another said $110. I wonder if it varies by
    state. It has the effect of forcing problems

    I assume you meant to say "voters" rather than "problems" ;-)

    to address issues affecting
    the young without exclusively pandering to pensioners, supposedly.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl4Ea7N1wwc [4 minutes]


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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to Ian J. Ball on Sun Apr 13 14:02:48 2025
    On 2025-04-13 1:20 PM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
    On 4/13/25 9:40 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    I knew Australia was due for an election this year so I wasn't totally
    shocked that the campaign is already under way. I found this as I
    started to dig into the election to see how things were progressing.
    It's an explanation of how voting works in Australia, which is one of
    the few countries that has mandatory voting. (I'm not clear what the
    penalty is if you don't vote but I *think* it is a smallish fine.)

    One article said AUS $20; another said $110. I wonder if it varies by
    state. It has the effect of forcing problems to address issues affecting
    the young without exclusively pandering to pensioners, supposedly.

    I thot not voting (for Labour!) got you a firing squad?...

    That's probably the penalty Labour wanted but couldn't quite get the
    other parties to go for ;-)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl4Ea7N1wwc [4 minutes]



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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Rhino on Sun Apr 13 18:24:41 2025
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2025-04-13 12:40 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    I knew Australia was due for an election this year so I wasn't totally >>>shocked that the campaign is already under way. I found this as I
    started to dig into the election to see how things were progressing.
    It's an explanation of how voting works in Australia, which is one of
    the few countries that has mandatory voting. (I'm not clear what the >>>penalty is if you don't vote but I *think* it is a smallish fine.)

    One article said AUS $20; another said $110. I wonder if it varies by >>state. It has the effect of forcing problems

    I assume you meant to say "voters" rather than "problems" ;-)

    Hm. That should have been "elected officials".

    to address issues affecting
    the young without exclusively pandering to pensioners, supposedly.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl4Ea7N1wwc [4 minutes]

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Ian J. Ball on Mon Apr 14 10:44:42 2025
    On 2025-04-13 17:20:31 +0000, Ian J. Ball said:
    On 4/13/25 9:40 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    I knew Australia was due for an election this year so I wasn't totally
    shocked that the campaign is already under way. I found this as I
    started to dig into the election to see how things were progressing.
    It's an explanation of how voting works in Australia, which is one of
    the few countries that has mandatory voting. (I'm not clear what the
    penalty is if you don't vote but I *think* it is a smallish fine.)

    One article said AUS $20; another said $110. I wonder if it varies by
    state. It has the effect of forcing problems to address issues affecting
    the young without exclusively pandering to pensioners, supposedly.

    I thot not voting (for Labour!) got you a firing squad?...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl4Ea7N1wwc [4 minutes]

    Enforcing voting doesn't really change anything. It simply annoys
    people by making them turn up to the voting places, and those who do
    not want to vote will void the voting forms by scribbling on them
    before putting them into the box, or simply putting the blank voting
    forms into the voting box.

    The only way to actually enforcing voting is for someone to officially
    check each form has been filled out properly before it is put into the
    voting box, which then makes a mockery of the entire anonymous /
    private voting of the so-called 'democratic process'.

    If people do not want to vote, that is their choice. Besides which, all
    of the candidates are useless morons, so it is not even worth voting
    for any one of them over the others.

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