• Defying 200+ Years of 1A Precedent, Federal Judge Rules XX Armbands Can

    From BTR1701@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 16 16:39:50 2025
    https://nhjournal.com/judge-rules-school-can-ban-xx-protests-over-males-in-girls-sports/

    The Bow School District was acting within its authority to kick two soccer
    dads out of a girls game for wearing pink XX wristbands as a silent protest against biological males playing on girls' teams, a federal judge ruled
    Monday.

    But one of the dads, Anthony Foote, told NHJournal he plans to keep fighting for what he sees as the rights of women and girls.

    "What was our offense? Supporting girls' sports and defending biological reality?" Foote said. "This ruling is a slap in the face to every parent who believes schools should be a place of fairness, not political indoctrination. The judge openly admitted that Pride flags are allowed because they promote 'inclusion', but wristbands defending women's sports are banned because they might 'offend' someone. That's viewpoint discrimination, plain and simple and it's unconstitutional."

    United States District Court Judge Steven McAuliffe ruled against Foote, Kyle Fellers, Eldon Rash, and Nicole Foote in a 45-page order denying their preliminary injunction against SAU 67. The parents are being represented by
    the Institute for Free Speech, a legal nonprofit that promotes parents'
    rights. Del Kolde, the senior attorney, said he is still considering his next steps in this case.

    "We strongly disagree with the court's opinion issued today denying our
    request for a preliminary injunction. This was adult speech in a limited
    public forum, which enjoys greater 1st Amendment protection than student
    speech in the classroom. Bow School District officials were obviously discriminating based on viewpoint because they perceived the XX wristbands to be 'trans-exclusionary''. We are still evaluating our options for next steps," Kolde said.

    The crux of McAuliffe's ruling is that while Fellers, Foote, and the others acted within their 1st Amendment rights to protest, venues like school
    athletic events are considered "limited public forums" and school officials acted within their legal authority to restrict what the parents said and did.

    "The question then becomes whether the School District can manage its athletic events and its athletic fields and facilities that is, its limited public forum in a manner that protects its students from adult speech that can reasonably be seen to target a specific student participating in the event (as well as other similar gender-identifying students) by invited adult
    spectators, when that speech demeans, harasses, intimidates, and bullies. The answer is straightforward: Of course it can. Indeed, school authorities are obligated to do so," McAuliffe wrote.

    For days before the Sept. 10, 2024, game, Anthony Foote and Fellers made it known to school officials that they were unhappy Bow High School was going to play a game against a girls' team with a biological male player, Parker Tirrell.

    Days before the game, Tirrell made national news with a court victory against the state of New Hampshire's law barring biological males from girls' sports.

    The dads went on social media to discuss various protest ideas, according to the evidence in the case. McAuliffe wrote that it is reasonable, given the context of the game, for SAU 67 administrators to be concerned that the potential protests would be interpreted by Tirrell as bullying and harassing.

    And as such, the judge ruled, the school had the right to limit the dads' speech.

    "The message generally ascribed to the XX symbol, in a context such as that presented here, can reasonably be understood as directly assaulting those who identify as transgender women," McAuliffe wrote. "Because gender identities
    are characteristics of personal identity that are 'unalterable or otherwise deeply rooted', the demeaning of which 'strikes a person at the core of his being', and because Bow school authorities reasonably interpreted the symbols used by plaintiffs, in context, as conveying a demeaning and harassing
    message, they properly interceded to protect students from injuries likely to be suffered."

    Fellers and Foote have maintained they were not targeting or harassing any particular student with their wristbands. McAuliffe ruled that, even accepting their stated intent not to harass Tirrell, the broader context for the game made the SAU's actions reasonable and justified.

    "While plaintiffs may very well have never intended to communicate a demeaning or harassing message directed at Parker Tirrell or any other transgender students, the symbols and posters they displayed were fully capable of conveying such a message and that broader messaging is what the school authorities reasonably understood and appropriately tried to prevent," McAuliffe said.

    Critics of the judge's ruling say that it is clearly viewpoint discrimination and the judge's view that "gender identity" is "inalterable" isn't based on biological fact or in law.

    McAuliffe has yet to rule on the permanent injunction. Fellers, Foote, and the other parents are seeking to allow them to protest at school games and other events.

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Wed Apr 16 18:16:08 2025
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    https://nhjournal.com/judge-rules-school-can-ban-xx-protests-over-males-in-girls-sports/

    The Bow School District was acting within its authority to kick two soccer >dads out of a girls game for wearing pink XX wristbands as a silent protest >against biological males playing on girls' teams, a federal judge ruled >Monday.

    You win the month. I'm not going to read anything more likely to make my
    head explode any harder.

    Let me address this directly.

    "The message generally ascribed to the XX symbol, in a context
    such as that presented here, can reasonably be understood as
    directly assaulting those who identify as transgender women,"
    [United States District Court Judge Steven] McAuliffe wrote.
    "Because gender identities are characteristics of personal
    identity that are 'unalterable or otherwise deeply rooted,' the
    demeaning of which 'strikes a person at the core of his being,'
    and because Bow school authorities reasonably interpreted the
    symbols used by plaintiffs, in context, as conveying a demeaning
    and harassing message, they properly interceded to protect
    students from injuries likely to be suffered."

    Let's set aside that I'm questioning how McAuliffe passed his
    constitutional law class as a 1L, let alone graduated, passed the exam,
    got admitted to the bar, and then appointed as a judge.

    The transgender girl playing for the other team (Hey! That's NOT a double entendre!) is not a party to this case, so it's not about the right of a transgender girl not to be discriminated against in girls' sports. Instead, it's about the right of third parties -- the school board and the athletic conference it is a member of -- imposing transgender ideology upon the
    sport itself not to be accused of discrimination themselves and putting
    girls in harm's way when criticized by their parents. Somehow the judge accepted the argument -- the school board's right not to be criticized
    can be justified by the duty we have to protect a transgender girl from
    feeling criticized (ignoring the duty to protect girls playing girls'
    sports from an increased likelihood of trauma) -- as a sound basis for
    his ruling.

    But his ruling itself CONTRADICTS transgender ideology. According to
    this ideology gender identity and characteristics are personal but NOT "unalterable or otherwise deeply rooted". Transgender ideology claims
    that gender, a related but separate concept than sex, is mutable!

    If the boy in question wasn't competitive enough to play on the boys'
    team for his school, then his gender identity ain't deeply rooted. but
    mutable in order to be pandered to. That's irrelevant to the case as the transgender girl wasn't a party. It's odd that the school board claimed
    a duty to a play on the opposing team but no duty to protect the girls
    from harm on the team it fielded.

    I am now going to wander off into the wilderness to reconsider my place
    in the modern world in which a judge allows a government to punish its
    critics, denying them their liberties as Americans, and remain on the
    bench.

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 16 19:12:22 2025
    On Apr 16, 2025 at 11:16:08 AM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com>
    wrote:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:


    https://nhjournal.com/judge-rules-school-can-ban-xx-protests-over-males-in-girls-sports/

    The Bow School District was acting within its authority to kick two soccer >> dads out of a girls game for wearing pink XX wristbands as a silent protest >> against biological males playing on girls' teams, a federal judge ruled
    Monday.

    You win the month. I'm not going to read anything more likely to make my
    head explode any harder.

    Let me address this directly.

    "The message generally ascribed to the XX symbol, in a context
    such as that presented here, can reasonably be understood as
    directly assaulting those who identify as transgender women,"
    [United States District Court Judge Steven] McAuliffe wrote.
    "Because gender identities are characteristics of personal
    identity that are 'unalterable or otherwise deeply rooted,' the
    demeaning of which 'strikes a person at the core of his being,'
    and because Bow school authorities reasonably interpreted the
    symbols used by plaintiffs, in context, as conveying a demeaning
    and harassing message, they properly interceded to protect
    students from injuries likely to be suffered."

    Let's set aside that I'm questioning how McAuliffe passed his
    constitutional law class as a 1L, let alone graduated, passed the exam,
    got admitted to the bar, and then appointed as a judge.

    Not to mention, he's committing the hate crime of claiming that gender
    identity is "unalterable or otherwise deeply rooted", which is something the Password Mafia decrees to be transphobic. It denies the lived reality of
    people who are non-binary/gender fluid, who can be a man one day, a woman the next, and a pan-sexual otherkin who identifies as a Golden Retriever on
    Friday.

    The transgender girl playing for the other team (Hey! That's NOT a double entendre!) is not a party to this case, so it's not about the right of a transgender girl not to be discriminated against in girls' sports. Instead, it's about the right of third parties -- the school board and the athletic conference it is a member of -- imposing transgender ideology upon the
    sport itself not to be accused of discrimination themselves and putting
    girls in harm's way when criticized by their parents. Somehow the judge accepted the argument -- the school board's right not to be criticized
    can be justified by the duty we have to protect a transgender girl from feeling criticized (ignoring the duty to protect girls playing girls'
    sports from an increased likelihood of trauma) -- as a sound basis for
    his ruling.

    But his ruling itself CONTRADICTS transgender ideology. According to
    this ideology gender identity and characteristics are personal but NOT "unalterable or otherwise deeply rooted". Transgender ideology claims
    that gender, a related but separate concept than sex, is mutable!

    Shit. I should have read all the way before responding.

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 16 15:11:15 2025
    On 4/16/2025 12:39 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

    https://nhjournal.com/judge-rules-school-can-ban-xx-protests-over-males-in-girls-sports/

    The Bow School District was acting within its authority to kick two soccer dads out of a girls game for wearing pink XX wristbands as a silent protest against biological males playing on girls' teams, a federal judge ruled Monday.

    But one of the dads, Anthony Foote, told NHJournal he plans to keep fighting for what he sees as the rights of women and girls.

    "What was our offense? Supporting girls' sports and defending biological reality?" Foote said. "This ruling is a slap in the face to every parent who believes schools should be a place of fairness, not political indoctrination. The judge openly admitted that Pride flags are allowed because they promote 'inclusion', but wristbands defending women's sports are banned because they might 'offend' someone. That's viewpoint discrimination, plain and simple and
    it's unconstitutional."

    United States District Court Judge Steven McAuliffe ruled against Foote, Kyle Fellers, Eldon Rash, and Nicole Foote in a 45-page order denying their preliminary injunction against SAU 67. The parents are being represented by the Institute for Free Speech, a legal nonprofit that promotes parents' rights. Del Kolde, the senior attorney, said he is still considering his next steps in this case.

    "We strongly disagree with the court's opinion issued today denying our request for a preliminary injunction. This was adult speech in a limited public forum, which enjoys greater 1st Amendment protection than student speech in the classroom. Bow School District officials were obviously discriminating based on viewpoint because they perceived the XX wristbands to be 'trans-exclusionary''. We are still evaluating our options for next steps,"
    Kolde said.

    The crux of McAuliffe's ruling is that while Fellers, Foote, and the others acted within their 1st Amendment rights to protest, venues like school athletic events are considered "limited public forums" and school officials acted within their legal authority to restrict what the parents said and did.

    "The question then becomes whether the School District can manage its athletic
    events and its athletic fields and facilities that is, its limited public forum in a manner that protects its students from adult speech that can reasonably be seen to target a specific student participating in the event (as
    well as other similar gender-identifying students) by invited adult spectators, when that speech demeans, harasses, intimidates, and bullies. The answer is straightforward: Of course it can. Indeed, school authorities are obligated to do so," McAuliffe wrote.

    For days before the Sept. 10, 2024, game, Anthony Foote and Fellers made it known to school officials that they were unhappy Bow High School was going to play a game against a girls' team with a biological male player, Parker Tirrell.

    Days before the game, Tirrell made national news with a court victory against the state of New Hampshire's law barring biological males from girls' sports.

    The dads went on social media to discuss various protest ideas, according to the evidence in the case. McAuliffe wrote that it is reasonable, given the context of the game, for SAU 67 administrators to be concerned that the potential protests would be interpreted by Tirrell as bullying and harassing.

    And as such, the judge ruled, the school had the right to limit the dads' speech.

    "The message generally ascribed to the XX symbol, in a context such as that presented here, can reasonably be understood as directly assaulting those who identify as transgender women," McAuliffe wrote. "Because gender identities are characteristics of personal identity that are 'unalterable or otherwise deeply rooted', the demeaning of which 'strikes a person at the core of his being', and because Bow school authorities reasonably interpreted the symbols used by plaintiffs, in context, as conveying a demeaning and harassing message, they properly interceded to protect students from injuries likely to be suffered."

    Fellers and Foote have maintained they were not targeting or harassing any particular student with their wristbands. McAuliffe ruled that, even accepting
    their stated intent not to harass Tirrell, the broader context for the game made the SAU's actions reasonable and justified.

    "While plaintiffs may very well have never intended to communicate a demeaning
    or harassing message directed at Parker Tirrell or any other transgender students, the symbols and posters they displayed were fully capable of conveying such a message and that broader messaging is what the school authorities reasonably understood and appropriately tried to prevent," McAuliffe said.

    Critics of the judge's ruling say that it is clearly viewpoint discrimination and the judge's view that "gender identity" is "inalterable" isn't based on biological fact or in law.

    McAuliffe has yet to rule on the permanent injunction. Fellers, Foote, and the
    other parents are seeking to allow them to protest at school games and other events.

    I wonder if, say, Swastika hats should be permitted on the sidelines.

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to moviePig on Wed Apr 16 19:13:17 2025
    On Apr 16, 2025 at 12:11:15 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 4/16/2025 12:39 PM, BTR1701 wrote:


    https://nhjournal.com/judge-rules-school-can-ban-xx-protests-over-males-in-girls-sports/

    The Bow School District was acting within its authority to kick two soccer >> dads out of a girls game for wearing pink XX wristbands as a silent protest >> against biological males playing on girls' teams, a federal judge ruled
    Monday.

    But one of the dads, Anthony Foote, told NHJournal he plans to keep fighting
    for what he sees as the rights of women and girls.

    "What was our offense? Supporting girls' sports and defending biological
    reality?" Foote said. "This ruling is a slap in the face to every parent who
    believes schools should be a place of fairness, not political
    indoctrination.
    The judge openly admitted that Pride flags are allowed because they promote >> 'inclusion', but wristbands defending women's sports are banned because they
    might 'offend' someone. That's viewpoint discrimination, plain and simple >> and
    it's unconstitutional."

    United States District Court Judge Steven McAuliffe ruled against Foote,
    Kyle
    Fellers, Eldon Rash, and Nicole Foote in a 45-page order denying their
    preliminary injunction against SAU 67. The parents are being represented by >> the Institute for Free Speech, a legal nonprofit that promotes parents'
    rights. Del Kolde, the senior attorney, said he is still considering his
    next
    steps in this case.

    "We strongly disagree with the court's opinion issued today denying our
    request for a preliminary injunction. This was adult speech in a limited
    public forum, which enjoys greater 1st Amendment protection than student
    speech in the classroom. Bow School District officials were obviously
    discriminating based on viewpoint because they perceived the XX wristbands >> to
    be 'trans-exclusionary''. We are still evaluating our options for next
    steps,"
    Kolde said.

    The crux of McAuliffe's ruling is that while Fellers, Foote, and the others >> acted within their 1st Amendment rights to protest, venues like school
    athletic events are considered "limited public forums" and school officials >> acted within their legal authority to restrict what the parents said and
    did.

    "The question then becomes whether the School District can manage its
    athletic
    events and its athletic fields and facilities that is, its limited public >> forum in a manner that protects its students from adult speech that can
    reasonably be seen to target a specific student participating in the event >> (as
    well as other similar gender-identifying students) by invited adult
    spectators, when that speech demeans, harasses, intimidates, and bullies. >> The
    answer is straightforward: Of course it can. Indeed, school authorities are >> obligated to do so," McAuliffe wrote.

    For days before the Sept. 10, 2024, game, Anthony Foote and Fellers made it >> known to school officials that they were unhappy Bow High School was going >> to
    play a game against a girls' team with a biological male player, Parker
    Tirrell.

    Days before the game, Tirrell made national news with a court victory
    against
    the state of New Hampshire's law barring biological males from girls'
    sports.

    The dads went on social media to discuss various protest ideas, according to
    the evidence in the case. McAuliffe wrote that it is reasonable, given the >> context of the game, for SAU 67 administrators to be concerned that the
    potential protests would be interpreted by Tirrell as bullying and
    harassing.

    And as such, the judge ruled, the school had the right to limit the dads' >> speech.

    "The message generally ascribed to the XX symbol, in a context such as that >> presented here, can reasonably be understood as directly assaulting those >> who
    identify as transgender women," McAuliffe wrote. "Because gender identities >> are characteristics of personal identity that are 'unalterable or otherwise >> deeply rooted', the demeaning of which 'strikes a person at the core of his >> being', and because Bow school authorities reasonably interpreted the
    symbols
    used by plaintiffs, in context, as conveying a demeaning and harassing
    message, they properly interceded to protect students from injuries likely >> to
    be suffered."

    Fellers and Foote have maintained they were not targeting or harassing any >> particular student with their wristbands. McAuliffe ruled that, even
    accepting
    their stated intent not to harass Tirrell, the broader context for the game >> made the SAU's actions reasonable and justified.

    "While plaintiffs may very well have never intended to communicate a
    demeaning
    or harassing message directed at Parker Tirrell or any other transgender
    students, the symbols and posters they displayed were fully capable of
    conveying such a message and that broader messaging is what the school
    authorities reasonably understood and appropriately tried to prevent,"
    McAuliffe said.

    Critics of the judge's ruling say that it is clearly viewpoint
    discrimination
    and the judge's view that "gender identity" is "inalterable" isn't based on >> biological fact or in law.

    McAuliffe has yet to rule on the permanent injunction. Fellers, Foote, and >> the
    other parents are seeking to allow them to protest at school games and other
    events.

    I wonder if, say, Swastika hats should be permitted on the sidelines.

    Yes, and let them suffer the slings and arrows that come their way for wearing them.

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 16 16:52:51 2025
    On 4/16/2025 3:13 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Apr 16, 2025 at 12:11:15 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 4/16/2025 12:39 PM, BTR1701 wrote:


    https://nhjournal.com/judge-rules-school-can-ban-xx-protests-over-males-in-girls-sports/

    The Bow School District was acting within its authority to kick two soccer
    dads out of a girls game for wearing pink XX wristbands as a silent protest
    against biological males playing on girls' teams, a federal judge ruled >>> Monday.

    But one of the dads, Anthony Foote, told NHJournal he plans to keep fighting
    for what he sees as the rights of women and girls.

    "What was our offense? Supporting girls' sports and defending biological >>> reality?" Foote said. "This ruling is a slap in the face to every parent who
    believes schools should be a place of fairness, not political
    indoctrination.
    The judge openly admitted that Pride flags are allowed because they promote
    'inclusion', but wristbands defending women's sports are banned because they
    might 'offend' someone. That's viewpoint discrimination, plain and simple >>> and
    it's unconstitutional."

    United States District Court Judge Steven McAuliffe ruled against Foote, >>> Kyle
    Fellers, Eldon Rash, and Nicole Foote in a 45-page order denying their >>> preliminary injunction against SAU 67. The parents are being represented by
    the Institute for Free Speech, a legal nonprofit that promotes parents' >>> rights. Del Kolde, the senior attorney, said he is still considering his >>> next
    steps in this case.

    "We strongly disagree with the court's opinion issued today denying our >>> request for a preliminary injunction. This was adult speech in a limited >>> public forum, which enjoys greater 1st Amendment protection than student >>> speech in the classroom. Bow School District officials were obviously
    discriminating based on viewpoint because they perceived the XX wristbands
    to
    be 'trans-exclusionary''. We are still evaluating our options for next >>> steps,"
    Kolde said.

    The crux of McAuliffe's ruling is that while Fellers, Foote, and the others
    acted within their 1st Amendment rights to protest, venues like school >>> athletic events are considered "limited public forums" and school officials
    acted within their legal authority to restrict what the parents said and >>> did.

    "The question then becomes whether the School District can manage its
    athletic
    events and its athletic fields and facilities that is, its limited public
    forum in a manner that protects its students from adult speech that can >>> reasonably be seen to target a specific student participating in the event
    (as
    well as other similar gender-identifying students) by invited adult
    spectators, when that speech demeans, harasses, intimidates, and bullies. >>> The
    answer is straightforward: Of course it can. Indeed, school authorities are
    obligated to do so," McAuliffe wrote.

    For days before the Sept. 10, 2024, game, Anthony Foote and Fellers made it
    known to school officials that they were unhappy Bow High School was going
    to
    play a game against a girls' team with a biological male player, Parker >>> Tirrell.

    Days before the game, Tirrell made national news with a court victory
    against
    the state of New Hampshire's law barring biological males from girls'
    sports.

    The dads went on social media to discuss various protest ideas, according to
    the evidence in the case. McAuliffe wrote that it is reasonable, given the
    context of the game, for SAU 67 administrators to be concerned that the >>> potential protests would be interpreted by Tirrell as bullying and
    harassing.

    And as such, the judge ruled, the school had the right to limit the dads' >>> speech.

    "The message generally ascribed to the XX symbol, in a context such as that
    presented here, can reasonably be understood as directly assaulting those >>> who
    identify as transgender women," McAuliffe wrote. "Because gender identities
    are characteristics of personal identity that are 'unalterable or otherwise
    deeply rooted', the demeaning of which 'strikes a person at the core of his
    being', and because Bow school authorities reasonably interpreted the
    symbols
    used by plaintiffs, in context, as conveying a demeaning and harassing >>> message, they properly interceded to protect students from injuries likely
    to
    be suffered."

    Fellers and Foote have maintained they were not targeting or harassing any
    particular student with their wristbands. McAuliffe ruled that, even
    accepting
    their stated intent not to harass Tirrell, the broader context for the game
    made the SAU's actions reasonable and justified.

    "While plaintiffs may very well have never intended to communicate a
    demeaning
    or harassing message directed at Parker Tirrell or any other transgender >>> students, the symbols and posters they displayed were fully capable of >>> conveying such a message and that broader messaging is what the school >>> authorities reasonably understood and appropriately tried to prevent," >>> McAuliffe said.

    Critics of the judge's ruling say that it is clearly viewpoint
    discrimination
    and the judge's view that "gender identity" is "inalterable" isn't based on
    biological fact or in law.

    McAuliffe has yet to rule on the permanent injunction. Fellers, Foote, and
    the
    other parents are seeking to allow them to protest at school games and other
    events.

    I wonder if, say, Swastika hats should be permitted on the sidelines.

    Yes, and let them suffer the slings and arrows that come their way for wearing
    them.

    While I agree with that burden aspect, it'd be nice to keep kids' games
    free of *all* such identity noise (including, e.g., "pride" flags).

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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to moviepig on Thu Apr 17 04:30:45 2025
    moviepig wrote:
    On 4/16/2025 12:39 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

    The Bow School District was acting within its authority to kick two soccer >> dads out of a girls game for wearing pink XX wristbands as a silent protest >> against biological males playing on girls' teams, a federal judge ruled
    Monday.

    I wonder if, say, Swastika hats should be permitted on the sidelines.

    Goodwin's Law violation noted. Get back to us when you have a real argument to make.

    --
    Mike Goodwin
    "By all means cite GL if you think some Nazi comparison is baseless,
    needlessly inflammatory or hyperbolic."

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