• Muslims Cosplaying as Cops, Enforcing Sharia Law on Public in NYC

    From BTR1701@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 23 18:59:46 2025
    If the city politicians and police weren't cool with this, they'd have a slam-duck impersonation case against every one of these guys, so the fact that they're able to do this without any pushback indicates the city is perfectly fine with Sharia patrols in New York. The frog is in the pot and the heat is slowly rising.

    Why doesn't any of this shit ever happen around me? I would *love* to have
    some Islamist fake cop try to enforce his religion on me. That would be a fun day.

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    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1914886468197335040/vid/avc1/712x444/wdmNr8H_1tMSmooU.mp4?tag=16

    Muslim Community Patrols are driving through New York neighborhoods

    Dressed like police officers and driving cars identical to police squad cars, they are stopping to harass people for things like drinking alcohol, claiming "this is a Muslim area and alcohol is not permitted".

    The Muslim Community Patrol & Services (MCPS) operates volunteer patrols in Brooklyn, New York, using NYPD-like Ford Taurus vehicles with red and white lights to deter crime around mosques and schools.

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Wed Apr 23 21:39:16 2025
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    If the city politicians and police weren't cool with this, they'd have a >slam-duck impersonation case against every one of these guys,

    The vehicles do resemble squad cars but the initials are different. The
    badge is different. It's meant to intimidate but short of making
    threats, what crime is committed?

    The painting wasn't sold as forgery if the artist copying the master's
    work signed it himself,

    so the fact that they're able to do this without any pushback indicates
    the city is perfectly fine with Sharia patrols in New York. The frog is
    in the pot and the heat is slowly rising.

    Why doesn't any of this shit ever happen around me? I would *love* to have >some Islamist fake cop try to enforce his religion on me. That would be a fun >day.

    ----------------------------

    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1914886468197335040/vid/avc1/712x444/wdmNr8H_1tMSmooU.mp4?tag=16

    Muslim Community Patrols are driving through New York neighborhoods

    Dressed like police officers and driving cars identical to police squad cars, >they are stopping to harass people for things like drinking alcohol, claiming >"this is a Muslim area and alcohol is not permitted".

    The Muslim Community Patrol & Services (MCPS) operates volunteer patrols in >Brooklyn, New York, using NYPD-like Ford Taurus vehicles with red and white >lights to deter crime around mosques and schools.

    I don't see this as any different than the plaintiff-appellant's
    position just taken in Braidwood Management, Inc. v. Becerra, that their
    free exercise of religion includes the right to regulate the behavior of others.

    What federal court decision protects me from crap like this?

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Thu Apr 24 00:12:40 2025
    Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    If the city politicians and police weren't cool with this, they'd have a >>slam-duck impersonation case against every one of these guys,

    The vehicles do resemble squad cars but the initials are different. The
    badge is different. It's meant to intimidate but short of making
    threats, what crime is committed?

    The painting wasn't sold as forgery if the artist copying the master's
    work signed it himself,

    so the fact that they're able to do this without any pushback indicates
    the city is perfectly fine with Sharia patrols in New York. The frog is
    in the pot and the heat is slowly rising.

    Why doesn't any of this shit ever happen around me? I would *love* to have >>some Islamist fake cop try to enforce his religion on me. That would be a fun >>day.

    ----------------------------

    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1914886468197335040/vid/avc1/712x444/wdmNr8H_1tMSmooU.mp4?tag=16

    Muslim Community Patrols are driving through New York neighborhoods

    Dressed like police officers and driving cars identical to police squad cars, >>they are stopping to harass people for things like drinking alcohol, claiming >>"this is a Muslim area and alcohol is not permitted".

    The Muslim Community Patrol & Services (MCPS) operates volunteer patrols in >>Brooklyn, New York, using NYPD-like Ford Taurus vehicles with red and white >>lights to deter crime around mosques and schools.

    I don't see this as any different than the plaintiff-appellant's
    position just taken in Braidwood Management, Inc. v. Becerra, that their
    free exercise of religion includes the right to regulate the behavior of >others.

    What federal court decision protects me from crap like this?

    The photograph was in this article published February 3, 2019. Is this
    still going on? Even though the photograph doesn't show the red and blue flashers, the article says the vehicles are so equipped.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/03/nyregion/muslim-community-patrol-brooklyn.html

    There's nothing in the article about attempts to enforce an alchohol bam
    or any other ban according to Sharia Law. Where did you read about that?

    I was just about to include this in something I'm writing but now, I
    don't see how I can.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 24 07:29:28 2025
    On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 18:59:46 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
    wrote:

    If the city politicians and police weren't cool with this, they'd have a >slam-duck impersonation case against every one of these guys, so the fact that >they're able to do this without any pushback indicates the city is perfectly >fine with Sharia patrols in New York. The frog is in the pot and the heat is >slowly rising.

    Why doesn't any of this shit ever happen around me? I would *love* to have >some Islamist fake cop try to enforce his religion on me. That would be a fun >day.

    ----------------------------

    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1914886468197335040/vid/avc1/712x444/wdmNr8H_1tMSmooU.mp4?tag=16

    Muslim Community Patrols are driving through New York neighborhoods

    Dressed like police officers and driving cars identical to police squad cars, >they are stopping to harass people for things like drinking alcohol, claiming >"this is a Muslim area and alcohol is not permitted".

    The Muslim Community Patrol & Services (MCPS) operates volunteer patrols in >Brooklyn, New York, using NYPD-like Ford Taurus vehicles with red and white >lights to deter crime around mosques and schools.


    Just great.....

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to ahk@chinet.com on Thu Apr 24 07:31:03 2025
    On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 21:39:16 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    If the city politicians and police weren't cool with this, they'd have a >>slam-duck impersonation case against every one of these guys,

    The vehicles do resemble squad cars but the initials are different. The
    badge is different. It's meant to intimidate but short of making
    threats, what crime is committed?

    The painting wasn't sold as forgery if the artist copying the master's
    work signed it himself,

    so the fact that they're able to do this without any pushback indicates
    the city is perfectly fine with Sharia patrols in New York. The frog is
    in the pot and the heat is slowly rising.

    Why doesn't any of this shit ever happen around me? I would *love* to have >>some Islamist fake cop try to enforce his religion on me. That would be a fun >>day.

    ----------------------------

    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1914886468197335040/vid/avc1/712x444/wdmNr8H_1tMSmooU.mp4?tag=16

    Muslim Community Patrols are driving through New York neighborhoods

    Dressed like police officers and driving cars identical to police squad cars, >>they are stopping to harass people for things like drinking alcohol, claiming >>"this is a Muslim area and alcohol is not permitted".

    The Muslim Community Patrol & Services (MCPS) operates volunteer patrols in >>Brooklyn, New York, using NYPD-like Ford Taurus vehicles with red and white >>lights to deter crime around mosques and schools.

    I don't see this as any different than the plaintiff-appellant's
    position just taken in Braidwood Management, Inc. v. Becerra, that their
    free exercise of religion includes the right to regulate the behavior of >others.

    What federal court decision protects me from crap like this?

    So you're good with people impersonating the police?
    Let's send them to YOUR house.

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Thu Apr 24 18:58:02 2025
    On Apr 23, 2025 at 5:12:40 PM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    If the city politicians and police weren't cool with this, they'd have a >>> slam-duck impersonation case against every one of these guys,

    The vehicles do resemble squad cars but the initials are different. The
    badge is different. It's meant to intimidate but short of making
    threats, what crime is committed?

    Impersonation doesn't require an exact match. Driving a marked squad car that is nearly identical to NYPD cars, wearing uniforms with badges, etc. all
    create a reasonable impression in the mind of the average citizen that they
    are law enforcement officers. Add to that their behavior-- giving people
    orders as if they have legal authority-- and you have a pretty airtight case
    of impersonation.

    Also, the emergency lights on the vehicles would be a separate criminal
    offense in California. I assume New York has a similar law.

    The painting wasn't sold as forgery if the artist copying the master's
    work signed it himself,

    so the fact that they're able to do this without any pushback indicates
    the city is perfectly fine with Sharia patrols in New York. The frog is
    in the pot and the heat is slowly rising.

    Why doesn't any of this shit ever happen around me? I would *love* to have >>> some Islamist fake cop try to enforce his religion on me. That would be a fun
    day.

    ----------------------------


    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1914886468197335040/vid/avc1/712x444/wdmNr8H_1tMSmooU.mp4?tag=16

    Muslim Community Patrols are driving through New York neighborhoods

    Dressed like police officers and driving cars identical to police squad cars,
    they are stopping to harass people for things like drinking alcohol, claiming
    "this is a Muslim area and alcohol is not permitted".

    The Muslim Community Patrol & Services (MCPS) operates volunteer patrols in >>> Brooklyn, New York, using NYPD-like Ford Taurus vehicles with red and white >>> lights to deter crime around mosques and schools.

    I don't see this as any different than the plaintiff-appellant's
    position just taken in Braidwood Management, Inc. v. Becerra, that their
    free exercise of religion includes the right to regulate the behavior of
    others.

    What federal court decision protects me from crap like this?

    The photograph was in this article published February 3, 2019. Is this
    still going on? Even though the photograph doesn't show the red and blue flashers, the article says the vehicles are so equipped.


    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/03/nyregion/muslim-community-patrol-brooklyn.html

    There's nothing in the article about attempts to enforce an alcohol ban
    or any other ban according to Sharia Law. Where did you read about that?

    It was in the video of the news report that I linked to above.

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Thu Apr 24 22:36:41 2025
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    On Apr 23, 2025 at 5:12:40 PM PDT, Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com>:
    Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    If the city politicians and police weren't cool with this, they'd have a >>>>slam-duck impersonation case against every one of these guys,

    The vehicles do resemble squad cars but the initials are different. The >>>badge is different. It's meant to intimidate but short of making
    threats, what crime is committed?

    Impersonation doesn't require an exact match. Driving a marked squad
    car that is nearly identical to NYPD cars, wearing uniforms with badges,
    etc. all create a reasonable impression in the mind of the average citizen >that they are law enforcement officers. Add to that their behavior--
    giving people orders as if they have legal authority-- and you have a
    pretty airtight case of impersonation.

    Also, the emergency lights on the vehicles would be a separate criminal >offense in California. I assume New York has a similar law.

    Thank you

    How about a civil rights violation for religious discrimination against
    those who aren't practicing their faith?

    The painting wasn't sold as forgery if the artist copying the master's >>>work signed it himself,

    so the fact that they're able to do this without any pushback indicates >>>>the city is perfectly fine with Sharia patrols in New York. The frog is >>>>in the pot and the heat is slowly rising.

    Why doesn't any of this shit ever happen around me? I would *love*
    to have some Islamist fake cop try to enforce his religion on me. That >>>>would be a fun day.

    ----------------------------

    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1914886468197335040/vid/avc1/712x444/wdmNr8H_1tMSmooU.mp4?tag=16

    Muslim Community Patrols are driving through New York neighborhoods

    Dressed like police officers and driving cars identical to police
    squad cars, they are stopping to harass people for things like drinking >>>>alcohol, claiming "this is a Muslim area and alcohol is not permitted".

    The Muslim Community Patrol & Services (MCPS) operates volunteer >>>>patrols in Brooklyn, New York, using NYPD-like Ford Taurus vehicles >>>>with red and white lights to deter crime around mosques and schools.

    I don't see this as any different than the plaintiff-appellant's
    position just taken in Braidwood Management, Inc. v. Becerra, that their >>>free exercise of religion includes the right to regulate the behavior of >>>others.

    What federal court decision protects me from crap like this?

    The photograph was in this article published February 3, 2019. Is this >>still going on? Even though the photograph doesn't show the red and blue >>flashers, the article says the vehicles are so equipped.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/03/nyregion/muslim-community-patrol-brooklyn.html

    There's nothing in the article about attempts to enforce an alcohol ban
    or any other ban according to Sharia Law. Where did you read about that?

    It was in the video of the news report that I linked to above.

    It was a clip of a news report which appeared to be CNN but then ended abruptly. I was unable to find where it originated. I was writing a
    letter to the editor (that won't be accepted) on loss of liberty via
    third parties using the heckler's veto. The issue had free exercise of
    religion implications as well so I would have referenced this incident
    if I could have found enough details.

    Sigh. It took me rewriting it over several hours to get it down from
    several pages to a mere 350 words. Do you know how painful that is?

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