• [OT] Toronto pets - and toddlers - at risk from aggressive coyotes

    From Rhino@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 25 22:29:39 2025
    I was surprised to learn that aggressive coyotes have been seen - and
    caught on camera - trying to take away small dogs and even young children.

    https://toronto.citynews.ca/2025/04/25/uber-fare-dispute-customer-account-hacked/

    Residents are deeply frustrated by Toronto City Council's response to
    the problem, which seems to be trying to train the coyote's to be more
    afraid of humans, which Council claims is working. Residents disagree.
    Council is also consulting a trapper - I wonder where they found one; I
    thought that profession was limited to the Far North at this point - to
    see what he thinks should be done.

    Toronto has had problems with raccoons for many years and I remember
    seeing foxes and skunks near my office when I worked in Toronto but
    hadn't heard of a coyote issue.

    --
    Rhino

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Rhino on Sat Apr 26 03:09:08 2025
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    I was surprised to learn that aggressive coyotes have been seen - and
    caught on camera - trying to take away small dogs and even young children.

    https://toronto.citynews.ca/2025/04/25/uber-fare-dispute-customer-account-hacked/

    Residents are deeply frustrated by Toronto City Council's response to
    the problem, which seems to be trying to train the coyote's to be more
    afraid of humans, which Council claims is working. Residents disagree. >Council is also consulting a trapper - I wonder where they found one; I >thought that profession was limited to the Far North at this point - to
    see what he thinks should be done.

    Force the coyote to file and pay taxes. Then it will fear humans.

    Toronto has had problems with raccoons for many years and I remember
    seeing foxes and skunks near my office when I worked in Toronto but
    hadn't heard of a coyote issue.

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 26 18:31:37 2025
    On Apr 25, 2025 at 7:29:39 PM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    I was surprised to learn that aggressive coyotes have been seen - and
    caught on camera - trying to take away small dogs and even young children.


    https://toronto.citynews.ca/2025/04/25/uber-fare-dispute-customer-account-hacked/

    Residents are deeply frustrated by Toronto City Council's response to
    the problem, which seems to be trying to train the coyote's to be more
    afraid of humans, which Council claims is working. Residents disagree. Council is also consulting a trapper - I wonder where they found one; I thought that profession was limited to the Far North at this point - to
    see what he thinks should be done.

    Toronto has had problems with raccoons for many years and I remember
    seeing foxes and skunks near my office when I worked in Toronto but
    hadn't heard of a coyote issue.

    Coyotes are always a problem here. You see them out and about constantly. Sometimes you also see them setting up arcane devices from the Acme Company to try to catch your cat or dog.

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 26 15:07:54 2025
    On 2025-04-26 2:31 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Apr 25, 2025 at 7:29:39 PM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    I was surprised to learn that aggressive coyotes have been seen - and
    caught on camera - trying to take away small dogs and even young children. >>

    https://toronto.citynews.ca/2025/04/25/uber-fare-dispute-customer-account-hacked/

    Residents are deeply frustrated by Toronto City Council's response to
    the problem, which seems to be trying to train the coyote's to be more
    afraid of humans, which Council claims is working. Residents disagree.
    Council is also consulting a trapper - I wonder where they found one; I
    thought that profession was limited to the Far North at this point - to
    see what he thinks should be done.

    Toronto has had problems with raccoons for many years and I remember
    seeing foxes and skunks near my office when I worked in Toronto but
    hadn't heard of a coyote issue.

    Coyotes are always a problem here. You see them out and about constantly.r Sometimes you also see them setting up arcane devices from the Acme Company to
    try to catch your cat or dog.


    If we could carry firearms, I expect the coyotes would learn to move on
    fairly quickly. But of course that's not an option. Having the police
    respond to do a little 9mm animal control is probably unrealistic too;
    they're too busy guarding Islamists during their protests (or bringing
    them coffee and doughnuts).

    When I lived in London (Ontario), we had a significant surplus of deer. Originally, people had noticed how thin the deer in neighbouring
    provincial parks were and instituted feeding programs for them.
    Unsurprisingly, that led to a vast growth in the deer population and
    that led to the deer getting ever bolder in their attempts to find food
    in people's gardens or whatever, often damaging property in the process.
    Soon, everyone agreed there was a problem but every alternative found opponents. Rounding them up and relocating them was deemed too
    expensive. Shooting them aroused horrified reactions in everyone who'd
    seen Bambi, particularly since firearms were involved. Concerns about
    the noise of firearms were also significant. Bow hunters offered to do a
    cull but that wasn't good enough either. Some worried about traumatizing children.

    Maybe Toronto needs to export its coyotes to London to deal with the
    excess deer the natural way. Of course that will be deemed too cruel as
    well. I expect they'll settle on something that will make the problems considerably worse at great expense but where no one can get accused of
    cruelty to animals.

    --
    Rhino

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  • From shawn@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 26 17:00:25 2025
    On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 18:31:37 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
    wrote:

    On Apr 25, 2025 at 7:29:39 PM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> >wrote:

    I was surprised to learn that aggressive coyotes have been seen - and
    caught on camera - trying to take away small dogs and even young children. >>

    https://toronto.citynews.ca/2025/04/25/uber-fare-dispute-customer-account-hacked/

    Residents are deeply frustrated by Toronto City Council's response to
    the problem, which seems to be trying to train the coyote's to be more
    afraid of humans, which Council claims is working. Residents disagree.
    Council is also consulting a trapper - I wonder where they found one; I
    thought that profession was limited to the Far North at this point - to
    see what he thinks should be done.

    Toronto has had problems with raccoons for many years and I remember
    seeing foxes and skunks near my office when I worked in Toronto but
    hadn't heard of a coyote issue.

    Coyotes are always a problem here. You see them out and about constantly. >Sometimes you also see them setting up arcane devices from the Acme Company to >try to catch your cat or dog.


    Hmm, we had them around us growing up (a consequence of living out in
    the woods where our nearest neighbor was a mile away,) but they never
    bothered us even though we had dogs and cats. Though I doubt one would
    ever want to mess with our German Shepard/Great Dane cross. She was
    sweet as can be so long as everyone was well behaved.

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