• Sherlock and Daughter "The Challenge" "The Common Thread 4/16/2025 4/23

    From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 27 04:47:48 2025
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    It's not awful. David Thewlis is much better than the material. Alas,
    Blu Hunt is not.

    Need a ruling here: If you grew up in the suburbs, can you truly claim
    your native heritage? Her hair is gorgeous. She was 28 during production
    and looks much much younger.

    My complaint about the Amelia character is that she's barely
    investigating. She's largely following instinct, then encounters
    something by coincidence that advances the plot. She's a plot device,
    not a character. In fact, Sherlock said so in a line of dialogue.

    The writers are lazy.

    Nice to see Ivana Milicevic again. I miss her (slightly covered) nude
    scenes in Banshee. Her body was lithe and tight thanks to all the fight training she had.

    Did I miss an explanation for how the hell Clara met Charlie? Also, if
    her father went bust in a railroad scandal (it's two decades too late to
    have been Jay Gould and the Erie scandal, and if this is 1898, it's too
    late for the Panic of 1893 which sunk a lot of railroad stock), there's
    no fucking way he'd be ambassador as he'd be subject to foreign
    influence.

    I'm trying to wrap my brain around the idea of a chop shop for
    carriages, but can't. There's pretty much as much labor involved in
    chopping them up and re-assembling them as there would be in building
    new carriages.

    Why has Amelia failed to tell Sherlock of her two encounters with the
    bobbie on patrol? Obviously he tipped off the crooks. Hell, he's
    watching Sherlock's house.

    The size of the house bothers the hell out of me. It's a great house,
    and I guess we're supposed to think Belgravia except the house facades
    being used in Dublin are from a century earlier, 1760s. The whole thing
    is illusion. The real street is much narrower. She's crossing a 60 foot
    wide earthen street on tv, then in a separate shot, we see the facade of
    the houses, so I assume there's an outdoor set with the muddy street.

    Sherlock was comfortable (he certainly didn't overspend on lodging) but not wealthy, and could not possibly afford the lease on such a house. Sherlock never had servants. Since when do servants question their employer? And
    the kidnapped Mrs. Hudson is also a servant?

    I guess I'll stick with it; it's just 8 episodes.

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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Sun Apr 27 03:40:20 2025
    Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
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    It's not awful. David Thewlis is much better than the material. Alas,
    Blu Hunt is not.

    Need a ruling here: If you grew up in the suburbs, can you truly claim
    your native heritage? Her hair is gorgeous. She was 28 during production
    and looks much much younger.

    My complaint about the Amelia character is that she's barely
    investigating. She's largely following instinct, then encounters
    something by coincidence that advances the plot. She's a plot device,
    not a character. In fact, Sherlock said so in a line of dialogue.

    The writers are lazy.

    Nice to see Ivana Milicevic again. I miss her (slightly covered) nude
    scenes in Banshee. Her body was lithe and tight thanks to all the fight training she had.

    Did I miss an explanation for how the hell Clara met Charlie? Also, if
    her father went bust in a railroad scandal (it's two decades too late to
    have been Jay Gould and the Erie scandal, and if this is 1898, it's too
    late for the Panic of 1893 which sunk a lot of railroad stock), there's
    no fucking way he'd be ambassador as he'd be subject to foreign
    influence.

    I'm trying to wrap my brain around the idea of a chop shop for
    carriages, but can't. There's pretty much as much labor involved in
    chopping them up and re-assembling them as there would be in building
    new carriages.

    Why has Amelia failed to tell Sherlock of her two encounters with the
    bobbie on patrol? Obviously he tipped off the crooks. Hell, he's
    watching Sherlock's house.

    The size of the house bothers the hell out of me. It's a great house,
    and I guess we're supposed to think Belgravia except the house facades
    being used in Dublin are from a century earlier, 1760s. The whole thing
    is illusion. The real street is much narrower. She's crossing a 60 foot
    wide earthen street on tv, then in a separate shot, we see the facade of
    the houses, so I assume there's an outdoor set with the muddy street.

    Sherlock was comfortable (he certainly didn't overspend on lodging) but not wealthy, and could not possibly afford the lease on such a house. Sherlock never had servants. Since when do servants question their employer? And
    the kidnapped Mrs. Hudson is also a servant?

    I guess I'll stick with it; it's just 8 episodes.


    I can answer all your questions, but you wouldn’t listen to me anyway.

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Sun Apr 27 11:50:39 2025
    On 2025-04-27 12:47 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
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    It's not awful. David Thewlis is much better than the material. Alas,
    Blu Hunt is not.

    Need a ruling here: If you grew up in the suburbs, can you truly claim
    your native heritage? Her hair is gorgeous. She was 28 during production
    and looks much much younger.

    My complaint about the Amelia character is that she's barely
    investigating. She's largely following instinct, then encounters
    something by coincidence that advances the plot. She's a plot device,
    not a character. In fact, Sherlock said so in a line of dialogue.

    The writers are lazy.

    Nice to see Ivana Milicevic again. I miss her (slightly covered) nude
    scenes in Banshee. Her body was lithe and tight thanks to all the fight training she had.

    Did I miss an explanation for how the hell Clara met Charlie? Also, if
    her father went bust in a railroad scandal (it's two decades too late to
    have been Jay Gould and the Erie scandal, and if this is 1898, it's too
    late for the Panic of 1893 which sunk a lot of railroad stock), there's
    no fucking way he'd be ambassador as he'd be subject to foreign
    influence.

    I'm trying to wrap my brain around the idea of a chop shop for
    carriages, but can't. There's pretty much as much labor involved in
    chopping them up and re-assembling them as there would be in building
    new carriages.

    Why has Amelia failed to tell Sherlock of her two encounters with the
    bobbie on patrol? Obviously he tipped off the crooks. Hell, he's
    watching Sherlock's house.

    The size of the house bothers the hell out of me. It's a great house,
    and I guess we're supposed to think Belgravia except the house facades
    being used in Dublin are from a century earlier, 1760s. The whole thing
    is illusion. The real street is much narrower. She's crossing a 60 foot
    wide earthen street on tv, then in a separate shot, we see the facade of
    the houses, so I assume there's an outdoor set with the muddy street.

    Sherlock was comfortable (he certainly didn't overspend on lodging) but not wealthy, and could not possibly afford the lease on such a house.

    I wouldn't be so sure about that. I *know* I've read passages in novels
    about people from very humble backgrounds who received an inheritance
    that seems impossibly small to us - like five pounds - who were able to
    lease property in Belgravia as a result and still have money left over
    for food, servants and the like.

    We've had so much inflation in the intervening years that it's
    practically impossible to imagine 5 pounds going that far but apparently
    it did. (Or maybe the novels were not accurate on that detail.)

    I wish I could remember the novel(s) where I read that....

    Sherlock
    never had servants. Since when do servants question their employer? And
    the kidnapped Mrs. Hudson is also a servant?


    You have to remember that servants were dirt cheap in those days. I
    remember reading that censuses from around 1900 defined working class as
    having only two or fewer servants, with the middle class beginning at 3 servants. Of course almost everyone was agricultural in those days so
    the two servants would have been the hired man and his wife (if he were married).

    Karl Marx was notorious for mooching money off his friends, especially
    his co-author Friedrich Engels (the son of a wealthy factory owner),
    because he was constantly in debt yet even Marx had a couple of servants
    to help his wife and tend himself and his family.

    I guess I'll stick with it; it's just 8 episodes.


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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Rhino on Sun Apr 27 17:24:59 2025
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2025-04-27 12:47 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

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    . . .

    The size of the house bothers the hell out of me. It's a great house,
    and I guess we're supposed to think Belgravia except the house facades >>being used in Dublin are from a century earlier, 1760s. The whole thing
    is illusion. The real street is much narrower. She's crossing a 60 foot >>wide earthen street on tv, then in a separate shot, we see the facade of >>the houses, so I assume there's an outdoor set with the muddy street.

    Sherlock was comfortable (he certainly didn't overspend on lodging) but not >>wealthy, and could not possibly afford the lease on such a house.

    I wouldn't be so sure about that. I *know* I've read passages in novels
    about people from very humble backgrounds who received an inheritance
    that seems impossibly small to us - like five pounds - who were able to
    lease property in Belgravia as a result and still have money left over
    for food, servants and the like.

    Belgravia (according to that tv series) was a popular community among
    newly rich families. There were cheaper parts of London, but not the
    brand new areas.

    We've had so much inflation in the intervening years that it's
    practically impossible to imagine 5 pounds going that far but apparently
    it did. (Or maybe the novels were not accurate on that detail.)

    I wish I could remember the novel(s) where I read that....

    Mycroft was, what, in two short stories, none of the novels. He was
    rich. The only time I recall the father being wealthy (I recall no
    references to the family in the stories) is the Elementary tv series
    with Sherlock living in a house his father owned and the father paying
    Joan Watson's salary.

    Sherlock
    never had servants. Since when do servants question their employer? And
    the kidnapped Mrs. Hudson is also a servant?

    You have to remember that servants were dirt cheap in those days. I
    remember reading that censuses from around 1900 defined working class as >having only two or fewer servants, with the middle class beginning at 3 >servants. Of course almost everyone was agricultural in those days so
    the two servants would have been the hired man and his wife (if he were >married).

    Agreed. If I could accept that he was wealthy enough to lease the house,
    then I've already suspended disbelief that he can also afford that many servants.

    . . .

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