Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> writes:
[snip]
Police quickly ruled out terrorism. How?
a: he was "known to the police"
b: Canada isn't as facile or quick to label crimes
as "terrorist" compared to the US (which, to be sure,
often ignored/ignores that possibility when politically
inconvenient..)
Police quickly ruled out terrorism. How?
danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> wrote:
Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> writes:
[snip]
Police quickly ruled out terrorism. How?
a: he was "known to the police"
b: Canada isn't as facile or quick to label crimes
as "terrorist" compared to the US (which, to be sure,
often ignored/ignores that possibility when politically
inconvenient..)
I don't see how jumping to a conclusion without investigating is
different in one country or another. It was an ethnic festival, so the question needs to be asked, or he was targetting the politicial who had
just left.
On 2025-04-27 9:46 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> wrote:
Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> writes:
[snip]
Police quickly ruled out terrorism. How?
a: he was "known to the police"
b: Canada isn't as facile or quick to label crimes
as "terrorist" compared to the US (which, to be sure,
often ignored/ignores that possibility when politically
inconvenient..)
I don't see how jumping to a conclusion without investigating is
different in one country or another. It was an ethnic festival, so the question needs to be asked, or he was targetting the politicial who had just left.
The articles I read said the perpetrator was known to police due to
"mental health issues". Of course they left it at that - they always
leave things as vague as they can, ostensibly due to "privacy" - so we
are left to wonder how these mental health issues manifested themselves
in the past. Did he limit himself to unhinged rants? Or had he committed previous assaults?
His lawyer must be salivating at the police citing "mental health
issues": now they can argue that he's not criminally responsible, send
him away to a psychiatric institution for a few years, then declare him
cured and let him go, which would be a better outcome (for the suspect)
than having him in the slammer for 25 years. (Our Supreme Court has
ruled against giving people consecutive life terms - "life" here is
actually just 25 years - meaning you don't go to jail any longer for
killing 11 than you do for killing 1. And that's assuming he were
convicted of first degree murder. It's entirely common - but not
universal - that even 1st degree murderers only get charged as 2nd
degree killers in some cases.)
I have found very good coverage of this. The death toll in Vancouver
appears to be 11 but I've heard some higher numbers. I haven't heard how
many injured there are.
It was a Filipino festival. I heard that a political candidate had just visited.
Police quickly ruled out terrorism. How?
This is terrible. My condolensces to families and friends of the
victims.
https://apnews.com/article/canada-vancouver-filipino-festival-deaths-car-6635b400430a7015341d3ca0c4c1e7fb
Another incident, Chatham, Illinois. Four victims killed at an
after-school program when a vehicle was driven into the building. Three
were outside, one inside. The victims were ages 4 to 18. The driver was
taken to hospital; he was unhurt. Police haven't said it was intentional
yet, but it certainly appears to be.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2025/04/28/four-people-were-killed-when-vehicle-smashed-through-illinois-building-police-say/
Another incident, Chatham, Illinois. Four victims killed at an
after-school program when a vehicle was driven into the building. Three
were outside, one inside. The victims were ages 4 to 18. The driver was
taken to hospital; he was unhurt. Police haven't said it was intentional
yet, but it certainly appears to be.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2025/04/28/four-people-were-killed-when-vehicle-smashed-through-illinois-building-police-say/
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