• [OT] Wikipedia is going far left

    From Rhino@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 21 17:07:38 2025
    So says Leo Kearse, who offers both evidence and his usual humour in
    this video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Zu0PVaBj7Q [19 minutes]

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    Rhino

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Wed May 21 21:52:53 2025
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    May 21, 2025 at 2:07:38 PM PDT, Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com>:

    So says Leo Kearse, who offers both evidence and his usual humour in
    this video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Zu0PVaBj7Q [19 minutes]

    The most amazing one is Wikipedia's claim that there were no mass killings >under communism. I guess Stalin's purges and Mao's Great Leap Forward and Pol >Pot's killing fields were all just figments of our imagination.

    Communism: Where you always seem to be just one execution away from utopia.

    There were no mass killings. Each of the 10s of million of murder victims, either executed or starved, was personally selected.

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 21 21:47:22 2025
    On May 21, 2025 at 2:07:38 PM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    So says Leo Kearse, who offers both evidence and his usual humour in
    this video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Zu0PVaBj7Q [19 minutes]

    The most amazing one is Wikipedia's claim that there were no mass killings under communism. I guess Stalin's purges and Mao's Great Leap Forward and Pol Pot's killing fields were all just figments of our imagination.

    Communism: Where you always seem to be just one execution away from utopia.

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 21 17:52:03 2025
    On 2025-05-21 5:47 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On May 21, 2025 at 2:07:38 PM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    So says Leo Kearse, who offers both evidence and his usual humour in
    this video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Zu0PVaBj7Q [19 minutes]

    The most amazing one is Wikipedia's claim that there were no mass killings under communism. I guess Stalin's purges and Mao's Great Leap Forward and Pol Pot's killing fields were all just figments of our imagination.

    Communism: Where you always seem to be just one execution away from utopia.


    There are still way too many "activists" who love them some Marx and
    remain in denial over all the horrors perpetrated by their leftist gods. Unfortunately, they're all over academia and the media where they
    continue to infect the young with their delusions.

    --
    Rhino

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 21 22:12:20 2025
    On May 21, 2025 at 2:07:38 PM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    So says Leo Kearse, who offers both evidence and his usual humour in
    this video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Zu0PVaBj7Q [19 minutes]

    "Mohammed Jaul Abdul Ali Jihadi Death-to-the-West Toyota Hilux"

    That one had me rolling...

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 21 18:36:40 2025
    On 5/21/2025 5:47 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On May 21, 2025 at 2:07:38 PM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    So says Leo Kearse, who offers both evidence and his usual humour in
    this video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Zu0PVaBj7Q [19 minutes]

    The most amazing one is Wikipedia's claim that there were no mass killings under communism. I guess Stalin's purges and Mao's Great Leap Forward and Pol Pot's killing fields were all just figments of our imagination.

    Communism: Where you always seem to be just one execution away from utopia.

    Whether Wiki, AI, or the Washington Post, "facts" are always authored.

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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to nobody@nowhere.com on Wed May 21 21:08:52 2025
    In article <100lkho$32h5c$1@dont-email.me>, nobody@nowhere.com wrote:
    On 5/21/2025 5:47 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    So says Leo Kearse, who offers both evidence and his usual humour in
    this video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Zu0PVaBj7Q [19 minutes]

    The most amazing one is Wikipedia's claim that there were no mass killings >> under communism. I guess Stalin's purges and Mao's Great Leap Forward and
    Pol Pot's killing fields were all just figments of our imagination.

    Communism: Where you always seem to be just one execution away from
    utopia.

    Whether Wiki, AI, or the Washington Post, "facts" are always authored.

    Whataboutism noted. Get back to us when you have a real argument to make.

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    have to audit liberals & wire tap reporters' phones.

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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to Rhino on Wed May 21 21:07:08 2025
    Rhino wrote:

    So says Leo Kearse, who offers both evidence and his usual humour in
    this video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Zu0PVaBj7Q [19 minutes]

    "Going"? It's been that way for awhile.

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Wed May 21 22:13:48 2025
    On 2025-05-21 5:52 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    May 21, 2025 at 2:07:38 PM PDT, Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com>:

    So says Leo Kearse, who offers both evidence and his usual humour in
    this video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Zu0PVaBj7Q [19 minutes]

    The most amazing one is Wikipedia's claim that there were no mass killings >> under communism. I guess Stalin's purges and Mao's Great Leap Forward and Pol
    Pot's killing fields were all just figments of our imagination.

    Communism: Where you always seem to be just one execution away from utopia.

    There were no mass killings. Each of the 10s of million of murder victims, either executed or starved, was personally selected.

    There were definitely *some* cases of individually selected victims,
    like Stalin's enemies among the Old Bolsheviks (which was nearly all of
    the people who'd been in the Party before Lenin's coup), the senior
    officers of the Red Army, and quite a few members of Stalin's family who
    knew too much about him, like his in-laws and their extended families.
    However, the vast majority of deaths, whether by execution or
    starvation, came about via quotas. Stalin would send a telegram off to
    the secret police headquarters in Upper Buttfuckski and tell them to
    round up 20,000 or 30,000 people by the end of the month or else. The
    people arrested didn't need to be guilty of anything: a simple
    accusation by a neighbour who disliked them was enough. Then they were
    tortured to reveal more names of people who were "plotting against the
    state" and eventually the tortured people just gave names, any names, to
    make the torture stop. Court proceedings were an utter joke and never
    lasted more than a few minutes except in the case of a few show trials.
    Then the hapless prisoner was either shot or sent off to one of the many
    camps. Many prisoners starved, froze to death or were worked to death.
    The rest were condemned to living east of the Urals for the rest of
    their lives if they survived their sentences, which by the late 1940s
    was almost always 25 years.

    It has been said that not a single family in the Soviet Union was
    untouched by the Great Purge.



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    Rhino

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to moviePig on Wed May 21 22:16:03 2025
    On 2025-05-21 6:36 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 5/21/2025 5:47 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On May 21, 2025 at 2:07:38 PM PDT, "Rhino"
    <no_offline_contact@example.com>
    wrote:

    So says Leo Kearse, who offers both evidence and his usual humour in
    this video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Zu0PVaBj7Q [19 minutes]

    The most amazing one is Wikipedia's claim that there were no mass
    killings
    under communism. I guess Stalin's purges and Mao's Great Leap Forward
    and Pol
    Pot's killing fields were all just figments of our imagination.

    Communism: Where you always seem to be just one execution away from
    utopia.

    Whether Wiki, AI, or the Washington Post, "facts" are always authored.


    You have a tremendous talent for saying the blatantly obvious as if you
    were especially wise and insightful.

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    Rhino

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to Rhino on Wed May 21 23:06:47 2025
    On 5/21/2025 10:16 PM, Rhino wrote:
    On 2025-05-21 6:36 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 5/21/2025 5:47 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On May 21, 2025 at 2:07:38 PM PDT, "Rhino"
    <no_offline_contact@example.com>
    wrote:

    So says Leo Kearse, who offers both evidence and his usual humour in
    this video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Zu0PVaBj7Q [19 minutes]

    The most amazing one is Wikipedia's claim that there were no mass
    killings
    under communism. I guess Stalin's purges and Mao's Great Leap Forward
    and Pol
    Pot's killing fields were all just figments of our imagination.

    Communism: Where you always seem to be just one execution away from
    utopia.

    Whether Wiki, AI, or the Washington Post, "facts" are always authored.


    You have a tremendous talent for saying the blatantly obvious as if you
    were especially wise and insightful.

    How odd, then, that you celebrate a 19--min. exposé of just Wikipedia...

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to moviePig on Thu May 22 18:33:55 2025
    On 2025-05-21 22:36:40 +0000, moviePig said:
    On 5/21/2025 5:47 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On May 21, 2025 at 2:07:38 PM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> >> wrote:

    So says Leo Kearse, who offers both evidence and his usual humour in
    this video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Zu0PVaBj7Q [19 minutes]

    The most amazing one is Wikipedia's claim that there were no mass killings >> under communism. I guess Stalin's purges and Mao's Great Leap Forward
    and Pol Pot's killing fields were all just figments of our imagination.

    Communism: Where you always seem to be just one execution away from utopia.

    Whether Wiki, AI, or the Washington Post, "facts" are always authored.

    The problem is that:

    - Wikipedia can easily be edited by anyone, with zero actual
    fact checking by anyone in authority. (Same with IMDB.)

    - AI is utterly useless crap that makes LOTS and LOTS of mistakes.

    Neither can ever be trusted as a reliable source of useful information.

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to Your Name on Thu May 22 11:18:03 2025
    On 5/22/2025 2:33 AM, Your Name wrote:
    On 2025-05-21 22:36:40 +0000, moviePig said:
    On 5/21/2025 5:47 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On May 21, 2025 at 2:07:38 PM PDT, "Rhino"
    <no_offline_contact@example.com>
    wrote:

    So says Leo Kearse, who offers both evidence and his usual humour in
    this video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Zu0PVaBj7Q [19 minutes]

    The most amazing one is Wikipedia's claim that there were no mass
    killings
    under communism. I guess Stalin's purges and Mao's Great Leap Forward
    and Pol Pot's killing fields were all just figments of our imagination.

    Communism: Where you always seem to be just one execution away from
    utopia.

    Whether Wiki, AI, or the Washington Post, "facts" are always authored.

    The problem is that:

     - Wikipedia can easily be edited by anyone, with zero actual
       fact checking by anyone in authority. (Same with IMDB.)

     - AI is utterly useless crap that makes LOTS and LOTS of mistakes.

    Neither can ever be trusted as a reliable source of useful information.

    But I'm hard pressed to think of *any* absolutely reliable source of information. And, of the usually cited purveyors, Wikipedia stands out
    as making no bones about its open-season provenance. (Personally, I've
    found it to be a worthy starting point, especially for obscure topics.)

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