• Prior restraint! Don't report on governor's wife (and future candidate)

    From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 9 20:18:16 2025
    In Florida, the governor's wife is subject to a criminal investigation
    related to the diversion of public monies into a political campaign
    against a referendum. Now a newspaper is investigating whether her
    foundation is providing monies to repair hurricane-damaged homes and
    also on problems with foster families working with the foundation. So
    the state sent a cease and desist letter to the newspaper; the story has
    not yet been published.

    The rest of the Republican party wants little to do with the growing
    scandals.

    https://apnews.com/article/orlando-sentinel-florida-desantis-welfare-9636452a8bf8eb230489513db64d86f7

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Mon Jun 9 20:28:14 2025
    On Jun 9, 2025 at 1:18:16 PM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    In Florida, the governor's wife is subject to a criminal investigation related to the diversion of public monies into a political campaign
    against a referendum. Now a newspaper is investigating whether her
    foundation is providing monies to repair hurricane-damaged homes and
    also on problems with foster families working with the foundation. So
    the state sent a cease and desist letter to the newspaper; the story has
    not yet been published.

    The rest of the Republican party wants little to do with the growing scandals.


    https://apnews.com/article/orlando-sentinel-florida-desantis-welfare-9636452a8bf8eb230489513db64d86f7

    Well, this isn't exactly true. The AP story claims the Sentinel was told to stop reporting on the governor's wife and her foundation. What the letter actually did was to tell the Sentinel to stop intimidating foster families
    into making disparaging remarks about the foundation:

    "The letter claimed that the newspaper’s Tallahassee reporter had
    used threats to coerce foster families into making negative statements
    about the Hope Florida Foundation when he contacted them about the
    welfare nonprofit behind the signature initiative of Casey DeSantis,
    Florida’s first lady.

    Whether the Sentinel's reporters did what the Dept. of Children and Families accused them of doing is yet to be established, but regardless, the government did NOT order them to stop reporting the story. It ordered them to stop trying to illegally coerce people into making false statements. There is no 1st Amendment violation here.

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Mon Jun 9 20:39:50 2025
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    On Jun 9, 2025 at 1:18:16 PM PDT, Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    In Florida, the governor's wife is subject to a criminal investigation >>related to the diversion of public monies into a political campaign
    against a referendum. Now a newspaper is investigating whether her >>foundation is providing monies to repair hurricane-damaged homes and
    also on problems with foster families working with the foundation. So
    the state sent a cease and desist letter to the newspaper; the story has >>not yet been published.

    The rest of the Republican party wants little to do with the growing >>scandals.

    https://apnews.com/article/orlando-sentinel-florida-desantis-welfare-9636452a8bf8eb230489513db64d86f7

    Well, this isn't exactly true. The AP story claims the Sentinel was told to >stop reporting on the governor's wife and her foundation. What the letter >actually did was to tell the Sentinel to stop intimidating foster families >into making disparaging remarks about the foundation:

    "The letter claimed that the newspaper's Tallahassee reporter had
    used threats to coerce foster families into making negative
    statements about the Hope Florida Foundation when he contacted
    them about the welfare nonprofit behind the signature initiative
    of Casey DeSantis, Florida's first lady.

    Whether the Sentinel's reporters did what the Dept. of Children and
    Families accused them of doing is yet to be established, but regardless,
    the government did NOT order them to stop reporting the story. It
    ordered them to stop trying to illegally coerce people into making false >statements. There is no 1st Amendment violation here.

    The state told the newspaper to stop reporting the story in the way they
    were reporting the story by contacting witnesses. I'm trying to figure
    out how a reporter contacting a witness for information is an illegal
    threat. Since the child welfare bureau is not a law enforcement agency,
    then a police complaint should have been filed if the reporter truly had
    done something illegal.

    In any event, if the governor weren't pissed off, then the paper is
    doing it wrong.

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Mon Jun 9 20:59:29 2025
    On Jun 9, 2025 at 1:39:50 PM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    On Jun 9, 2025 at 1:18:16 PM PDT, Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    In Florida, the governor's wife is subject to a criminal investigation
    related to the diversion of public monies into a political campaign
    against a referendum. Now a newspaper is investigating whether her
    foundation is providing monies to repair hurricane-damaged homes and
    also on problems with foster families working with the foundation. So
    the state sent a cease and desist letter to the newspaper; the story has >>> not yet been published.

    The rest of the Republican party wants little to do with the growing
    scandals.


    https://apnews.com/article/orlando-sentinel-florida-desantis-welfare-9636452a8bf8eb230489513db64d86f7

    Well, this isn't exactly true. The AP story claims the Sentinel was told to >> stop reporting on the governor's wife and her foundation. What the letter
    actually did was to tell the Sentinel to stop intimidating foster families >> into making disparaging remarks about the foundation:

    "The letter claimed that the newspaper's Tallahassee reporter had
    used threats to coerce foster families into making negative
    statements about the Hope Florida Foundation when he contacted
    them about the welfare nonprofit behind the signature initiative
    of Casey DeSantis, Florida's first lady.

    Whether the Sentinel's reporters did what the Dept. of Children and
    Families accused them of doing is yet to be established, but regardless,
    the government did NOT order them to stop reporting the story. It
    ordered them to stop trying to illegally coerce people into making false
    statements. There is no 1st Amendment violation here.

    The state told the newspaper to stop reporting the story in the way they
    were reporting the story by contacting witnesses. I'm trying to figure
    out how a reporter contacting a witness for information is an illegal
    threat.

    Contacting them is not a threat. The allegation is they were making threats. Telling them to stop doing that is not a 1A violation. If they weren't making threats, then the letter is irrelevant. If they were making threats, then the letter is a legitimate legal demand.

    Since the child welfare bureau is not a law enforcement agency,
    then a police complaint should have been filed if the reporter truly had
    done something illegal.

    In any event, if the governor weren't pissed off, then the paper is
    doing it wrong.

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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to ahk@chinet.com on Tue Jun 10 04:30:43 2025
    In article <1027fi8$o3hc$1@dont-email.me>, ahk@chinet.com wrote:

    In Florida, the governor's wife is subject to a criminal investigation >related to the diversion of public monies into a political campaign
    against a referendum. Now a newspaper is investigating whether her
    foundation is providing monies to repair hurricane-damaged homes and
    also on problems with foster families working with the foundation. So
    the state sent a cease and desist letter to the newspaper; the story has
    not yet been published.

    The rest of the Republican party wants little to do with the growing >scandals.

    https://apnews.com/article/orlando-sentinel-florida-desantis-welfare-9636452a8bf8eb230489513db64d86f7

    #FakeNews

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