• The Trevails of Mark Lamont Hill and Alex Padilla

    From BTR1701@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 14 00:52:41 2025
    Here's a video of professor and media talking head Mark Lamont Hill been attacked during a recent speaking event:


    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1933098818008186881/vid/avc1/888x490/llOCxr0go1WDx59I.mp4?tag=21

    It's illustrative as to why the Democrats' clutching of their pearls over Kristi Noem's security cuffing Senator Padilla is performative nonsense.

    The timing of this video is perfect, but you can find a hundred other examples of security breaches against public speakers that teach the same lessons. The fact this incident is likely unhinged Democrat on Democrat violence just adds some humor.

    When someone (we'll call them the VIP, even though that's probably a stretch for Professor Hill here) is giving a speech or doing a press conference, they are in a fixed, known location. If a violent criminal actor wants to do the
    VIP harm, this is a his best opportunity to do so. That's why there's been so many assassinations at events like this over the decades.

    So VIPs who might have violent criminal actors out there who wish them harm will often have security around them during these events. The bigger the VIP, the tighter the security they're going to have. This has got fuck-all to do with fascism and everything to do with the fact that nobody likes getting
    shot.

    Democrats are acting like Noem's security should have just let Senator
    Fuckface shout and blunder his way up to their protectee. Except that isn't
    how any of this works in real life.

    If the land whale in the Lamont Hill attack had a gun, Hill would likely be dead. Instead Hill just got some spicy treats in his face. But there's no way of knowing what she's going to hit him with until the weapon comes out. (We've seen political assassinations like this with knives and even samurai swords.)

    Sure, you can shoot someone from further away, but that takes a bit more
    skill. For violent criminal actors who are just whackadoodles and want to cap
    a VIP for some reason, not being professional assassins, they tend to want to close as much distance as possible before striking to ensure success. So when somebody acts suspicious and tries to get close to the VIP, their security is going to react.

    Same goes for Senator Fuckface. If you are protecting a VIP and somebody is forcing their way into I-Absolutely-Want-to-be-Certain-I-Can-Merc-This-Target-on-the-First-Try range, you aren't going to assume they're doing so because they're sane and rational. You're going to assume they're up to no good and act accordingly.

    In this case it was verbal challenges, which were ignored, followed by the laying on of hands, which were resisted. That was when Senator Fuckface
    started screaming how he was a senator, and the FBI agents were like, "Sure
    you are, buddy, and I'm the Secretary of Agriculture. Let's take this
    outside."

    Notice how the FBI quickly surrounded him? That's not fascism. That's their training, because they're positioning themselves between him and their protectee and to control his limbs should he try to produce a gun.

    (What I'm wondering is why the FBI was protecting Noem. The DHS Secretary always had a Secret Service detail during my tenure. She's the head of the department under which the USSS operates. The FBI is under DOJ and has nothing to do with Homeland, so why they would be protecting her is a mystery.)

    Oh, and that nonsense from some of the other members of Congress that those federal agents should have totally known he was a senator and thus given him a pass? Well, aside from showing how appallingly narcissistic and self-involved they all are, I hate to shatter their massive egos but other than Capitol Police, no cop has ever memorized the faces of all of the 538 assholes who
    work on Capitol Hill.

    Regardless, Senator Fuckface was still acting in a very suspicious manner, so even if one of the many feds there did know who he was, oh well. It's not like politicians have never done anything wacky and violent before in American history. (Except for the dozens of times they did, but we all know Democrats aren't big on history.)

    All the elected leftists who are throwing a tantrum about the manhandling of Senator Fuckface also have security who would have reacted in the exact same manner (or worse) toward the same kind of potential threat. If you acted exactly like Senator Fuckface or the Pepper Spray Whale during a Gavin Newsom press conference, the California Highway Patrol is going to beat your ass if not shoot you.

    And all the Democrats who are throwing their big performative tantrum know all of this. Hell, Senator Fuckface understands this. He knew exactly what would happen, because it was one big stunt. He also deliberately did not wear his Congressional security pin which would've let the protection details know who he is. He wanted to be tackled; he wants the spectacle.

    We live in a time where Democrats think it's totally cool to shoot congressmen at baseball games, not to mention two presidential assassination attempts in the last year. Leftists are murdering CEOs in cold blood (and getting cheered for it by their compatriots), intimidating and attempting to murder SCOTUS justices in their homes, and just generally acting like psychotic assholes all the time... and you think the protective detail around a controversial cabinet secretary are going to be relaxed about some guy who shows up in the middle of a press conference and lunges toward the stage?

    But this isn't even a partisan issue. If you did this to a movie star or a famous rapper while they're at some promotional event, you'd get tuned up by their security, too.

    But for all the idiots who think Senator Fuckface only got cuffed because of fascism, you should go to Nancy Pelosi's next press conference, act like Alex Padilla, and see how that shakes out for you.

    In the meantime, Professor Hill, people will tell you to wash your eyes with milk, but I recommend Dawn Dish Soap.

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 7 18:54:18 2025
    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 00:52:41 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
    wrote:

    Sure, you can shoot someone from further away, but that takes a bit more >skill. For violent criminal actors who are just whackadoodles and want to cap >a VIP for some reason, not being professional assassins, they tend to want to >close as much distance as possible before striking to ensure success. So when >somebody acts suspicious and tries to get close to the VIP, their security is >going to react.

    Nobody would today know the name "Lee Harvey Oswald" on 22 Nov 1963
    had he missed....I think everyone here knows that.

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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to The Horny Goat on Mon Jul 7 19:30:12 2025
    The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 00:52:41 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
    wrote:

    Sure, you can shoot someone from further away, but that takes a bit more
    skill. For violent criminal actors who are just whackadoodles and want to cap
    a VIP for some reason, not being professional assassins, they tend to want to
    close as much distance as possible before striking to ensure success. So when
    somebody acts suspicious and tries to get close to the VIP, their security is
    going to react.

    Nobody would today know the name "Lee Harvey Oswald" on 22 Nov 1963
    had he missed....I think everyone here knows that.

    We might (we know Squeaky Frome) but we probably wouldn’t know Jack Ruby.

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to The Horny Goat on Tue Jul 8 03:45:54 2025
    On Jul 7, 2025 at 6:54:18 PM PDT, "The Horny Goat" <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:

    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 00:52:41 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
    wrote:

    Sure, you can shoot someone from further away, but that takes a bit more
    skill. For violent criminal actors who are just whackadoodles and want to cap
    a VIP for some reason, not being professional assassins, they tend to want to
    close as much distance as possible before striking to ensure success. So
    when
    somebody acts suspicious and tries to get close to the VIP, their security is
    going to react.

    Nobody would today know the name "Lee Harvey Oswald" on 22 Nov 1963
    had he missed....I think everyone here knows that.

    He did miss. It was anim8r on the grassy knoll who ensured mission success.

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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Tue Jul 8 07:50:12 2025
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    On Jul 7, 2025 at 6:54:18 PM PDT, "The Horny Goat" <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:

    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 00:52:41 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
    wrote:

    Sure, you can shoot someone from further away, but that takes a bit more >>> skill. For violent criminal actors who are just whackadoodles and want to cap
    a VIP for some reason, not being professional assassins, they tend to want to
    close as much distance as possible before striking to ensure success. So >>> when
    somebody acts suspicious and tries to get close to the VIP, their security is
    going to react.

    Nobody would today know the name "Lee Harvey Oswald" on 22 Nov 1963
    had he missed....I think everyone here knows that.

    He did miss. It was anim8r on the grassy knoll who ensured mission success.


    Hey, last week on one of these antique to tell the truth episodes, they had
    the guy who built the car JFK was in! It was supposed to have a bubble top
    and it had been removed for the trip in Dallas. After the government gave
    it back to him, he had the bubble top permanently welded on.

    Mostly, I was amazed that they gave the car back to him at all.



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  • From danny burstein@21:1/5 to anim8rfsk@cox.net on Tue Jul 8 16:02:58 2025
    In <1477157425.773678806.805276.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com> anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> writes:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    On Jul 7, 2025 at 6:54:18 PM PDT, "The Horny Goat" <lcraver@home.ca> wrote: >>
    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 00:52:41 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
    wrote:
    [snip]
    Nobody would today know the name "Lee Harvey Oswald" on 22 Nov 1963
    had he missed....I think everyone here knows that.

    Hey, last week on one of these antique to tell the truth episodes, they had >the guy who built the car JFK was in! It was supposed to have a bubble top >and it had been removed for the trip in Dallas. After the government gave
    it back to him, he had the bubble top permanently welded on.

    Mostly, I was amazed that they gave the car back to him at all.

    Roger Stone (yes, the protege of The Man Who Killed Lionel Trains),
    claims, per a Twitter post that seems to reference one of his books,
    that it was LBJ who insisted that the bubble be removed.

    ahhhhh, likely "The Man Who Killed Kennedy; The Case Against LBJ".

    (No, don't have a copy)


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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 15 14:05:46 2025
    On Tue, 8 Jul 2025 03:45:54 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
    wrote:

    Nobody would today know the name "Lee Harvey Oswald" on 22 Nov 1963
    had he missed....I think everyone here knows that.

    He did miss. It was anim8r on the grassy knoll who ensured mission success.

    Ha ha - anim8r probably would have been roughly 3 years old so would
    be a very junior assassin.

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 15 14:07:44 2025
    On Mon, 7 Jul 2025 19:30:12 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
    wrote:

    The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 00:52:41 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
    wrote:

    Sure, you can shoot someone from further away, but that takes a bit more >>> skill. For violent criminal actors who are just whackadoodles and want to cap
    a VIP for some reason, not being professional assassins, they tend to want to
    close as much distance as possible before striking to ensure success. So when
    somebody acts suspicious and tries to get close to the VIP, their security is
    going to react.

    Nobody would today know the name "Lee Harvey Oswald" on 22 Nov 1963
    had he missed....I think everyone here knows that.

    We might (we know Squeaky Frome) but we probably wouldn’t know Jack Ruby.

    I certainly know both those names but was all of 8 years old when Jack
    Ruby made his "claim to fame".

    I definitely remember my grade 2 teacher (remember I'm a Canadian)
    crying in the hallway outside the classroom the afternoon of
    22/11/1963.

    (She was in my store about 4 years ago and said "I taught you in grade
    2 - bet you don't remember my name?" I kinda impressed her by saying
    "Miss Brunnell! Or should that be Mrs McGladdery?" (she had married
    the summer between my grades 1 and 2)

    She said she taught for 6 or 7 more years until she had her
    children... but she WAS impressed I remembered both names.

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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to The Horny Goat on Tue Jul 15 15:53:19 2025
    The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Jul 2025 19:30:12 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
    wrote:

    The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 00:52:41 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
    wrote:

    Sure, you can shoot someone from further away, but that takes a bit more >>>> skill. For violent criminal actors who are just whackadoodles and want to cap
    a VIP for some reason, not being professional assassins, they tend to want to
    close as much distance as possible before striking to ensure success. So when
    somebody acts suspicious and tries to get close to the VIP, their security is
    going to react.

    Nobody would today know the name "Lee Harvey Oswald" on 22 Nov 1963
    had he missed....I think everyone here knows that.

    We might (we know Squeaky Frome) but we probably wouldn’t know Jack Ruby.

    I certainly know both those names but was all of 8 years old when Jack
    Ruby made his "claim to fame".

    I definitely remember my grade 2 teacher (remember I'm a Canadian)
    crying in the hallway outside the classroom the afternoon of
    22/11/1963.

    Me too



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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Fri Jul 18 04:30:48 2025
    In article <102ih4o$3p8ve$1@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:

    Here's a video of professor and media talking head Mark Lamont Hill been >attacked during a recent speaking event:


    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1933098818008186881/vid/avc1/888x490/llOCxr0go1WDx59I.mp4

    It's illustrative as to why the Democrats' clutching of their pearls over >Kristi Noem's security cuffing Senator Padilla is performative nonsense.

    The timing of this video is perfect, but you can find a hundred other examples >of security breaches against public speakers that teach the same lessons. The >fact this incident is likely unhinged Democrat on Democrat violence just adds >some humor.

    When someone (we'll call them the VIP, even though that's probably a stretch >for Professor Hill here) is giving a speech or doing a press conference, they >are in a fixed, known location. If a violent criminal actor wants to do the >VIP harm, this is a his best opportunity to do so. That's why there's been so >many assassinations at events like this over the decades.

    So VIPs who might have violent criminal actors out there who wish them harm >will often have security around them during these events. The bigger the VIP, >the tighter the security they're going to have. This has got fuck-all to do >with fascism and everything to do with the fact that nobody likes getting >shot.

    Democrats are acting like Noem's security should have just let Senator >Fuckface shout and blunder his way up to their protectee. Except that isn't >how any of this works in real life.

    If the land whale in the Lamont Hill attack had a gun, Hill would likely be >dead. Instead Hill just got some spicy treats in his face. But there's no way >of knowing what she's going to hit him with until the weapon comes out. (We've >seen political assassinations like this with knives and even samurai swords.)

    Sure, you can shoot someone from further away, but that takes a bit more >skill. For violent criminal actors who are just whackadoodles and want to cap >a VIP for some reason, not being professional assassins, they tend to want to >close as much distance as possible before striking to ensure success. So when >somebody acts suspicious and tries to get close to the VIP, their security is >going to react.

    Same goes for Senator Fuckface. If you are protecting a VIP and somebody is >forcing their way into >I-Absolutely-Want-to-be-Certain-I-Can-Merc-This-Target-on-the-First-Try range, >you aren't going to assume they're doing so because they're sane and rational. >You're going to assume they're up to no good and act accordingly.

    In this case it was verbal challenges, which were ignored, followed by the >laying on of hands, which were resisted. That was when Senator Fuckface >started screaming how he was a senator, and the FBI agents were like, "Sure >you are, buddy, and I'm the Secretary of Agriculture. Let's take this >outside."

    Notice how the FBI quickly surrounded him? That's not fascism. That's their >training, because they're positioning themselves between him and their >protectee and to control his limbs should he try to produce a gun.

    (What I'm wondering is why the FBI was protecting Noem. The DHS Secretary >always had a Secret Service detail during my tenure. She's the head of the >department under which the USSS operates. The FBI is under DOJ and has nothing >to do with Homeland, so why they would be protecting her is a mystery.)

    Oh, and that nonsense from some of the other members of Congress that those >federal agents should have totally known he was a senator and thus given him a >pass? Well, aside from showing how appallingly narcissistic and self-involved >they all are, I hate to shatter their massive egos but other than Capitol >Police, no cop has ever memorized the faces of all of the 538 assholes who >work on Capitol Hill.

    Regardless, Senator Fuckface was still acting in a very suspicious manner, so >even if one of the many feds there did know who he was, oh well. It's not like >politicians have never done anything wacky and violent before in American >history. (Except for the dozens of times they did, but we all know Democrats >aren't big on history.)

    Like the time a Dem nearly beat a Republican to death with his cane?

    All the elected leftists who are throwing a tantrum about the manhandling of >Senator Fuckface also have security who would have reacted in the exact same >manner (or worse) toward the same kind of potential threat. If you acted >exactly like Senator Fuckface or the Pepper Spray Whale during a Gavin Newsom >press conference, the California Highway Patrol is going to beat your ass if >not shoot you.

    And all the Democrats who are throwing their big performative tantrum know all >of this. Hell, Senator Fuckface understands this. He knew exactly what would >happen, because it was one big stunt. He also deliberately did not wear his >Congressional security pin which would've let the protection details know who >he is. He wanted to be tackled; he wants the spectacle.

    They're doing it to "go viral" and for "`likes` and `clicks`".

    Ditto for the black chick from Texas who pretends to be ghetto.

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