• That's not funny!

    From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 23 20:15:36 2025
    Student detained by school authorities for repeating Roald Dahl joke
    (it's a silly pun), accused of racism. It's from Charlie and the Glass Elevator. The book is in the school library.

    The boy was detained for several hours.

    Father asks how a student is supposed to know a joke is disapproved if
    the student is quoting from school-owned materials.

    Do I need to say it happened in England? The school was in Kent.
    However, I could see it happening here in America.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQCKS0G7RcY

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Mon Jun 23 17:31:10 2025
    On 6/23/2025 4:15 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Student detained by school authorities for repeating Roald Dahl joke
    (it's a silly pun), accused of racism. It's from Charlie and the Glass Elevator. The book is in the school library.

    The boy was detained for several hours.

    Father asks how a student is supposed to know a joke is disapproved if
    the student is quoting from school-owned materials.

    Do I need to say it happened in England? The school was in Kent.
    However, I could see it happening here in America.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQCKS0G7RcY

    The joke's presence in the school library is a wrongheaded defense,
    likely to accomplish only a festering swarm of book-burning nannies.
    E.g., say goodbye to 'The Nigger Of the Narcissus'...

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Mon Jun 23 21:38:33 2025
    On 2025-06-23 4:15 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Student detained by school authorities for repeating Roald Dahl joke
    (it's a silly pun), accused of racism. It's from Charlie and the Glass Elevator. The book is in the school library.

    The boy was detained for several hours.

    Father asks how a student is supposed to know a joke is disapproved if
    the student is quoting from school-owned materials.

    Do I need to say it happened in England? The school was in Kent.
    However, I could see it happening here in America.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQCKS0G7RcY

    Thanks for sharing this. I particularly liked seeing the interviewer,
    Jacob Rees-Mogg, in action. He's a former parliamentarian (defeated in
    the last election) who has always struck me as one of the smartest,
    wittiest, most articulate politicians I've ever seen. (We didn't see a
    lot of the witty side in this video.) I'm looking forward to him
    returning to parliament next time around in a senior role.

    --
    Rhino

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 2 16:14:42 2025
    Turkey's moviePig law is being enforced against staff members of a
    satirical magazine for a humorous cartoon depicting Muhammad. Four were arrested.

    The magazine says the illustration was of some guy named Muhammad, not
    the religious icon, and was about suffering of Muslims during armed
    conflict. I'm missing how that's not a message of peace.

    Arrest warrants were issued for two other editors, currently abroad.

    The pro-government Yeni Safak newspaper said the cartoon showed
    "two figures alleged to be Prophet Muhammad and Prophet Moses --
    with wings and halos -- shaking hands in the sky, while a war
    scene unfolds below with bombs raining down." The independent
    Birgun newspaper said the winged figures hovering in the sky
    were interpreted by some as Prophets Muhammad and Moses.

    . . .

    President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has called the cartoon a "clear
    provocation disguised as humor" and vowed that "those who insult
    the Prophet and other messengers will be held accountable before
    the law."

    https://apnews.com/article/turkey-cartoonists-arrested-prophet-bf4495ab66bb5fc1f0eb9e036c818551

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Wed Jul 2 12:50:46 2025
    On 7/2/2025 12:14 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Turkey's moviePig law is being enforced against staff members of a
    satirical magazine for a humorous cartoon depicting Muhammad. Four were arrested.

    The magazine says the illustration was of some guy named Muhammad, not
    the religious icon, and was about suffering of Muslims during armed
    conflict. I'm missing how that's not a message of peace.

    Arrest warrants were issued for two other editors, currently abroad.

    The pro-government Yeni Safak newspaper said the cartoon showed
    "two figures alleged to be Prophet Muhammad and Prophet Moses --
    with wings and halos -- shaking hands in the sky, while a war
    scene unfolds below with bombs raining down." The independent
    Birgun newspaper said the winged figures hovering in the sky
    were interpreted by some as Prophets Muhammad and Moses.

    . . .

    President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has called the cartoon a "clear
    provocation disguised as humor" and vowed that "those who insult
    the Prophet and other messengers will be held accountable before
    the law."

    https://apnews.com/article/turkey-cartoonists-arrested-prophet-bf4495ab66bb5fc1f0eb9e036c818551

    moviePig hopes that Adam's grasp of his own free-speech principles, if
    any, is greater than his grasp of moviePig's...

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Wed Jul 2 17:41:20 2025
    On Jul 2, 2025 at 9:14:42 AM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    Turkey's moviePig law is being enforced against staff members of a
    satirical magazine for a humorous cartoon depicting Muhammad. Four were arrested.

    The magazine says the illustration was of some guy named Muhammad, not
    the religious icon, and was about suffering of Muslims during armed
    conflict. I'm missing how that's not a message of peace.

    Arrest warrants were issued for two other editors, currently abroad.

    The pro-government Yeni Safak newspaper said the cartoon showed
    "two figures alleged to be Prophet Muhammad and Prophet Moses --
    with wings and halos -- shaking hands in the sky, while a war
    scene unfolds below with bombs raining down." The independent
    Birgun newspaper said the winged figures hovering in the sky
    were interpreted by some as Prophets Muhammad and Moses.

    . . .

    President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has called the cartoon a "clear
    provocation disguised as humor" and vowed that "those who insult
    the Prophet and other messengers will be held accountable before
    the law."


    https://ibb.co/xqckTq1m

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 2 15:12:29 2025
    On 7/2/2025 1:41 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jul 2, 2025 at 9:14:42 AM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    Turkey's moviePig law is being enforced against staff members of a
    satirical magazine for a humorous cartoon depicting Muhammad. Four were
    arrested.

    The magazine says the illustration was of some guy named Muhammad, not
    the religious icon, and was about suffering of Muslims during armed
    conflict. I'm missing how that's not a message of peace.

    Arrest warrants were issued for two other editors, currently abroad.

    The pro-government Yeni Safak newspaper said the cartoon showed
    "two figures alleged to be Prophet Muhammad and Prophet Moses --
    with wings and halos -- shaking hands in the sky, while a war
    scene unfolds below with bombs raining down." The independent
    Birgun newspaper said the winged figures hovering in the sky
    were interpreted by some as Prophets Muhammad and Moses.

    . . .

    President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has called the cartoon a "clear
    provocation disguised as humor" and vowed that "those who insult
    the Prophet and other messengers will be held accountable before
    the law."

    https://ibb.co/xqckTq1m

    Since some effort presumably went into that, I'd like to understand it:

    r.a.tv appears to be shushing me so that it can enjoy what things?

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to moviePig on Wed Jul 2 23:01:45 2025
    On 7/2/2025 3:12 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 7/2/2025 1:41 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jul 2, 2025 at 9:14:42 AM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com>
    wrote:

    Turkey's moviePig law is being enforced against staff members of a
    satirical magazine for a humorous cartoon depicting Muhammad. Four were
    arrested.

    The magazine says the illustration was of some guy named Muhammad, not
    the religious icon, and was about suffering of Muslims during armed
    conflict. I'm missing how that's not a message of peace.

    Arrest warrants were issued for two other editors, currently abroad.

        The pro-government Yeni Safak newspaper said the cartoon showed
        "two figures alleged to be Prophet Muhammad and Prophet Moses -- >>>     with wings and halos -- shaking hands in the sky, while a war
        scene unfolds below with bombs raining down." The independent
        Birgun newspaper said the winged figures hovering in the sky
        were interpreted by some as Prophets Muhammad and Moses.

        . . .

        President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has called the cartoon a "clear
        provocation disguised as humor" and vowed that "those who insult >>>     the Prophet and other messengers will be held accountable before >>>     the law."

    https://ibb.co/xqckTq1m

    Since some effort presumably went into that, I'd like to understand it:

       r.a.tv appears to be shushing me so that it can enjoy what things?

    (I'll welcome any passerby's explanation of the above snarky link...)

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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Wed Jul 9 04:30:51 2025
    In article <1043r00$3kuv2$1@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
    "Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    Turkey's moviePig law is being enforced against staff members of a
    satirical magazine for a humorous cartoon depicting Muhammad. Four were
    arrested.

    The magazine says the illustration was of some guy named Muhammad, not
    the religious icon, and was about suffering of Muslims during armed
    conflict. I'm missing how that's not a message of peace.

    Arrest warrants were issued for two other editors, currently abroad.

    The pro-government Yeni Safak newspaper said the cartoon showed
    "two figures alleged to be Prophet Muhammad and Prophet Moses --
    with wings and halos -- shaking hands in the sky, while a war
    scene unfolds below with bombs raining down." The independent
    Birgun newspaper said the winged figures hovering in the sky
    were interpreted by some as Prophets Muhammad and Moses.

    . . .

    President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has called the cartoon a "clear
    provocation disguised as humor" and vowed that "those who insult
    the Prophet and other messengers will be held accountable before
    the law."


    https://ibb.co/xqckTq1m

    Heh.

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