• Re: OT: CO2 reaches 30 million-year high...

    From Rhino@21:1/5 to moviePig on Thu Jul 3 12:44:54 2025
    On 2025-07-02 10:58 PM, moviePig wrote:

    ...and counting.  But don't worry, Trump's shutting down the sensor...

    https://www.nbcnews.com/science/climate-change/earth-co2-record-global- warming-rcna210974

    Read your own subject line and give it a couple of seconds of thought.
    The CO2 level was high 30 million years ago and is only just now
    catching up to that level now. What happened in the meantime? Why, it
    went down! Surely the result of passionate activism by all the
    environmentally conscious people of that era, right? Oh, wait, THERE
    WERE NO PEOPLE OF ANY KIND 30 million years ago!!!

    So how did all that CO2 get into the atmosphere in the first place if
    there were no people and what process made the levels get lower after
    that peak 30 million years ago? What makes you think that same process
    won't come into play now?


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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Rhino on Thu Jul 3 17:53:44 2025
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2025-07-02 10:58 PM, moviePig wrote:

    ...and counting. But don't worry, Trump's shutting down the sensor...

    https://www.nbcnews.com/science/climate-change/earth-co2-record-global-warming-rcna210974

    Read your own subject line and give it a couple of seconds of thought.
    The CO2 level was high 30 million years ago and is only just now
    catching up to that level now. What happened in the meantime? Why, it
    went down! Surely the result of passionate activism by all the >environmentally conscious people of that era, right? Oh, wait, THERE
    WERE NO PEOPLE OF ANY KIND 30 million years ago!!!

    So how did all that CO2 get into the atmosphere in the first place if
    there were no people and what process made the levels get lower after
    that peak 30 million years ago? What makes you think that same process
    won't come into play now?

    They made the dinosaurs give up their gas-guzzling vehicles and ride
    public transportation instead?

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to Rhino on Thu Jul 3 15:45:36 2025
    On 7/3/2025 12:44 PM, Rhino wrote:
    On 2025-07-02 10:58 PM, moviePig wrote:

    ...and counting.  But don't worry, Trump's shutting down the sensor...

    https://www.nbcnews.com/science/climate-change/earth-co2-record-
    global- warming-rcna210974

    Read your own subject line and give it a couple of seconds of thought.
    The CO2 level was high 30 million years ago and is only just now
    catching up to that level now. What happened in the meantime? Why, it
    went down! Surely the result of passionate activism by all the environmentally conscious people of that era, right? Oh, wait, THERE
    WERE NO PEOPLE OF ANY KIND 30 million years ago!!!

    So how did all that CO2 get into the atmosphere in the first place if
    there were no people and what process made the levels get lower after
    that peak 30 million years ago? What makes you think that same process
    won't come into play now?

    I posted to scotch any suspicion that, because we've forgotten about
    global warming, it's forgotten about us. The CO2 greenhouse effect
    appears to be among the less controversial bellwether phenomena.

    As to whether there's a CO2-fairy who steps in to tweak the thermostat
    whenever things get toasty, you should note that 30 million years ago
    just happens to match today's CO2 level ...and at that time the level
    was *dropping* from much, much higher (whereas today it's rising).

    But, like you, I derive my scientific view from that of "experts"...and,
    afaics the genuine ones seem, if uncertain about magnitude, nevertheless unanimous about direction. Here's a short take answering your question:

    https://earth.org/data_visualization/a-brief-history-of-co2/

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  • From shawn@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 3 16:15:03 2025
    On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 15:45:36 -0400, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
    wrote:

    On 7/3/2025 12:44 PM, Rhino wrote:
    On 2025-07-02 10:58 PM, moviePig wrote:

    ...and counting.  But don't worry, Trump's shutting down the sensor...

    https://www.nbcnews.com/science/climate-change/earth-co2-record-
    global- warming-rcna210974

    Read your own subject line and give it a couple of seconds of thought.
    The CO2 level was high 30 million years ago and is only just now
    catching up to that level now. What happened in the meantime? Why, it
    went down! Surely the result of passionate activism by all the
    environmentally conscious people of that era, right? Oh, wait, THERE
    WERE NO PEOPLE OF ANY KIND 30 million years ago!!!

    So how did all that CO2 get into the atmosphere in the first place if
    there were no people and what process made the levels get lower after
    that peak 30 million years ago? What makes you think that same process
    won't come into play now?

    I posted to scotch any suspicion that, because we've forgotten about
    global warming, it's forgotten about us. The CO2 greenhouse effect
    appears to be among the less controversial bellwether phenomena.

    As to whether there's a CO2-fairy who steps in to tweak the thermostat >whenever things get toasty, you should note that 30 million years ago
    just happens to match today's CO2 level ...and at that time the level
    was *dropping* from much, much higher (whereas today it's rising).

    But, like you, I derive my scientific view from that of "experts"...and, >afaics the genuine ones seem, if uncertain about magnitude, nevertheless >unanimous about direction. Here's a short take answering your question:

    https://earth.org/data_visualization/a-brief-history-of-co2/


    Seems to me the latest I'm hearing from the experts is less about the temperature change and more about the speed of the change. If the
    temps were to raise, even by 10 degrees, over the next 10,000 years I
    think we could handle it. It wouldn't be pleasant since much of the
    ocean front property would be under water, but we can adjust given
    enough time.

    However if that same change were to occur over the next 100 years we
    wouldn't have time to adjust as many of our major cities would be
    underwater leaving all of those residents without a place to live. I
    don't expect we would see such a drastic change as the predictions
    seem to be for a degree increase, barring the runaway condition that
    hit Venus. Still, if that change occurs over a short enough time we
    are going to be faced with a very difficult situation.

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 2 22:58:00 2025
    ...and counting. But don't worry, Trump's shutting down the sensor...

    https://www.nbcnews.com/science/climate-change/earth-co2-record-global-warming-rcna210974

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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to nobody@nowhere.com on Wed Jul 9 04:30:52 2025
    In article <1044rjo$3uut0$1@dont-email.me>, nobody@nowhere.com wrote:

    Trump's shutting down the sensor...

    #FakeNews

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