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  • Landlord fines tenant for negative reviews

    From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 7 22:20:55 2025
    In Scottsdale, a man beomes a tenants in rental housing, intending to
    stay for a few months as he looks to buy. He had to leave his old house
    by a specific deadline as it had sold.

    The property was not in move-in condition, large black marks on the
    carpeting, large holes in the walls. The management company ignored
    complaints. After posting two negative reviews, he was fined $4,000.

    The lease he signed includes a non-disparagement clause specific to
    posting such reviews.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUqjG7ZZZU0

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Tue Jul 8 00:23:28 2025
    On Jul 7, 2025 at 3:20:55 PM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    In Scottsdale, a man beomes a tenants in rental housing, intending to
    stay for a few months as he looks to buy. He had to leave his old house
    by a specific deadline as it had sold.

    The property was not in move-in condition, large black marks on the carpeting, large holes in the walls. The management company ignored complaints. After posting two negative reviews, he was fined $4,000.

    The lease he signed includes a non-disparagement clause specific to
    posting such reviews.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUqjG7ZZZU0

    I'm pretty sure California has a law that invalidates any such clauses in contracts and lease agreements as void against public policy. Business and landlords can put them in but they're unenforceable.

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 7 21:54:03 2025
    On 2025-07-07 8:23 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jul 7, 2025 at 3:20:55 PM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    In Scottsdale, a man beomes a tenants in rental housing, intending to
    stay for a few months as he looks to buy. He had to leave his old house
    by a specific deadline as it had sold.

    The property was not in move-in condition, large black marks on the
    carpeting, large holes in the walls. The management company ignored
    complaints. After posting two negative reviews, he was fined $4,000.

    The lease he signed includes a non-disparagement clause specific to
    posting such reviews.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUqjG7ZZZU0

    I'm pretty sure California has a law that invalidates any such clauses in contracts and lease agreements as void against public policy. Business and landlords can put them in but they're unenforceable.


    California has a ssensible and reasonable law about
    something? Wow! It must date back to one of the Republican governors....

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    Rhino

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  • From danny burstein@21:1/5 to Rhino on Tue Jul 8 02:17:12 2025
    In <104htns$36p4f$1@dont-email.me> Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> writes:

    [snip]

    I'm pretty sure California has a law that invalidates any such clauses in
    contracts and lease agreements as void against public policy. Business and >> landlords can put them in but they're unenforceable.

    California has a ssensible and reasonable law about
    something? Wow! It must date back to one of the Republican governors....

    nah, more likely a holdover from when it was part of Spain,
    (or maybe.. during the Mexican period)
    and no one in the last century realized the law was there
    because it was in Spanish...

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to danny burstein on Tue Jul 8 03:39:11 2025
    On Jul 7, 2025 at 7:17:12 PM PDT, "danny burstein" <dannyb@panix.com> wrote:

    In <104htns$36p4f$1@dont-email.me> Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> writes:

    [snip]

    I'm pretty sure California has a law that invalidates any such clauses in >>> contracts and lease agreements as void against public policy. Business and >>> landlords can put them in but they're unenforceable.

    California has a ssensible and reasonable law about
    something? Wow! It must date back to one of the Republican governors....

    nah, more likely a holdover from when it was part of Spain

    Yeah, 'cause the Spanish conquistadors were notorious for their zealous protection of the right to leave a Yelp! review.

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