• Canadia Welcomes Trump Refugees

    From BTR1701@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 11 16:40:19 2025
    Welcome to Canadia!

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/DK2D18YuFQI/

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  • From EGK@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Fri Jul 11 12:43:28 2025
    On Fri, 11 Jul 2025 16:40:19 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    Welcome to Canadia!

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/DK2D18YuFQI/


    I liked that one comment. "So Canada is basically California. got it.

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to EGK on Fri Jul 11 13:15:32 2025
    On 2025-07-11 12:43 PM, EGK wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Jul 2025 16:40:19 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    Welcome to Canadia!

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/DK2D18YuFQI/


    I liked that one comment. "So Canada is basically California. got it.

    Not quite. Our currency is worth a lot less than the US dollar so the comparison between the Seattle minimum wage and the Ontario one is even
    more in favour of the US than the video shows.

    But politically, Canada IS a lot like California: too damn many
    "progressives" willing to vote for the Liberal Party despite their
    massive incompetence and malicious indifference to fiscal sense. The
    Liberals just keep spending money, despite deficits ballooning beyond
    anything this country has ever seen.

    I hope you don't think Canadians are particularly happy about this turn
    of events. Remember, Canadians have no say - and have NEVER had any
    direct say - over immigration policy. The federal government sets that
    policy and only major issues can cause them to modify it and even then,
    any modifications are temporary. For instance, it became abundantly
    clear to everyone that we admitted too many people in recent years, particularly students on visas who often didn't actually go to school
    and instead worked full time. This caused housing to be extremely short
    and overwhelmed our health care system so the Liberals TEMPORARILY
    reduced numbers for a couple of years. Meanwhile, they have expressed
    eagerness to take in refugees from Gaza, as if we don't have enough
    disruption of things by students and professional protesters at
    pro-Hamas demonstrations. I remember a cabinet minister insisting that
    the need to bring in Gazans was so severe that we needed to abandon
    vetting because that might delay rescuing these people!

    --
    Rhino

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Fri Jul 11 19:33:29 2025
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    Welcome to Canadia!

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/DK2D18YuFQI/

    I could never sneak into Canada. I'd be deported immediately. Poutine is inedible and I couldn't hide my disgust.

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  • From danny burstein@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Fri Jul 11 19:37:03 2025
    In <104rou9$1ln28$3@dont-email.me> "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> writes:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    Welcome to Canadia!

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/DK2D18YuFQI/

    I could never sneak into Canada. I'd be deported immediately. Poutine is >inedible and I couldn't hide my disgust.

    And if I tried using "bagged" milk I'd spill it all
    over the table, floor, and the lap of my seat mate...


    --
    _____________________________________________________
    Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key
    dannyb@panix.com
    [to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]

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  • From Ian J. Ball@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Fri Jul 11 13:02:30 2025
    On 7/11/25 12:47 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 7/11/25 12:33 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    Welcome to Canadia!

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/DK2D18YuFQI/

    I could never sneak into Canada. I'd be deported immediately. Poutine is >>> inedible and I couldn't hide my disgust.

    Also, your favorite hockey team is the Panthers!! ;p

    I know the NHL was expanded more than three decades ago but I still
    cannot wrap my mind around hockey being played in a part of the world
    without winter.

    There should be no hockey south of the *49th parallel*!! O:)

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Ian J. Ball on Fri Jul 11 19:47:48 2025
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 7/11/25 12:33 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    Welcome to Canadia!

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/DK2D18YuFQI/

    I could never sneak into Canada. I'd be deported immediately. Poutine is >>inedible and I couldn't hide my disgust.

    Also, your favorite hockey team is the Panthers!! ;p

    I know the NHL was expanded more than three decades ago but I still
    cannot wrap my mind around hockey being played in a part of the world
    without winter.

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  • From Ian J. Ball@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Fri Jul 11 12:37:47 2025
    On 7/11/25 12:33 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    Welcome to Canadia!

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/DK2D18YuFQI/

    I could never sneak into Canada. I'd be deported immediately. Poutine is inedible and I couldn't hide my disgust.

    Also, your favorite hockey team is the Panthers!! ;p

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to danny burstein on Fri Jul 11 19:55:05 2025
    danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> wrote:

    And if I tried using "bagged" milk I'd spill it all
    over the table, floor, and the lap of my seat mate...

    Yeah, I don't get that. I remember changing out the bagged milk in the
    milk machine in the cafeteria I worked in but that had a special tube
    and lever. But to just use a 1 gallon bag of milk in a home kitchen
    without specially-designed equipment? Yes, I'd expect to create a major
    spill too.

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Fri Jul 11 16:24:54 2025
    On 2025-07-11 3:33 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    Welcome to Canadia!

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/DK2D18YuFQI/

    I could never sneak into Canada. I'd be deported immediately. Poutine is inedible and I couldn't hide my disgust.

    I'm really terrible about trying unfamiliar food but a year or two back,
    I tried poutine and I would happily have it again any time. It's just
    french fries with gravy and some soft cheese curds for extra flavour.
    Very tasty!

    --
    Rhino

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to danny burstein on Fri Jul 11 16:28:19 2025
    On 2025-07-11 3:37 PM, danny burstein wrote:
    In <104rou9$1ln28$3@dont-email.me> "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> writes:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    Welcome to Canadia!

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/DK2D18YuFQI/

    I could never sneak into Canada. I'd be deported immediately. Poutine is
    inedible and I couldn't hide my disgust.

    And if I tried using "bagged" milk I'd spill it all
    over the table, floor, and the lap of my seat mate...


    There are special pitchers for bagged milk so as long as you stick with
    them, you'll be fine. The other option is that you can cut a small
    opening into the corner of the bag and then pour the milk out into a
    regular pitcher. Either way, easy peasy.

    We also have milk in the traditional cartons. (We used to have it in
    jugs too but I haven't seen those in years; I think they got
    discontinued because they were found to be unsanitary even after they'd
    been carefully washed upon return to the milk supplier.)

    --
    Rhino

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Fri Jul 11 16:32:49 2025
    On 2025-07-11 3:55 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> wrote:

    And if I tried using "bagged" milk I'd spill it all
    over the table, floor, and the lap of my seat mate...

    Yeah, I don't get that. I remember changing out the bagged milk in the
    milk machine in the cafeteria I worked in but that had a special tube
    and lever. But to just use a 1 gallon bag of milk in a home kitchen
    without specially-designed equipment? Yes, I'd expect to create a major
    spill too.

    We used the large milk bags you're describing in the cafeteria of the
    student residence. You couldn't really spill those because the spout was
    sealed until after you'd installed the bag in the machine; then you cut
    off the tip of the spout and the handle regulated things from there on.

    Of course, you *could* just lift the handle without a glass beneath the
    spout and then you'd get a spill.

    As for milk bags at home, they only have a capacity of one litre (very
    close to a quart) so you won't spill all that much even if you spill a
    whole bag worth.

    --
    Rhino

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to Ian J. Ball on Fri Jul 11 16:35:21 2025
    On 2025-07-11 4:02 PM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
    On 7/11/25 12:47 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 7/11/25 12:33 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    Welcome to Canadia!

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/DK2D18YuFQI/

    I could never sneak into Canada. I'd be deported immediately.
    Poutine is
    inedible and I couldn't hide my disgust.

    Also, your favorite hockey team is the Panthers!!  ;p

    I know the NHL was expanded more than three decades ago but I still
    cannot wrap my mind around hockey being played in a part of the world
    without winter.

    There should be no hockey south of the *49th parallel*!!  O:)


    Some major Canadian teams like Toronto and Montreal are south of the
    49th parallel so that would raise some issues among sports fans....

    --
    Rhino

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  • From suzeeq@21:1/5 to Rhino on Fri Jul 11 14:54:03 2025
    On 7/11/2025 1:24 PM, Rhino wrote:
    On 2025-07-11 3:33 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    Welcome to Canadia!

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/DK2D18YuFQI/

    I could never sneak into Canada. I'd be deported immediately. Poutine is
    inedible and I couldn't hide my disgust.

    I'm really terrible about trying unfamiliar food but a year or two back,
    I tried poutine and I would happily have it again any time. It's just
    french fries with gravy and some soft cheese curds for extra flavour.
    Very tasty!

    Yep, I'd like to try it.

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  • From suzeeq@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Fri Jul 11 14:52:37 2025
    On 7/11/2025 12:33 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    Welcome to Canadia!

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/DK2D18YuFQI/

    I could never sneak into Canada. I'd be deported immediately. Poutine is inedible and I couldn't hide my disgust.

    Well, they don't exactly serve it at the border crossing..

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  • From Ian J. Ball@21:1/5 to Rhino on Fri Jul 11 15:27:59 2025
    On 7/11/25 1:35 PM, Rhino wrote:

    On 2025-07-11 4:02 PM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
    On 7/11/25 12:47 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 7/11/25 12:33 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    Welcome to Canadia!

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/DK2D18YuFQI/

    I could never sneak into Canada. I'd be deported immediately.
    Poutine is
    inedible and I couldn't hide my disgust.

    Also, your favorite hockey team is the Panthers!!  ;p

    I know the NHL was expanded more than three decades ago but I still
    cannot wrap my mind around hockey being played in a part of the world
    without winter.

    There should be no hockey south of the *49th parallel*!!  O:)

    Some major Canadian teams like Toronto and Montreal are south of the
    49th parallel so that would raise some issues among sports fans....

    South of the 49th parallel?!! - Not real Canadians!!! :D

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to Ian J. Ball on Fri Jul 11 22:50:06 2025
    On 2025-07-11 6:27 PM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
    On 7/11/25 1:35 PM, Rhino wrote:

    On 2025-07-11 4:02 PM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
    On 7/11/25 12:47 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 7/11/25 12:33 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    Welcome to Canadia!

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/DK2D18YuFQI/

    I could never sneak into Canada. I'd be deported immediately.
    Poutine is
    inedible and I couldn't hide my disgust.

    Also, your favorite hockey team is the Panthers!!  ;p

    I know the NHL was expanded more than three decades ago but I still
    cannot wrap my mind around hockey being played in a part of the world
    without winter.

    There should be no hockey south of the *49th parallel*!!  O:)

    Some major Canadian teams like Toronto and Montreal are south of the
    49th parallel so that would raise some issues among sports fans....

    South of the 49th parallel?!! - Not real Canadians!!!  :D


    Fair enough ;-)

    --
    Rhino

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  • From super70s@21:1/5 to Rhino on Fri Jul 11 23:00:53 2025
    On 2025-07-11 17:15:32 +0000, Rhino said:

    Not quite. Our currency is worth a lot less than the US dollar so the comparison between the Seattle minimum wage and the Ontario one is even
    more in favour of the US than the video shows.

    But politically, Canada IS a lot like California: too damn many "progressives" willing to vote for the Liberal Party despite their
    massive incompetence and malicious indifference to fiscal sense. The
    Liberals just keep spending money, despite deficits ballooning beyond anything this country has ever seen.

    There's nothing like the threat of being annexed by an insane US
    president to turn voters to supporting the party that most stands
    against it. Not to mention the tariff insanity.

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 15 01:13:22 2025
    On Fri, 11 Jul 2025 13:02:30 -0700, "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid>
    wrote:

    I know the NHL was expanded more than three decades ago but I still
    cannot wrap my mind around hockey being played in a part of the world
    without winter.

    There should be no hockey south of the *49th parallel*!! O:)

    You know as well as I do that pro hockey is more about bucks than
    pucks!

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to no_offline_contact@example.com on Tue Jul 15 01:11:33 2025
    On Fri, 11 Jul 2025 13:15:32 -0400, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    But politically, Canada IS a lot like California: too damn many >"progressives" willing to vote for the Liberal Party despite their
    massive incompetence and malicious indifference to fiscal sense. The
    Liberals just keep spending money, despite deficits ballooning beyond >anything this country has ever seen.

    I hope you don't think Canadians are particularly happy about this turn
    of events. Remember, Canadians have no say - and have NEVER had any
    direct say - over immigration policy. The federal government sets that
    policy and only major issues can cause them to modify it and even then,
    any modifications are temporary. For instance, it became abundantly
    clear to everyone that we admitted too many people in recent years, >particularly students on visas who often didn't actually go to school
    and instead worked full time. This caused housing to be extremely short
    and overwhelmed our health care system so the Liberals TEMPORARILY
    reduced numbers for a couple of years. Meanwhile, they have expressed >eagerness to take in refugees from Gaza, as if we don't have enough >disruption of things by students and professional protesters at
    pro-Hamas demonstrations. I remember a cabinet minister insisting that
    the need to bring in Gazans was so severe that we needed to abandon
    vetting because that might delay rescuing these people!

    While I agree with you, I feel extremely strongly that Donald Trump
    personally interfered in April's Canadian election in a way that's
    beyond the pale. By his intervention he turned an election from a 25
    point Conservative party lead into a 2 point win (at least in popular
    vote - by district count it was much more of a win) for the Liberals -
    the party of Justin Trudeau who if anything was even crazier than Joe
    Biden in his last days.

    Part of the problem is that the Canadian federal government has given
    Quebec the right to vet their own immigrants - BUT once they're
    admitted to Canada they have the right to leave Quebec and move to any
    province they choose - meaning Quebec gets to keep their fees and
    these peoples' new homes get the cost without federal financial help.

    And Justin Trudeau more than doubled the immigration rate from when he
    took office. Basically Canada's population has increased 15-20% since
    Trudeau took office in November 2015. Roughly 35% came from China, 25%
    from India - but that does not count 'refugees' many of whom come from
    places where one can reasonably question whether they actually had to
    flee. That ALSO doesn't include foreigners on student visas, a fair
    number of which turned out NOT to be attending school when the
    Canadian government did an audit.

    Needless to say that's been having a social impact.

    But no question, had Trump said nothing Mark Carney would not have won
    April's election.

    And directly interfering in an ally's electoral process is about the
    most heinous offence one can do - other than declaring war or imposing
    ruinous tariffs..... so while last November I felt Trump was far
    better than Harris mostly because I felt the Gaza war was primarily
    caused by Biden's weakness on foreign policy now I'm wondering...

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to ahk@chinet.com on Tue Jul 15 01:12:24 2025
    On Fri, 11 Jul 2025 19:33:29 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    Welcome to Canadia!

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/DK2D18YuFQI/

    I could never sneak into Canada. I'd be deported immediately. Poutine is >inedible and I couldn't hide my disgust.

    Since when do Americans have trouble entering Canada?

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to ahk@chinet.com on Tue Jul 15 01:24:29 2025
    On Fri, 11 Jul 2025 19:55:05 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> wrote:

    And if I tried using "bagged" milk I'd spill it all
    over the table, floor, and the lap of my seat mate...

    Yeah, I don't get that. I remember changing out the bagged milk in the
    milk machine in the cafeteria I worked in but that had a special tube
    and lever. But to just use a 1 gallon bag of milk in a home kitchen
    without specially-designed equipment? Yes, I'd expect to create a major
    spill too.

    We get that all the time in Canada though when you do you typically
    get your 4 liters (roughly 1 US gallon) as 4 1 liter bags which before
    opening the bag you put it into your plastic pitcher bag and all - it
    works fairly well. Doing that with an entire gallon at once could be
    messy!

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 15 01:22:34 2025
    On Fri, 11 Jul 2025 15:27:59 -0700, "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid>
    wrote:

    South of the 49th parallel?!! - Not real Canadians!!! :D

    As I've said in my previous posting you've just defined 65-70% of
    Canadians as "Not real Canadians!!!" :D

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to no_offline_contact@example.com on Tue Jul 15 01:21:36 2025
    On Fri, 11 Jul 2025 16:35:21 -0400, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    There should be no hockey south of the *49th parallel*!!  O:)


    Some major Canadian teams like Toronto and Montreal are south of the
    49th parallel so that would raise some issues among sports fans....

    Actually the 49th parallel is only the Canada / US boundary west of
    Lake of the Woods (Minnesota on your side, the Manitoba/Ontario border
    on ours) and something like 65-70% of Canadians live S of 49 N
    latitude - Toronto, Montreal, Ottawa and Quebec City are all S of 49
    N.

    Detroit, MI for instance is directly north of Windsor, ON.

    (I've travelled to all 10 Canadian provinces and have taken the US
    route from Hamilton, ON to Winnipeg, MB - via Michigan, Minnesota,
    Wisconsin and North Dakota in mid-winter - which is why I get REALLY
    PO'd at the people smugglers who drive would be immigrants from the US
    to the Canadian border in January when -35 is warm and make them walk
    across without ensuring they have suitable clothing to do so - nearly
    every year you hear of fatalities from that. I personally think
    sentencing the smugglers to do the same preferably in swimsuits in
    January would be a suitable punishment)

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to no_offline_contact@example.com on Tue Jul 15 01:27:18 2025
    On Fri, 11 Jul 2025 16:28:19 -0400, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    There are special pitchers for bagged milk so as long as you stick with
    them, you'll be fine. The other option is that you can cut a small
    opening into the corner of the bag and then pour the milk out into a
    regular pitcher. Either way, easy peasy.

    We also have milk in the traditional cartons. (We used to have it in
    jugs too but I haven't seen those in years; I think they got
    discontinued because they were found to be unsanitary even after they'd
    been carefully washed upon return to the milk supplier.)

    https://www.safeway.com/shop/aisles/dairy-eggs-cheese/milk-cream.html?sort=&page=1&loc=3132

    This is typically how we get our milk these days - though that's a US
    site and even with the exchange rate we pay more - I typically pay
    about Cdn $ 10.50 for one of those. That's about $6.50-7.00 US

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  • From shawn@21:1/5 to ahk@chinet.com on Tue Jul 15 05:05:45 2025
    On Fri, 11 Jul 2025 19:33:29 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    Welcome to Canadia!

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/DK2D18YuFQI/

    I could never sneak into Canada. I'd be deported immediately. Poutine is >inedible and I couldn't hide my disgust.

    You know you can get poutine in the USA. You can even put it together
    yourself. https://www.thetakeout.com/how-to-order-culvers-poutine-fries-gravy-cheese-curds-1849486708/

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to The Horny Goat on Tue Jul 15 15:46:31 2025
    The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
    Fri, 11 Jul 2025 19:33:29 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com>: >>BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    Welcome to Canadia!

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/DK2D18YuFQI/

    I could never sneak into Canada. I'd be deported immediately. Poutine is >>inedible and I couldn't hide my disgust.

    Since when do Americans have trouble entering Canada?

    We're at war, dude. I've breached national security by interacting with
    you here on Usenet. I'm not even supposed to go outside today due to
    high particulate matter from wildfire smoke.

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to shawn on Tue Jul 15 15:47:54 2025
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
    Fri, 11 Jul 2025 19:33:29 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com>: >>BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    Welcome to Canadia!

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/DK2D18YuFQI/

    I could never sneak into Canada. I'd be deported immediately. Poutine is >>inedible and I couldn't hide my disgust.

    You know you can get poutine in the USA. You can even put it together >yourself. >https://www.thetakeout.com/how-to-order-culvers-poutine-fries-gravy-cheese-curds-1849486708/

    ICE is watching for that. I don't want to get deported.

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to The Horny Goat on Tue Jul 15 19:15:27 2025
    On Jul 15, 2025 at 1:11:33 AM PDT, "The Horny Goat" <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:

    On Fri, 11 Jul 2025 13:15:32 -0400, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    But politically, Canada IS a lot like California: too damn many
    "progressives" willing to vote for the Liberal Party despite their
    massive incompetence and malicious indifference to fiscal sense. The
    Liberals just keep spending money, despite deficits ballooning beyond
    anything this country has ever seen.

    I hope you don't think Canadians are particularly happy about this turn
    of events. Remember, Canadians have no say - and have NEVER had any
    direct say - over immigration policy. The federal government sets that
    policy and only major issues can cause them to modify it and even then,
    any modifications are temporary. For instance, it became abundantly
    clear to everyone that we admitted too many people in recent years,
    particularly students on visas who often didn't actually go to school
    and instead worked full time. This caused housing to be extremely short
    and overwhelmed our health care system so the Liberals TEMPORARILY
    reduced numbers for a couple of years. Meanwhile, they have expressed
    eagerness to take in refugees from Gaza, as if we don't have enough
    disruption of things by students and professional protesters at
    pro-Hamas demonstrations. I remember a cabinet minister insisting that
    the need to bring in Gazans was so severe that we needed to abandon
    vetting because that might delay rescuing these people!

    While I agree with you, I feel extremely strongly that Donald Trump personally interfered in April's Canadian election in a way that's
    beyond the pale. By his intervention he turned an election from a 25
    point Conservative party lead into a 2 point win (at least in popular
    vote - by district count it was much more of a win) for the Liberals -
    the party of Justin Trudeau who if anything was even crazier than Joe
    Biden in his last days.

    Part of the problem is that the Canadian federal government has given
    Quebec the right to vet their own immigrants - BUT once they're
    admitted to Canada they have the right to leave Quebec and move to any province they choose - meaning Quebec gets to keep their fees and
    these peoples' new homes get the cost without federal financial help.

    And Justin Trudeau more than doubled the immigration rate from when he
    took office. Basically Canada's population has increased 15-20% since
    Trudeau took office in November 2015. Roughly 35% came from China, 25%
    from India - but that does not count 'refugees' many of whom come from
    places where one can reasonably question whether they actually had to
    flee. That ALSO doesn't include foreigners on student visas, a fair
    number of which turned out NOT to be attending school when the
    Canadian government did an audit.

    Needless to say that's been having a social impact.

    But no question, had Trump said nothing Mark Carney would not have won April's election.

    And directly interfering in an ally's electoral process is about the
    most heinous offence one can do - other than declaring war or imposing ruinous tariffs..... so while last November I felt Trump was far
    better than Harris mostly because I felt the Gaza war was primarily
    caused by Biden's weakness on foreign policy now I'm wondering...

    Nothing to wonder about. Had Harris won, we'd have already had another 2 million *more* illegals in the country than when Biden left office and Iran would still be lobbing missiles and making nuclear bombs instead of sorting through the rubble and agreeing to concessions at a negotiating table.

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Tue Jul 15 19:20:16 2025
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    On Jul 15, 2025 at 1:11:33 AM PDT, "The Horny Goat" <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:

    On Fri, 11 Jul 2025 13:15:32 -0400, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    But politically, Canada IS a lot like California: too damn many
    "progressives" willing to vote for the Liberal Party despite their
    massive incompetence and malicious indifference to fiscal sense. The
    Liberals just keep spending money, despite deficits ballooning beyond
    anything this country has ever seen.

    I hope you don't think Canadians are particularly happy about this turn
    of events. Remember, Canadians have no say - and have NEVER had any
    direct say - over immigration policy. The federal government sets that
    policy and only major issues can cause them to modify it and even then,
    any modifications are temporary. For instance, it became abundantly
    clear to everyone that we admitted too many people in recent years,
    particularly students on visas who often didn't actually go to school
    and instead worked full time. This caused housing to be extremely short
    and overwhelmed our health care system so the Liberals TEMPORARILY
    reduced numbers for a couple of years. Meanwhile, they have expressed
    eagerness to take in refugees from Gaza, as if we don't have enough
    disruption of things by students and professional protesters at
    pro-Hamas demonstrations. I remember a cabinet minister insisting that
    the need to bring in Gazans was so severe that we needed to abandon
    vetting because that might delay rescuing these people!

    While I agree with you, I feel extremely strongly that Donald Trump
    personally interfered in April's Canadian election in a way that's
    beyond the pale. By his intervention he turned an election from a 25
    point Conservative party lead into a 2 point win (at least in popular
    vote - by district count it was much more of a win) for the Liberals -
    the party of Justin Trudeau who if anything was even crazier than Joe
    Biden in his last days.

    Part of the problem is that the Canadian federal government has given
    Quebec the right to vet their own immigrants - BUT once they're
    admitted to Canada they have the right to leave Quebec and move to any
    province they choose - meaning Quebec gets to keep their fees and
    these peoples' new homes get the cost without federal financial help.

    And Justin Trudeau more than doubled the immigration rate from when he
    took office. Basically Canada's population has increased 15-20% since
    Trudeau took office in November 2015. Roughly 35% came from China, 25%
    from India - but that does not count 'refugees' many of whom come from
    places where one can reasonably question whether they actually had to
    flee. That ALSO doesn't include foreigners on student visas, a fair
    number of which turned out NOT to be attending school when the
    Canadian government did an audit.

    Needless to say that's been having a social impact.

    But no question, had Trump said nothing Mark Carney would not have won
    April's election.

    And directly interfering in an ally's electoral process is about the
    most heinous offence one can do - other than declaring war or imposing
    ruinous tariffs..... so while last November I felt Trump was far
    better than Harris mostly because I felt the Gaza war was primarily
    caused by Biden's weakness on foreign policy now I'm wondering...

    Nothing to wonder about. Had Harris won, we'd have already had another 2 >million *more* illegals in the country than when Biden left office and Iran >would still be lobbing missiles and making nuclear bombs instead of sorting >through the rubble and agreeing to concessions at a negotiating table.

    If Trump hadn't won in 2016, he wouldn't have been in office to pull out
    of Obama's nuclear deal in the first place.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to ahk@chinet.com on Wed Jul 16 07:36:57 2025
    On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 19:20:16 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    On Jul 15, 2025 at 1:11:33 AM PDT, "The Horny Goat" <lcraver@home.ca> wrote: >>
    On Fri, 11 Jul 2025 13:15:32 -0400, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    But politically, Canada IS a lot like California: too damn many
    "progressives" willing to vote for the Liberal Party despite their
    massive incompetence and malicious indifference to fiscal sense. The
    Liberals just keep spending money, despite deficits ballooning beyond
    anything this country has ever seen.

    I hope you don't think Canadians are particularly happy about this turn >>>> of events. Remember, Canadians have no say - and have NEVER had any
    direct say - over immigration policy. The federal government sets that >>>> policy and only major issues can cause them to modify it and even then, >>>> any modifications are temporary. For instance, it became abundantly
    clear to everyone that we admitted too many people in recent years,
    particularly students on visas who often didn't actually go to school
    and instead worked full time. This caused housing to be extremely short >>>> and overwhelmed our health care system so the Liberals TEMPORARILY
    reduced numbers for a couple of years. Meanwhile, they have expressed
    eagerness to take in refugees from Gaza, as if we don't have enough
    disruption of things by students and professional protesters at
    pro-Hamas demonstrations. I remember a cabinet minister insisting that >>>> the need to bring in Gazans was so severe that we needed to abandon
    vetting because that might delay rescuing these people!

    While I agree with you, I feel extremely strongly that Donald Trump
    personally interfered in April's Canadian election in a way that's
    beyond the pale. By his intervention he turned an election from a 25
    point Conservative party lead into a 2 point win (at least in popular
    vote - by district count it was much more of a win) for the Liberals -
    the party of Justin Trudeau who if anything was even crazier than Joe
    Biden in his last days.

    Part of the problem is that the Canadian federal government has given
    Quebec the right to vet their own immigrants - BUT once they're
    admitted to Canada they have the right to leave Quebec and move to any
    province they choose - meaning Quebec gets to keep their fees and
    these peoples' new homes get the cost without federal financial help.

    And Justin Trudeau more than doubled the immigration rate from when he
    took office. Basically Canada's population has increased 15-20% since
    Trudeau took office in November 2015. Roughly 35% came from China, 25%
    from India - but that does not count 'refugees' many of whom come from
    places where one can reasonably question whether they actually had to
    flee. That ALSO doesn't include foreigners on student visas, a fair
    number of which turned out NOT to be attending school when the
    Canadian government did an audit.

    Needless to say that's been having a social impact.

    But no question, had Trump said nothing Mark Carney would not have won
    April's election.

    And directly interfering in an ally's electoral process is about the
    most heinous offence one can do - other than declaring war or imposing
    ruinous tariffs..... so while last November I felt Trump was far
    better than Harris mostly because I felt the Gaza war was primarily
    caused by Biden's weakness on foreign policy now I'm wondering...

    Nothing to wonder about. Had Harris won, we'd have already had another 2 >>million *more* illegals in the country than when Biden left office and Iran >>would still be lobbing missiles and making nuclear bombs instead of sorting >>through the rubble and agreeing to concessions at a negotiating table.

    If Trump hadn't won in 2016, he wouldn't have been in office to pull out
    of Obama's nuclear deal in the first place.

    What does this have to do with what Harris's policies would have been?
    Sounds like a diversion to me.

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