Since allowing millions of practitioners of the Religion of Peace to flood into their country and enrich their culture by bringing their barbarity with them, the German government has been trying to tackle the problem of brown men
sexually assaulting ethnic white German women just about everywhere. From public parks and pools, to the subways, and right out on the street in broad daylight, German girls and women have had to endure the predations of the Muslim men their government has so thoughtfully foisted upon them against their will-- everything from public groping and butt pinches to outright rape.
The government, like most European nations that are hell-bent on committing slow motion national suicide, has downplayed it whenever it happens and the courts officially excuse the perpetrators as simply 'culturally unaware' that rape is a no-no in Germany. In some notorious cases, Muslim men have been sentenced to mere probation for not just groping but actually full-on raping women under this theory that they just don't know any better because they come
from countries that are culturally frozen in the Dark Ages.
Now, however, the German government has decided to tackle this problem head-on
with a public awareness campaign that consists of posters displayed in public places all over the country, advising that groping and sexual assault is a nein-nein in Germany. The posters feature examples of this bad behavior in action.
The only problem?
They depict real-German white people sexually assaulting the migrants, instead
of the other way around, the way it really happens literally 100% of the time:
https://ibb.co/jZkxY44y
https://ibb.co/nqrymCJM
https://ibb.co/rRVW6DMN
Apparently we were all hallucinating that the epidemic of male sexual violence
in Germany was being committed by the sweet innocent illegal aliens. It's really those horrible native German citizens who are assaulting the poor vulnerable migrants.
Yes, there's an epidemic of middle-aged ginger hausfraus groping Muhammed's ass when he's just trying to enjoy a swim at the local pool. Apparently, the one-legged illegal aliens are especially vulnerable to being raped by evil white women (and portly gay white men, too).
On 7/13/2025 3:17 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
Since allowing millions of practitioners of the Religion of Peace to flood >> into their country and enrich their culture by bringing their barbarity with
them, the German government has been trying to tackle the problem of brown >> men
sexually assaulting ethnic white German women just about everywhere. From >> public parks and pools, to the subways, and right out on the street in broad
daylight, German girls and women have had to endure the predations of the >> Muslim men their government has so thoughtfully foisted upon them against >> their will-- everything from public groping and butt pinches to outright
rape.
The government, like most European nations that are hell-bent on committing >> slow motion national suicide, has downplayed it whenever it happens and the >> courts officially excuse the perpetrators as simply 'culturally unaware'
that
rape is a no-no in Germany. In some notorious cases, Muslim men have been >> sentenced to mere probation for not just groping but actually full-on raping
women under this theory that they just don't know any better because they >> come
from countries that are culturally frozen in the Dark Ages.
Now, however, the German government has decided to tackle this problem
head-on
with a public awareness campaign that consists of posters displayed in
public
places all over the country, advising that groping and sexual assault is a >> nein-nein in Germany. The posters feature examples of this bad behavior in >> action.
The only problem?
They depict real-German white people sexually assaulting the migrants,
instead
of the other way around, the way it really happens literally 100% of the
time:
https://ibb.co/jZkxY44y
https://ibb.co/nqrymCJM
https://ibb.co/rRVW6DMN
Apparently we were all hallucinating that the epidemic of male sexual
violence
in Germany was being committed by the sweet innocent illegal aliens. It's >> really those horrible native German citizens who are assaulting the poor
vulnerable migrants.
Yes, there's an epidemic of middle-aged ginger hausfraus groping Muhammed's >> ass when he's just trying to enjoy a swim at the local pool. Apparently, the
one-legged illegal aliens are especially vulnerable to being raped by evil >> white women (and portly gay white men, too).
"...this theory that they just don't know any better because they come
from countries that are culturally frozen in the Dark Ages."
What's your conflicting -- and better -- theory?
On Jul 13, 2025 at 1:19:39 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 7/13/2025 3:17 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
Since allowing millions of practitioners of the Religion of Peace to flood
into their country and enrich their culture by bringing their barbarity with
them, the German government has been trying to tackle the problem of brown
men
sexually assaulting ethnic white German women just about everywhere. From >>> public parks and pools, to the subways, and right out on the street in broad
daylight, German girls and women have had to endure the predations of the >>> Muslim men their government has so thoughtfully foisted upon them against >>> their will-- everything from public groping and butt pinches to outright >>> rape.
The government, like most European nations that are hell-bent on committing
slow motion national suicide, has downplayed it whenever it happens and the
courts officially excuse the perpetrators as simply 'culturally unaware' >>> that
rape is a no-no in Germany. In some notorious cases, Muslim men have been >>> sentenced to mere probation for not just groping but actually full-on raping
women under this theory that they just don't know any better because they >>> come
from countries that are culturally frozen in the Dark Ages.
Now, however, the German government has decided to tackle this problem >>> head-on
with a public awareness campaign that consists of posters displayed in >>> public
places all over the country, advising that groping and sexual assault is a
nein-nein in Germany. The posters feature examples of this bad behavior in
action.
The only problem?
They depict real-German white people sexually assaulting the migrants, >>> instead
of the other way around, the way it really happens literally 100% of the >>> time:
https://ibb.co/jZkxY44y
https://ibb.co/nqrymCJM
https://ibb.co/rRVW6DMN
Apparently we were all hallucinating that the epidemic of male sexual
violence
in Germany was being committed by the sweet innocent illegal aliens. It's >>> really those horrible native German citizens who are assaulting the poor >>> vulnerable migrants.
Yes, there's an epidemic of middle-aged ginger hausfraus groping Muhammed's
ass when he's just trying to enjoy a swim at the local pool. Apparently, the
one-legged illegal aliens are especially vulnerable to being raped by evil
white women (and portly gay white men, too).
"...this theory that they just don't know any better because they come
from countries that are culturally frozen in the Dark Ages."
What's your conflicting -- and better -- theory?
Well, if it's true that they honestly don't know that violently raping women is wrong, if that's their cultural norm, then my position as a German citizen would be to STOP LETTING PEOPLE WHO HOLD THOSE VALUES INTO MY COUNTRY BY THE MILLIONS.
How about we try that for a while and see how it works?
On 7/13/2025 4:49 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 13, 2025 at 1:19:39 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>
On 7/13/2025 3:17 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
Since allowing millions of practitioners of the Religion of Peace to flood
into their country and enrich their culture by bringing their barbarity >>>> with
them, the German government has been trying to tackle the problem of brown
men
sexually assaulting ethnic white German women just about everywhere. From
public parks and pools, to the subways, and right out on the street in >>>> broad
daylight, German girls and women have had to endure the predations of the
Muslim men their government has so thoughtfully foisted upon them against
their will-- everything from public groping and butt pinches to outright
rape.
The government, like most European nations that are hell-bent on
committing
slow motion national suicide, has downplayed it whenever it happens and >>>> the
courts officially excuse the perpetrators as simply 'culturally unaware'
that
rape is a no-no in Germany. In some notorious cases, Muslim men have been
sentenced to mere probation for not just groping but actually full-on >>>> raping
women under this theory that they just don't know any better because they
come
from countries that are culturally frozen in the Dark Ages.
Now, however, the German government has decided to tackle this problem >>>> head-on
with a public awareness campaign that consists of posters displayed in >>>> public
places all over the country, advising that groping and sexual assault is a
nein-nein in Germany. The posters feature examples of this bad behavior in
action.
The only problem?
They depict real-German white people sexually assaulting the migrants, >>>> instead
of the other way around, the way it really happens literally 100% of the
time:
https://ibb.co/jZkxY44y
https://ibb.co/nqrymCJM
https://ibb.co/rRVW6DMN
Apparently we were all hallucinating that the epidemic of male sexual >>>> violence
in Germany was being committed by the sweet innocent illegal aliens. It's
really those horrible native German citizens who are assaulting the poor
vulnerable migrants.
Yes, there's an epidemic of middle-aged ginger hausfraus groping
Muhammed's
ass when he's just trying to enjoy a swim at the local pool.
Apparently, the
one-legged illegal aliens are especially vulnerable to being raped by evil
white women (and portly gay white men, too).
"...this theory that they just don't know any better because they come
from countries that are culturally frozen in the Dark Ages."
What's your conflicting -- and better -- theory?
Well, if it's true that they honestly don't know that violently raping women
is wrong, if that's their cultural norm, then my position as a German
citizen
would be to STOP LETTING PEOPLE WHO HOLD THOSE VALUES INTO MY COUNTRY BY THE
MILLIONS.
How about we try that for a while and see how it works?
Unfortunately, that smacks of discrimination based on de facto religious values ...which has an atrocious history of its own.
My point is simply that easy answers are usually neither.
On Jul 13, 2025 at 3:07:58 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 7/13/2025 4:49 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 13, 2025 at 1:19:39 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>
On 7/13/2025 3:17 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
Since allowing millions of practitioners of the Religion of Peace to flood
into their country and enrich their culture by bringing their barbarity
with
them, the German government has been trying to tackle the problem of brown
men
sexually assaulting ethnic white German women just about everywhere. From
public parks and pools, to the subways, and right out on the street in
broad
daylight, German girls and women have had to endure the predations of the
Muslim men their government has so thoughtfully foisted upon them against
their will-- everything from public groping and butt pinches to outright
rape.
The government, like most European nations that are hell-bent on >>>>> committing
slow motion national suicide, has downplayed it whenever it happens and
the
courts officially excuse the perpetrators as simply 'culturally unaware'
that
rape is a no-no in Germany. In some notorious cases, Muslim men have been
sentenced to mere probation for not just groping but actually full-on >>>>> raping
women under this theory that they just don't know any better because they
come
from countries that are culturally frozen in the Dark Ages.
Now, however, the German government has decided to tackle this problem
head-on
with a public awareness campaign that consists of posters displayed in
public
places all over the country, advising that groping and sexual assault is a
nein-nein in Germany. The posters feature examples of this bad behavior in
action.
The only problem?
They depict real-German white people sexually assaulting the migrants,
instead
of the other way around, the way it really happens literally 100% of the
time:
https://ibb.co/jZkxY44y
https://ibb.co/nqrymCJM
https://ibb.co/rRVW6DMN
Apparently we were all hallucinating that the epidemic of male sexual >>>>> violence
in Germany was being committed by the sweet innocent illegal aliens. It's
really those horrible native German citizens who are assaulting the poor
vulnerable migrants.
Yes, there's an epidemic of middle-aged ginger hausfraus groping >>>>> Muhammed's
ass when he's just trying to enjoy a swim at the local pool.
Apparently, the
one-legged illegal aliens are especially vulnerable to being raped by evil
white women (and portly gay white men, too).
"...this theory that they just don't know any better because they come >>>> from countries that are culturally frozen in the Dark Ages."
What's your conflicting -- and better -- theory?
Well, if it's true that they honestly don't know that violently raping women
is wrong, if that's their cultural norm, then my position as a German
citizen
would be to STOP LETTING PEOPLE WHO HOLD THOSE VALUES INTO MY COUNTRY BY THE
MILLIONS.
How about we try that for a while and see how it works?
Unfortunately, that smacks of discrimination based on de facto religious
values ...which has an atrocious history of its own.
If your religious values hold women in such low esteem that rape is considered
a right for men to exercise casually at their whim, then keep that religion the fuck out of my country. It deserves to be discriminated against.
Where is it written that we must accommodate and tolerate any and all savagery
merely because it's done under the imprimatur of religion?
Would a bunch of neo-Aztecs have a valid discrimination complaint if we banned
them because of their curious habit of ripping the still-beating hearts out of
children to appease their gods? Is that something we'd be required to tolerate
and embrace so that no one will point at us and say 'bigot'?
My point is simply that easy answers are usually neither.
Well, it's certainly no answer to put up a bunch of posters portraying the white people as the rapists and molesters and the immigrants as the victims.
On 7/13/2025 6:26 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 13, 2025 at 3:07:58 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>
On 7/13/2025 4:49 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 13, 2025 at 1:19:39 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 7/13/2025 3:17 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
Since allowing millions of practitioners of the Religion of Peace >>>>>> to flood
into their country and enrich their culture by bringing their barbarity
with
them, the German government has been trying to tackle the problem >>>>>> of brown
men
sexually assaulting ethnic white German women just about
everywhere. From
public parks and pools, to the subways, and right out on the street in
broad
daylight, German girls and women have had to endure the predations >>>>>> of the
Muslim men their government has so thoughtfully foisted upon them >>>>>> against
their will-- everything from public groping and butt pinches to outright
rape.
The government, like most European nations that are hell-bent on >>>>>> committing
slow motion national suicide, has downplayed it whenever it happens and
the
courts officially excuse the perpetrators as simply 'culturally unaware'
that
rape is a no-no in Germany. In some notorious cases, Muslim men >>>>>> have been
sentenced to mere probation for not just groping but actually full-on
raping
women under this theory that they just don't know any better
because they
come
from countries that are culturally frozen in the Dark Ages.
Now, however, the German government has decided to tackle this problem
head-on
with a public awareness campaign that consists of posters displayed in
public
places all over the country, advising that groping and sexual >>>>>> assault is a
nein-nein in Germany. The posters feature examples of this bad >>>>>> behavior in
action.
The only problem?
They depict real-German white people sexually assaulting the migrants,
instead
of the other way around, the way it really happens literally 100% of the
time:
https://ibb.co/jZkxY44y
https://ibb.co/nqrymCJM
https://ibb.co/rRVW6DMN
Apparently we were all hallucinating that the epidemic of male sexual
violence
in Germany was being committed by the sweet innocent illegal
aliens. It's
really those horrible native German citizens who are assaulting the poor
vulnerable migrants.
Yes, there's an epidemic of middle-aged ginger hausfraus groping >>>>>> Muhammed's
ass when he's just trying to enjoy a swim at the local pool.
Apparently, the
one-legged illegal aliens are especially vulnerable to being raped >>>>>> by evil
white women (and portly gay white men, too).
"...this theory that they just don't know any better because they come >>>>> from countries that are culturally frozen in the Dark Ages."
What's your conflicting -- and better -- theory?
Well, if it's true that they honestly don't know that violently raping >>>> women
is wrong, if that's their cultural norm, then my position as a German >>>> citizen
would be to STOP LETTING PEOPLE WHO HOLD THOSE VALUES INTO MY COUNTRY >>>> BY THE
MILLIONS.
How about we try that for a while and see how it works?
Unfortunately, that smacks of discrimination based on de facto religious >>> values ...which has an atrocious history of its own.
If your religious values hold women in such low esteem that rape is
considered
a right for men to exercise casually at their whim, then keep that religion >> the fuck out of my country. It deserves to be discriminated against.
Where is it written that we must accommodate and tolerate any and all
savagery
merely because it's done under the imprimatur of religion?
Would a bunch of neo-Aztecs have a valid discrimination complaint if we
banned
them because of their curious habit of ripping the still-beating hearts out >> of
children to appease their gods? Is that something we'd be required to
tolerate
and embrace so that no one will point at us and say 'bigot'?
My point is simply that easy answers are usually neither.
Well, it's certainly no answer to put up a bunch of posters portraying the >> white people as the rapists and molesters and the immigrants as the victims.
How will you word your exclusion measure?
On Jul 13, 2025 at 4:00:56 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 7/13/2025 6:26 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 13, 2025 at 3:07:58 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>
On 7/13/2025 4:49 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 13, 2025 at 1:19:39 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 7/13/2025 3:17 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
Since allowing millions of practitioners of the Religion of Peace >>>>>>> to flood
into their country and enrich their culture by bringing their barbarity
with
them, the German government has been trying to tackle the problem >>>>>>> of brown
men
sexually assaulting ethnic white German women just about
everywhere. From
public parks and pools, to the subways, and right out on the street in
broad
daylight, German girls and women have had to endure the predations
of the
Muslim men their government has so thoughtfully foisted upon them >>>>>>> against
their will-- everything from public groping and butt pinches to outright
rape.
The government, like most European nations that are hell-bent on >>>>>>> committing
slow motion national suicide, has downplayed it whenever it happens and
the
courts officially excuse the perpetrators as simply 'culturally unaware'
that
rape is a no-no in Germany. In some notorious cases, Muslim men >>>>>>> have been
sentenced to mere probation for not just groping but actually full-on
raping
women under this theory that they just don't know any better >>>>>>> because they
come
from countries that are culturally frozen in the Dark Ages. >>>>>>>
Now, however, the German government has decided to tackle this problem
head-on
with a public awareness campaign that consists of posters displayed in
public
places all over the country, advising that groping and sexual >>>>>>> assault is a
nein-nein in Germany. The posters feature examples of this bad >>>>>>> behavior in
action.
The only problem?
They depict real-German white people sexually assaulting the migrants,
instead
of the other way around, the way it really happens literally 100% of the
time:
https://ibb.co/jZkxY44y
https://ibb.co/nqrymCJM
https://ibb.co/rRVW6DMN
Apparently we were all hallucinating that the epidemic of male sexual
violence
in Germany was being committed by the sweet innocent illegal >>>>>>> aliens. It's
really those horrible native German citizens who are assaulting the poor
vulnerable migrants.
Yes, there's an epidemic of middle-aged ginger hausfraus groping >>>>>>> Muhammed's
ass when he's just trying to enjoy a swim at the local pool. >>>>>>> Apparently, the
one-legged illegal aliens are especially vulnerable to being raped
by evil
white women (and portly gay white men, too).
"...this theory that they just don't know any better because they come
from countries that are culturally frozen in the Dark Ages."
What's your conflicting -- and better -- theory?
Well, if it's true that they honestly don't know that violently raping
women
is wrong, if that's their cultural norm, then my position as a German >>>>> citizen
would be to STOP LETTING PEOPLE WHO HOLD THOSE VALUES INTO MY COUNTRY >>>>> BY THE
MILLIONS.
How about we try that for a while and see how it works?
Unfortunately, that smacks of discrimination based on de facto religious >>>> values ...which has an atrocious history of its own.
If your religious values hold women in such low esteem that rape is
considered
a right for men to exercise casually at their whim, then keep that religion
the fuck out of my country. It deserves to be discriminated against.
Where is it written that we must accommodate and tolerate any and all
savagery
merely because it's done under the imprimatur of religion?
Would a bunch of neo-Aztecs have a valid discrimination complaint if we >>> banned
them because of their curious habit of ripping the still-beating hearts out
of
children to appease their gods? Is that something we'd be required to
tolerate
and embrace so that no one will point at us and say 'bigot'?
My point is simply that easy answers are usually neither.
Well, it's certainly no answer to put up a bunch of posters portraying the
white people as the rapists and molesters and the immigrants as the victims.
How will you word your exclusion measure?
Simple: "The border is closed to immigrants immediately and will remain in effect indefinitely. We have enough people. We don't need more."
Verily, in article <1051dr8$30p3a$1@dont-email.me>, did
nobody@nowhere.com deliver unto us this message:
How will you word your exclusion measure?
What if some population shouldn't be admitted because it had a much
higher proclivity for murder? I'm sure we'd come up with something then. Let's do that.
On 7/13/2025 8:06 PM, Melissa Hollingsworth wrote:
Verily, in article <1051dr8$30p3a$1@dont-email.me>, did
nobody@nowhere.com deliver unto us this message:
How will you word your exclusion measure?
What if some population shouldn't be admitted because it had a much
higher proclivity for murder? I'm sure we'd come up with something then.
Let's do that.
Again, how will you word that measure?
On 7/13/2025 8:06 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 13, 2025 at 4:00:56 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>
On 7/13/2025 6:26 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 13, 2025 at 3:07:58 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 7/13/2025 4:49 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 13, 2025 at 1:19:39 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> >>>>>> wrote:
On 7/13/2025 3:17 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
Since allowing millions of practitioners of the Religion of Peace
to flood
into their country and enrich their culture by bringing their >>>>>>>> barbarity
with
them, the German government has been trying to tackle the problem
of brown
men
sexually assaulting ethnic white German women just about >>>>>>>> everywhere. From
public parks and pools, to the subways, and right out on the street in
broad
daylight, German girls and women have had to endure the predations
of the
Muslim men their government has so thoughtfully foisted upon them
against
their will-- everything from public groping and butt pinches to >>>>>>>> outright
rape.
The government, like most European nations that are hell-bent on
committing
slow motion national suicide, has downplayed it whenever it >>>>>>>> happens and
the
courts officially excuse the perpetrators as simply 'culturally >>>>>>>> unaware'
that
rape is a no-no in Germany. In some notorious cases, Muslim men >>>>>>>> have been
sentenced to mere probation for not just groping but actually full-on
raping
women under this theory that they just don't know any better >>>>>>>> because they
come
from countries that are culturally frozen in the Dark Ages. >>>>>>>>
Now, however, the German government has decided to tackle this problem
head-on
with a public awareness campaign that consists of posters displayed in
public
places all over the country, advising that groping and sexual >>>>>>>> assault is a
nein-nein in Germany. The posters feature examples of this bad >>>>>>>> behavior in
action.
The only problem?
They depict real-German white people sexually assaulting the migrants,
instead
of the other way around, the way it really happens literally >>>>>>>> 100% of the
time:
https://ibb.co/jZkxY44y
https://ibb.co/nqrymCJM
https://ibb.co/rRVW6DMN
Apparently we were all hallucinating that the epidemic of male sexual
violence
in Germany was being committed by the sweet innocent illegal >>>>>>>> aliens. It's
really those horrible native German citizens who are assaulting >>>>>>>> the poor
vulnerable migrants.
Yes, there's an epidemic of middle-aged ginger hausfraus groping
Muhammed's
ass when he's just trying to enjoy a swim at the local pool. >>>>>>>> Apparently, the
one-legged illegal aliens are especially vulnerable to being raped
by evil
white women (and portly gay white men, too).
"...this theory that they just don't know any better because they come
from countries that are culturally frozen in the Dark Ages." >>>>>>>
What's your conflicting -- and better -- theory?
Well, if it's true that they honestly don't know that violently raping
women
is wrong, if that's their cultural norm, then my position as a German
citizen
would be to STOP LETTING PEOPLE WHO HOLD THOSE VALUES INTO MY COUNTRY
BY THE
MILLIONS.
How about we try that for a while and see how it works?
Unfortunately, that smacks of discrimination based on de facto religious
values ...which has an atrocious history of its own.
If your religious values hold women in such low esteem that rape is >>>> considered
a right for men to exercise casually at their whim, then keep that
religion
the fuck out of my country. It deserves to be discriminated against. >>>>
Where is it written that we must accommodate and tolerate any and all >>>> savagery
merely because it's done under the imprimatur of religion?
Would a bunch of neo-Aztecs have a valid discrimination complaint if we >>>> banned
them because of their curious habit of ripping the still-beating hearts >>>> out
of
children to appease their gods? Is that something we'd be required to >>>> tolerate
and embrace so that no one will point at us and say 'bigot'?
My point is simply that easy answers are usually neither.
Well, it's certainly no answer to put up a bunch of posters portraying the
white people as the rapists and molesters and the immigrants as the >>>> victims.
How will you word your exclusion measure?
Simple: "The border is closed to immigrants immediately and will remain in >> effect indefinitely. We have enough people. We don't need more."
You'll turn away all immigrants because you find some objectionable?
. . .
If your religious values hold women in such low esteem that rape
is considered a right for men to exercise casually at their whim,
then keep that religion the fuck out of my country. It deserves to be >discriminated against.
Where is it written that we must accommodate and tolerate any and all >savagery merely because it's done under the imprimatur of religion?
Would a bunch of neo-Aztecs have a valid discrimination complaint if we >banned them because of their curious habit of ripping the still-beating >hearts out of children to appease their gods? Is that something we'd be >required to tolerate and embrace so that no one will point at us and say >'bigot'?
My point is simply that easy answers are usually neither.
Well, it's certainly no answer to put up a bunch of posters portraying the >white people as the rapists and molesters and the immigrants as the victims.
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
. . .
If your religious values hold women in such low esteem that rape
is considered a right for men to exercise casually at their whim,
then keep that religion the fuck out of my country. It deserves to be
discriminated against.
Where is it written that we must accommodate and tolerate any and all
savagery merely because it's done under the imprimatur of religion?
This remains my concern with the elevation of the right of free exercise
of religion in Supreme Court rulings over the last several decades, even
when I agree with the outcome in a case like Mahmoud v. Taylor (2025)
since religion may not respect the right of conscience of everybody
else. I know you disagree.
It's the 100th anniversary of the Scopes "Monkey Trial". A historian
pointed out that laws promoted by William Jennings Bryan prohibiting the teaching of evolution were comparable to Mahmoud, in that they protected
the right of parents to raise their children in their own religion what
with compulsory education through high school being brand new at the
time when the theory of evolution would have been taught. In some
states, it was prohibited to teach the theory to college students in
state schools.
However, Scopes' conviction was appealed on Establishment Clause
violation, not Free Exercise, and the Warren Court finally found such a
law unconstitutional in 1968 as an Establishment Clause violation.
Would a bunch of neo-Aztecs have a valid discrimination complaint if we
banned them because of their curious habit of ripping the still-beating
hearts out of children to appease their gods? Is that something we'd be
required to tolerate and embrace so that no one will point at us and say
'bigot'?
When I was a kid, they were still tossing virgins into the volcano to
appease the gods. I miss those days. It was so much easier to get laid.
My point is simply that easy answers are usually neither.
Well, it's certainly no answer to put up a bunch of posters portraying the >> white people as the rapists and molesters and the immigrants as the victims.
Mean people were calling the rapists, well, rapists.
On 7/13/2025 3:17 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
Since allowing millions of practitioners of the Religion of Peace to
flood
into their country and enrich their culture by bringing their
barbarity with
them, the German government has been trying to tackle the problem of
brown men
sexually assaulting ethnic white German women just about everywhere. From
public parks and pools, to the subways, and right out on the street in
broad
daylight, German girls and women have had to endure the predations of the
Muslim men their government has so thoughtfully foisted upon them against
their will-- everything from public groping and butt pinches to outright
rape.
The government, like most European nations that are hell-bent on
committing
slow motion national suicide, has downplayed it whenever it happens
and the
courts officially excuse the perpetrators as simply 'culturally
unaware' that
rape is a no-no in Germany. In some notorious cases, Muslim men have been
sentenced to mere probation for not just groping but actually full-on
raping
women under this theory that they just don't know any better because
they come
from countries that are culturally frozen in the Dark Ages.
Now, however, the German government has decided to tackle this problem
head-on
with a public awareness campaign that consists of posters displayed in
public
places all over the country, advising that groping and sexual assault
is a
nein-nein in Germany. The posters feature examples of this bad
behavior in
action.
The only problem?
They depict real-German white people sexually assaulting the migrants,
instead
of the other way around, the way it really happens literally 100% of the
time:
https://ibb.co/jZkxY44y
https://ibb.co/nqrymCJM
https://ibb.co/rRVW6DMN
Apparently we were all hallucinating that the epidemic of male sexual
violence
in Germany was being committed by the sweet innocent illegal aliens. It's
really those horrible native German citizens who are assaulting the poor
vulnerable migrants.
Yes, there's an epidemic of middle-aged ginger hausfraus groping
Muhammed's
ass when he's just trying to enjoy a swim at the local pool.
Apparently, the
one-legged illegal aliens are especially vulnerable to being raped by
evil
white women (and portly gay white men, too).
"...this theory that they just don't know any better because they come
from countries that are culturally frozen in the Dark Ages."
What's your conflicting -- and better -- theory?
On Jul 13, 2025 at 1:19:39 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 7/13/2025 3:17 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
Since allowing millions of practitioners of the Religion of Peace to flood.
into their country and enrich their culture by bringing their barbarity with
them, the German government has been trying to tackle the problem of brown
men
sexually assaulting ethnic white German women just about everywhere. From >>> public parks and pools, to the subways, and right out on the street in broad
daylight, German girls and women have had to endure the predations of the >>> Muslim men their government has so thoughtfully foisted upon them against >>> their will-- everything from public groping and butt pinches to outright >>> rape.
The government, like most European nations that are hell-bent on committing
slow motion national suicide, has downplayed it whenever it happens and the
courts officially excuse the perpetrators as simply 'culturally unaware' >>> that
rape is a no-no in Germany. In some notorious cases, Muslim men have been >>> sentenced to mere probation for not just groping but actually full-on raping
women under this theory that they just don't know any better because they >>> come
from countries that are culturally frozen in the Dark Ages.
Now, however, the German government has decided to tackle this problem >>> head-on
with a public awareness campaign that consists of posters displayed in >>> public
places all over the country, advising that groping and sexual assault is a
nein-nein in Germany. The posters feature examples of this bad behavior in
action.
The only problem?
They depict real-German white people sexually assaulting the migrants, >>> instead
of the other way around, the way it really happens literally 100% of the >>> time:
https://ibb.co/jZkxY44y
https://ibb.co/nqrymCJM
https://ibb.co/rRVW6DMN
Apparently we were all hallucinating that the epidemic of male sexual
violence
in Germany was being committed by the sweet innocent illegal aliens. It's >>> really those horrible native German citizens who are assaulting the poor >>> vulnerable migrants.
Yes, there's an epidemic of middle-aged ginger hausfraus groping Muhammed's
ass when he's just trying to enjoy a swim at the local pool. Apparently, the
one-legged illegal aliens are especially vulnerable to being raped by evil
white women (and portly gay white men, too).
"...this theory that they just don't know any better because they come
from countries that are culturally frozen in the Dark Ages."
What's your conflicting -- and better -- theory?
Well, if it's true that they honestly don't know that violently raping women is wrong, if that's their cultural norm, then my position as a German citizen would be to STOP LETTING PEOPLE WHO HOLD THOSE VALUES INTO MY COUNTRY BY THE MILLIONS.
How about we try that for a while and see how it works?
On Jul 13, 2025 at 7:35:44 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 7/13/2025 8:06 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 13, 2025 at 4:00:56 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>
On 7/13/2025 6:26 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 13, 2025 at 3:07:58 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 7/13/2025 4:49 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 13, 2025 at 1:19:39 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 7/13/2025 3:17 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
Since allowing millions of practitioners of the Religion of Peace
to flood
into their country and enrich their culture by bringing their >>>>>>>>> barbarity
with
them, the German government has been trying to tackle the problem
of brown
men
sexually assaulting ethnic white German women just about >>>>>>>>> everywhere. From
public parks and pools, to the subways, and right out on the street in
broad
daylight, German girls and women have had to endure the predations
of the
Muslim men their government has so thoughtfully foisted upon them
against
their will-- everything from public groping and butt pinches to
outright
rape.
The government, like most European nations that are hell-bent on
committing
slow motion national suicide, has downplayed it whenever it >>>>>>>>> happens and
the
courts officially excuse the perpetrators as simply 'culturally
unaware'
that
rape is a no-no in Germany. In some notorious cases, Muslim men
have been
sentenced to mere probation for not just groping but actually full-on
raping
women under this theory that they just don't know any better >>>>>>>>> because they
come
from countries that are culturally frozen in the Dark Ages. >>>>>>>>>
Now, however, the German government has decided to tackle this problem
head-on
with a public awareness campaign that consists of posters displayed in
public
places all over the country, advising that groping and sexual >>>>>>>>> assault is a
nein-nein in Germany. The posters feature examples of this bad
behavior in
action.
The only problem?
They depict real-German white people sexually assaulting the migrants,
instead
of the other way around, the way it really happens literally >>>>>>>>> 100% of the
time:
https://ibb.co/jZkxY44y
https://ibb.co/nqrymCJM
https://ibb.co/rRVW6DMN
Apparently we were all hallucinating that the epidemic of male sexual
violence
in Germany was being committed by the sweet innocent illegal >>>>>>>>> aliens. It's
really those horrible native German citizens who are assaulting
the poor
vulnerable migrants.
Yes, there's an epidemic of middle-aged ginger hausfraus groping
Muhammed's
ass when he's just trying to enjoy a swim at the local pool. >>>>>>>>> Apparently, the
one-legged illegal aliens are especially vulnerable to being raped
by evil
white women (and portly gay white men, too).
"...this theory that they just don't know any better because they come
from countries that are culturally frozen in the Dark Ages." >>>>>>>>
What's your conflicting -- and better -- theory?
Well, if it's true that they honestly don't know that violently raping
women
is wrong, if that's their cultural norm, then my position as a German
citizen
would be to STOP LETTING PEOPLE WHO HOLD THOSE VALUES INTO MY COUNTRY
BY THE
MILLIONS.
How about we try that for a while and see how it works?
Unfortunately, that smacks of discrimination based on de facto religious
values ...which has an atrocious history of its own.
If your religious values hold women in such low esteem that rape is >>>>> considered
a right for men to exercise casually at their whim, then keep that >>>>> religion
the fuck out of my country. It deserves to be discriminated against. >>>>>
Where is it written that we must accommodate and tolerate any and all >>>>> savagery
merely because it's done under the imprimatur of religion?
Would a bunch of neo-Aztecs have a valid discrimination complaint if we
banned
them because of their curious habit of ripping the still-beating hearts
out
of
children to appease their gods? Is that something we'd be required to >>>>> tolerate
and embrace so that no one will point at us and say 'bigot'?
My point is simply that easy answers are usually neither.
Well, it's certainly no answer to put up a bunch of posters portraying the
white people as the rapists and molesters and the immigrants as the >>>>> victims.
How will you word your exclusion measure?
Simple: "The border is closed to immigrants immediately and will remain in
effect indefinitely. We have enough people. We don't need more."
You'll turn away all immigrants because you find some objectionable?
I'd turn them away because the country is already awash with way too many. No country is obligated, either morally or legally, to just take all comers.
On Jul 13, 2025 at 7:36:55 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 7/13/2025 8:06 PM, Melissa Hollingsworth wrote:
Verily, in article <1051dr8$30p3a$1@dont-email.me>, did
nobody@nowhere.com deliver unto us this message:
How will you word your exclusion measure?
What if some population shouldn't be admitted because it had a much
higher proclivity for murder? I'm sure we'd come up with something then. >>> Let's do that.
Again, how will you word that measure?
Instruct the Bureau of Statistics to produce a breakdown on all migrant rapes and sexual assaults in Germany for the past 10 years, broken down by country of origin, then put a halt on immigrants from the countries that are most responsible for exporting their savage culture to Germany.
On 2025-07-13 4:19 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/13/2025 3:17 PM, BTR1701 wrote:The reality is actually worse than BTR is inferring. The offenders in
Since allowing millions of practitioners of the Religion of Peace to
flood
into their country and enrich their culture by bringing their
barbarity with
them, the German government has been trying to tackle the problem of
brown men
sexually assaulting ethnic white German women just about everywhere.
From
public parks and pools, to the subways, and right out on the street
in broad
daylight, German girls and women have had to endure the predations of
the
Muslim men their government has so thoughtfully foisted upon them
against
their will-- everything from public groping and butt pinches to outright >>> rape.
The government, like most European nations that are hell-bent on
committing
slow motion national suicide, has downplayed it whenever it happens
and the
courts officially excuse the perpetrators as simply 'culturally
unaware' that
rape is a no-no in Germany. In some notorious cases, Muslim men have
been
sentenced to mere probation for not just groping but actually full-on
raping
women under this theory that they just don't know any better because
they come
from countries that are culturally frozen in the Dark Ages.
Now, however, the German government has decided to tackle this
problem head-on
with a public awareness campaign that consists of posters displayed
in public
places all over the country, advising that groping and sexual assault
is a
nein-nein in Germany. The posters feature examples of this bad
behavior in
action.
The only problem?
They depict real-German white people sexually assaulting the
migrants, instead
of the other way around, the way it really happens literally 100% of the >>> time:
https://ibb.co/jZkxY44y
https://ibb.co/nqrymCJM
https://ibb.co/rRVW6DMN
Apparently we were all hallucinating that the epidemic of male sexual
violence
in Germany was being committed by the sweet innocent illegal aliens.
It's
really those horrible native German citizens who are assaulting the poor >>> vulnerable migrants.
Yes, there's an epidemic of middle-aged ginger hausfraus groping
Muhammed's
ass when he's just trying to enjoy a swim at the local pool.
Apparently, the
one-legged illegal aliens are especially vulnerable to being raped by
evil
white women (and portly gay white men, too).
"...this theory that they just don't know any better because they come
from countries that are culturally frozen in the Dark Ages."
What's your conflicting -- and better -- theory?
these cases are told by their religion that women that don't dress
modestly (in hijabs, niqabs or burkas, depending on how strict their particular brand of Islam is) are prostitutes and aren't entitled to any respect from men. Pulling off their swimsuits - top or bottom - is
perfectly okay for any Allah-fearing man.
In their culture, women don't bathe with men and have their own women-
only spaces for bathing and swimming. No Muslim woman will swim (or walk around outside the house) without having her hair covered because
Muslims apparently believe that men will be driven mad with lust at the
sight of a woman's hair and the men can't be held responsible for acting
on that lust.
A Western woman - any Western woman of any age - is begging to be
assaulted if she shows her hair or her bare arms or legs.
I remember seeing a video from Hamburg Germany a couple of years back
where a 30-something migrant insisted on showing porn on his phone to
the 70-something year old German woman sitting beside him on public
transit. He kept trying to entice her into sexual activity with the
German word "ficken", which means fuck in English.
Jul 13, 2025 at 9:47:04 PM PDT, Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote: >>BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
. . .
If your religious values hold women in such low esteem that rape
is considered a right for men to exercise casually at their whim,
then keep that religion the fuck out of my country. It deserves to be >>>discriminated against.
Where is it written that we must accommodate and tolerate any and all >>>savagery merely because it's done under the imprimatur of religion?
This remains my concern with the elevation of the right of free exercise
of religion in Supreme Court rulings over the last several decades, even >>when I agree with the outcome in a case like Mahmoud v. Taylor (2025)
since religion may not respect the right of conscience of everybody
else. I know you disagree.
We needn't even reach those issues because foreign nationals in other >countries do not have a constitutional right to immigrate to the U.S. The >government can decide if and how many immigrants it wants to admit from other >countries and can use virtually any criteria it likes in doing so.
, , ,
If I was running Germany, I'd make it a condition for admission to the >country, even as a refugee, that someone sit down with them and explain
(via an interpreter) that it is extremely offensive to German society to >molest women, describing all the different forms of molestation, and
that there will be major specified consequences if they do. Make sure
they repeat a detailed acknowledgement to that fact in their own
language, record it, and archive it, all keyed on their fingerprints or
other biometric. If they've done that - and satisfied all the other
rules for entry into Germany - they can come into Germany.
If, at some future time, they are implicated in some kind of
molestation, whether it is pulling down a woman's swimsuit in the pool
or rape or anything else, their recording can be vital evidence in court >showing that they DID know that these behaviours were not cool and went
ahead anyway. Then they can be imprisoned and/or deported and no one can
play the "poor little lamb just didn't know it was wrong" card.
On 7/14/2025 12:36 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 13, 2025 at 7:36:55 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>
On 7/13/2025 8:06 PM, Melissa Hollingsworth wrote:
Verily, in article <1051dr8$30p3a$1@dont-email.me>, did
nobody@nowhere.com deliver unto us this message:
How will you word your exclusion measure?
What if some population shouldn't be admitted because it had a much >>>> higher proclivity for murder? I'm sure we'd come up with something then.
Let's do that.
Again, how will you word that measure?
Instruct the Bureau of Statistics to produce a breakdown on all migrant
rapes
and sexual assaults in Germany for the past 10 years, broken down by country
of origin, then put a halt on immigrants from the countries that are most >> responsible for exporting their savage culture to Germany.
If statistical generalizations are acceptable, why not just bar men?
Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
, , ,If I was running Germany, I'd make it a condition for admission to the
country, even as a refugee, that someone sit down with them and explain
(via an interpreter) that it is extremely offensive to German society to
molest women, describing all the different forms of molestation, and
that there will be major specified consequences if they do. Make sure
they repeat a detailed acknowledgement to that fact in their own
language, record it, and archive it, all keyed on their fingerprints or
other biometric. If they've done that - and satisfied all the other
rules for entry into Germany - they can come into Germany.
I would impart this clue by swinging a LART against the side of the head
as hard as possible. If the clue bounces without penetrating, then the refugee or asylum seeker simply is not eligible for admission.
I'm sorry but someone who grew up in a religion and culture with such contempt for women is not going to change his attitude of contempt just
from having such a discussion. The problem is that where they come from, women have no autonomy and cannot go out in public without supervision
from a father, husband, brother, or other male relative. Furthermore,
they come from a sexually-repressed society.
They show up in Germany in which young women are free to walk around unsupervised, who show a lot of skin and generally do not repress their sexuality. The perpetrator who has likely never had sex sees nothing but sinful behavior. These women are not human beings so raping them means
that the perpetrator has not committed a crime against a person.
If, at some future time, they are implicated in some kind of
molestation, whether it is pulling down a woman's swimsuit in the pool
or rape or anything else, their recording can be vital evidence in court
showing that they DID know that these behaviours were not cool and went
ahead anyway. Then they can be imprisoned and/or deported and no one can
play the "poor little lamb just didn't know it was wrong" card.
But it's not the perpetrator who is claiming that he cannot be
prosecuted for the criminal act on the basis of having grown up without Western values. Those making the claim are Germans, who grew up WITH
Western values, who damn well know better.
On 2025-07-13 4:49 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 13, 2025 at 1:19:39 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>If I was running Germany, I'd make it a condition for admission to the country, even as a refugee, that someone sit down with them and explain
On 7/13/2025 3:17 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
Since allowing millions of practitioners of the Religion of Peace to flood.
into their country and enrich their culture by bringing their barbarity >>>> with
them, the German government has been trying to tackle the problem of brown
men
sexually assaulting ethnic white German women just about everywhere. From
public parks and pools, to the subways, and right out on the street in >>>> broad
daylight, German girls and women have had to endure the predations of the
Muslim men their government has so thoughtfully foisted upon them against
their will-- everything from public groping and butt pinches to outright
rape.
The government, like most European nations that are hell-bent on
committing
slow motion national suicide, has downplayed it whenever it happens and >>>> the
courts officially excuse the perpetrators as simply 'culturally unaware'
that
rape is a no-no in Germany. In some notorious cases, Muslim men have been
sentenced to mere probation for not just groping but actually full-on >>>> raping
women under this theory that they just don't know any better because they
come
from countries that are culturally frozen in the Dark Ages.
Now, however, the German government has decided to tackle this problem >>>> head-on
with a public awareness campaign that consists of posters displayed in >>>> public
places all over the country, advising that groping and sexual assault is a
nein-nein in Germany. The posters feature examples of this bad behavior in
action.
The only problem?
They depict real-German white people sexually assaulting the migrants, >>>> instead
of the other way around, the way it really happens literally 100% of the
time:
https://ibb.co/jZkxY44y
https://ibb.co/nqrymCJM
https://ibb.co/rRVW6DMN
Apparently we were all hallucinating that the epidemic of male sexual >>>> violence
in Germany was being committed by the sweet innocent illegal aliens. It's
really those horrible native German citizens who are assaulting the poor
vulnerable migrants.
Yes, there's an epidemic of middle-aged ginger hausfraus groping
Muhammed's
ass when he's just trying to enjoy a swim at the local pool.
Apparently, the
one-legged illegal aliens are especially vulnerable to being raped by evil
white women (and portly gay white men, too).
"...this theory that they just don't know any better because they come
from countries that are culturally frozen in the Dark Ages."
What's your conflicting -- and better -- theory?
Well, if it's true that they honestly don't know that violently raping women
is wrong, if that's their cultural norm, then my position as a German
citizen
would be to STOP LETTING PEOPLE WHO HOLD THOSE VALUES INTO MY COUNTRY BY THE
MILLIONS.
How about we try that for a while and see how it works?
(via an interpreter) that it is extremely offensive to German society to molest women, describing all the different forms of molestation, and
that there will be major specified consequences if they do. Make sure
they repeat a detailed acknowledgement to that fact in their own
language, record it, and archive it, all keyed on their fingerprints or
other biometric. If they've done that - and satisfied all the other
rules for entry into Germany - they can come into Germany.
If, at some future time, they are implicated in some kind of
molestation, whether it is pulling down a woman's swimsuit in the pool
or rape or anything else, their recording can be vital evidence in court showing that they DID know that these behaviours were not cool and went
ahead anyway. Then they can be imprisoned and/or deported and no one can
play the "poor little lamb just didn't know it was wrong" card.
On 7/14/2025 9:54 AM, Rhino wrote:
The reality is actually worse than BTR is inferring. The offenders in
these cases are told by their religion that women that don't dress
modestly (in hijabs, niqabs or burkas, depending on how strict their
particular brand of Islam is) are prostitutes and aren't entitled to any
respect from men. Pulling off their swimsuits - top or bottom - is
perfectly okay for any Allah-fearing man.
In their culture, women don't bathe with men and have their own women-
only spaces for bathing and swimming. No Muslim woman will swim (or walk
around outside the house) without having her hair covered because
Muslims apparently believe that men will be driven mad with lust at the
sight of a woman's hair and the men can't be held responsible for acting
on that lust.
A Western woman - any Western woman of any age - is begging to be
assaulted if she shows her hair or her bare arms or legs.
I remember seeing a video from Hamburg Germany a couple of years back
where a 30-something migrant insisted on showing porn on his phone to
the 70-something year old German woman sitting beside him on public
transit. He kept trying to entice her into sexual activity with the
German word "ficken", which means fuck in English.
I agree that such attitudes are so obscenely backward and inhuman that
its hard to see why they haven't expired from spontaneous neglect.
Otoh, since (e.g.) *we* condemn women who parade their boobs in a supermarket, what qualitatively entitles us to cast principled stones?
On Jul 14, 2025 at 9:09:00 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 7/14/2025 9:54 AM, Rhino wrote:
The reality is actually worse than BTR is inferring. The offenders in
these cases are told by their religion that women that don't dress
modestly (in hijabs, niqabs or burkas, depending on how strict their
particular brand of Islam is) are prostitutes and aren't entitled to any >>> respect from men. Pulling off their swimsuits - top or bottom - is
perfectly okay for any Allah-fearing man.
In their culture, women don't bathe with men and have their own women- >>> only spaces for bathing and swimming. No Muslim woman will swim (or walk >>> around outside the house) without having her hair covered because
Muslims apparently believe that men will be driven mad with lust at the >>> sight of a woman's hair and the men can't be held responsible for acting >>> on that lust.
A Western woman - any Western woman of any age - is begging to be
assaulted if she shows her hair or her bare arms or legs.
I remember seeing a video from Hamburg Germany a couple of years back
where a 30-something migrant insisted on showing porn on his phone to
the 70-something year old German woman sitting beside him on public
transit. He kept trying to entice her into sexual activity with the
German word "ficken", which means fuck in English.
I agree that such attitudes are so obscenely backward and inhuman that
its hard to see why they haven't expired from spontaneous neglect.
Otoh, since (e.g.) *we* condemn women who parade their boobs in a
supermarket, what qualitatively entitles us to cast principled stones?
We're qualified because it's *our* country and we're entitled to have our own culture and norms. Any immigrant who wants to come here must adjust to us, not
us to him.
On 7/14/2025 1:55 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 14, 2025 at 9:09:00 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>
On 7/14/2025 9:54 AM, Rhino wrote:
The reality is actually worse than BTR is inferring. The offenders in >>>> these cases are told by their religion that women that don't dress
modestly (in hijabs, niqabs or burkas, depending on how strict their >>>> particular brand of Islam is) are prostitutes and aren't entitled to any
respect from men. Pulling off their swimsuits - top or bottom - is
perfectly okay for any Allah-fearing man.
In their culture, women don't bathe with men and have their own women- >>>> only spaces for bathing and swimming. No Muslim woman will swim (or walk
around outside the house) without having her hair covered because
Muslims apparently believe that men will be driven mad with lust at the >>>> sight of a woman's hair and the men can't be held responsible for acting
on that lust.
A Western woman - any Western woman of any age - is begging to be
assaulted if she shows her hair or her bare arms or legs.
I remember seeing a video from Hamburg Germany a couple of years back >>>> where a 30-something migrant insisted on showing porn on his phone to >>>> the 70-something year old German woman sitting beside him on public >>>> transit. He kept trying to entice her into sexual activity with the >>>> German word "ficken", which means fuck in English.
I agree that such attitudes are so obscenely backward and inhuman that
its hard to see why they haven't expired from spontaneous neglect.
Otoh, since (e.g.) *we* condemn women who parade their boobs in a
supermarket, what qualitatively entitles us to cast principled stones?
We're qualified because it's *our* country and we're entitled to have our >> own
culture and norms. Any immigrant who wants to come here must adjust to us, >> not
us to him.
...which, afaics, boils down to "Might makes right".
Jul 14, 2025 at 9:09:00 AM PDT, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
I agree that such attitudes are so obscenely backward and inhuman that >>>>its hard to see why they haven't expired from spontaneous neglect. >>>>Otoh, since (e.g.) *we* condemn women who parade their boobs in a >>>>supermarket, what qualitatively entitles us to cast principled stones?
It's probably because nobody's assaulting them.
. . .
On Jul 14, 2025 at 11:11:57 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 7/14/2025 1:55 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 14, 2025 at 9:09:00 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>
On 7/14/2025 9:54 AM, Rhino wrote:We're qualified because it's *our* country and we're entitled to have our >>> own
The reality is actually worse than BTR is inferring. The offenders in >>>>> these cases are told by their religion that women that don't dress >>>>> modestly (in hijabs, niqabs or burkas, depending on how strict their >>>>> particular brand of Islam is) are prostitutes and aren't entitled to any
respect from men. Pulling off their swimsuits - top or bottom - is >>>>> perfectly okay for any Allah-fearing man.
In their culture, women don't bathe with men and have their own women-
only spaces for bathing and swimming. No Muslim woman will swim (or walk
around outside the house) without having her hair covered because >>>>> Muslims apparently believe that men will be driven mad with lust at the
sight of a woman's hair and the men can't be held responsible for acting
on that lust.
A Western woman - any Western woman of any age - is begging to be >>>>> assaulted if she shows her hair or her bare arms or legs.
I remember seeing a video from Hamburg Germany a couple of years back >>>>> where a 30-something migrant insisted on showing porn on his phone to >>>>> the 70-something year old German woman sitting beside him on public >>>>> transit. He kept trying to entice her into sexual activity with the >>>>> German word "ficken", which means fuck in English.
I agree that such attitudes are so obscenely backward and inhuman that >>>> its hard to see why they haven't expired from spontaneous neglect.
Otoh, since (e.g.) *we* condemn women who parade their boobs in a
supermarket, what qualitatively entitles us to cast principled stones? >>>
culture and norms. Any immigrant who wants to come here must adjust to us,
not
us to him.
...which, afaics, boils down to "Might makes right".
No, it boils down to "If you don't like our country, culture, and norms, you're free to go elsewhere or stay where you are."
But yes, we have the right and ability to decide who's allowed into our country and who's not because we have the strength to enforce it. If we didn't, they'd be called "invaders", not "immigrants", and it would be *them* who'd have the might.
On Jul 14, 2025 at 9:59:33 AM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
, , ,If I was running Germany, I'd make it a condition for admission to the
country, even as a refugee, that someone sit down with them and explain
(via an interpreter) that it is extremely offensive to German society to >>> molest women, describing all the different forms of molestation, and
that there will be major specified consequences if they do. Make sure
they repeat a detailed acknowledgement to that fact in their own
language, record it, and archive it, all keyed on their fingerprints or
other biometric. If they've done that - and satisfied all the other
rules for entry into Germany - they can come into Germany.
I would impart this clue by swinging a LART against the side of the head
as hard as possible. If the clue bounces without penetrating, then the
refugee or asylum seeker simply is not eligible for admission.
I'm sorry but someone who grew up in a religion and culture with such
contempt for women is not going to change his attitude of contempt just
from having such a discussion. The problem is that where they come from,
women have no autonomy and cannot go out in public without supervision
from a father, husband, brother, or other male relative. Furthermore,
they come from a sexually-repressed society.
They show up in Germany in which young women are free to walk around
unsupervised, who show a lot of skin and generally do not repress their
sexuality. The perpetrator who has likely never had sex sees nothing but
sinful behavior. These women are not human beings so raping them means
that the perpetrator has not committed a crime against a person.
And the German government responds by forgiving the rapist and telling its >native born female citizens to start wearing hijabs and stop wearing shorts >and crop tops and don't wear bikinis at public pools.
As it is everywhere in the West, the politicians say it's *our* duty to >accommodate our culture to theirs. We're the ones who are supposed to change >to make *them* happy, not the other way around.
If, at some future time, they are implicated in some kind of
molestation, whether it is pulling down a woman's swimsuit in the pool
or rape or anything else, their recording can be vital evidence in court >>> showing that they DID know that these behaviours were not cool and went
ahead anyway. Then they can be imprisoned and/or deported and no one can >>> play the "poor little lamb just didn't know it was wrong" card.
But it's not the perpetrator who is claiming that he cannot be
prosecuted for the criminal act on the basis of having grown up without
Western values. Those making the claim are Germans, who grew up WITH
Western values, who damn well know better.
On 7/14/2025 2:43 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 14, 2025 at 11:11:57 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>
On 7/14/2025 1:55 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 14, 2025 at 9:09:00 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 7/14/2025 9:54 AM, Rhino wrote:We're qualified because it's *our* country and we're entitled to have our
The reality is actually worse than BTR is inferring. The offenders in
these cases are told by their religion that women that don't dress >>>>>> modestly (in hijabs, niqabs or burkas, depending on how strict their
particular brand of Islam is) are prostitutes and aren't entitled to any
respect from men. Pulling off their swimsuits - top or bottom - is >>>>>> perfectly okay for any Allah-fearing man.
In their culture, women don't bathe with men and have their own women-
only spaces for bathing and swimming. No Muslim woman will swim (or walk
around outside the house) without having her hair covered because >>>>>> Muslims apparently believe that men will be driven mad with lust at the
sight of a woman's hair and the men can't be held responsible for acting
on that lust.
A Western woman - any Western woman of any age - is begging to be >>>>>> assaulted if she shows her hair or her bare arms or legs.
I remember seeing a video from Hamburg Germany a couple of years back
where a 30-something migrant insisted on showing porn on his phone to
the 70-something year old German woman sitting beside him on public >>>>>> transit. He kept trying to entice her into sexual activity with the >>>>>> German word "ficken", which means fuck in English.
I agree that such attitudes are so obscenely backward and inhuman that >>>>> its hard to see why they haven't expired from spontaneous neglect. >>>>> Otoh, since (e.g.) *we* condemn women who parade their boobs in a >>>>> supermarket, what qualitatively entitles us to cast principled stones? >>>>
own
culture and norms. Any immigrant who wants to come here must adjust to us,
not
us to him.
...which, afaics, boils down to "Might makes right".
No, it boils down to "If you don't like our country, culture, and norms,
you're free to go elsewhere or stay where you are."
But yes, we have the right and ability to decide who's allowed into our
country and who's not because we have the strength to enforce it. If we
didn't, they'd be called "invaders", not "immigrants", and it would be
*them*
who'd have the might.
We have any right we can enforce?
Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
, , ,
If I was running Germany, I'd make it a condition for admission to the
country, even as a refugee, that someone sit down with them and explain
(via an interpreter) that it is extremely offensive to German society to
molest women, describing all the different forms of molestation, and
that there will be major specified consequences if they do. Make sure
they repeat a detailed acknowledgement to that fact in their own
language, record it, and archive it, all keyed on their fingerprints or
other biometric. If they've done that - and satisfied all the other
rules for entry into Germany - they can come into Germany.
I would impart this clue by swinging a LART
against the side of the head
as hard as possible. If the clue bounces without Ww, then the
refugee or asylum seeker simply is not eligible for admission.
I'm sorry but someone who grew up in a religion and culture with such contempt for women is not going to change his attitude of contempt just
from having such a discussion.
The problem is that where they come from,
women have no autonomy and cannot go out in public without supervision
from a father, husband, brother, or other male relative. Furthermore,
they come from a sexually-repressed society.
They show up in Germany in which young women are free to walk around unsupervised, who show a lot of skin and generally do not repress their sexuality. The perpetrator who has likely never had sex sees nothing but sinful behavior. These women are not human beings so raping them means
that the perpetrator has not committed a crime against a person.
If, at some future time, they are implicated in some kind of
molestation, whether it is pulling down a woman's swimsuit in the pool
or rape or anything else, their recording can be vital evidence in court
showing that they DID know that these behaviours were not cool and went
ahead anyway. Then they can be imprisoned and/or deported and no one can
play the "poor little lamb just didn't know it was wrong" card.
But it's not the perpetrator who is claiming that he cannot be
prosecuted for the criminal act on the basis of having grown up without Western values. Those making the claim are Germans, who grew up WITH
Western values, who damn well know better.
On Jul 14, 2025 at 9:59:33 AM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
, , ,If I was running Germany, I'd make it a condition for admission to the
country, even as a refugee, that someone sit down with them and explain
(via an interpreter) that it is extremely offensive to German society to >>> molest women, describing all the different forms of molestation, and
that there will be major specified consequences if they do. Make sure
they repeat a detailed acknowledgement to that fact in their own
language, record it, and archive it, all keyed on their fingerprints or
other biometric. If they've done that - and satisfied all the other
rules for entry into Germany - they can come into Germany.
I would impart this clue by swinging a LART against the side of the head
as hard as possible. If the clue bounces without penetrating, then the
refugee or asylum seeker simply is not eligible for admission.
I'm sorry but someone who grew up in a religion and culture with such
contempt for women is not going to change his attitude of contempt just
from having such a discussion. The problem is that where they come from,
women have no autonomy and cannot go out in public without supervision
from a father, husband, brother, or other male relative. Furthermore,
they come from a sexually-repressed society.
They show up in Germany in which young women are free to walk around
unsupervised, who show a lot of skin and generally do not repress their
sexuality. The perpetrator who has likely never had sex sees nothing but
sinful behavior. These women are not human beings so raping them means
that the perpetrator has not committed a crime against a person.
And the German government responds by forgiving the rapist and telling its native born female citizens to start wearing hijabs and stop wearing shorts and crop tops and don't wear bikinis at public pools.
As it is everywhere in the West, the politicians say it's *our* duty to accommodate our culture to theirs. We're the ones who are supposed to change to make *them* happy, not the other way around.
If, at some future time, they are implicated in some kind of
molestation, whether it is pulling down a woman's swimsuit in the pool
or rape or anything else, their recording can be vital evidence in court >>> showing that they DID know that these behaviours were not cool and went
ahead anyway. Then they can be imprisoned and/or deported and no one can >>> play the "poor little lamb just didn't know it was wrong" card.
But it's not the perpetrator who is claiming that he cannot be
prosecuted for the criminal act on the basis of having grown up without
Western values. Those making the claim are Germans, who grew up WITH
Western values, who damn well know better.
On Jul 14, 2025 at 7:05:06 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-13 4:49 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 13, 2025 at 1:19:39 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>If I was running Germany, I'd make it a condition for admission to the
On 7/13/2025 3:17 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
Since allowing millions of practitioners of the Religion of Peace to flood.
into their country and enrich their culture by bringing their barbarity
with
them, the German government has been trying to tackle the problem of brown
men
sexually assaulting ethnic white German women just about everywhere. From
public parks and pools, to the subways, and right out on the street in
broad
daylight, German girls and women have had to endure the predations of the
Muslim men their government has so thoughtfully foisted upon them against
their will-- everything from public groping and butt pinches to outright
rape.
The government, like most European nations that are hell-bent on >>>>> committing
slow motion national suicide, has downplayed it whenever it happens and
the
courts officially excuse the perpetrators as simply 'culturally unaware'
that
rape is a no-no in Germany. In some notorious cases, Muslim men have been
sentenced to mere probation for not just groping but actually full-on >>>>> raping
women under this theory that they just don't know any better because they
come
from countries that are culturally frozen in the Dark Ages.
Now, however, the German government has decided to tackle this problem
head-on
with a public awareness campaign that consists of posters displayed in
public
places all over the country, advising that groping and sexual assault is a
nein-nein in Germany. The posters feature examples of this bad behavior in
action.
The only problem?
They depict real-German white people sexually assaulting the migrants,
instead
of the other way around, the way it really happens literally 100% of the
time:
https://ibb.co/jZkxY44y
https://ibb.co/nqrymCJM
https://ibb.co/rRVW6DMN
Apparently we were all hallucinating that the epidemic of male sexual >>>>> violence
in Germany was being committed by the sweet innocent illegal aliens. It's
really those horrible native German citizens who are assaulting the poor
vulnerable migrants.
Yes, there's an epidemic of middle-aged ginger hausfraus groping >>>>> Muhammed's
ass when he's just trying to enjoy a swim at the local pool.
Apparently, the
one-legged illegal aliens are especially vulnerable to being raped by evil
white women (and portly gay white men, too).
"...this theory that they just don't know any better because they come >>>> from countries that are culturally frozen in the Dark Ages."
What's your conflicting -- and better -- theory?
Well, if it's true that they honestly don't know that violently raping women
is wrong, if that's their cultural norm, then my position as a German
citizen
would be to STOP LETTING PEOPLE WHO HOLD THOSE VALUES INTO MY COUNTRY BY THE
MILLIONS.
How about we try that for a while and see how it works?
country, even as a refugee, that someone sit down with them and explain
(via an interpreter) that it is extremely offensive to German society to
molest women, describing all the different forms of molestation, and
that there will be major specified consequences if they do. Make sure
they repeat a detailed acknowledgement to that fact in their own
language, record it, and archive it, all keyed on their fingerprints or
other biometric. If they've done that - and satisfied all the other
rules for entry into Germany - they can come into Germany.
As I said before, none of that is really needed, at least right now. Germany (like France and England and Ireland and Sweden and Norway), already has far too many 3rd-world immigrants as it stands. It's crushing their society, bankrupting their health care and welfare systems and bringing in a culture that's antithetical to (and incompatible with) Western values.
So just stop importing people. Close the borders to immigrants for the next 10
years, then reevaluate and maybe open back up with the rules you suggest.
If, at some future time, they are implicated in some kind of
molestation, whether it is pulling down a woman's swimsuit in the pool
or rape or anything else, their recording can be vital evidence in court
showing that they DID know that these behaviours were not cool and went
ahead anyway. Then they can be imprisoned and/or deported and no one can
play the "poor little lamb just didn't know it was wrong" card.
On 7/14/2025 1:55 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 14, 2025 at 9:09:00 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 7/14/2025 9:54 AM, Rhino wrote:
The reality is actually worse than BTR is inferring. The offenders in >>>> these cases are told by their religion that women that don't dress
modestly (in hijabs, niqabs or burkas, depending on how strict their >>>> particular brand of Islam is) are prostitutes and aren't entitled
to any
respect from men. Pulling off their swimsuits - top or bottom - is
perfectly okay for any Allah-fearing man.
In their culture, women don't bathe with men and have their own
women-
only spaces for bathing and swimming. No Muslim woman will swim
(or walk
around outside the house) without having her hair covered because
Muslims apparently believe that men will be driven mad with lust
at the
sight of a woman's hair and the men can't be held responsible for
acting
on that lust.
A Western woman - any Western woman of any age - is begging to be
assaulted if she shows her hair or her bare arms or legs.
I remember seeing a video from Hamburg Germany a couple of years back >>>> where a 30-something migrant insisted on showing porn on his phone to >>>> the 70-something year old German woman sitting beside him on public >>>> transit. He kept trying to entice her into sexual activity with the >>>> German word "ficken", which means fuck in English.
I agree that such attitudes are so obscenely backward and inhuman that
its hard to see why they haven't expired from spontaneous neglect.
Otoh, since (e.g.) *we* condemn women who parade their boobs in a
supermarket, what qualitatively entitles us to cast principled stones?
We're qualified because it's *our* country and we're entitled to have
our own
culture and norms. Any immigrant who wants to come here must adjust to
us, not
us to him.
...which, afaics, boils down to "Might makes right".
On 7/14/2025 9:54 AM, Rhino wrote:
On 2025-07-13 4:19 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/13/2025 3:17 PM, BTR1701 wrote:The reality is actually worse than BTR is inferring. The offenders in
Since allowing millions of practitioners of the Religion of Peace to
flood
into their country and enrich their culture by bringing their
barbarity with
them, the German government has been trying to tackle the problem of
brown men
sexually assaulting ethnic white German women just about everywhere.
From
public parks and pools, to the subways, and right out on the street
in broad
daylight, German girls and women have had to endure the predations
of the
Muslim men their government has so thoughtfully foisted upon them
against
their will-- everything from public groping and butt pinches to
outright
rape.
The government, like most European nations that are hell-bent on
committing
slow motion national suicide, has downplayed it whenever it happens
and the
courts officially excuse the perpetrators as simply 'culturally
unaware' that
rape is a no-no in Germany. In some notorious cases, Muslim men have
been
sentenced to mere probation for not just groping but actually full-
on raping
women under this theory that they just don't know any better because
they come
from countries that are culturally frozen in the Dark Ages.
Now, however, the German government has decided to tackle this
problem head-on
with a public awareness campaign that consists of posters displayed
in public
places all over the country, advising that groping and sexual
assault is a
nein-nein in Germany. The posters feature examples of this bad
behavior in
action.
The only problem?
They depict real-German white people sexually assaulting the
migrants, instead
of the other way around, the way it really happens literally 100% of
the
time:
https://ibb.co/jZkxY44y
https://ibb.co/nqrymCJM
https://ibb.co/rRVW6DMN
Apparently we were all hallucinating that the epidemic of male
sexual violence
in Germany was being committed by the sweet innocent illegal aliens.
It's
really those horrible native German citizens who are assaulting the
poor
vulnerable migrants.
Yes, there's an epidemic of middle-aged ginger hausfraus groping
Muhammed's
ass when he's just trying to enjoy a swim at the local pool.
Apparently, the
one-legged illegal aliens are especially vulnerable to being raped
by evil
white women (and portly gay white men, too).
"...this theory that they just don't know any better because they come
from countries that are culturally frozen in the Dark Ages."
What's your conflicting -- and better -- theory?
these cases are told by their religion that women that don't dress
modestly (in hijabs, niqabs or burkas, depending on how strict their
particular brand of Islam is) are prostitutes and aren't entitled to
any respect from men. Pulling off their swimsuits - top or bottom - is
perfectly okay for any Allah-fearing man.
In their culture, women don't bathe with men and have their own women-
only spaces for bathing and swimming. No Muslim woman will swim (or
walk around outside the house) without having her hair covered because
Muslims apparently believe that men will be driven mad with lust at
the sight of a woman's hair and the men can't be held responsible for
acting on that lust.
A Western woman - any Western woman of any age - is begging to be
assaulted if she shows her hair or her bare arms or legs.
I remember seeing a video from Hamburg Germany a couple of years back
where a 30-something migrant insisted on showing porn on his phone to
the 70-something year old German woman sitting beside him on public
transit. He kept trying to entice her into sexual activity with the
German word "ficken", which means fuck in English.
I agree that such attitudes are so obscenely backward and inhuman that
its hard to see why they haven't expired from spontaneous neglect. Otoh, since (e.g.) *we* condemn women who parade their boobs in a supermarket,
what qualitatively entitles us to cast principled stones?
?? What's a LART?
On 2025-07-14 2:11 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/14/2025 1:55 PM, BTR1701 wrote:"The majority rules" is a lot closer to the justification that "might
On Jul 14, 2025 at 9:09:00 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 7/14/2025 9:54 AM, Rhino wrote:
The reality is actually worse than BTR is inferring. The
offenders in
these cases are told by their religion that women that don't dress >>>>> modestly (in hijabs, niqabs or burkas, depending on how strict their >>>>> particular brand of Islam is) are prostitutes and aren't entitled >>>>> to any
respect from men. Pulling off their swimsuits - top or bottom - is >>>>> perfectly okay for any Allah-fearing man.
In their culture, women don't bathe with men and have their own
women-
only spaces for bathing and swimming. No Muslim woman will swim
(or walk
around outside the house) without having her hair covered because >>>>> Muslims apparently believe that men will be driven mad with lust
at the
sight of a woman's hair and the men can't be held responsible for >>>>> acting
on that lust.
A Western woman - any Western woman of any age - is begging to be >>>>> assaulted if she shows her hair or her bare arms or legs.
I remember seeing a video from Hamburg Germany a couple of years
back
where a 30-something migrant insisted on showing porn on his
phone to
the 70-something year old German woman sitting beside him on public >>>>> transit. He kept trying to entice her into sexual activity with the >>>>> German word "ficken", which means fuck in English.
I agree that such attitudes are so obscenely backward and inhuman that >>>> its hard to see why they haven't expired from spontaneous neglect.
Otoh, since (e.g.) *we* condemn women who parade their boobs in a
supermarket, what qualitatively entitles us to cast principled stones?
We're qualified because it's *our* country and we're entitled to have
our own
culture and norms. Any immigrant who wants to come here must adjust
to us, not
us to him.
...which, afaics, boils down to "Might makes right".
makes right".
Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
?? What's a LART?
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/sysadmin-recovery/
See Section 11.4.
It's useful in educating computer users but must be swung in such a way
as to penetrate the skull without damaging the innocent computer.
On 2025-07-14 12:09 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/14/2025 9:54 AM, Rhino wrote:In my entire life, I have never seen a woman going topless in the
On 2025-07-13 4:19 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/13/2025 3:17 PM, BTR1701 wrote:The reality is actually worse than BTR is inferring. The offenders in
Since allowing millions of practitioners of the Religion of Peace
to flood
into their country and enrich their culture by bringing their
barbarity with
them, the German government has been trying to tackle the problem
of brown men
sexually assaulting ethnic white German women just about
everywhere. From
public parks and pools, to the subways, and right out on the street
in broad
daylight, German girls and women have had to endure the predations
of the
Muslim men their government has so thoughtfully foisted upon them
against
their will-- everything from public groping and butt pinches to
outright
rape.
The government, like most European nations that are hell-bent on
committing
slow motion national suicide, has downplayed it whenever it happens
and the
courts officially excuse the perpetrators as simply 'culturally
unaware' that
rape is a no-no in Germany. In some notorious cases, Muslim men
have been
sentenced to mere probation for not just groping but actually full-
on raping
women under this theory that they just don't know any better
because they come
from countries that are culturally frozen in the Dark Ages.
Now, however, the German government has decided to tackle this
problem head-on
with a public awareness campaign that consists of posters displayed
in public
places all over the country, advising that groping and sexual
assault is a
nein-nein in Germany. The posters feature examples of this bad
behavior in
action.
The only problem?
They depict real-German white people sexually assaulting the
migrants, instead
of the other way around, the way it really happens literally 100%
of the
time:
https://ibb.co/jZkxY44y
https://ibb.co/nqrymCJM
https://ibb.co/rRVW6DMN
Apparently we were all hallucinating that the epidemic of male
sexual violence
in Germany was being committed by the sweet innocent illegal
aliens. It's
really those horrible native German citizens who are assaulting the
poor
vulnerable migrants.
Yes, there's an epidemic of middle-aged ginger hausfraus groping
Muhammed's
ass when he's just trying to enjoy a swim at the local pool.
Apparently, the
one-legged illegal aliens are especially vulnerable to being raped
by evil
white women (and portly gay white men, too).
"...this theory that they just don't know any better because they come >>>> from countries that are culturally frozen in the Dark Ages."
What's your conflicting -- and better -- theory?
these cases are told by their religion that women that don't dress
modestly (in hijabs, niqabs or burkas, depending on how strict their
particular brand of Islam is) are prostitutes and aren't entitled to
any respect from men. Pulling off their swimsuits - top or bottom -
is perfectly okay for any Allah-fearing man.
In their culture, women don't bathe with men and have their own
women- only spaces for bathing and swimming. No Muslim woman will
swim (or walk around outside the house) without having her hair
covered because Muslims apparently believe that men will be driven
mad with lust at the sight of a woman's hair and the men can't be
held responsible for acting on that lust.
A Western woman - any Western woman of any age - is begging to be
assaulted if she shows her hair or her bare arms or legs.
I remember seeing a video from Hamburg Germany a couple of years back
where a 30-something migrant insisted on showing porn on his phone to
the 70-something year old German woman sitting beside him on public
transit. He kept trying to entice her into sexual activity with the
German word "ficken", which means fuck in English.
I agree that such attitudes are so obscenely backward and inhuman that
its hard to see why they haven't expired from spontaneous neglect.
Otoh, since (e.g.) *we* condemn women who parade their boobs in a
supermarket, what qualitatively entitles us to cast principled stones?
supermarket so I really don't know what you're talking about. I haven't
even heard women cluck to each other in semi-whispers about another
woman who is showing more than the average amount of boob.
For what it's worth, a woman in Guelph, Ontario effectively made it
legal for women to go topless whenever they wanted (in Ontario) about 30 years ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_toplessness_in_Canada
In any case, what do your remarks even have to do with Muslim men
harassing women? You acknowledge that these are barbaric behaviours but
you still seem to be hunting for some excuse for this behaviour. It
seems like you're trying to root that excuse in some perceived hypocrisy among Westerners.
On Jul 14, 2025 at 1:11:44 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 7/14/2025 2:43 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 14, 2025 at 11:11:57 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 7/14/2025 1:55 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 14, 2025 at 9:09:00 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 7/14/2025 9:54 AM, Rhino wrote:
The reality is actually worse than BTR is inferring. The offenders in
these cases are told by their religion that women that don't dress
modestly (in hijabs, niqabs or burkas, depending on how strict their
particular brand of Islam is) are prostitutes and aren't entitled to any
respect from men. Pulling off their swimsuits - top or bottom - is
perfectly okay for any Allah-fearing man.
In their culture, women don't bathe with men and have their own women-
only spaces for bathing and swimming. No Muslim woman will swim (or walk
around outside the house) without having her hair covered because >>>>>>> Muslims apparently believe that men will be driven mad with lust at the
sight of a woman's hair and the men can't be held responsible for acting
on that lust.
A Western woman - any Western woman of any age - is begging to be >>>>>>> assaulted if she shows her hair or her bare arms or legs.
I remember seeing a video from Hamburg Germany a couple of years back
where a 30-something migrant insisted on showing porn on his phone to
the 70-something year old German woman sitting beside him on public
transit. He kept trying to entice her into sexual activity with the
German word "ficken", which means fuck in English.
I agree that such attitudes are so obscenely backward and inhuman that
its hard to see why they haven't expired from spontaneous neglect. >>>>>> Otoh, since (e.g.) *we* condemn women who parade their boobs in a >>>>>> supermarket, what qualitatively entitles us to cast principled stones?
We're qualified because it's *our* country and we're entitled to have our
own
culture and norms. Any immigrant who wants to come here must adjust to us,
not
us to him.
...which, afaics, boils down to "Might makes right".
No, it boils down to "If you don't like our country, culture, and norms, >>> you're free to go elsewhere or stay where you are."
But yes, we have the right and ability to decide who's allowed into our >>> country and who's not because we have the strength to enforce it. If we >>> didn't, they'd be called "invaders", not "immigrants", and it would be >>> *them*
who'd have the might.
We have any right we can enforce?
When it comes to who's entering our country, you'd best believe it.
On 7/14/2025 5:00 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2025-07-14 12:09 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/14/2025 9:54 AM, Rhino wrote:In my entire life, I have never seen a woman going topless in the
On 2025-07-13 4:19 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/13/2025 3:17 PM, BTR1701 wrote:The reality is actually worse than BTR is inferring. The offenders
Since allowing millions of practitioners of the Religion of Peace
to flood
into their country and enrich their culture by bringing their
barbarity with
them, the German government has been trying to tackle the problem
of brown men
sexually assaulting ethnic white German women just about
everywhere. From
public parks and pools, to the subways, and right out on the
street in broad
daylight, German girls and women have had to endure the predations >>>>>> of the
Muslim men their government has so thoughtfully foisted upon them
against
their will-- everything from public groping and butt pinches to
outright
rape.
The government, like most European nations that are hell-bent on
committing
slow motion national suicide, has downplayed it whenever it
happens and the
courts officially excuse the perpetrators as simply 'culturally
unaware' that
rape is a no-no in Germany. In some notorious cases, Muslim men
have been
sentenced to mere probation for not just groping but actually
full- on raping
women under this theory that they just don't know any better
because they come
from countries that are culturally frozen in the Dark Ages.
Now, however, the German government has decided to tackle this
problem head-on
with a public awareness campaign that consists of posters
displayed in public
places all over the country, advising that groping and sexual
assault is a
nein-nein in Germany. The posters feature examples of this bad
behavior in
action.
The only problem?
They depict real-German white people sexually assaulting the
migrants, instead
of the other way around, the way it really happens literally 100%
of the
time:
https://ibb.co/jZkxY44y
https://ibb.co/nqrymCJM
https://ibb.co/rRVW6DMN
Apparently we were all hallucinating that the epidemic of male
sexual violence
in Germany was being committed by the sweet innocent illegal
aliens. It's
really those horrible native German citizens who are assaulting
the poor
vulnerable migrants.
Yes, there's an epidemic of middle-aged ginger hausfraus groping
Muhammed's
ass when he's just trying to enjoy a swim at the local pool.
Apparently, the
one-legged illegal aliens are especially vulnerable to being raped >>>>>> by evil
white women (and portly gay white men, too).
"...this theory that they just don't know any better because they come >>>>> from countries that are culturally frozen in the Dark Ages."
What's your conflicting -- and better -- theory?
in these cases are told by their religion that women that don't
dress modestly (in hijabs, niqabs or burkas, depending on how strict
their particular brand of Islam is) are prostitutes and aren't
entitled to any respect from men. Pulling off their swimsuits - top
or bottom - is perfectly okay for any Allah-fearing man.
In their culture, women don't bathe with men and have their own
women- only spaces for bathing and swimming. No Muslim woman will
swim (or walk around outside the house) without having her hair
covered because Muslims apparently believe that men will be driven
mad with lust at the sight of a woman's hair and the men can't be
held responsible for acting on that lust.
A Western woman - any Western woman of any age - is begging to be
assaulted if she shows her hair or her bare arms or legs.
I remember seeing a video from Hamburg Germany a couple of years
back where a 30-something migrant insisted on showing porn on his
phone to the 70-something year old German woman sitting beside him
on public transit. He kept trying to entice her into sexual activity
with the German word "ficken", which means fuck in English.
I agree that such attitudes are so obscenely backward and inhuman
that its hard to see why they haven't expired from spontaneous
neglect. Otoh, since (e.g.) *we* condemn women who parade their boobs
in a supermarket, what qualitatively entitles us to cast principled
stones?
supermarket so I really don't know what you're talking about. I
haven't even heard women cluck to each other in semi-whispers about
another woman who is showing more than the average amount of boob.
For what it's worth, a woman in Guelph, Ontario effectively made it
legal for women to go topless whenever they wanted (in Ontario) about
30 years ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_toplessness_in_Canada
In any case, what do your remarks even have to do with Muslim men
harassing women? You acknowledge that these are barbaric behaviours
but you still seem to be hunting for some excuse for this behaviour.
It seems like you're trying to root that excuse in some perceived
hypocrisy among Westerners.
I'm trying to point out that *our* mores aren't without "barbarisms".
On 2025-07-14 5:44 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/14/2025 5:00 PM, Rhino wrote:No culture is perfect. In other breaking news, water is wet and it's
On 2025-07-14 12:09 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/14/2025 9:54 AM, Rhino wrote:In my entire life, I have never seen a woman going topless in the
On 2025-07-13 4:19 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/13/2025 3:17 PM, BTR1701 wrote:The reality is actually worse than BTR is inferring. The offenders
Since allowing millions of practitioners of the Religion of Peace >>>>>>> to flood
into their country and enrich their culture by bringing their
barbarity with
them, the German government has been trying to tackle the problem >>>>>>> of brown men
sexually assaulting ethnic white German women just about
everywhere. From
public parks and pools, to the subways, and right out on the
street in broad
daylight, German girls and women have had to endure the
predations of the
Muslim men their government has so thoughtfully foisted upon them >>>>>>> against
their will-- everything from public groping and butt pinches to
outright
rape.
The government, like most European nations that are hell-bent on >>>>>>> committing
slow motion national suicide, has downplayed it whenever it
happens and the
courts officially excuse the perpetrators as simply 'culturally
unaware' that
rape is a no-no in Germany. In some notorious cases, Muslim men
have been
sentenced to mere probation for not just groping but actually
full- on raping
women under this theory that they just don't know any better
because they come
from countries that are culturally frozen in the Dark Ages.
Now, however, the German government has decided to tackle this
problem head-on
with a public awareness campaign that consists of posters
displayed in public
places all over the country, advising that groping and sexual
assault is a
nein-nein in Germany. The posters feature examples of this bad
behavior in
action.
The only problem?
They depict real-German white people sexually assaulting the
migrants, instead
of the other way around, the way it really happens literally 100% >>>>>>> of the
time:
https://ibb.co/jZkxY44y
https://ibb.co/nqrymCJM
https://ibb.co/rRVW6DMN
Apparently we were all hallucinating that the epidemic of male
sexual violence
in Germany was being committed by the sweet innocent illegal
aliens. It's
really those horrible native German citizens who are assaulting
the poor
vulnerable migrants.
Yes, there's an epidemic of middle-aged ginger hausfraus groping >>>>>>> Muhammed's
ass when he's just trying to enjoy a swim at the local pool.
Apparently, the
one-legged illegal aliens are especially vulnerable to being
raped by evil
white women (and portly gay white men, too).
"...this theory that they just don't know any better because they
come
from countries that are culturally frozen in the Dark Ages."
What's your conflicting -- and better -- theory?
in these cases are told by their religion that women that don't
dress modestly (in hijabs, niqabs or burkas, depending on how
strict their particular brand of Islam is) are prostitutes and
aren't entitled to any respect from men. Pulling off their
swimsuits - top or bottom - is perfectly okay for any Allah-fearing
man.
In their culture, women don't bathe with men and have their own
women- only spaces for bathing and swimming. No Muslim woman will
swim (or walk around outside the house) without having her hair
covered because Muslims apparently believe that men will be driven
mad with lust at the sight of a woman's hair and the men can't be
held responsible for acting on that lust.
A Western woman - any Western woman of any age - is begging to be
assaulted if she shows her hair or her bare arms or legs.
I remember seeing a video from Hamburg Germany a couple of years
back where a 30-something migrant insisted on showing porn on his
phone to the 70-something year old German woman sitting beside him
on public transit. He kept trying to entice her into sexual
activity with the German word "ficken", which means fuck in English.
I agree that such attitudes are so obscenely backward and inhuman
that its hard to see why they haven't expired from spontaneous
neglect. Otoh, since (e.g.) *we* condemn women who parade their
boobs in a supermarket, what qualitatively entitles us to cast
principled stones?
supermarket so I really don't know what you're talking about. I
haven't even heard women cluck to each other in semi-whispers about
another woman who is showing more than the average amount of boob.
For what it's worth, a woman in Guelph, Ontario effectively made it
legal for women to go topless whenever they wanted (in Ontario) about
30 years ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_toplessness_in_Canada
In any case, what do your remarks even have to do with Muslim men
harassing women? You acknowledge that these are barbaric behaviours
but you still seem to be hunting for some excuse for this behaviour.
It seems like you're trying to root that excuse in some perceived
hypocrisy among Westerners.
I'm trying to point out that *our* mores aren't without "barbarisms".
going to be dark out tonight.
On 7/14/2025 6:10 PM, Rhino wrote:
No culture is perfect. In other breaking news, water is wet and it's
going to be dark out tonight.
On 7/14/2025 6:10 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2025-07-14 5:44 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/14/2025 5:00 PM, Rhino wrote:No culture is perfect. In other breaking news, water is wet and it's
On 2025-07-14 12:09 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/14/2025 9:54 AM, Rhino wrote:In my entire life, I have never seen a woman going topless in the
On 2025-07-13 4:19 PM, moviePig wrote:I agree that such attitudes are so obscenely backward and inhuman
On 7/13/2025 3:17 PM, BTR1701 wrote:The reality is actually worse than BTR is inferring. The offenders >>>>>> in these cases are told by their religion that women that don't
Since allowing millions of practitioners of the Religion of
Peace to flood
into their country and enrich their culture by bringing their
barbarity with
them, the German government has been trying to tackle the
problem of brown men
sexually assaulting ethnic white German women just about
everywhere. From
public parks and pools, to the subways, and right out on the
street in broad
daylight, German girls and women have had to endure the
predations of the
Muslim men their government has so thoughtfully foisted upon
them against
their will-- everything from public groping and butt pinches to >>>>>>>> outright
rape.
The government, like most European nations that are hell-bent on >>>>>>>> committing
slow motion national suicide, has downplayed it whenever it
happens and the
courts officially excuse the perpetrators as simply 'culturally >>>>>>>> unaware' that
rape is a no-no in Germany. In some notorious cases, Muslim men >>>>>>>> have been
sentenced to mere probation for not just groping but actually
full- on raping
women under this theory that they just don't know any better
because they come
from countries that are culturally frozen in the Dark Ages.
Now, however, the German government has decided to tackle this >>>>>>>> problem head-on
with a public awareness campaign that consists of posters
displayed in public
places all over the country, advising that groping and sexual
assault is a
nein-nein in Germany. The posters feature examples of this bad >>>>>>>> behavior in
action.
The only problem?
They depict real-German white people sexually assaulting the
migrants, instead
of the other way around, the way it really happens literally
100% of the
time:
https://ibb.co/jZkxY44y
https://ibb.co/nqrymCJM
https://ibb.co/rRVW6DMN
Apparently we were all hallucinating that the epidemic of male >>>>>>>> sexual violence
in Germany was being committed by the sweet innocent illegal
aliens. It's
really those horrible native German citizens who are assaulting >>>>>>>> the poor
vulnerable migrants.
Yes, there's an epidemic of middle-aged ginger hausfraus groping >>>>>>>> Muhammed's
ass when he's just trying to enjoy a swim at the local pool.
Apparently, the
one-legged illegal aliens are especially vulnerable to being
raped by evil
white women (and portly gay white men, too).
"...this theory that they just don't know any better because they >>>>>>> come
from countries that are culturally frozen in the Dark Ages."
What's your conflicting -- and better -- theory?
dress modestly (in hijabs, niqabs or burkas, depending on how
strict their particular brand of Islam is) are prostitutes and
aren't entitled to any respect from men. Pulling off their
swimsuits - top or bottom - is perfectly okay for any Allah-
fearing man.
In their culture, women don't bathe with men and have their own
women- only spaces for bathing and swimming. No Muslim woman will
swim (or walk around outside the house) without having her hair
covered because Muslims apparently believe that men will be driven >>>>>> mad with lust at the sight of a woman's hair and the men can't be
held responsible for acting on that lust.
A Western woman - any Western woman of any age - is begging to be
assaulted if she shows her hair or her bare arms or legs.
I remember seeing a video from Hamburg Germany a couple of years
back where a 30-something migrant insisted on showing porn on his
phone to the 70-something year old German woman sitting beside him >>>>>> on public transit. He kept trying to entice her into sexual
activity with the German word "ficken", which means fuck in English. >>>>>
that its hard to see why they haven't expired from spontaneous
neglect. Otoh, since (e.g.) *we* condemn women who parade their
boobs in a supermarket, what qualitatively entitles us to cast
principled stones?
supermarket so I really don't know what you're talking about. I
haven't even heard women cluck to each other in semi-whispers about
another woman who is showing more than the average amount of boob.
For what it's worth, a woman in Guelph, Ontario effectively made it
legal for women to go topless whenever they wanted (in Ontario)
about 30 years ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_toplessness_in_Canada
In any case, what do your remarks even have to do with Muslim men
harassing women? You acknowledge that these are barbaric behaviours
but you still seem to be hunting for some excuse for this behaviour.
It seems like you're trying to root that excuse in some perceived
hypocrisy among Westerners.
I'm trying to point out that *our* mores aren't without "barbarisms".
going to be dark out tonight.
The trick is to bear that in mind when punching down in culture wars.
On 2025-07-14 2:11 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/14/2025 1:55 PM, BTR1701 wrote:"The majority rules" is a lot closer to the justification that "might
On Jul 14, 2025 at 9:09:00 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>
On 7/14/2025 9:54 AM, Rhino wrote:We're qualified because it's *our* country and we're entitled to have
The reality is actually worse than BTR is inferring. The offenders in >>>>> these cases are told by their religion that women that don't dress >>>>> modestly (in hijabs, niqabs or burkas, depending on how strict their >>>>> particular brand of Islam is) are prostitutes and aren't entitled >>>>> to any
respect from men. Pulling off their swimsuits - top or bottom - is >>>>> perfectly okay for any Allah-fearing man.
In their culture, women don't bathe with men and have their own
women-
only spaces for bathing and swimming. No Muslim woman will swim
(or walk
around outside the house) without having her hair covered because >>>>> Muslims apparently believe that men will be driven mad with lust >>>>> at the
sight of a woman's hair and the men can't be held responsible for >>>>> acting
on that lust.
A Western woman - any Western woman of any age - is begging to be >>>>> assaulted if she shows her hair or her bare arms or legs.
I remember seeing a video from Hamburg Germany a couple of years back >>>>> where a 30-something migrant insisted on showing porn on his phone to >>>>> the 70-something year old German woman sitting beside him on public >>>>> transit. He kept trying to entice her into sexual activity with the >>>>> German word "ficken", which means fuck in English.
I agree that such attitudes are so obscenely backward and inhuman that >>>> its hard to see why they haven't expired from spontaneous neglect.
Otoh, since (e.g.) *we* condemn women who parade their boobs in a
supermarket, what qualitatively entitles us to cast principled stones? >>>
our own
culture and norms. Any immigrant who wants to come here must adjust to
us, not
us to him.
...which, afaics, boils down to "Might makes right".
makes right".
On 7/14/2025 4:38 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 14, 2025 at 1:11:44 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>
On 7/14/2025 2:43 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 14, 2025 at 11:11:57 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 7/14/2025 1:55 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 14, 2025 at 9:09:00 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> >>>>>> wrote:
On 7/14/2025 9:54 AM, Rhino wrote:
The reality is actually worse than BTR is inferring. The offenders in
these cases are told by their religion that women that don't dress
modestly (in hijabs, niqabs or burkas, depending on how strict their
particular brand of Islam is) are prostitutes and aren't >>>>>>>> entitled to any
respect from men. Pulling off their swimsuits - top or bottom - is
perfectly okay for any Allah-fearing man.
In their culture, women don't bathe with men and have their own women-
only spaces for bathing and swimming. No Muslim woman will swim >>>>>>>> (or walk
around outside the house) without having her hair covered because
Muslims apparently believe that men will be driven mad with >>>>>>>> lust at the
sight of a woman's hair and the men can't be held responsible >>>>>>>> for acting
on that lust.
A Western woman - any Western woman of any age - is begging to be
assaulted if she shows her hair or her bare arms or legs. >>>>>>>>
I remember seeing a video from Hamburg Germany a couple of years back
where a 30-something migrant insisted on showing porn on his phone to
the 70-something year old German woman sitting beside him on public
transit. He kept trying to entice her into sexual activity with the
German word "ficken", which means fuck in English.
I agree that such attitudes are so obscenely backward and inhuman that
its hard to see why they haven't expired from spontaneous neglect. >>>>>>> Otoh, since (e.g.) *we* condemn women who parade their boobs in a >>>>>>> supermarket, what qualitatively entitles us to cast principled stones?
We're qualified because it's *our* country and we're entitled to >>>>>> have our
own
culture and norms. Any immigrant who wants to come here must adjust >>>>>> to us,
not
us to him.
...which, afaics, boils down to "Might makes right".
No, it boils down to "If you don't like our country, culture, and norms,
you're free to go elsewhere or stay where you are."
But yes, we have the right and ability to decide who's allowed into our >>>> country and who's not because we have the strength to enforce it. If we >>>> didn't, they'd be called "invaders", not "immigrants", and it would be >>>> *them*
who'd have the might.
We have any right we can enforce?
When it comes to who's entering our country, you'd best believe it.
When/where does that rule *not* apply?
On 7/14/2025 6:10 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2025-07-14 5:44 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/14/2025 5:00 PM, Rhino wrote:No culture is perfect. In other breaking news, water is wet and it's
On 2025-07-14 12:09 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/14/2025 9:54 AM, Rhino wrote:In my entire life, I have never seen a woman going topless in the
I agree that such attitudes are so obscenely backward and inhuman
that its hard to see why they haven't expired from spontaneous
neglect. Otoh, since (e.g.) *we* condemn women who parade their
boobs in a supermarket, what qualitatively entitles us to cast
principled stones?
supermarket so I really don't know what you're talking about. I
haven't even heard women cluck to each other in semi-whispers about
another woman who is showing more than the average amount of boob.
For what it's worth, a woman in Guelph, Ontario effectively made it
legal for women to go topless whenever they wanted (in Ontario) about >>>> 30 years ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_toplessness_in_Canada
In any case, what do your remarks even have to do with Muslim men
harassing women? You acknowledge that these are barbaric behaviours
but you still seem to be hunting for some excuse for this behaviour.
It seems like you're trying to root that excuse in some perceived
hypocrisy among Westerners.
I'm trying to point out that *our* mores aren't without "barbarisms".
going to be dark out tonight.
The trick is to bear that in mind when punching down in culture wars.
On 7/14/2025 5:00 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2025-07-14 12:09 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/14/2025 9:54 AM, Rhino wrote:In my entire life, I have never seen a woman going topless in the
On 2025-07-13 4:19 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/13/2025 3:17 PM, BTR1701 wrote:The reality is actually worse than BTR is inferring. The offenders in >>>> these cases are told by their religion that women that don't dress
Since allowing millions of practitioners of the Religion of Peace >>>>>> to flood
into their country and enrich their culture by bringing their
barbarity with
them, the German government has been trying to tackle the problem >>>>>> of brown men
sexually assaulting ethnic white German women just about
everywhere. From
public parks and pools, to the subways, and right out on the street >>>>>> in broad
daylight, German girls and women have had to endure the predations >>>>>> of the
Muslim men their government has so thoughtfully foisted upon them >>>>>> against
their will-- everything from public groping and butt pinches to
outright
rape.
The government, like most European nations that are hell-bent on
committing
slow motion national suicide, has downplayed it whenever it happens >>>>>> and the
courts officially excuse the perpetrators as simply 'culturally
unaware' that
rape is a no-no in Germany. In some notorious cases, Muslim men
have been
sentenced to mere probation for not just groping but actually full- >>>>>> on raping
women under this theory that they just don't know any better
because they come
from countries that are culturally frozen in the Dark Ages.
Now, however, the German government has decided to tackle this
problem head-on
with a public awareness campaign that consists of posters displayed >>>>>> in public
places all over the country, advising that groping and sexual
assault is a
nein-nein in Germany. The posters feature examples of this bad
behavior in
action.
The only problem?
They depict real-German white people sexually assaulting the
migrants, instead
of the other way around, the way it really happens literally 100% >>>>>> of the
time:
https://ibb.co/jZkxY44y
https://ibb.co/nqrymCJM
https://ibb.co/rRVW6DMN
Apparently we were all hallucinating that the epidemic of male
sexual violence
in Germany was being committed by the sweet innocent illegal
aliens. It's
really those horrible native German citizens who are assaulting the >>>>>> poor
vulnerable migrants.
Yes, there's an epidemic of middle-aged ginger hausfraus groping
Muhammed's
ass when he's just trying to enjoy a swim at the local pool.
Apparently, the
one-legged illegal aliens are especially vulnerable to being raped >>>>>> by evil
white women (and portly gay white men, too).
"...this theory that they just don't know any better because they come >>>>> from countries that are culturally frozen in the Dark Ages."
What's your conflicting -- and better -- theory?
modestly (in hijabs, niqabs or burkas, depending on how strict their
particular brand of Islam is) are prostitutes and aren't entitled to
any respect from men. Pulling off their swimsuits - top or bottom -
is perfectly okay for any Allah-fearing man.
In their culture, women don't bathe with men and have their own
women- only spaces for bathing and swimming. No Muslim woman will
swim (or walk around outside the house) without having her hair
covered because Muslims apparently believe that men will be driven
mad with lust at the sight of a woman's hair and the men can't be
held responsible for acting on that lust.
A Western woman - any Western woman of any age - is begging to be
assaulted if she shows her hair or her bare arms or legs.
I remember seeing a video from Hamburg Germany a couple of years back >>>> where a 30-something migrant insisted on showing porn on his phone to >>>> the 70-something year old German woman sitting beside him on public
transit. He kept trying to entice her into sexual activity with the
German word "ficken", which means fuck in English.
I agree that such attitudes are so obscenely backward and inhuman that
its hard to see why they haven't expired from spontaneous neglect.
Otoh, since (e.g.) *we* condemn women who parade their boobs in a
supermarket, what qualitatively entitles us to cast principled stones?
supermarket so I really don't know what you're talking about. I haven't
even heard women cluck to each other in semi-whispers about another
woman who is showing more than the average amount of boob.
For what it's worth, a woman in Guelph, Ontario effectively made it
legal for women to go topless whenever they wanted (in Ontario) about 30
years ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_toplessness_in_Canada
In any case, what do your remarks even have to do with Muslim men
harassing women? You acknowledge that these are barbaric behaviours but
you still seem to be hunting for some excuse for this behaviour. It
seems like you're trying to root that excuse in some perceived hypocrisy
among Westerners.
I'm trying to point out that *our* mores aren't without "barbarisms".
On Jul 14, 2025 at 3:43:16 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 7/14/2025 6:10 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2025-07-14 5:44 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/14/2025 5:00 PM, Rhino wrote:No culture is perfect. In other breaking news, water is wet and it's
On 2025-07-14 12:09 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/14/2025 9:54 AM, Rhino wrote:In my entire life, I have never seen a woman going topless in the
I agree that such attitudes are so obscenely backward and inhuman >>>>>> that its hard to see why they haven't expired from spontaneous
neglect. Otoh, since (e.g.) *we* condemn women who parade their
boobs in a supermarket, what qualitatively entitles us to cast
principled stones?
supermarket so I really don't know what you're talking about. I
haven't even heard women cluck to each other in semi-whispers about >>>>> another woman who is showing more than the average amount of boob.
For what it's worth, a woman in Guelph, Ontario effectively made it >>>>> legal for women to go topless whenever they wanted (in Ontario) about >>>>> 30 years ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_toplessness_in_Canada
In any case, what do your remarks even have to do with Muslim men
harassing women? You acknowledge that these are barbaric behaviours >>>>> but you still seem to be hunting for some excuse for this behaviour. >>>>> It seems like you're trying to root that excuse in some perceived
hypocrisy among Westerners.
I'm trying to point out that *our* mores aren't without "barbarisms". >>>>
going to be dark out tonight.
The trick is to bear that in mind when punching down in culture wars.
This is typically where the Islam apologist will shout, "Christians are just >as bad. What about the Inquisition?!?"
The proper response to which is, if you find yourself always having to reach >back centuries, if not millennia, to find analogous Christian examples to >counter modern Muslim barbarity, you should do some serious self-examination.
On Jul 14, 2025 at 2:46:25 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 7/14/2025 4:38 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 14, 2025 at 1:11:44 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>
On 7/14/2025 2:43 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 14, 2025 at 11:11:57 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 7/14/2025 1:55 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 14, 2025 at 9:09:00 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 7/14/2025 9:54 AM, Rhino wrote:
The reality is actually worse than BTR is inferring. The offenders in
these cases are told by their religion that women that don't dress
modestly (in hijabs, niqabs or burkas, depending on how strict their
particular brand of Islam is) are prostitutes and aren't >>>>>>>>> entitled to any
respect from men. Pulling off their swimsuits - top or bottom - is
perfectly okay for any Allah-fearing man.
In their culture, women don't bathe with men and have their own women-
only spaces for bathing and swimming. No Muslim woman will swim
(or walk
around outside the house) without having her hair covered because
Muslims apparently believe that men will be driven mad with >>>>>>>>> lust at the
sight of a woman's hair and the men can't be held responsible >>>>>>>>> for acting
on that lust.
A Western woman - any Western woman of any age - is begging to be
assaulted if she shows her hair or her bare arms or legs. >>>>>>>>>
I remember seeing a video from Hamburg Germany a couple of years back
where a 30-something migrant insisted on showing porn on his phone to
the 70-something year old German woman sitting beside him on public
transit. He kept trying to entice her into sexual activity with the
German word "ficken", which means fuck in English.
I agree that such attitudes are so obscenely backward and inhuman that
its hard to see why they haven't expired from spontaneous neglect.
Otoh, since (e.g.) *we* condemn women who parade their boobs in a
supermarket, what qualitatively entitles us to cast principled stones?
We're qualified because it's *our* country and we're entitled to >>>>>>> have our
own
culture and norms. Any immigrant who wants to come here must adjust
to us,
not
us to him.
...which, afaics, boils down to "Might makes right".
No, it boils down to "If you don't like our country, culture, and norms,
you're free to go elsewhere or stay where you are."
But yes, we have the right and ability to decide who's allowed into our
country and who's not because we have the strength to enforce it. If we
didn't, they'd be called "invaders", not "immigrants", and it would be
*them*
who'd have the might.
We have any right we can enforce?
When it comes to who's entering our country, you'd best believe it.
When/where does that rule *not* apply?
It applies to everywhere and all the time. Why would you think it would apply only at certain border crossings or at certain times?
On Jul 14, 2025 at 2:01:52 PM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-14 2:11 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/14/2025 1:55 PM, BTR1701 wrote:"The majority rules" is a lot closer to the justification that "might
On Jul 14, 2025 at 9:09:00 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 7/14/2025 9:54 AM, Rhino wrote:We're qualified because it's *our* country and we're entitled to have >>>> our own
The reality is actually worse than BTR is inferring. The offenders in
these cases are told by their religion that women that don't dress >>>>>> modestly (in hijabs, niqabs or burkas, depending on how strict their
particular brand of Islam is) are prostitutes and aren't entitled >>>>>> to any
respect from men. Pulling off their swimsuits - top or bottom - is >>>>>> perfectly okay for any Allah-fearing man.
In their culture, women don't bathe with men and have their own >>>>>> women-
only spaces for bathing and swimming. No Muslim woman will swim >>>>>> (or walk
around outside the house) without having her hair covered because >>>>>> Muslims apparently believe that men will be driven mad with lust >>>>>> at the
sight of a woman's hair and the men can't be held responsible for >>>>>> acting
on that lust.
A Western woman - any Western woman of any age - is begging to be >>>>>> assaulted if she shows her hair or her bare arms or legs.
I remember seeing a video from Hamburg Germany a couple of years back
where a 30-something migrant insisted on showing porn on his phone to
the 70-something year old German woman sitting beside him on public >>>>>> transit. He kept trying to entice her into sexual activity with the >>>>>> German word "ficken", which means fuck in English.
I agree that such attitudes are so obscenely backward and inhuman that >>>>> its hard to see why they haven't expired from spontaneous neglect. >>>>> Otoh, since (e.g.) *we* condemn women who parade their boobs in a
supermarket, what qualitatively entitles us to cast principled stones? >>>>
culture and norms. Any immigrant who wants to come here must adjust to >>>> us, not
us to him.
...which, afaics, boils down to "Might makes right".
makes right".
Yeah, isn't it weird how that 'democracy' they're always so worked up about 'saving' goes right out the window when it doesn't help the Agenda?
On 2025-07-14 6:43 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/14/2025 6:10 PM, Rhino wrote:So because our culture is imperfect, we're not allowed to set any
On 2025-07-14 5:44 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/14/2025 5:00 PM, Rhino wrote:No culture is perfect. In other breaking news, water is wet and it's
On 2025-07-14 12:09 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/14/2025 9:54 AM, Rhino wrote:In my entire life, I have never seen a woman going topless in the
On 2025-07-13 4:19 PM, moviePig wrote:I agree that such attitudes are so obscenely backward and inhuman
On 7/13/2025 3:17 PM, BTR1701 wrote:The reality is actually worse than BTR is inferring. The
Since allowing millions of practitioners of the Religion of
Peace to flood
into their country and enrich their culture by bringing their >>>>>>>>> barbarity with
them, the German government has been trying to tackle the
problem of brown men
sexually assaulting ethnic white German women just about
everywhere. From
public parks and pools, to the subways, and right out on the >>>>>>>>> street in broad
daylight, German girls and women have had to endure the
predations of the
Muslim men their government has so thoughtfully foisted upon >>>>>>>>> them against
their will-- everything from public groping and butt pinches to >>>>>>>>> outright
rape.
The government, like most European nations that are hell-bent >>>>>>>>> on committing
slow motion national suicide, has downplayed it whenever it
happens and the
courts officially excuse the perpetrators as simply 'culturally >>>>>>>>> unaware' that
rape is a no-no in Germany. In some notorious cases, Muslim men >>>>>>>>> have been
sentenced to mere probation for not just groping but actually >>>>>>>>> full- on raping
women under this theory that they just don't know any better >>>>>>>>> because they come
from countries that are culturally frozen in the Dark Ages.
Now, however, the German government has decided to tackle this >>>>>>>>> problem head-on
with a public awareness campaign that consists of posters
displayed in public
places all over the country, advising that groping and sexual >>>>>>>>> assault is a
nein-nein in Germany. The posters feature examples of this bad >>>>>>>>> behavior in
action.
The only problem?
They depict real-German white people sexually assaulting the >>>>>>>>> migrants, instead
of the other way around, the way it really happens literally >>>>>>>>> 100% of the
time:
https://ibb.co/jZkxY44y
https://ibb.co/nqrymCJM
https://ibb.co/rRVW6DMN
Apparently we were all hallucinating that the epidemic of male >>>>>>>>> sexual violence
in Germany was being committed by the sweet innocent illegal >>>>>>>>> aliens. It's
really those horrible native German citizens who are assaulting >>>>>>>>> the poor
vulnerable migrants.
Yes, there's an epidemic of middle-aged ginger hausfraus
groping Muhammed's
ass when he's just trying to enjoy a swim at the local pool. >>>>>>>>> Apparently, the
one-legged illegal aliens are especially vulnerable to being >>>>>>>>> raped by evil
white women (and portly gay white men, too).
"...this theory that they just don't know any better because
they come
from countries that are culturally frozen in the Dark Ages."
What's your conflicting -- and better -- theory?
offenders in these cases are told by their religion that women
that don't dress modestly (in hijabs, niqabs or burkas, depending >>>>>>> on how strict their particular brand of Islam is) are prostitutes >>>>>>> and aren't entitled to any respect from men. Pulling off their
swimsuits - top or bottom - is perfectly okay for any Allah-
fearing man.
In their culture, women don't bathe with men and have their own
women- only spaces for bathing and swimming. No Muslim woman will >>>>>>> swim (or walk around outside the house) without having her hair
covered because Muslims apparently believe that men will be
driven mad with lust at the sight of a woman's hair and the men
can't be held responsible for acting on that lust.
A Western woman - any Western woman of any age - is begging to be >>>>>>> assaulted if she shows her hair or her bare arms or legs.
I remember seeing a video from Hamburg Germany a couple of years >>>>>>> back where a 30-something migrant insisted on showing porn on his >>>>>>> phone to the 70-something year old German woman sitting beside
him on public transit. He kept trying to entice her into sexual
activity with the German word "ficken", which means fuck in English. >>>>>>
that its hard to see why they haven't expired from spontaneous
neglect. Otoh, since (e.g.) *we* condemn women who parade their
boobs in a supermarket, what qualitatively entitles us to cast
principled stones?
supermarket so I really don't know what you're talking about. I
haven't even heard women cluck to each other in semi-whispers about
another woman who is showing more than the average amount of boob.
For what it's worth, a woman in Guelph, Ontario effectively made it
legal for women to go topless whenever they wanted (in Ontario)
about 30 years ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_toplessness_in_Canada
In any case, what do your remarks even have to do with Muslim men
harassing women? You acknowledge that these are barbaric behaviours
but you still seem to be hunting for some excuse for this
behaviour. It seems like you're trying to root that excuse in some
perceived hypocrisy among Westerners.
I'm trying to point out that *our* mores aren't without "barbarisms".
going to be dark out tonight.
The trick is to bear that in mind when punching down in culture wars.
standards for anyone from a different culture until our own is perfect
first?
In other words the molestation and rape can carry on unabated and
unpunished because we're not perfect yet?
On Jul 14, 2025 at 3:43:16 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 7/14/2025 6:10 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2025-07-14 5:44 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/14/2025 5:00 PM, Rhino wrote:No culture is perfect. In other breaking news, water is wet and it's
On 2025-07-14 12:09 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/14/2025 9:54 AM, Rhino wrote:In my entire life, I have never seen a woman going topless in the
I agree that such attitudes are so obscenely backward and inhuman >>>>>> that its hard to see why they haven't expired from spontaneous
neglect. Otoh, since (e.g.) *we* condemn women who parade their
boobs in a supermarket, what qualitatively entitles us to cast
principled stones?
supermarket so I really don't know what you're talking about. I
haven't even heard women cluck to each other in semi-whispers about >>>>> another woman who is showing more than the average amount of boob. >>>>>
For what it's worth, a woman in Guelph, Ontario effectively made it >>>>> legal for women to go topless whenever they wanted (in Ontario) about >>>>> 30 years ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_toplessness_in_Canada
In any case, what do your remarks even have to do with Muslim men
harassing women? You acknowledge that these are barbaric behaviours >>>>> but you still seem to be hunting for some excuse for this behaviour. >>>>> It seems like you're trying to root that excuse in some perceived
hypocrisy among Westerners.
I'm trying to point out that *our* mores aren't without "barbarisms". >>>>
going to be dark out tonight.
The trick is to bear that in mind when punching down in culture wars.
This is typically where the Islam apologist will shout, "Christians are just as bad. What about the Inquisition?!?"
The proper response to which is, if you find yourself always having to reach back centuries, if not millennia, to find analogous Christian examples to counter modern Muslim barbarity, you should do some serious self-examination.
On Jul 14, 2025 at 2:44:48 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 7/14/2025 5:00 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2025-07-14 12:09 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/14/2025 9:54 AM, Rhino wrote:In my entire life, I have never seen a woman going topless in the
On 2025-07-13 4:19 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/13/2025 3:17 PM, BTR1701 wrote:The reality is actually worse than BTR is inferring. The offenders in >>>>> these cases are told by their religion that women that don't dress >>>>> modestly (in hijabs, niqabs or burkas, depending on how strict their >>>>> particular brand of Islam is) are prostitutes and aren't entitled to >>>>> any respect from men. Pulling off their swimsuits - top or bottom - >>>>> is perfectly okay for any Allah-fearing man.
Since allowing millions of practitioners of the Religion of Peace >>>>>>> to flood
into their country and enrich their culture by bringing their
barbarity with
them, the German government has been trying to tackle the problem >>>>>>> of brown men
sexually assaulting ethnic white German women just about
everywhere. From
public parks and pools, to the subways, and right out on the street >>>>>>> in broad
daylight, German girls and women have had to endure the predations >>>>>>> of the
Muslim men their government has so thoughtfully foisted upon them >>>>>>> against
their will-- everything from public groping and butt pinches to >>>>>>> outright
rape.
The government, like most European nations that are hell-bent on >>>>>>> committing
slow motion national suicide, has downplayed it whenever it happens >>>>>>> and the
courts officially excuse the perpetrators as simply 'culturally >>>>>>> unaware' that
rape is a no-no in Germany. In some notorious cases, Muslim men >>>>>>> have been
sentenced to mere probation for not just groping but actually full- >>>>>>> on raping
women under this theory that they just don't know any better
because they come
from countries that are culturally frozen in the Dark Ages.
Now, however, the German government has decided to tackle this >>>>>>> problem head-on
with a public awareness campaign that consists of posters displayed >>>>>>> in public
places all over the country, advising that groping and sexual
assault is a
nein-nein in Germany. The posters feature examples of this bad >>>>>>> behavior in
action.
The only problem?
They depict real-German white people sexually assaulting the
migrants, instead
of the other way around, the way it really happens literally 100% >>>>>>> of the
time:
https://ibb.co/jZkxY44y
https://ibb.co/nqrymCJM
https://ibb.co/rRVW6DMN
Apparently we were all hallucinating that the epidemic of male >>>>>>> sexual violence
in Germany was being committed by the sweet innocent illegal
aliens. It's
really those horrible native German citizens who are assaulting the >>>>>>> poor
vulnerable migrants.
Yes, there's an epidemic of middle-aged ginger hausfraus groping >>>>>>> Muhammed's
ass when he's just trying to enjoy a swim at the local pool.
Apparently, the
one-legged illegal aliens are especially vulnerable to being raped >>>>>>> by evil
white women (and portly gay white men, too).
"...this theory that they just don't know any better because they come >>>>>> from countries that are culturally frozen in the Dark Ages."
What's your conflicting -- and better -- theory?
In their culture, women don't bathe with men and have their own
women- only spaces for bathing and swimming. No Muslim woman will
swim (or walk around outside the house) without having her hair
covered because Muslims apparently believe that men will be driven >>>>> mad with lust at the sight of a woman's hair and the men can't be
held responsible for acting on that lust.
A Western woman - any Western woman of any age - is begging to be
assaulted if she shows her hair or her bare arms or legs.
I remember seeing a video from Hamburg Germany a couple of years back >>>>> where a 30-something migrant insisted on showing porn on his phone to >>>>> the 70-something year old German woman sitting beside him on public >>>>> transit. He kept trying to entice her into sexual activity with the >>>>> German word "ficken", which means fuck in English.
I agree that such attitudes are so obscenely backward and inhuman that >>>> its hard to see why they haven't expired from spontaneous neglect.
Otoh, since (e.g.) *we* condemn women who parade their boobs in a
supermarket, what qualitatively entitles us to cast principled stones? >>>>
supermarket so I really don't know what you're talking about. I haven't >>> even heard women cluck to each other in semi-whispers about another
woman who is showing more than the average amount of boob.
For what it's worth, a woman in Guelph, Ontario effectively made it
legal for women to go topless whenever they wanted (in Ontario) about 30 >>> years ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_toplessness_in_Canada
In any case, what do your remarks even have to do with Muslim men
harassing women? You acknowledge that these are barbaric behaviours but >>> you still seem to be hunting for some excuse for this behaviour. It
seems like you're trying to root that excuse in some perceived hypocrisy >>> among Westerners.
I'm trying to point out that *our* mores aren't without "barbarisms".
A woman walking around topless is not a barbarism-- well, maybe it is in the case of rhinoceroses on THE VIEW-- in a discussion about cultures that rewards
blowing children to smithereens and throws gay people off high buildings and stones women to death for having had the bad luck to be gang-raped.
On 7/14/2025 10:50 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 14, 2025 at 2:01:52 PM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> >> wrote:
On 2025-07-14 2:11 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/14/2025 1:55 PM, BTR1701 wrote:"The majority rules" is a lot closer to the justification that "might
On Jul 14, 2025 at 9:09:00 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 7/14/2025 9:54 AM, Rhino wrote:
The reality is actually worse than BTR is inferring. The offenders in
these cases are told by their religion that women that don't dress
modestly (in hijabs, niqabs or burkas, depending on how strict their
particular brand of Islam is) are prostitutes and aren't entitled >>>>>>> to any
respect from men. Pulling off their swimsuits - top or bottom - is
perfectly okay for any Allah-fearing man.
In their culture, women don't bathe with men and have their own >>>>>>> women-
only spaces for bathing and swimming. No Muslim woman will swim >>>>>>> (or walk
around outside the house) without having her hair covered because >>>>>>> Muslims apparently believe that men will be driven mad with lust >>>>>>> at the
sight of a woman's hair and the men can't be held responsible for >>>>>>> acting
on that lust.
A Western woman - any Western woman of any age - is begging to be >>>>>>> assaulted if she shows her hair or her bare arms or legs.
I remember seeing a video from Hamburg Germany a couple of years back
where a 30-something migrant insisted on showing porn on his phone to
the 70-something year old German woman sitting beside him on public
transit. He kept trying to entice her into sexual activity with the
German word "ficken", which means fuck in English.
I agree that such attitudes are so obscenely backward and inhuman that
its hard to see why they haven't expired from spontaneous neglect. >>>>>> Otoh, since (e.g.) *we* condemn women who parade their boobs in a >>>>>> supermarket, what qualitatively entitles us to cast principled stones?
We're qualified because it's *our* country and we're entitled to have >>>>> our own
culture and norms. Any immigrant who wants to come here must adjust to >>>>> us, not
us to him.
...which, afaics, boils down to "Might makes right".
makes right".
Yeah, isn't it weird how that 'democracy' they're always so worked up about >> 'saving' goes right out the window when it doesn't help the Agenda?
Especially weird, since I've personally never seen "the Agenda".
On 7/14/2025 10:49 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 14, 2025 at 2:46:25 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>
On 7/14/2025 4:38 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 14, 2025 at 1:11:44 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 7/14/2025 2:43 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 14, 2025 at 11:11:57 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> >>>>>> wrote:
On 7/14/2025 1:55 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 14, 2025 at 9:09:00 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 7/14/2025 9:54 AM, Rhino wrote:
I agree that such attitudes are so obscenely backward and inhuman thatThe reality is actually worse than BTR is inferring. The >>>>>>>>>> offenders in
these cases are told by their religion that women that don't dress
modestly (in hijabs, niqabs or burkas, depending on how strict their
particular brand of Islam is) are prostitutes and aren't >>>>>>>>>> entitled to any
respect from men. Pulling off their swimsuits - top or bottom - is
perfectly okay for any Allah-fearing man.
In their culture, women don't bathe with men and have their >>>>>>>>>> own women-
only spaces for bathing and swimming. No Muslim woman will swim
(or walk
around outside the house) without having her hair covered because
Muslims apparently believe that men will be driven mad with >>>>>>>>>> lust at the
sight of a woman's hair and the men can't be held responsible
for acting
on that lust.
A Western woman - any Western woman of any age - is begging to be
assaulted if she shows her hair or her bare arms or legs. >>>>>>>>>>
I remember seeing a video from Hamburg Germany a couple of >>>>>>>>>> years back
where a 30-something migrant insisted on showing porn on >>>>>>>>>> his phone to
the 70-something year old German woman sitting beside him on public
transit. He kept trying to entice her into sexual activity with the
German word "ficken", which means fuck in English. >>>>>>>>>
its hard to see why they haven't expired from spontaneous neglect.
Otoh, since (e.g.) *we* condemn women who parade their boobs in a
supermarket, what qualitatively entitles us to cast principled stones?
We're qualified because it's *our* country and we're entitled to
have our
own
culture and norms. Any immigrant who wants to come here must adjust
to us,
not
us to him.
...which, afaics, boils down to "Might makes right".
No, it boils down to "If you don't like our country, culture, and norms,
you're free to go elsewhere or stay where you are."
But yes, we have the right and ability to decide who's allowed into our
country and who's not because we have the strength to enforce it. If we
didn't, they'd be called "invaders", not "immigrants", and it would be
*them*
who'd have the might.
We have any right we can enforce?
When it comes to who's entering our country, you'd best believe it.
When/where does that rule *not* apply?
It applies to everywhere and all the time. Why would you think it would
apply
only at certain border crossings or at certain times?
The 'rule' I'm questioning is an ethical one: "If you can enforce it,
you have a right to it." You say that rule certainly applies to "who's entering our country", so I'm wondering where it *doesn't* apply.
On 7/14/2025 11:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 14, 2025 at 3:43:16 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>
On 7/14/2025 6:10 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2025-07-14 5:44 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/14/2025 5:00 PM, Rhino wrote:No culture is perfect. In other breaking news, water is wet and it's >>>> going to be dark out tonight.
On 2025-07-14 12:09 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/14/2025 9:54 AM, Rhino wrote:In my entire life, I have never seen a woman going topless in the >>>>>> supermarket so I really don't know what you're talking about. I >>>>>> haven't even heard women cluck to each other in semi-whispers about >>>>>> another woman who is showing more than the average amount of boob. >>>>>>
I agree that such attitudes are so obscenely backward and inhuman >>>>>>> that its hard to see why they haven't expired from spontaneous >>>>>>> neglect. Otoh, since (e.g.) *we* condemn women who parade their >>>>>>> boobs in a supermarket, what qualitatively entitles us to cast >>>>>>> principled stones?
For what it's worth, a woman in Guelph, Ontario effectively made it >>>>>> legal for women to go topless whenever they wanted (in Ontario) about >>>>>> 30 years ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_toplessness_in_Canada
In any case, what do your remarks even have to do with Muslim men >>>>>> harassing women? You acknowledge that these are barbaric behaviours >>>>>> but you still seem to be hunting for some excuse for this behaviour. >>>>>> It seems like you're trying to root that excuse in some perceived >>>>>> hypocrisy among Westerners.
I'm trying to point out that *our* mores aren't without "barbarisms". >>>>>
The trick is to bear that in mind when punching down in culture wars.
This is typically where the Islam apologist will shout, "Christians are just
as bad. What about the Inquisition?!?"
The proper response to which is, if you find yourself always having to reach
back centuries, if not millennia, to find analogous Christian examples to >> counter modern Muslim barbarity, you should do some serious
self-examination.
Debates that reach into religion can't be won.
On Jul 15, 2025 at 8:44:17 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 7/14/2025 11:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 14, 2025 at 3:43:16 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>
On 7/14/2025 6:10 PM, Rhino wrote:This is typically where the Islam apologist will shout, "Christians are just
On 2025-07-14 5:44 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/14/2025 5:00 PM, Rhino wrote:No culture is perfect. In other breaking news, water is wet and it's >>>>> going to be dark out tonight.
On 2025-07-14 12:09 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/14/2025 9:54 AM, Rhino wrote:In my entire life, I have never seen a woman going topless in the >>>>>>> supermarket so I really don't know what you're talking about. I >>>>>>> haven't even heard women cluck to each other in semi-whispers about >>>>>>> another woman who is showing more than the average amount of boob. >>>>>>>
I agree that such attitudes are so obscenely backward and inhuman >>>>>>>> that its hard to see why they haven't expired from spontaneous >>>>>>>> neglect. Otoh, since (e.g.) *we* condemn women who parade their >>>>>>>> boobs in a supermarket, what qualitatively entitles us to cast >>>>>>>> principled stones?
For what it's worth, a woman in Guelph, Ontario effectively made it >>>>>>> legal for women to go topless whenever they wanted (in Ontario) about
30 years ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_toplessness_in_Canada
In any case, what do your remarks even have to do with Muslim men >>>>>>> harassing women? You acknowledge that these are barbaric behaviours >>>>>>> but you still seem to be hunting for some excuse for this behaviour.
It seems like you're trying to root that excuse in some perceived >>>>>>> hypocrisy among Westerners.
I'm trying to point out that *our* mores aren't without "barbarisms".
The trick is to bear that in mind when punching down in culture wars. >>>
as bad. What about the Inquisition?!?"
The proper response to which is, if you find yourself always having to reach
back centuries, if not millennia, to find analogous Christian examples to >>> counter modern Muslim barbarity, you should do some serious
self-examination.
Debates that reach into religion can't be won.
But they certainly don't have to include importing the practitioners of those religions into your neighborhoods if they're going to be given official exemption from your laws and cultural norms due to their 'cultural ignorance'.
On Jul 15, 2025 at 8:27:11 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 7/14/2025 10:50 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 14, 2025 at 2:01:52 PM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com>
wrote:
On 2025-07-14 2:11 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/14/2025 1:55 PM, BTR1701 wrote:"The majority rules" is a lot closer to the justification that "might >>>> makes right".
On Jul 14, 2025 at 9:09:00 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 7/14/2025 9:54 AM, Rhino wrote:
The reality is actually worse than BTR is inferring. The offenders in
these cases are told by their religion that women that don't dress
modestly (in hijabs, niqabs or burkas, depending on how strict their
particular brand of Islam is) are prostitutes and aren't entitled
to any
respect from men. Pulling off their swimsuits - top or bottom - is
perfectly okay for any Allah-fearing man.
In their culture, women don't bathe with men and have their own >>>>>>>> women-
only spaces for bathing and swimming. No Muslim woman will swim >>>>>>>> (or walk
around outside the house) without having her hair covered because
Muslims apparently believe that men will be driven mad with lust
at the
sight of a woman's hair and the men can't be held responsible for
acting
on that lust.
A Western woman - any Western woman of any age - is begging to be
assaulted if she shows her hair or her bare arms or legs. >>>>>>>> I remember seeing a video from Hamburg Germany a couple of years back
where a 30-something migrant insisted on showing porn on his phone to
the 70-something year old German woman sitting beside him on public
transit. He kept trying to entice her into sexual activity with the
German word "ficken", which means fuck in English.
I agree that such attitudes are so obscenely backward and inhuman that
its hard to see why they haven't expired from spontaneous neglect. >>>>>>> Otoh, since (e.g.) *we* condemn women who parade their boobs in a >>>>>>> supermarket, what qualitatively entitles us to cast principled stones?
We're qualified because it's *our* country and we're entitled to have
our own
culture and norms. Any immigrant who wants to come here must adjust to
us, not
us to him.
...which, afaics, boils down to "Might makes right".
Yeah, isn't it weird how that 'democracy' they're always so worked up about
'saving' goes right out the window when it doesn't help the Agenda?
Especially weird, since I've personally never seen "the Agenda".
And yet you still manage to hew to it with great enthusiasm.
On 7/15/2025 3:20 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 15, 2025 at 8:44:17 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>
On 7/14/2025 11:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 14, 2025 at 3:43:16 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 7/14/2025 6:10 PM, Rhino wrote:This is typically where the Islam apologist will shout, "Christians are >>>> just
On 2025-07-14 5:44 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/14/2025 5:00 PM, Rhino wrote:No culture is perfect. In other breaking news, water is wet and it's
On 2025-07-14 12:09 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/14/2025 9:54 AM, Rhino wrote:In my entire life, I have never seen a woman going topless in the >>>>>>>> supermarket so I really don't know what you're talking about. I >>>>>>>> haven't even heard women cluck to each other in semi-whispers about
I agree that such attitudes are so obscenely backward and inhuman
that its hard to see why they haven't expired from spontaneous >>>>>>>>> neglect. Otoh, since (e.g.) *we* condemn women who parade their >>>>>>>>> boobs in a supermarket, what qualitatively entitles us to cast >>>>>>>>> principled stones?
another woman who is showing more than the average amount of boob.
For what it's worth, a woman in Guelph, Ontario effectively made it
legal for women to go topless whenever they wanted (in Ontario) about
30 years ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_toplessness_in_Canada >>>>>>>>
In any case, what do your remarks even have to do with Muslim men >>>>>>>> harassing women? You acknowledge that these are barbaric behaviours
but you still seem to be hunting for some excuse for this behaviour.
It seems like you're trying to root that excuse in some perceived >>>>>>>> hypocrisy among Westerners.
I'm trying to point out that *our* mores aren't without "barbarisms".
going to be dark out tonight.
The trick is to bear that in mind when punching down in culture wars. >>>>
as bad. What about the Inquisition?!?"
The proper response to which is, if you find yourself always having to >>>> reach
back centuries, if not millennia, to find analogous Christian examples to
counter modern Muslim barbarity, you should do some serious
self-examination.
Debates that reach into religion can't be won.
But they certainly don't have to include importing the practitioners of
those
religions into your neighborhoods if they're going to be given official
exemption from your laws and cultural norms due to their 'cultural
ignorance'.
Our government, by long tradition, doesn't recognize specific religions.
On Jul 15, 2025 at 1:57:05 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 7/15/2025 3:20 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 15, 2025 at 8:44:17 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>
On 7/14/2025 11:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 14, 2025 at 3:43:16 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 7/14/2025 6:10 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2025-07-14 5:44 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/14/2025 5:00 PM, Rhino wrote:No culture is perfect. In other breaking news, water is wet and it's
On 2025-07-14 12:09 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/14/2025 9:54 AM, Rhino wrote:In my entire life, I have never seen a woman going topless in the
I agree that such attitudes are so obscenely backward and inhuman
that its hard to see why they haven't expired from spontaneous >>>>>>>>>> neglect. Otoh, since (e.g.) *we* condemn women who parade their
boobs in a supermarket, what qualitatively entitles us to cast >>>>>>>>>> principled stones?
supermarket so I really don't know what you're talking about. I >>>>>>>>> haven't even heard women cluck to each other in semi-whispers about
another woman who is showing more than the average amount of boob.
For what it's worth, a woman in Guelph, Ontario effectively made it
legal for women to go topless whenever they wanted (in Ontario) about
30 years ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_toplessness_in_Canada >>>>>>>>>
In any case, what do your remarks even have to do with Muslim men
harassing women? You acknowledge that these are barbaric behaviours
but you still seem to be hunting for some excuse for this behaviour.
It seems like you're trying to root that excuse in some perceived
hypocrisy among Westerners.
I'm trying to point out that *our* mores aren't without "barbarisms".
going to be dark out tonight.
The trick is to bear that in mind when punching down in culture wars.
This is typically where the Islam apologist will shout, "Christians are
just
as bad. What about the Inquisition?!?"
The proper response to which is, if you find yourself always having to
reach
back centuries, if not millennia, to find analogous Christian examples to
counter modern Muslim barbarity, you should do some serious
self-examination.
Debates that reach into religion can't be won.
But they certainly don't have to include importing the practitioners of >>> those
religions into your neighborhoods if they're going to be given official >>> exemption from your laws and cultural norms due to their 'cultural
ignorance'.
Our government, by long tradition, doesn't recognize specific religions.
But it can recognize actions.
On 7/15/2025 5:15 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 15, 2025 at 1:57:05 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>
On 7/15/2025 3:20 PM, BTR1701 wrote:But it can recognize actions.
On Jul 15, 2025 at 8:44:17 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 7/14/2025 11:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 14, 2025 at 3:43:16 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> >>>>>> wrote:
On 7/14/2025 6:10 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2025-07-14 5:44 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/14/2025 5:00 PM, Rhino wrote:No culture is perfect. In other breaking news, water is wet and it's
On 2025-07-14 12:09 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/14/2025 9:54 AM, Rhino wrote:In my entire life, I have never seen a woman going topless in the
I agree that such attitudes are so obscenely backward and inhuman
that its hard to see why they haven't expired from spontaneous
neglect. Otoh, since (e.g.) *we* condemn women who parade their
boobs in a supermarket, what qualitatively entitles us to cast
principled stones?
supermarket so I really don't know what you're talking about. I
haven't even heard women cluck to each other in semi-whispers about
another woman who is showing more than the average amount of boob.
For what it's worth, a woman in Guelph, Ontario effectively made it
legal for women to go topless whenever they wanted (in Ontario) about
30 years ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_toplessness_in_Canada >>>>>>>>>>
In any case, what do your remarks even have to do with Muslim men
harassing women? You acknowledge that these are barbaric behaviours
but you still seem to be hunting for some excuse for this behaviour.
It seems like you're trying to root that excuse in some perceived
hypocrisy among Westerners.
I'm trying to point out that *our* mores aren't without "barbarisms".
going to be dark out tonight.
The trick is to bear that in mind when punching down in culture wars.
This is typically where the Islam apologist will shout, "Christians are
just
as bad. What about the Inquisition?!?"
The proper response to which is, if you find yourself always having to
reach
back centuries, if not millennia, to find analogous Christian >>>>>> examples to
counter modern Muslim barbarity, you should do some serious
self-examination.
Debates that reach into religion can't be won.
But they certainly don't have to include importing the practitioners of >>>> those
religions into your neighborhoods if they're going to be given official >>>> exemption from your laws and cultural norms due to their 'cultural
ignorance'.
Our government, by long tradition, doesn't recognize specific religions. >>
Actions, hairstyle, BMI, etc. ...just not religion.
On 7/14/2025 9:33 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2025-07-14 6:43 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/14/2025 6:10 PM, Rhino wrote:So because our culture is imperfect, we're not allowed to set any
On 2025-07-14 5:44 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/14/2025 5:00 PM, Rhino wrote:No culture is perfect. In other breaking news, water is wet and it's
On 2025-07-14 12:09 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/14/2025 9:54 AM, Rhino wrote:In my entire life, I have never seen a woman going topless in the
On 2025-07-13 4:19 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/13/2025 3:17 PM, BTR1701 wrote:The reality is actually worse than BTR is inferring. The
Since allowing millions of practitioners of the Religion of >>>>>>>>>> Peace to flood
into their country and enrich their culture by bringing their >>>>>>>>>> barbarity with
them, the German government has been trying to tackle the
problem of brown men
sexually assaulting ethnic white German women just about
everywhere. From
public parks and pools, to the subways, and right out on the >>>>>>>>>> street in broad
daylight, German girls and women have had to endure the
predations of the
Muslim men their government has so thoughtfully foisted upon >>>>>>>>>> them against
their will-- everything from public groping and butt pinches >>>>>>>>>> to outright
rape.
The government, like most European nations that are hell-bent >>>>>>>>>> on committing
slow motion national suicide, has downplayed it whenever it >>>>>>>>>> happens and the
courts officially excuse the perpetrators as simply
'culturally unaware' that
rape is a no-no in Germany. In some notorious cases, Muslim >>>>>>>>>> men have been
sentenced to mere probation for not just groping but actually >>>>>>>>>> full- on raping
women under this theory that they just don't know any better >>>>>>>>>> because they come
from countries that are culturally frozen in the Dark Ages. >>>>>>>>>>
Now, however, the German government has decided to tackle this >>>>>>>>>> problem head-on
with a public awareness campaign that consists of posters
displayed in public
places all over the country, advising that groping and sexual >>>>>>>>>> assault is a
nein-nein in Germany. The posters feature examples of this bad >>>>>>>>>> behavior in
action.
The only problem?
They depict real-German white people sexually assaulting the >>>>>>>>>> migrants, instead
of the other way around, the way it really happens literally >>>>>>>>>> 100% of the
time:
https://ibb.co/jZkxY44y
https://ibb.co/nqrymCJM
https://ibb.co/rRVW6DMN
Apparently we were all hallucinating that the epidemic of male >>>>>>>>>> sexual violence
in Germany was being committed by the sweet innocent illegal >>>>>>>>>> aliens. It's
really those horrible native German citizens who are
assaulting the poor
vulnerable migrants.
Yes, there's an epidemic of middle-aged ginger hausfraus
groping Muhammed's
ass when he's just trying to enjoy a swim at the local pool. >>>>>>>>>> Apparently, the
one-legged illegal aliens are especially vulnerable to being >>>>>>>>>> raped by evil
white women (and portly gay white men, too).
"...this theory that they just don't know any better because >>>>>>>>> they come
from countries that are culturally frozen in the Dark Ages." >>>>>>>>>
What's your conflicting -- and better -- theory?
offenders in these cases are told by their religion that women >>>>>>>> that don't dress modestly (in hijabs, niqabs or burkas,
depending on how strict their particular brand of Islam is) are >>>>>>>> prostitutes and aren't entitled to any respect from men. Pulling >>>>>>>> off their swimsuits - top or bottom - is perfectly okay for any >>>>>>>> Allah- fearing man.
In their culture, women don't bathe with men and have their own >>>>>>>> women- only spaces for bathing and swimming. No Muslim woman
will swim (or walk around outside the house) without having her >>>>>>>> hair covered because Muslims apparently believe that men will be >>>>>>>> driven mad with lust at the sight of a woman's hair and the men >>>>>>>> can't be held responsible for acting on that lust.
A Western woman - any Western woman of any age - is begging to >>>>>>>> be assaulted if she shows her hair or her bare arms or legs.
I remember seeing a video from Hamburg Germany a couple of years >>>>>>>> back where a 30-something migrant insisted on showing porn on
his phone to the 70-something year old German woman sitting
beside him on public transit. He kept trying to entice her into >>>>>>>> sexual activity with the German word "ficken", which means fuck >>>>>>>> in English.
I agree that such attitudes are so obscenely backward and inhuman >>>>>>> that its hard to see why they haven't expired from spontaneous
neglect. Otoh, since (e.g.) *we* condemn women who parade their
boobs in a supermarket, what qualitatively entitles us to cast
principled stones?
supermarket so I really don't know what you're talking about. I
haven't even heard women cluck to each other in semi-whispers
about another woman who is showing more than the average amount of >>>>>> boob.
For what it's worth, a woman in Guelph, Ontario effectively made
it legal for women to go topless whenever they wanted (in Ontario) >>>>>> about 30 years ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_toplessness_in_Canada
In any case, what do your remarks even have to do with Muslim men
harassing women? You acknowledge that these are barbaric
behaviours but you still seem to be hunting for some excuse for
this behaviour. It seems like you're trying to root that excuse in >>>>>> some perceived hypocrisy among Westerners.
I'm trying to point out that *our* mores aren't without "barbarisms". >>>>>
going to be dark out tonight.
The trick is to bear that in mind when punching down in culture wars.
standards for anyone from a different culture until our own is perfect
first?
In other words the molestation and rape can carry on unabated and
unpunished because we're not perfect yet?
Whose "other words" are those? What I continually suggest is that we carefully examine any stance based on our "moral superiority".
On 7/14/2025 10:52 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 14, 2025 at 2:44:48 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 7/14/2025 5:00 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2025-07-14 12:09 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/14/2025 9:54 AM, Rhino wrote:In my entire life, I have never seen a woman going topless in the
On 2025-07-13 4:19 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/13/2025 3:17 PM, BTR1701 wrote:The reality is actually worse than BTR is inferring. The
Since allowing millions of practitioners of the Religion of Peace >>>>>>>> to flood
into their country and enrich their culture by bringing their >>>>>>>> barbarity with
them, the German government has been trying to tackle the problem >>>>>>>> of brown men
sexually assaulting ethnic white German women just about
everywhere. From
public parks and pools, to the subways, and right out on the >>>>>>>> street
in broad
daylight, German girls and women have had to endure the
predations
of the
Muslim men their government has so thoughtfully foisted upon them >>>>>>>> against
their will-- everything from public groping and butt pinches to >>>>>>>> outright
rape.
The government, like most European nations that are hell-bent on >>>>>>>> committing
slow motion national suicide, has downplayed it whenever it >>>>>>>> happens
and the
courts officially excuse the perpetrators as simply 'culturally >>>>>>>> unaware' that
rape is a no-no in Germany. In some notorious cases, Muslim men >>>>>>>> have been
sentenced to mere probation for not just groping but actually >>>>>>>> full-
on raping
women under this theory that they just don't know any better >>>>>>>> because they come
from countries that are culturally frozen in the Dark Ages. >>>>>>>>
Now, however, the German government has decided to tackle this >>>>>>>> problem head-on
with a public awareness campaign that consists of posters
displayed
in public
places all over the country, advising that groping and sexual >>>>>>>> assault is a
nein-nein in Germany. The posters feature examples of this bad >>>>>>>> behavior in
action.
The only problem?
They depict real-German white people sexually assaulting the >>>>>>>> migrants, instead
of the other way around, the way it really happens literally 100% >>>>>>>> of the
time:
https://ibb.co/jZkxY44y
https://ibb.co/nqrymCJM
https://ibb.co/rRVW6DMN
Apparently we were all hallucinating that the epidemic of male >>>>>>>> sexual violence
in Germany was being committed by the sweet innocent illegal >>>>>>>> aliens. It's
really those horrible native German citizens who are
assaulting the
poor
vulnerable migrants.
Yes, there's an epidemic of middle-aged ginger hausfraus groping >>>>>>>> Muhammed's
ass when he's just trying to enjoy a swim at the local pool. >>>>>>>> Apparently, the
one-legged illegal aliens are especially vulnerable to being >>>>>>>> raped
by evil
white women (and portly gay white men, too).
"...this theory that they just don't know any better because
they come
from countries that are culturally frozen in the Dark Ages."
What's your conflicting -- and better -- theory?
offenders in
these cases are told by their religion that women that don't dress >>>>>> modestly (in hijabs, niqabs or burkas, depending on how strict
their
particular brand of Islam is) are prostitutes and aren't
entitled to
any respect from men. Pulling off their swimsuits - top or bottom - >>>>>> is perfectly okay for any Allah-fearing man.
In their culture, women don't bathe with men and have their own >>>>>> women- only spaces for bathing and swimming. No Muslim woman will >>>>>> swim (or walk around outside the house) without having her hair >>>>>> covered because Muslims apparently believe that men will be driven >>>>>> mad with lust at the sight of a woman's hair and the men can't be >>>>>> held responsible for acting on that lust.
A Western woman - any Western woman of any age - is begging to be >>>>>> assaulted if she shows her hair or her bare arms or legs.
I remember seeing a video from Hamburg Germany a couple of years >>>>>> back
where a 30-something migrant insisted on showing porn on his
phone to
the 70-something year old German woman sitting beside him on public >>>>>> transit. He kept trying to entice her into sexual activity with the >>>>>> German word "ficken", which means fuck in English.
I agree that such attitudes are so obscenely backward and inhuman >>>>> that
its hard to see why they haven't expired from spontaneous neglect. >>>>> Otoh, since (e.g.) *we* condemn women who parade their boobs in a >>>>> supermarket, what qualitatively entitles us to cast principled
stones?
supermarket so I really don't know what you're talking about. I
haven't
even heard women cluck to each other in semi-whispers about another >>>> woman who is showing more than the average amount of boob.
For what it's worth, a woman in Guelph, Ontario effectively made it >>>> legal for women to go topless whenever they wanted (in Ontario)
about 30
years ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_toplessness_in_Canada
In any case, what do your remarks even have to do with Muslim men
harassing women? You acknowledge that these are barbaric
behaviours but
you still seem to be hunting for some excuse for this behaviour. It >>>> seems like you're trying to root that excuse in some perceived
hypocrisy
among Westerners.J
I'm trying to point out that *our* mores aren't without "barbarisms".
A woman walking around topless is not a barbarism-- well, maybe it is
in the
case of rhinoceroses on THE VIEW-- in a discussion about cultures that
rewards
blowing children to smithereens and throws gay people off high
buildings and
stones women to death for having had the bad luck to be gang-raped.
Where logic is concerned, a rule against going topless is indeed a
barbarism (...unless you open the social-discomfort can of worms).
On Jul 15, 2025 at 2:48:13 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 7/15/2025 5:15 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 15, 2025 at 1:57:05 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>
On 7/15/2025 3:20 PM, BTR1701 wrote:But it can recognize actions.
On Jul 15, 2025 at 8:44:17 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 7/14/2025 11:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 14, 2025 at 3:43:16 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 7/14/2025 6:10 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2025-07-14 5:44 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/14/2025 5:00 PM, Rhino wrote:No culture is perfect. In other breaking news, water is wet and it's
On 2025-07-14 12:09 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/14/2025 9:54 AM, Rhino wrote:In my entire life, I have never seen a woman going topless in the
I agree that such attitudes are so obscenely backward and inhuman
that its hard to see why they haven't expired from spontaneous
neglect. Otoh, since (e.g.) *we* condemn women who parade their
boobs in a supermarket, what qualitatively entitles us to cast
principled stones?
supermarket so I really don't know what you're talking about. I
haven't even heard women cluck to each other in semi-whispers about
another woman who is showing more than the average amount of boob.
For what it's worth, a woman in Guelph, Ontario effectively made it
legal for women to go topless whenever they wanted (in Ontario) about
30 years ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_toplessness_in_Canada >>>>>>>>>>>
In any case, what do your remarks even have to do with Muslim men
harassing women? You acknowledge that these are barbaric behaviours
but you still seem to be hunting for some excuse for this behaviour.
It seems like you're trying to root that excuse in some perceived
hypocrisy among Westerners.
I'm trying to point out that *our* mores aren't without "barbarisms".
going to be dark out tonight.
The trick is to bear that in mind when punching down in culture wars.
This is typically where the Islam apologist will shout, "Christians are
just
as bad. What about the Inquisition?!?"
The proper response to which is, if you find yourself always having to
reach
back centuries, if not millennia, to find analogous Christian >>>>>>> examples to
counter modern Muslim barbarity, you should do some serious >>>>>>> self-examination.
Debates that reach into religion can't be won.
But they certainly don't have to include importing the practitioners of
those
religions into your neighborhoods if they're going to be given official
exemption from your laws and cultural norms due to their 'cultural >>>>> ignorance'.
Our government, by long tradition, doesn't recognize specific religions. >>>
Actions, hairstyle, BMI, etc. ...just not religion.
Great. So we just take note of which countries contribute these 'culturally unaware' people who commit these vile actions to the pool of immigrants and cut off those countries.
On 2025-07-15 11:36 AM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/14/2025 9:33 PM, Rhino wrote:That always sounds to me like you're saying we can't do ANYTHING about Problems X, Y, or Z because we're not perfect ourselves. Prove me wrong:
On 2025-07-14 6:43 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/14/2025 6:10 PM, Rhino wrote:So because our culture is imperfect, we're not allowed to set any
On 2025-07-14 5:44 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/14/2025 5:00 PM, Rhino wrote:No culture is perfect. In other breaking news, water is wet and
On 2025-07-14 12:09 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/14/2025 9:54 AM, Rhino wrote:In my entire life, I have never seen a woman going topless in the >>>>>>> supermarket so I really don't know what you're talking about. I
On 2025-07-13 4:19 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/13/2025 3:17 PM, BTR1701 wrote:The reality is actually worse than BTR is inferring. The
Since allowing millions of practitioners of the Religion of >>>>>>>>>>> Peace to flood
into their country and enrich their culture by bringing their >>>>>>>>>>> barbarity with
them, the German government has been trying to tackle the >>>>>>>>>>> problem of brown men
sexually assaulting ethnic white German women just about >>>>>>>>>>> everywhere. From
public parks and pools, to the subways, and right out on the >>>>>>>>>>> street in broad
daylight, German girls and women have had to endure the
predations of the
Muslim men their government has so thoughtfully foisted upon >>>>>>>>>>> them against
their will-- everything from public groping and butt pinches >>>>>>>>>>> to outright
rape.
The government, like most European nations that are hell-bent >>>>>>>>>>> on committing
slow motion national suicide, has downplayed it whenever it >>>>>>>>>>> happens and the
courts officially excuse the perpetrators as simply
'culturally unaware' that
rape is a no-no in Germany. In some notorious cases, Muslim >>>>>>>>>>> men have been
sentenced to mere probation for not just groping but actually >>>>>>>>>>> full- on raping
women under this theory that they just don't know any better >>>>>>>>>>> because they come
from countries that are culturally frozen in the Dark Ages. >>>>>>>>>>>
Now, however, the German government has decided to tackle >>>>>>>>>>> this problem head-on
with a public awareness campaign that consists of posters >>>>>>>>>>> displayed in public
places all over the country, advising that groping and sexual >>>>>>>>>>> assault is a
nein-nein in Germany. The posters feature examples of this >>>>>>>>>>> bad behavior in
action.
The only problem?
They depict real-German white people sexually assaulting the >>>>>>>>>>> migrants, instead
of the other way around, the way it really happens literally >>>>>>>>>>> 100% of the
time:
https://ibb.co/jZkxY44y
https://ibb.co/nqrymCJM
https://ibb.co/rRVW6DMN
Apparently we were all hallucinating that the epidemic of >>>>>>>>>>> male sexual violence
in Germany was being committed by the sweet innocent illegal >>>>>>>>>>> aliens. It's
really those horrible native German citizens who are
assaulting the poor
vulnerable migrants.
Yes, there's an epidemic of middle-aged ginger hausfraus >>>>>>>>>>> groping Muhammed's
ass when he's just trying to enjoy a swim at the local pool. >>>>>>>>>>> Apparently, the
one-legged illegal aliens are especially vulnerable to being >>>>>>>>>>> raped by evil
white women (and portly gay white men, too).
"...this theory that they just don't know any better because >>>>>>>>>> they come
from countries that are culturally frozen in the Dark Ages." >>>>>>>>>>
What's your conflicting -- and better -- theory?
offenders in these cases are told by their religion that women >>>>>>>>> that don't dress modestly (in hijabs, niqabs or burkas,
depending on how strict their particular brand of Islam is) are >>>>>>>>> prostitutes and aren't entitled to any respect from men.
Pulling off their swimsuits - top or bottom - is perfectly okay >>>>>>>>> for any Allah- fearing man.
In their culture, women don't bathe with men and have their own >>>>>>>>> women- only spaces for bathing and swimming. No Muslim woman >>>>>>>>> will swim (or walk around outside the house) without having her >>>>>>>>> hair covered because Muslims apparently believe that men will >>>>>>>>> be driven mad with lust at the sight of a woman's hair and the >>>>>>>>> men can't be held responsible for acting on that lust.
A Western woman - any Western woman of any age - is begging to >>>>>>>>> be assaulted if she shows her hair or her bare arms or legs. >>>>>>>>>
I remember seeing a video from Hamburg Germany a couple of
years back where a 30-something migrant insisted on showing
porn on his phone to the 70-something year old German woman
sitting beside him on public transit. He kept trying to entice >>>>>>>>> her into sexual activity with the German word "ficken", which >>>>>>>>> means fuck in English.
I agree that such attitudes are so obscenely backward and
inhuman that its hard to see why they haven't expired from
spontaneous neglect. Otoh, since (e.g.) *we* condemn women who >>>>>>>> parade their boobs in a supermarket, what qualitatively entitles >>>>>>>> us to cast principled stones?
haven't even heard women cluck to each other in semi-whispers
about another woman who is showing more than the average amount
of boob.
For what it's worth, a woman in Guelph, Ontario effectively made >>>>>>> it legal for women to go topless whenever they wanted (in
Ontario) about 30 years ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_toplessness_in_Canada
In any case, what do your remarks even have to do with Muslim men >>>>>>> harassing women? You acknowledge that these are barbaric
behaviours but you still seem to be hunting for some excuse for
this behaviour. It seems like you're trying to root that excuse
in some perceived hypocrisy among Westerners.
I'm trying to point out that *our* mores aren't without "barbarisms". >>>>>>
it's going to be dark out tonight.
The trick is to bear that in mind when punching down in culture wars.
standards for anyone from a different culture until our own is
perfect first?
In other words the molestation and rape can carry on unabated and
unpunished because we're not perfect yet?
Whose "other words" are those? What I continually suggest is that we
carefully examine any stance based on our "moral superiority".
List ONE thing that you'd be willing to see our Western societies do to
stop people from other cultures molesting/raping women in the West.
On 2025-07-15 11:50 AM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/14/2025 10:52 PM, BTR1701 wrote:Gwen Jacobs and other women essentially won the right for women to go
On Jul 14, 2025 at 2:44:48 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 7/14/2025 5:00 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2025-07-14 12:09 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/14/2025 9:54 AM, Rhino wrote:In my entire life, I have never seen a woman going topless in the >>>>> supermarket so I really don't know what you're talking about. I
On 2025-07-13 4:19 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/13/2025 3:17 PM, BTR1701 wrote:The reality is actually worse than BTR is inferring. The
Since allowing millions of practitioners of the Religion of >>>>>>>>> Peace
to flood
into their country and enrich their culture by bringing their >>>>>>>>> barbarity with
them, the German government has been trying to tackle the >>>>>>>>> problem
of brown men
sexually assaulting ethnic white German women just about
everywhere. From
public parks and pools, to the subways, and right out on the >>>>>>>>> street
in broad
daylight, German girls and women have had to endure the
predations
of the
Muslim men their government has so thoughtfully foisted upon >>>>>>>>> them
against
their will-- everything from public groping and butt pinches to >>>>>>>>> outright
rape.
The government, like most European nations that are hell-bent on >>>>>>>>> committing
slow motion national suicide, has downplayed it whenever it >>>>>>>>> happens
and the
courts officially excuse the perpetrators as simply 'culturally >>>>>>>>> unaware' that
rape is a no-no in Germany. In some notorious cases, Muslim men >>>>>>>>> have been
sentenced to mere probation for not just groping but actually >>>>>>>>> full-
on raping
women under this theory that they just don't know any better >>>>>>>>> because they come
from countries that are culturally frozen in the Dark Ages. >>>>>>>>>
Now, however, the German government has decided to tackle this >>>>>>>>> problem head-on
with a public awareness campaign that consists of posters >>>>>>>>> displayed
in public
places all over the country, advising that groping and sexual >>>>>>>>> assault is a
nein-nein in Germany. The posters feature examples of this bad >>>>>>>>> behavior in
action.
The only problem?
They depict real-German white people sexually assaulting the >>>>>>>>> migrants, instead
of the other way around, the way it really happens literally >>>>>>>>> 100%
of the
time:
https://ibb.co/jZkxY44y
https://ibb.co/nqrymCJM
https://ibb.co/rRVW6DMN
Apparently we were all hallucinating that the epidemic of male >>>>>>>>> sexual violence
in Germany was being committed by the sweet innocent illegal >>>>>>>>> aliens. It's
really those horrible native German citizens who are
assaulting the
poor
vulnerable migrants.
Yes, there's an epidemic of middle-aged ginger hausfraus groping >>>>>>>>> Muhammed's
ass when he's just trying to enjoy a swim at the local pool. >>>>>>>>> Apparently, the
one-legged illegal aliens are especially vulnerable to being >>>>>>>>> raped
by evil
white women (and portly gay white men, too).
"...this theory that they just don't know any better because >>>>>>>> they come
from countries that are culturally frozen in the Dark Ages." >>>>>>>>
What's your conflicting -- and better -- theory?
offenders in
these cases are told by their religion that women that don't dress >>>>>>> modestly (in hijabs, niqabs or burkas, depending on how strict >>>>>>> their
particular brand of Islam is) are prostitutes and aren't
entitled to
any respect from men. Pulling off their swimsuits - top or
bottom -
is perfectly okay for any Allah-fearing man.
In their culture, women don't bathe with men and have their own >>>>>>> women- only spaces for bathing and swimming. No Muslim woman will >>>>>>> swim (or walk around outside the house) without having her hair >>>>>>> covered because Muslims apparently believe that men will be driven >>>>>>> mad with lust at the sight of a woman's hair and the men can't be >>>>>>> held responsible for acting on that lust.
A Western woman - any Western woman of any age - is begging to be >>>>>>> assaulted if she shows her hair or her bare arms or legs.
I remember seeing a video from Hamburg Germany a couple of
years back
where a 30-something migrant insisted on showing porn on his
phone to
the 70-something year old German woman sitting beside him on
public
transit. He kept trying to entice her into sexual activity with >>>>>>> the
German word "ficken", which means fuck in English.
I agree that such attitudes are so obscenely backward and
inhuman that
its hard to see why they haven't expired from spontaneous neglect. >>>>>> Otoh, since (e.g.) *we* condemn women who parade their boobs in a >>>>>> supermarket, what qualitatively entitles us to cast principled
stones?
haven't
even heard women cluck to each other in semi-whispers about another >>>>> woman who is showing more than the average amount of boob.
For what it's worth, a woman in Guelph, Ontario effectively made it >>>>> legal for women to go topless whenever they wanted (in Ontario)
about 30
years ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_toplessness_in_Canada
In any case, what do your remarks even have to do with Muslim men >>>>> harassing women? You acknowledge that these are barbaric
behaviours but
you still seem to be hunting for some excuse for this behaviour. It >>>>> seems like you're trying to root that excuse in some perceived
hypocrisy
among Westerners.J
I'm trying to point out that *our* mores aren't without "barbarisms".
A woman walking around topless is not a barbarism-- well, maybe it is
in the
case of rhinoceroses on THE VIEW-- in a discussion about cultures
that rewards
blowing children to smithereens and throws gay people off high
buildings and
stones women to death for having had the bad luck to be gang-raped.
Where logic is concerned, a rule against going topless is indeed a
barbarism (...unless you open the social-discomfort can of worms).
topless at their own discretion over 30 years ago in this country. Guess
how many women I've seen going topless in nice weather in the
intervening years: exactly NONE. (I'm not saying that no woman has gone topless in those years, just that I haven't seen it or even heard of
anyone doing so.) In a nutshell, Jacobs and others fought for the
principle of being able to go topless in public and chose not to
exercise it very often once the principle was accepted by the courts. To whatever extent women have gone topless in this country, it hasn't
caused a stir anywhere.
I would hardly call the United States barbaric just because they haven't followed suit.
On 7/15/2025 6:36 PM, Rhino wrote:
That always sounds to me like you're saying we can't do ANYTHING about
Problems X, Y, or Z because we're not perfect ourselves. Prove me wrong:
List ONE thing that you'd be willing to see our Western societies do to
stop people from other cultures molesting/raping women in the West.
I'd approve thoughtful actions not borne of bogus moral superiority.
On Jul 15, 2025 at 7:37:59 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 7/15/2025 6:36 PM, Rhino wrote:
That always sounds to me like you're saying we can't do ANYTHING about >>> Problems X, Y, or Z because we're not perfect ourselves. Prove me wrong: >>> List ONE thing that you'd be willing to see our Western societies do to >>> stop people from other cultures molesting/raping women in the West.
I'd approve thoughtful actions not borne of bogus moral superiority.
There's nothing bogus about it. Western American culture is objectively superior to a culture that rewards
blowing children to smithereens, throws gay people off high buildings, and stones women to death for having had the bad luck to be gang-raped.
On 7/16/2025 2:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 15, 2025 at 7:37:59 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>
On 7/15/2025 6:36 PM, Rhino wrote:
That always sounds to me like you're saying we can't do ANYTHING about >>>> Problems X, Y, or Z because we're not perfect ourselves. Prove me wrong:
List ONE thing that you'd be willing to see our Western societies do to >>>> stop people from other cultures molesting/raping women in the West.
I'd approve thoughtful actions not borne of bogus moral superiority.
There's nothing bogus about it. Western American culture is objectively
superior to a culture that rewards
blowing children to smithereens, throws gay people off high buildings, and >> stones women to death for having had the bad luck to be gang-raped.
Yes, "objectively superior" according to *your* object lessons
...whereas a Muslim might say that any follower of Islam is, despite
some occasional unpleasantness, perforce closer to God's perfection.
On Jul 16, 2025 at 12:17:44 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 7/16/2025 2:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 15, 2025 at 7:37:59 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>
On 7/15/2025 6:36 PM, Rhino wrote:
I'd approve thoughtful actions not borne of bogus moral superiority.That always sounds to me like you're saying we can't do ANYTHING about
Problems X, Y, or Z because we're not perfect ourselves. Prove me wrong:
List ONE thing that you'd be willing to see our Western societies do to
stop people from other cultures molesting/raping women in the West. >>>>
There's nothing bogus about it. Western American culture is objectively >>> superior to a culture that rewards
blowing children to smithereens, throws gay people off high buildings, and
stones women to death for having had the bad luck to be gang-raped.
Yes, "objectively superior" according to *your* object lessons
So murdering children, women, and gays is only wrong as a matter of perspective to you?
Dear sweet weeping jeezus.
...whereas a Muslim might say that any follower of Islam is, despite
some occasional unpleasantness, perforce closer to God's perfection.
Who cares what they say? They're murdering children, women, and gays.
On 7/16/2025 4:13 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 16, 2025 at 12:17:44 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>
On 7/16/2025 2:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 15, 2025 at 7:37:59 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 7/15/2025 6:36 PM, Rhino wrote:There's nothing bogus about it. Western American culture is objectively >>>> superior to a culture that rewards
I'd approve thoughtful actions not borne of bogus moral superiority. >>>>That always sounds to me like you're saying we can't do ANYTHING about
Problems X, Y, or Z because we're not perfect ourselves. Prove me wrong:
List ONE thing that you'd be willing to see our Western societies do to
stop people from other cultures molesting/raping women in the West. >>>>>
blowing children to smithereens, throws gay people off high buildings, and
stones women to death for having had the bad luck to be gang-raped.
Yes, "objectively superior" according to *your* object lessons
So murdering children, women, and gays is only wrong as a matter of
perspective to you?
Dear sweet weeping jeezus.
...whereas a Muslim might say that any follower of Islam is, despite
some occasional unpleasantness, perforce closer to God's perfection.
Who cares what they say? They're murdering children, women, and gays.
*All* morality is a matter of perspective, i.e., beliefs ...whether they
come from Mt. Sinai or from the "still small voice" in one's head.
On Jul 16, 2025 at 2:27:26 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 7/16/2025 4:13 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 16, 2025 at 12:17:44 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 7/16/2025 2:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 15, 2025 at 7:37:59 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:Yes, "objectively superior" according to *your* object lessons
On 7/15/2025 6:36 PM, Rhino wrote:There's nothing bogus about it. Western American culture is objectively
That always sounds to me like you're saying we can't do ANYTHING about
Problems X, Y, or Z because we're not perfect ourselves. Prove me wrong:
List ONE thing that you'd be willing to see our Western societies do to
stop people from other cultures molesting/raping women in the West.
I'd approve thoughtful actions not borne of bogus moral superiority. >>>>>
superior to a culture that rewards
blowing children to smithereens, throws gay people off high buildings, and
stones women to death for having had the bad luck to be gang-raped. >>>>
So murdering children, women, and gays is only wrong as a matter of
perspective to you?
Dear sweet weeping jeezus.
...whereas a Muslim might say that any follower of Islam is, despite >>>> some occasional unpleasantness, perforce closer to God's perfection.
Who cares what they say? They're murdering children, women, and gays.
*All* morality is a matter of perspective, i.e., beliefs ...whether they
come from Mt. Sinai or from the "still small voice" in one's head.
Let us know when you find out how many angels are dancing on your pinhead.
On 7/17/2025 1:08 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 16, 2025 at 2:27:26 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>
On 7/16/2025 4:13 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 16, 2025 at 12:17:44 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:*All* morality is a matter of perspective, i.e., beliefs ...whether they >>> come from Mt. Sinai or from the "still small voice" in one's head.
On 7/16/2025 2:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 15, 2025 at 7:37:59 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> >>>>>> wrote:Yes, "objectively superior" according to *your* object lessons
On 7/15/2025 6:36 PM, Rhino wrote:
That always sounds to me like you're saying we can't do ANYTHING about
Problems X, Y, or Z because we're not perfect ourselves. Prove >>>>>>>> me wrong:
List ONE thing that you'd be willing to see our Western >>>>>>>> societies do to
stop people from other cultures molesting/raping women in the West.
I'd approve thoughtful actions not borne of bogus moral superiority.
There's nothing bogus about it. Western American culture is objectively
superior to a culture that rewards
blowing children to smithereens, throws gay people off high
buildings, and
stones women to death for having had the bad luck to be gang-raped. >>>>>
So murdering children, women, and gays is only wrong as a matter of >>>> perspective to you?
Dear sweet weeping jeezus.
...whereas a Muslim might say that any follower of Islam is, despite >>>>> some occasional unpleasantness, perforce closer to God's perfection. >>>>Who cares what they say? They're murdering children, women, and gays. >>>
Let us know when you find out how many angels are dancing on your pinhead.
Worry first about how many "us" is.
On Jul 17, 2025 at 8:07:09 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 7/17/2025 1:08 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 16, 2025 at 2:27:26 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>
On 7/16/2025 4:13 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 16, 2025 at 12:17:44 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:*All* morality is a matter of perspective, i.e., beliefs ...whether they >>>> come from Mt. Sinai or from the "still small voice" in one's head.
On 7/16/2025 2:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 15, 2025 at 7:37:59 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 7/15/2025 6:36 PM, Rhino wrote:
That always sounds to me like you're saying we can't do ANYTHING about
Problems X, Y, or Z because we're not perfect ourselves. Prove
me wrong:
List ONE thing that you'd be willing to see our Western >>>>>>>>> societies do to
stop people from other cultures molesting/raping women in the West.
I'd approve thoughtful actions not borne of bogus moral superiority.
There's nothing bogus about it. Western American culture is objectively
superior to a culture that rewards
blowing children to smithereens, throws gay people off high >>>>>>> buildings, and
stones women to death for having had the bad luck to be gang-raped.
Yes, "objectively superior" according to *your* object lessons
So murdering children, women, and gays is only wrong as a matter of >>>>> perspective to you?
Dear sweet weeping jeezus.
...whereas a Muslim might say that any follower of Islam is, despite >>>>>> some occasional unpleasantness, perforce closer to God's perfection. >>>>>Who cares what they say? They're murdering children, women, and gays. >>>>
Let us know when you find out how many angels are dancing on your pinhead.
Worry first about how many "us" is.
That's easy. "Us" is everyone in the world but you.
On 7/17/2025 12:56 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 17, 2025 at 8:07:09 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>
On 7/17/2025 1:08 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 16, 2025 at 2:27:26 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 7/16/2025 4:13 PM, BTR1701 wrote:Let us know when you find out how many angels are dancing on your pinhead.
On Jul 16, 2025 at 12:17:44 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> >>>>>> wrote:
On 7/16/2025 2:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:So murdering children, women, and gays is only wrong as a matter of >>>>>> perspective to you?
On Jul 15, 2025 at 7:37:59 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 7/15/2025 6:36 PM, Rhino wrote:
That always sounds to me like you're saying we can't do >>>>>>>>>> ANYTHING about
Problems X, Y, or Z because we're not perfect ourselves. Prove
me wrong:
List ONE thing that you'd be willing to see our Western >>>>>>>>>> societies do to
stop people from other cultures molesting/raping women in the West.
I'd approve thoughtful actions not borne of bogus moral superiority.
There's nothing bogus about it. Western American culture is >>>>>>>> objectively
superior to a culture that rewards
blowing children to smithereens, throws gay people off high >>>>>>>> buildings, and
stones women to death for having had the bad luck to be gang-raped.
Yes, "objectively superior" according to *your* object lessons >>>>>>
Dear sweet weeping jeezus.
...whereas a Muslim might say that any follower of Islam is, despite
some occasional unpleasantness, perforce closer to God's perfection.
Who cares what they say? They're murdering children, women, and gays.
*All* morality is a matter of perspective, i.e., beliefs ...whether they
come from Mt. Sinai or from the "still small voice" in one's head. >>>>
Worry first about how many "us" is.
That's easy. "Us" is everyone in the world but you.
Everyone in the world? Who knew you were so inclusive...
On 7/14/2025 9:54 AM, Rhino wrote:
On 2025-07-13 4:19 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/13/2025 3:17 PM, BTR1701 wrote:The reality is actually worse than BTR is inferring. The offenders in
"...this theory that they just don't know any better because they come
from countries that are culturally frozen in the Dark Ages."
What's your conflicting -- and better -- theory?
these cases are told by their religion that women that don't dress
modestly (in hijabs, niqabs or burkas, depending on how strict their
particular brand of Islam is) are prostitutes and aren't entitled to any
respect from men. Pulling off their swimsuits - top or bottom - is
perfectly okay for any Allah-fearing man.
In their culture, women don't bathe with men and have their own women-
only spaces for bathing and swimming. No Muslim woman will swim (or walk
around outside the house) without having her hair covered because
Muslims apparently believe that men will be driven mad with lust at the
sight of a woman's hair and the men can't be held responsible for acting
on that lust.
A Western woman - any Western woman of any age - is begging to be
assaulted if she shows her hair or her bare arms or legs.
I remember seeing a video from Hamburg Germany a couple of years back
where a 30-something migrant insisted on showing porn on his phone to
the 70-something year old German woman sitting beside him on public
transit. He kept trying to entice her into sexual activity with the
German word "ficken", which means fuck in English.
I agree that such attitudes are so obscenely backward and inhuman that
its hard to see why they haven't expired from spontaneous neglect.
Otoh, since (e.g.) *we* condemn women who parade their boobs in a supermarket, what qualitatively entitles us to cast principled stones?
*All* morality is a matter of perspective, i.e., beliefs ...whether they
come from Mt. Sinai or from the "still small voice" in one's head.
Our government, by long tradition, doesn't recognize specific religions.
But it can recognize actions.
Actions, hairstyle, BMI, etc. ...just not religion.
Canada had a case a couple of years ago of a Muslim woman who wanted
both her citizenship ceremony and her passport with veil. They told
her no on the passport and offered her a private swearing in with a
female judge but that she had to show her entire face to the judge.
She said no and I don't know what the final outcome was. I >think< she
was told "there's an open offer on the female judge so let us know
when you're ready - oh and by the way, while your application has been >accepted it's only good till the end of this year so if your swearing
in doesn't happen before next year you will have to re-apply.
I also don't know what the objection was to unveiling in front of a
female judge with nobody but other women (court staff) in the room.
I mean honestly, there is accommodation and letting the government be
pushed around which they were decidedly NOT on for.
On Wed, 16 Jul 2025 17:27:26 -0400, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
*All* morality is a matter of perspective, i.e., beliefs ...whether they
come from Mt. Sinai or from the "still small voice" in one's head.
So if some extremist Muslims want to boink preteens because 1300 years
ago, Muhammed is supposed to have consummated his marriage with a 9
year old is totally cool and OK with you?
Uh.....
Guess what - to me that's like saying "Back in the 11th and 12th
centuries knights were going long distances to wage holy war" is a
good reason to bring back Crusades.
Uh.....
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